http://www.amazingtunes.com/users/rumoursofwhores/tunes/19598
It seems to be making a topical point about the catholic church.
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I though some of you might like to give this band, Rumours of Whores, some support. You can hear one of their tunes at:
http://www.amazingtunes.com/users/rumoursofwhores/tunes/19598
It seems to be making a topical point about the catholic church.
http://www.amazingtunes.com/users/rumoursofwhores/tunes/19598
It seems to be making a topical point about the catholic church.
I have just seen a short debate between Ariane Sherine who came up with the atheist campaign and David Larlham of the Trinitarian Bible Society. It can be found at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7875834.stm?lss
Sherine did well in the short time available. However, if this is the level of discussion we can expect from the BBC the public will soon lose interest in the debate.
The BBC seems to see the issue as one of belief rather than that of the substantive intrusion of religion into our secular state. What some people believe about god is not a pressing priority and wastes our opportunity to deal with more urgent, earthly matters. This is a debate that will be won by the evidence as it slowly permeates our cerebral traditions. So far, this evidence is wholly consistent with the idea that religion is a fairy tale.
Atheists do need to be worried by the intrusions religion is making into secular democratic institutions. I refer to the continuation of the privileged places for Bishops in the Lords, the millions leached from the exchequer for the upkeep of religious properties and the salaries of chaplains in the NHS and armed forces, the loss to the public purse through tax exemptions and divisive faith schools where children are indoctrinated into a worldview based on risible medieval myths.
Furthermore, both our major political parties have declared that they will hand over more public services to voluntary and charitable organisations which will, in many cases, be run by religious groups. They will be funded by the taxpayer so it is not their charity it is ours. As a taxpayer it will be my charity that is being gifted via the prejudices and dogma of religious factions who believe in supernatural doctrines I despise. Moreover I have no confidence in the competence of gullible people with superstitious, backward, outdated ideas.
This is why we need to stop wasting our efforts on conversion and concentrate more on convincing those who have already rejected religion. We need to demonstrate that it is in their interests to join a coherent effective political lobby such as the British Humanist Association, the clear front runner for this task, followed closely by the National Secular Society.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7875834.stm?lss
Sherine did well in the short time available. However, if this is the level of discussion we can expect from the BBC the public will soon lose interest in the debate.
The BBC seems to see the issue as one of belief rather than that of the substantive intrusion of religion into our secular state. What some people believe about god is not a pressing priority and wastes our opportunity to deal with more urgent, earthly matters. This is a debate that will be won by the evidence as it slowly permeates our cerebral traditions. So far, this evidence is wholly consistent with the idea that religion is a fairy tale.
Atheists do need to be worried by the intrusions religion is making into secular democratic institutions. I refer to the continuation of the privileged places for Bishops in the Lords, the millions leached from the exchequer for the upkeep of religious properties and the salaries of chaplains in the NHS and armed forces, the loss to the public purse through tax exemptions and divisive faith schools where children are indoctrinated into a worldview based on risible medieval myths.
Furthermore, both our major political parties have declared that they will hand over more public services to voluntary and charitable organisations which will, in many cases, be run by religious groups. They will be funded by the taxpayer so it is not their charity it is ours. As a taxpayer it will be my charity that is being gifted via the prejudices and dogma of religious factions who believe in supernatural doctrines I despise. Moreover I have no confidence in the competence of gullible people with superstitious, backward, outdated ideas.
This is why we need to stop wasting our efforts on conversion and concentrate more on convincing those who have already rejected religion. We need to demonstrate that it is in their interests to join a coherent effective political lobby such as the British Humanist Association, the clear front runner for this task, followed closely by the National Secular Society.
I have just seen a short debate between Ariane Sherine who came up with the atheist campaign and David Larlham of the Trinitarian Bible Society. It can be found at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7875834.stm?lss
Sherine did well in the short time available. However, if this is the level of discussion we can expect from the BBC the public will soon lose interest in the debate.
The BBC seems to see the issue as one of belief rather than that of the substantive intrusion of religion into our secular state. What some people believe about god is not a pressing priority and wastes our opportunity to deal with more urgent, earthly matters. This is a debate that will be won by the evidence as it slowly permeates our cerebral traditions. So far, this evidence is wholly consistent with the idea that religion is a fairy tale.
Atheists do need to be worried by the intrusions religion is making into secular democratic institutions. I refer to the continuation of the privileged places for Bishops in the Lords, the millions leached from the exchequer for the upkeep of religious properties and the salaries of chaplains in the NHS and armed forces, the loss to the public purse through tax exemptions and divisive faith schools where children are indoctrinated into a worldview based on risible medieval myths.
Furthermore, both our major political parties have declared that they will hand over more public services to voluntary and charitable organisations which will, in many cases, be run by religious groups. They will be funded by the taxpayer so it is not their charity it is ours. As a taxpayer it will be my charity that is being gifted via the prejudices and dogma of religious factions who believe in supernatural doctrines I despise. Moreover I have no confidence in the competence of gullible people with superstitious, backward, outdated ideas.
This is why we need to stop wasting our efforts on conversion and concentrate more on convincing those who have already rejected religion. We need to demonstrate that it is in their interests to join a coherent effective political lobby such as the British Humanist Association, the clear front runner for this task, followed closely by the National Secular Society.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7875834.stm?lss
Sherine did well in the short time available. However, if this is the level of discussion we can expect from the BBC the public will soon lose interest in the debate.
The BBC seems to see the issue as one of belief rather than that of the substantive intrusion of religion into our secular state. What some people believe about god is not a pressing priority and wastes our opportunity to deal with more urgent, earthly matters. This is a debate that will be won by the evidence as it slowly permeates our cerebral traditions. So far, this evidence is wholly consistent with the idea that religion is a fairy tale.
Atheists do need to be worried by the intrusions religion is making into secular democratic institutions. I refer to the continuation of the privileged places for Bishops in the Lords, the millions leached from the exchequer for the upkeep of religious properties and the salaries of chaplains in the NHS and armed forces, the loss to the public purse through tax exemptions and divisive faith schools where children are indoctrinated into a worldview based on risible medieval myths.
Furthermore, both our major political parties have declared that they will hand over more public services to voluntary and charitable organisations which will, in many cases, be run by religious groups. They will be funded by the taxpayer so it is not their charity it is ours. As a taxpayer it will be my charity that is being gifted via the prejudices and dogma of religious factions who believe in supernatural doctrines I despise. Moreover I have no confidence in the competence of gullible people with superstitious, backward, outdated ideas.
This is why we need to stop wasting our efforts on conversion and concentrate more on convincing those who have already rejected religion. We need to demonstrate that it is in their interests to join a coherent effective political lobby such as the British Humanist Association, the clear front runner for this task, followed closely by the National Secular Society.
A christian group is thinking of putting the slogan:
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." on the sides of buses.
Surprisingly, I cannot take offense.
I am certainly a fool. My wife knows me well enough to be a good witness to all my foolishness so I cannot argue with that bit and I have often said that there is no god.
However my foolishness is not in any way related to my atheism.
The next bit, which they will not include goes:
"They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
Now if they are preaching nasty stuff like this in their churches it is hate speech. I do take offense and, at least, I want such passages removed from the bibles used in schools.
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." on the sides of buses.
Surprisingly, I cannot take offense.
I am certainly a fool. My wife knows me well enough to be a good witness to all my foolishness so I cannot argue with that bit and I have often said that there is no god.
However my foolishness is not in any way related to my atheism.
The next bit, which they will not include goes:
"They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
Now if they are preaching nasty stuff like this in their churches it is hate speech. I do take offense and, at least, I want such passages removed from the bibles used in schools.
A christian group is thinking of putting the slogan:
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." on the sides of buses.
Surprisingly, I cannot take offense.
I am certainly a fool. My wife knows me well enough to be a good witness to all my foolishness so I cannot argue with that bit and I have often said that there is no god.
However my foolishness is not in any way related to my atheism.
The next bit, which they will not include goes:
"They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
Now if they are preaching nasty stuff like this in their churches it is hate speech. I do take offense and, at least, I want such passages removed from the bibles used in schools.
"The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God." on the sides of buses.
Surprisingly, I cannot take offense.
I am certainly a fool. My wife knows me well enough to be a good witness to all my foolishness so I cannot argue with that bit and I have often said that there is no god.
However my foolishness is not in any way related to my atheism.
The next bit, which they will not include goes:
"They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."
Now if they are preaching nasty stuff like this in their churches it is hate speech. I do take offense and, at least, I want such passages removed from the bibles used in schools.
Ron Heather, 62, an evangelical Christian from Southampton, refused to drive a bus bearing an advert backed by the British Humanists dislaying the words:
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and go and enjoy your life".
It occurred to me that, as an atheist, I should refuse to board a bus driven by a religious idiot. This would be very inconvenient to me and do little to redress the privileged position of religion in our society.
Instead, I was struck by the hypocrisy in Mr Heathers protest. A christian would probably claim to champion altruism but this christian's actions were very selfish. As a public servant he would seek to punish the public, his co-workers and the management of the bus company with no sacrifice to himself.
It is time that, whilst allowing people to practice their chosen (or indoctrinated) religion in private, employment contracts contained a clause which prevents employees from any action which challenges the alternative beliefs of members of the public.
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and go and enjoy your life".
It occurred to me that, as an atheist, I should refuse to board a bus driven by a religious idiot. This would be very inconvenient to me and do little to redress the privileged position of religion in our society.
Instead, I was struck by the hypocrisy in Mr Heathers protest. A christian would probably claim to champion altruism but this christian's actions were very selfish. As a public servant he would seek to punish the public, his co-workers and the management of the bus company with no sacrifice to himself.
It is time that, whilst allowing people to practice their chosen (or indoctrinated) religion in private, employment contracts contained a clause which prevents employees from any action which challenges the alternative beliefs of members of the public.
Ron Heather, 62, an evangelical Christian from Southampton, refused to drive a bus bearing an advert backed by the British Humanists dislaying the words:
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and go and enjoy your life".
It occurred to me that, as an atheist, I should refuse to board a bus driven by a religious idiot. This would be very inconvenient to me and do little to redress the privileged position of religion in our society.
Instead, I was struck by the hypocrisy in Mr Heathers protest. A christian would probably claim to champion altruism but this christian's actions were very selfish. As a public servant he would seek to punish the public, his co-workers and the management of the bus company with no sacrifice to himself.
It is time that, whilst allowing people to practice their chosen (or indoctrinated) religion in private, employment contracts contained a clause which prevents employees from any action which challenges the alternative beliefs of members of the public.
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and go and enjoy your life".
It occurred to me that, as an atheist, I should refuse to board a bus driven by a religious idiot. This would be very inconvenient to me and do little to redress the privileged position of religion in our society.
Instead, I was struck by the hypocrisy in Mr Heathers protest. A christian would probably claim to champion altruism but this christian's actions were very selfish. As a public servant he would seek to punish the public, his co-workers and the management of the bus company with no sacrifice to himself.
It is time that, whilst allowing people to practice their chosen (or indoctrinated) religion in private, employment contracts contained a clause which prevents employees from any action which challenges the alternative beliefs of members of the public.
I heard Thought for the Day again on Radio 4. As usual there were a number of ridiculous, unchallenged assumptions, regarding the magic sky monster. I sent the following complaint:
"I often listen to the Today programme on Radio 4. However, I am finding the "Thought for the Day" slot more annoying and sometimes offensive because the contributors are always promoting their religious world-view in contradiction to and apparent ignorance of any other moral and ethical framework which does not rely on the supernatural. I have had reason to complain before and the replies have been dismissive and formulaic, whilst failing to address the points I have made. I hope that my treatment will be more respectful this time.
Some of these articles, apart from some shoehorned reference to scripture, are wholly material in content so there is no legitimate reason to exclude the Humanist, atheist and secular rationalists from this slot. This segregation can be due only to prejudice and an intention to marginalise millions of citizens who do not subscribe to a supernatural world-view. The inference is that without a belief in religious fairy tales one cannot be a moral or ethical member of our society.The fact that my own representatives are banned from making a contribution is offensive and insulting.The present situation must be remedied immediately either by scrapping it or by including regular contributions from those who are not religious.
"I often listen to the Today programme on Radio 4. However, I am finding the "Thought for the Day" slot more annoying and sometimes offensive because the contributors are always promoting their religious world-view in contradiction to and apparent ignorance of any other moral and ethical framework which does not rely on the supernatural. I have had reason to complain before and the replies have been dismissive and formulaic, whilst failing to address the points I have made. I hope that my treatment will be more respectful this time.
Some of these articles, apart from some shoehorned reference to scripture, are wholly material in content so there is no legitimate reason to exclude the Humanist, atheist and secular rationalists from this slot. This segregation can be due only to prejudice and an intention to marginalise millions of citizens who do not subscribe to a supernatural world-view. The inference is that without a belief in religious fairy tales one cannot be a moral or ethical member of our society.The fact that my own representatives are banned from making a contribution is offensive and insulting.The present situation must be remedied immediately either by scrapping it or by including regular contributions from those who are not religious.
I heard Thought for the Day again on Radio 4. As usual there were a number of ridiculous, unchallenged assumptions, regarding the magic sky monster. I sent the following complaint:
"I often listen to the Today programme on Radio 4. However, I am finding the "Thought for the Day" slot more annoying and sometimes offensive because the contributors are always promoting their religious world-view in contradiction to and apparent ignorance of any other moral and ethical framework which does not rely on the supernatural. I have had reason to complain before and the replies have been dismissive and formulaic, whilst failing to address the points I have made. I hope that my treatment will be more respectful this time.
Some of these articles, apart from some shoehorned reference to scripture, are wholly material in content so there is no legitimate reason to exclude the Humanist, atheist and secular rationalists from this slot. This segregation can be due only to prejudice and an intention to marginalise millions of citizens who do not subscribe to a supernatural world-view. The inference is that without a belief in religious fairy tales one cannot be a moral or ethical member of our society.The fact that my own representatives are banned from making a contribution is offensive and insulting.The present situation must be remedied immediately either by scrapping it or by including regular contributions from those who are not religious.
"I often listen to the Today programme on Radio 4. However, I am finding the "Thought for the Day" slot more annoying and sometimes offensive because the contributors are always promoting their religious world-view in contradiction to and apparent ignorance of any other moral and ethical framework which does not rely on the supernatural. I have had reason to complain before and the replies have been dismissive and formulaic, whilst failing to address the points I have made. I hope that my treatment will be more respectful this time.
Some of these articles, apart from some shoehorned reference to scripture, are wholly material in content so there is no legitimate reason to exclude the Humanist, atheist and secular rationalists from this slot. This segregation can be due only to prejudice and an intention to marginalise millions of citizens who do not subscribe to a supernatural world-view. The inference is that without a belief in religious fairy tales one cannot be a moral or ethical member of our society.The fact that my own representatives are banned from making a contribution is offensive and insulting.The present situation must be remedied immediately either by scrapping it or by including regular contributions from those who are not religious.
I have just sent the following complaint to Channel Five TV.......
Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you would regard this as a complaint and forward it to the correct department.
I have just witnessed, on Channel Five television, a sickening advertisement from a religious organisation called the Mormons. I was deeply offended by the content, presentation and claims made by this group. Individuals influenced by these people often suffer mental trauma and psychological damage, sometimes acting upon some of the silliest superstitious and supernatural beliefs. In the proper place, with alternative viewpoints and the presentation of evidence allowed such broadcasting would have been acceptable.
I repeat, I was offended.
(Name and address given)
Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you would regard this as a complaint and forward it to the correct department.
I have just witnessed, on Channel Five television, a sickening advertisement from a religious organisation called the Mormons. I was deeply offended by the content, presentation and claims made by this group. Individuals influenced by these people often suffer mental trauma and psychological damage, sometimes acting upon some of the silliest superstitious and supernatural beliefs. In the proper place, with alternative viewpoints and the presentation of evidence allowed such broadcasting would have been acceptable.
I repeat, I was offended.
(Name and address given)
I have just sent the following complaint to Channel Five TV.......
Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you would regard this as a complaint and forward it to the correct department.
I have just witnessed, on Channel Five television, a sickening advertisement from a religious organisation called the Mormons. I was deeply offended by the content, presentation and claims made by this group. Individuals influenced by these people often suffer mental trauma and psychological damage, sometimes acting upon some of the silliest superstitious and supernatural beliefs. In the proper place, with alternative viewpoints and the presentation of evidence allowed such broadcasting would have been acceptable.
I repeat, I was offended.
(Name and address given)
Dear Sir,
I would be grateful if you would regard this as a complaint and forward it to the correct department.
I have just witnessed, on Channel Five television, a sickening advertisement from a religious organisation called the Mormons. I was deeply offended by the content, presentation and claims made by this group. Individuals influenced by these people often suffer mental trauma and psychological damage, sometimes acting upon some of the silliest superstitious and supernatural beliefs. In the proper place, with alternative viewpoints and the presentation of evidence allowed such broadcasting would have been acceptable.
I repeat, I was offended.
(Name and address given)
I was going to comment on the recent statements made by the Bish of Cant regarding the disestablishment of the Church of England when I came across this piece by Terry Sanderson of the NSS. As usual he makes his case better than I can at the following link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/18/religion-anglicanism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/18/religion-anglicanism
I was going to comment on the recent statements made by the Bish of Cant regarding the disestablishment of the Church of England when I came across this piece by Terry Sanderson of the NSS. As usual he makes his case better than I can at the following link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/18/religion-anglicanism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/dec/18/religion-anglicanism
Would you like to see the life and work of Charles Darwin commemorated at Westminster Abbey to mark the 200th anniversary of his birth? If so, I invite you to sign the following petition: (you do NOT need to be a British Citizen)
http://petitions.dogonism.org/Darwin.html
Westminster Abbey is a public building. It was built for and by
our ancestors and is part of our inheritance. Just because we have
different beliefs (as do modern christians) to those of our ancestors it
does not mean we give up our rights. There is no good reason for
preventing any group from using it for a legitimate activity.
It is about time we stopped accepting these historical privileges which have given the churches so much wealth and power. Most of the old church building around this country belong to us - all of us, as of right. We cannot stop christians from using these buildings for religious purposes - even when it is on behalf of Darwin. Conversely, we have the right to use Westminster Abbey for a secular event in Darwin's honour.
http://petitions.dogonism.org/Darwin.html
Westminster Abbey is a public building. It was built for and by
our ancestors and is part of our inheritance. Just because we have
different beliefs (as do modern christians) to those of our ancestors it
does not mean we give up our rights. There is no good reason for
preventing any group from using it for a legitimate activity.
It is about time we stopped accepting these historical privileges which have given the churches so much wealth and power. Most of the old church building around this country belong to us - all of us, as of right. We cannot stop christians from using these buildings for religious purposes - even when it is on behalf of Darwin. Conversely, we have the right to use Westminster Abbey for a secular event in Darwin's honour.
Would you like to see the life and work of Charles Darwin commemorated at Westminster Abbey to mark the 200th anniversary of his birth? If so, I invite you to sign the following petition: (you do NOT need to be a British Citizen)
http://petitions.dogonism.org/Darwin.html
Westminster Abbey is a public building. It was built for and by
our ancestors and is part of our inheritance. Just because we have
different beliefs (as do modern christians) to those of our ancestors it
does not mean we give up our rights. There is no good reason for
preventing any group from using it for a legitimate activity.
It is about time we stopped accepting these historical privileges which have given the churches so much wealth and power. Most of the old church building around this country belong to us - all of us, as of right. We cannot stop christians from using these buildings for religious purposes - even when it is on behalf of Darwin. Conversely, we have the right to use Westminster Abbey for a secular event in Darwin's honour.
http://petitions.dogonism.org/Darwin.html
Westminster Abbey is a public building. It was built for and by
our ancestors and is part of our inheritance. Just because we have
different beliefs (as do modern christians) to those of our ancestors it
does not mean we give up our rights. There is no good reason for
preventing any group from using it for a legitimate activity.
It is about time we stopped accepting these historical privileges which have given the churches so much wealth and power. Most of the old church building around this country belong to us - all of us, as of right. We cannot stop christians from using these buildings for religious purposes - even when it is on behalf of Darwin. Conversely, we have the right to use Westminster Abbey for a secular event in Darwin's honour.
Britney Spears was raised a Baptist, and claimed at one time to be one of the “born again” pillocks. She was further contaminated with superstition when she took up the Kabbalah movement. It is rumoured that she has lately adopted a Christian life coach.
All you need to know about Kabbalah is contained in the following phrases from one of their web sites:
“The sources for the angels used in Kabbalah and ceremonial magic are primarily…..”
or
“The four best-known angels are……”
Angels, like pixies are fairytale creatures and people who believe they are real are clearly very gullible or nuts.
Poor Britney does not stand a chance whilst she is exposed to such extreme non-rationalism. We need to find a way to reach out to talented, delicate minds like hers before they are sucked in by the ever present religious vultures.
All you need to know about Kabbalah is contained in the following phrases from one of their web sites:
“The sources for the angels used in Kabbalah and ceremonial magic are primarily…..”
or
“The four best-known angels are……”
Angels, like pixies are fairytale creatures and people who believe they are real are clearly very gullible or nuts.
Poor Britney does not stand a chance whilst she is exposed to such extreme non-rationalism. We need to find a way to reach out to talented, delicate minds like hers before they are sucked in by the ever present religious vultures.
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