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The Facts aren’t Enough

by VorJack

The Boston Globe has an interesting and disheartening article about the relationship between facts and belief:

Recently, a few political scientists have begun to discover a human tendency deeply discouraging to anyone with faith in the power of information. It’s this: Facts don’t necessarily have the power to change our minds. In fact, quite the opposite. In a series of studies in 2005 and 2006, researchers at the University of Michigan found that when misinformed people, particularly political partisans, were exposed to corrected facts in news stories, they rarely changed their minds. In fact, they often became even more strongly set in their beliefs. Facts, they found, were not curing misinformation. Like an underpowered antibiotic, facts could actually make misinformation even stronger.

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“The general idea is that it’s absolutely threatening to admit you’re wrong,” says political scientist Brendan Nyhan, the lead researcher on the Michigan study. The phenomenon — known as “backfire” — is “a natural defense mechanism to avoid that cognitive dissonance.”

The article focuses on what this means for democracy and the idea that an educated population will govern itself wisely. It points out that frequently it is those misinformed people who are most passionate about what they fail to understand. The author actually makes reference to an article in the Onion to explain the problem, Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be.

But it’s hard for me to get too worked up about this; after all, humans have always been this way, and American democracy has survived for over 200 years. But it doesn’t bode well for our attempts to promote science and reason. The more we push, the more pushback we can expect.

All Apologies

by VorJack

I’m reading The Outsider Interviews – or more specifically, I’m reading the companion book to the DVD. The DVD contains the interviews proper, while the book contains essays, discussion questions and some ”making of” bits. One of the authors, Jim Henderson, still owns Hemant’s soul, so let’s let him talk about it.

I’m also reading about the controversy surrounding Andrew Marin, whose Marin Foundation got a lot of attention when it publicly apologized for evangelical Christianity’s anti-GLBT stance. Despite the apology, the question remains as to whether or not Marin and his crew still hold to the biblical interpretation that homosexuality as a sin. Folks like “I T” of Street Prophets are trying to hold Marin’s feet to the fire about it.

These are two cases where evangelicals are reaching out to those who are outside their movement. It’s encouraging, but I’m having a hard time believing that this isn’t largely a marketing campaign. “If we strike this pose and say these words, we’ll win more souls for Christ.” Perhaps that’s not the only reason, but it’s there in the background.

But does it matter? After all, I’m pretty confident that dialogue will change some minds on the other side. If evangelicals are forced to deal with gays, atheists and other outsiders as fully human, many are likely to start seeing the sense in the more liberal interpretations of the Bible. I suppose I can be pretty evangelical myself, just less direct about it.

What bothers me more is that the stance being taken by the authors of The Outsider Interviews and Marin specifically precludes talking about the issues that I want to talk about. I’m gratified that they’re willing to apologize for the way that evangelicals have treated the GLBT movement, but now let’s talk about why they were treated that way.

Marin dodges around the issue saying that it’s complex. Fair enough; you’ve got all the column inches you could ever need on your blog, now dive into the complexity. Jim Henderson says that he just doesn’t know what to think anymore. Alright, let’s talk about it until you do.

Todd Hunter points out that many thoughtful evangelicals are unwilling to embrace homosexuality as acceptable. True, but if you polled thoughtful American Christians in 1800, you would have found that most of them considered slavery to be biblically acceptable. It took a number of political shocks and a strong abolitionist movement to start turning that around. We’re trying to provide those shocks, are you open to rethinking you assumptions?

I’m worried that the stance being taken by these evangelicals has the effect of walling off their beliefs from discussion. I hear, “Let’s talk about our feelings, let’s talk about our perceptions, let’s talk about how we’ve treated each other, but let’s not talk about our beliefs and their justifications because those are divisive.” I’m sorry, but that’s exactly what I want to talk about.

I’ve seen too many evangelical act like they’re trapped by the Bible. I’ve heard too many pipe up that they want to “defend the bible” against the GLBT movement, without ever having the introspection to realize that they’re just defending their own interpretation of the Bible.

They do a disservice to people like Slacktivist, who do self-consciously struggle to maintain a consistent approach to the bible yet come to different conclusions. James McGrath has compiled a list of resources on homosexuality and the bible, and I’m assuming they don’t all boil down to, “God said it, I believe it, that does it.”

But if folks like Marin and Henderson don’t stop apologizing, I’m afraid we’ll never get a chance to talk about these things.

Humanizing the Messiah

by VorJack

I was reading a summary of José Saramago’s The Gospel According to Jesus Christ. In a nutshell, Jesus is a human figure who is being used by Yahweh for His own ends. He is guilt-ridden about the Massacre of the Innocents, and about the excesses that will take place in the future in his name.

In the end, realizing that his own sacrifice will not stop Yahweh’s plans or these excesses, he laments, “Men, forgive Him, for He knows not what He has done.”

It’s similar in many ways to Philip Pullman’s The Good Man Jesus and the Scoundrel Christ, in which the human prophet Jesus has his message manipulated by his brother Christ. Christopher Hitchens has a good review of it at the NYT. There’s also an expansion on this review on the NYT podcast:

A humanized, manipulated Jesus is also a subplot of Mikhail Bulgakov’s The Master and Margarita, considered one of the great novels of the last century. In it, Yeshua is pictured as a human philosopher and wiseman who is able to bond with Pilate, even though Pilate is forced to send him to his unjust execution.

There are other examples. I remember a bizarre science fiction story in which a human Jesus is being tortured in hell for inadvertently wrecking monotheism. Part of his torture is to watch the actions of the church founded in his name.

Why is this such a popular theme? Why all these sympathetic portrayals of a human Jesus whose message is lost or distorted? In particular, why do we see it from atheists like Saramago and Pullman?

Blog Note

by VorJack

Daniel checked in to say that he’ll be out of touch for a week, because he’s driving across the country.

He didn’t say why he was driving across the country. My theory is that he’s on the run.

Maybe all the churches he designed websites for have now found out that he’s an atheist, and they’re all after him to get their money back from the heathen.

Right now, Daniel is now flying down the interstate, with a dozen church mini-vans in hot pursuit.

He’s staying ahead of them, but only because they have to stop once a day and hold a bake sale in order to pay for gas.

Anyway, that’s my theory. He’ll be back in a week.

Playboy Jesus

by VorJack

Last month, Nobel winning author José Saramago died. Saramago was apparently a very well respected figure in his native Portugal, being the only Portuguese-language writer to win the prize for literature.

There have been several attempts to honor him. The Portuguese government declared two days of mourning, and Saramago has been lauded by many Portuguese luminaries. All kind of ironic, because Saramago lived in the Canary Islands since the early ’90s. He fled there when the Portuguese Prime Minister had his most popular and controversial book The Gospel According to Jesus Christ, pulled from another literary prize competition for being religiously offensive.

Now, Saramago was an atheist, and his Gospel depicted Jesus as a flawed and humanized figure. Which leads to the most interesting homage to Saramago, by none other that the Portuguese Playboy Magazine.

The image that follows is edited, but still just this side of NSFW.

Carved on the headboard there is the title of Saramago’s work.

The blog Geek System has more images, all edited to protect you from the dreaded nipple.

Stigmata?

A man with the name “Jesus” etched into his arm.

Jesus loves you, but sometimes, he worries …

(via)

Godblock

From the GodBlock Website:

GodBlock is a web filter that blocks religious content. It is targeted at parents and schools who wish to protect their kids from the often violent, sexual, and psychologically harmful material in many holy texts, and from being indoctrinated into any religion before they are of the age to make such decisions. When installed properly, GodBlock will test each page that your child visits before it is loaded, looking for passages from holy texts, names of religious figures, and other signs of religious propaganda. If none are found, then your child is allowed to browse freely.

Via Jesus Needs New PR, who comments: “To an atheist, God is like porn.”

For five extra points, explain that analogy.

Audio Paradolia

by VorJack

Alright, show of hands: how many people here remember the 80’s “backmasking” panic? Remember all the people playing Judas Priest backwards in order to hear satanic messages?

Jeff Milner has put together this great bit of flash code which will play selections from some of the songs accused of containing backwards messages. Select a song and listen to the clip. Then hit the “reverse play” button and see if you can figure out the eeeeevil message that it contains. Click on “show reverse lyrics” to see if you got it right.

Note: if the embed code isn’t working, go to Milner’s site to try it out.

Too Hot to be Too Hot

by VorJack

Ugh.

I agree with Slacktivist, it’s too hot to blog. Too hot to think. Too hot coherent sentence make.

When I’m done here, I’m going to go become a Baptist just so that someone will dunk me in water.

Or maybe not. I was listening to a local Christian radio station yesterday and I heard a male preacher chastising his female listeners for dressing immodestly. You see, it was their responsibility not to tempt their Christian brothers towards lust.

No mention that maybe those Christian brothers should learn to cope, grow up, get a hobby. No, it was the woman’s responsibility to protect her fragile Christian brothers from their own hormones. Dudes just can’t help it, y’know? Ugh.

Have you ever noticed that when there’s some stereotypical weakness that women supposedly suffer (i.e. inability to control emotions during PMS) it’s used as an excuse to bar them from something (i.e. having a position of power.)

And yet when men supposedly suffer some stereotypical weakness (i.e. inability to control thoughts when cleavage is visible) it’s used as an excuse to bar WOMEN from something (i.e. wearing tattered shorts and a sports bra when it’s 90+ degrees.)

Maybe it’s hypocrisy or a double standard or something. Right now it’s too hot to think about.

Fundamentalists from the Inside

by VorJack

There have been a number of books recently in which a person with little or no religious sentiment goes to a fundamentalist church or school, just to see what it’s like from the inside. The people involved rarely have the sort of training that allows them to come out with any deep insight.

This is not the case with James Ault, a sociologist who studied various conservative religious movements in America and spent three years attending a fundamentalist church. The result is a documentary and a book, Spirit and Flesh.

There’s a lengthy summary of the book over at Blog on the Way. I don’t want to summarize the summary, but here’s a taste:

Ault’s most disarming and perceptive insight is that Fundamentalism, though it emphasizes reliance on the sacred Scripture, is primarily a religion in the Oral Tradition. The beliefs, which have a certain flexibility, are disseminated through the sermons and lessons and by person-to-person conversation. People share sermons, pass around tapes, and attend conferences where they hear the leaders of the religion make their pronouncements. Bible reading, rather than being systematic or scholarly, is performed selectively in order to “hide God’s Word in the heart,” which is a euphemism for memorization. At the appropriate time, learned texts are slapped onto a situation. But sermons carry the beliefs and transmit them. Bible reading serves the sermons.

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Ault’s next most disarming insight is that Fundamentalism relies upon situation ethics. He expressed surprise that the preacher, a man he came to admire, would thunder that divorce was always wrong, and everybody would shout “Amen!” yet several people in the church were divorced. They felt no incongruity about condemning divorce yet also being divorced. Ault learned that the Fundamentalist mindset believed that it believed in the absolutes that it claimed, yet the culture was one of addressing every situation individually and evaluating it in light of multiple factors. While remaining conservative and morally strict, Fundamentalism, nonetheless, relied upon situation for its moral decisions, not absolutes. Divorce, in the end, was NOT always wrong if a situation was one that was intolerable or “unavoidable”. The people, he noted, saw no contradiction in what they said vs what they actually practiced. They thought they believed in an absolute morality, and they practiced situation ethics.

Jeri Massi, the blogger at Blog on the Way, is herself a former fundamentalist. She still Christian, but she’s made a study of her former community, and she’s able to provide a list of the aspects of Fundamentalism that Ault and other scholars have picked up on.

Myth of Monogomy

by VorJack

Psychiatrists Christopher Ryan and Cacilda Jethá have a new book out entitled Sex at Dawn: The Prehistoric Origins of Modern Sexuality. Ryan blogs about its thesis over at Psychology Today:

Biologists distinguish sexual monogamy from social monogamy. As DNA testing has grown cheaper in recent years, we’ve learned that most species formerly classified as “monogamous” (primarily birds) are socially monogamous, but not sexually so. In other words, they form pairs that cooperatively care for that season’s brood of young, but the male may well not be the biological father.

Most of this is not new. My first encounter with these arguments was in 2001’s The Myth of Monogamy, which is a popularization of much of the science involved. Basically, female animals frequently have more control over mate choice than was previously believed, and will frequently exercise that control before going on to choose a mate to raise offspring with.

But Ryan and Jethá take it a step farther:

Applied to humans, we argue that a more flexible approach to sexual fidelity can increase marital stability and thus lead to greater social and family stability.

I’m always worried when we start trying to tie evolution to modern morality. Perhaps, as the authors point out, we’re as sexually rambunctious as the bonobos. But we’ve surrounded ourselves with a very complex culture, and we’re just as much social and cultural beings as we are sexual ones.

I’ll admit, I’m defensive. I’ve just celebrated ten years of monogamy. Of course, the authors don’t do much to help. Consider this analogy for accepting the costs of going against our polygamous nature:

For example, you might happily choose to work the night shift, but the resulting disruption of your circadian clock will increase your risk of cancer, cardio-vascular disease, gastric disorders, and so on no matter how committed you are to your decision. Similarly, we can choose to wear tight corsets, or ill-fitting shoes, or to live on chili-dogs and ice cream, but because all these behaviors run counter to our evolved nature they will cost us over time.

Gosh, thanks.

I believe that the authors are correct that our evolution has given us instincts that leave us more suited for serial monogamy. But I think it would be wrong to conclude that we’re all that beholden to those instincts.

Humans are varied and flexible creatures, and each of us will deal with our instincts in our own way. Some will ignore them, some will go with them, and some will subvert them. While I agree its best to be aware of them, I suspect that we shouldn’t be drawing too many conclusions from our evolutionary past about our current behavior.

Hanging Jesus

by VorJack

Help me out here folks, because I’m not sure how I feel about this one.

A Swedish scholar named Gunnar Samuelsson has successfully defended his thesis that the Gospels do not clearly describe a crucifixion that matches later traditions.

His argument seems to hinge on the word “stauroun,” which the Gospels use in a way that has been interpreted as meaning “crucified.” As in, “He was handed over to be ’stauroun.’

In this case, “stauroun” simply means to hang or suspend. Samuelsson has apparently done his homework and found that in the Gospel period, “stauroun” used in the case of executions could mean hanging or impaling.

There are a number of places to read about Samuelsson’s argument. CNN’s Belief blog has one report, but like a lot of other reports it has problems. Consider the opening:

There have been plenty of attacks on Christianity over the years, but few claims have been more surprising than one advanced by an obscure Swedish scholar this spring.

How is this an attack? Samuelsson’s arugment is very narrow; one might even say pedantic. He’s arguing that the Gospels – and only the Gospels – do not absolutely say that Jesus was crucified. That might be what they are trying to say, but there’s enough wiggle room in the words chosen that they could also be telling us that he was impaled or hung.

It reminds me a bit of the argument over Joesph’s profession, and by extension Jesus’s early profession: were they carpenters? The word the Gospel’s use is “tekton,” which merely means “manual laborer.” It’s the same root as our words like “technical,” or “technician,” that is, working with the hands. It might mean that Joesph was a carpenter (though probably not a furniture maker as sometimes depicted but rather a home builder), but it might not. The tradition that Joesph was a carpenter is first found in Justin Maytyr a century after Jesus’ death.

Regardless of what the Gospels say, early Christian tradition definitely had the idea that Jesus had been nailed to a cross. It’s possible that they were embroidering a bit, or perhaps were cleaning some things up, but I don’t see any real reason to be suspicious of the traditional reading as long as we bear Samuelsson’s points in mind.

Though I admit, part of me is morbidly curious as to what would have happened to early Christianity if Jesus had been impaled through the anus, as was sometimes done.

Hmmm, no, on second thought, nevermind.

Levels of Idolatry

by VorJack

Some Christians and former Christians are fond of pointing at the doctrine of biblical innerrancy and calling it idolatry – the act of taking something less than God and making it out to be God. Robert Price is fond of doing this in his BibleGeek webcast.

The idea is that Christian fundamentalists are making the Bible itself into a God and placing an heap of of expectations on it that are to much for any collection of books to bear. There’s something to this, but I notice there are all different levels to which even fundamentalists ascribe.

Inspiration

As some basic level, beneath that which most people would call idolatry, is the idea I remember from Catholic school: the Bible is inspired. This meant something very similar to what we means when we say an artist is inspired; the author received some insights and ideas (from God, it was assumed) that they proceeded to work into prose. But they were human authors, who were capable of writing some poorly worded sentences or confusing an issue. Thus we needed something more with which to illuminate the text, and the Catholic answer to that is Christian tradition maintained and developed by the Church.

Dictation

Somewhere beyond that is verbal inspiration, in which the Gospel authors are merely secretaries, taking dictation from the Almighty. This sidesteps the messy process of having to consider the mentality of the author; instead, we’re getting it straight from God. One doesn’t have to believe that every jot and tittle is accurate since the books may have changed a bit since their original manuscripts, but presuambly the Bible is absolutely reliable on matters of faith and salvation.

One idea I often hear is that God is loving, and would not leave us with flawed instructions on how to achieve salvation. This assumes a lot about the way God might operate, or what “loving” means in the context of an infinite non-corporeal entity, but it does make a certain sense. However, once you start reasoning this way, there really is no limit. What else might an all-loving God provide us with in his Word?

Absolute Sufficiency

Ken Pulliam over at Why I De-Converted from Evangelical Christianity has some thoughts on the more extreme form of this idolatry, in which the Bible offer guidance on things having little to do with salvation. As one fundamentalist co-woker explained to me, “All truths are found in the Bible,” and these apparently include truths relating to psychology; thus Biblical or “nouthetic” counseling:

“Nouthetic” comes from a NT Greek word meaning: “to admonish,” or “to correct.” This type of counseling says that man’s basic problem is sin and that the job of the counselor is to point out to the counselee the nature of his sin and then admonish him to confess it and ask God to heal him. The father of the movement is Jay Adams, longtime Professor of Pastoral Counseling at Westminster Theological Seminary in Philadelphia. Westminster is a very conservative evangelical Reformed seminary. Adams burst on the scene in 1970 with his book, Competent to Counsel: Introduction to Nouthetic Counseling. The very popular book has been used by thousands of Pastors to guide them in their counseling methodology.

And so Adams believe he can derive principles for the Bible which allow him to deal with depression and other psychological problems. You can read Pulliam’s entire post, but I can give you a hint: Adam’s methods are both misogynistic and toxic.

Let me close with a joke that Darrell Dow, blogger at Stuff Fundies Like, left in one of his comments on the topic:

Jay Adams, Tom Cruise, and Mary Baker Eddy walk into an emergency room…and see a man in a full body cast moaning in pain.

Tom Cruise declares “this man is not injured, he merely needs to audit himself into a clear state to uncover his thetan reality then his so-called pain will cease.”

Mary Baker Eddy contradicts “No, this man merely needs to acknowledge that his physical flesh is a sinful manifestation and that only pure spirit can be righteous then he will understand his pain is an illusion.”

Jay Adams says nothing but picks up a Gideon Bible and begins beating the man on the head with it.

“What are you doing?!” ask the other two in horror.

“Discipleship!” yells Jay loudly “By the time I’m done he’ll still be in pain but by golly he’ll at least have the decency to feel guilty about it!”

Quotes of the Moment: It’s All About Me!

(via lolgod)

Magic Jesus Dust Doesn’t Work on Everything

by VorJack

Johnathan Acuff, creator of Stuff Christians Like, wrote about the inspiration of his site on the CNN’s Belief Blog some time back:

As a pastor’s kid, I always found it odd that we Christians sprinkle a little church flavor on popular secular ideas and make them our own. We turned, “Got Milk” into, “Got God,” and “Adidas” into, “Add Jesus.” I feel like we often don’t use our best creativity to express our love of the person we believe created it all. So when the site stuffwhitepeoplelike.com blew up, I thought it might be fun to discuss that problem by committing that problem. I started stuffchristianslike.net thinking it would be like one of the many ideas I’ve written online.

That’s as good a way of describing the problem as any. A lot of American Evangelical pop culture seems to consist of taking something popular from the wider culture and importing it into the subculture after sprinkling it with a little magic Jesus dust.

And there’s only so much we atheists can complain.

But, seriously folks, with all due respect … just stop rapping. Please. Magic Jesus dust doesn’t work on everything.

Case in point:

And frankly, magic Jesus dust doesn’t work really well when the original was painful to begin with:

(both videos via Scotteriology. Blame him.)

KJV 1611

by VorJack

James McGrath declares this video (originally from Stuff Fundies Like) as “one of the least intelligible “arguments” I’ve ever encountered to support any point of view, anywhere, ever.”

I’m having a hard time disagreeing.

However, this may be a perfect time to try out YouTube’s “vuvuzela” function. Click through to the YouTube site (by clicking on the YouTube logo at the bottom right). Once there, click on the soccer ball/foot ball icon on the bottom right, just beneath the video.

There now, doesn’t that just improve his argument immensely? That’s the magic of the vuvuzela button. Use it wisely.

Blog Break

by VorJack

‘Tis the tenth anniversary of my marriage, and according to my co-workers this is when it all start to go downhill. (working in a house full of divorced women has it’s downsides)

I’m going to go off and enjoy the good times while they last, so I’ll be out of the loop for a couple days. Ya’ll don’t make trouble for Daniel.

Missing the Mark

by VorJack

Over at Slate, Ron Rosenbaum gets in a good sneer in the agnostic/atheist debate with a piece entitled “The rise of the new agnostics“:

Atheists display a credulous and childlike faith, worship a certainty as yet unsupported by evidence—the certainty that they can or will be able to explain how and why the universe came into existence.

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Atheists have no evidence—and certainly no proof!—that science will ever solve the question of why there is something rather than nothing. Just because other difficult-seeming problems have been solved does not mean all difficult problems will always be solved.

I’m always uncomfortable when I receive criticism that I feel misses the mark. I simply don’t recognize any of myself or my community in Rosenbaum’s remarks. I’ve seen a kind of messianic scientism before, but unless I’m missing something I do not see it reflected among the atheists I know.

Oh, it’s true that some of the statements made by Carl Sagan, as an example, could be interpreted as a type of “science as messiah” sermon. But when he talked of people joining hands and marching forward into a new age free of superstition, I interpreted that as a particular type of rhetoric; a pep talk or a type of soaring inspirational language rather than an accurate description of how he saw the future.

(hey, whattaya know, our own “literal-vs-metaphorical” debate!)

I myself am not convinced that we will ever know how the universe came to be. I suspect that there are scientific and philosophical hurdles that we might never clear. Our friend Daniel Frinke – at his newly renovated blog Camels with Hammers – has this response to the problem of how something came from nothing:

My best philosophical answer—not a dogmatic assertion with no reasoning, not a faith position I am committed to against all contrary arguments and evidence, not my 100% certainty, but merely my best philosophical answer is that we need to better understand the words creation and nothingness. Everything we see “created” is only a recombination of preexisting matter. We never see creation from nothing, but only creation from something.

And we have no experience whatsoever with “nothing”. We can only have experience with some things which are not other things. If I say there is nothing in the cupboard, it is not because I have encountered nothing, but it is because what was there was nothing edible or nothing but air and woodshavings and bacteria invisible to my naked eye, etc. I have no experience of nothing. I just have experience of things which are not expected things or things detectable by the senses.

So at least for Frinke and myself, Rosenbaum’s comment just don’t hit home. Simply because we see insufficient evidence to conclude that there is a deity – and thus we don’t believe in a God and are therefor atheists – it doesn’t follow that we worship at the altar of science.