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Manic Street Preacher #2

So, Tony "The Lawman" carries a handgun when he's out preaching on the streets.

How do we know this?

Because he blogged about it. He later deleted the blog entry, but thanks to the vigilance of SMRT Jill D the blog post was saved. Below is thiat blog post, followed by a revealing exchange between Tony "PhD" Miano and a young Christian.



The Story of how I earned my 'Ph.D"

(Picture of handgun)

Don't freak. There's a good reason why there is a picture of a gun on my blog. :-)

I closed my last post with the following:

"One of the highlights of the afternoon was when Ray conferred upon me my first Ph.D. That's right. It's now "Dr. Lawman," thank you very much. To be continued....."

So, please, extend grace and patience to me while I digress from the usual evangelistic post and share with you, my friends and readers (not always one in the same), how I earned my first Ph.D.

As most of you already know, I spent twenty years of my adult life serving as a deputy sheriff with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. When I joined the Living Waters team at the beginning of the year, we all agreed that my presence would provide some additional security at headquarters, during film shoots (no pun intended), and whenever the need may arise.

From time to time, Ray will playfully ask, "Tony, are you packin' heat?"

Sometimes I answer. And sometimes, with a twinkle in my eye, I just give Ray a smile.

Well, for my birthday this year, I decided to treat myself to a new gun. When I retired from the Sheriff's Department, I had to turn in the firearm I carried for twenty years. And the other weapons I have are neither practical enough or tactical enough for life as a retired deputy sheriff. I needed something I could discreetly carry on my person that met my needs. So, I purchased the weapon pictured above: a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm Compact. Ain't she a beaut! (Okay. We law enforcement types get unusual birthday presents.)

Yesterday, as Ray, Mark, and I made our way to Hollywood Boulevard, Ray asked, "Tony, are you packin heat?"

"Yes, Ray." I answered with a smile.

"Does it have a name?"

"No, Ray, I don't name my guns. Some people do; but I just never thought of my guns that way."

"Well, we should come up with a code word, just in case we need it."

"Need what?"

"Your gun!"

"Ah, let's hope that never happens." I said. "Well you're always asking me if I'm packin' heat.

Why don't we use 'Paul Henry' -- 'P' for 'Paul,' and 'H' for 'Henry'. 'Packin' heat,' 'Paul Henry.'

How does that sound?

Ray thought for a moment. Ray is not only a master of analogies, but he is also a master of acronyms. "How about 'Ph.D.!'"

"Ph.D.?"

"Yeah. 'Ph.D.' 'Packin' Heat Dude!'"

We all laughed, and the acronym stuck. And that's how Ray Comfort conferred upon me my first (and likely only) Ph.D.

So, in the words of the radio legend, Paul Harvey, now you've heard the rest of the story. :-)


How weird is Ray Comfort?

This, the is an exchange of posts between Tony and a young believer.

Tony Miano,

I believe you misplaced this. No matter, that’s only part of why I’m emailing you. Rather, [and unfortunately] I find occasion to call account of a deed of your’s which I do not see as at all Biblical (quite the opposite, as I hope to convince you). Namely, your carrying of a gun.

First of all, please understand where I’m coming from. As something like a red-neck myself, I completely empathize with you for carrying a gun. I simply don’t believe you have the right. Did the Apostle Paul make any effort to defend himself? Or what of Steven? Or any of the other apostles? Yet their scenarios were far worse then your own, my friend. Rest assured you have the law on your side. Paul didn’t, but he by no means undertook to defend himself.

You talk enough about hell and judgment –you ought to be more practical about it. Could you honestly and deliberately take the life of an unbeliever, knowing very well where that person was going? Might I ask, whatever happened to turning the other cheek? Or is, perhaps, your ministry truly only about yourselves?

Provers 9:8 says “Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you. Rebuke a fool, and he will hate you.” I think you get the point.

Sincerly, your brother in Christ,
Jonathan Brennecke


The Lawman replies:
Jonathan,

You close your e-mail with “Sincerely, your brother in Christ.” Yet the tone of your e-mail, young man, is anything but brotherly or Christian. While you ask some legitimate questions, the manner in which you ask them smack of sarcasm. If you are looking for a rational and respectful conversation, then I welcome it. But I don’t abide the disrespect of my children (some who are older than you), so why would I accept it from you?

So, if you are a Christian, then approach me the way a young Christian man would approach an older Christian man. Change your attitude and maybe we will have a conversation. “Do not sharply rebuke an older man, but rather appeal to him as a father” (1 Timothy 5:1a).

One of the reasons I removed the article you referenced is because I came to realize that it might be a cause of stumbling for some. You validated this by the tone and content of your e-mail.

Again, I welcome your questions, so long as you can behave in a respectful manner.

I am in the middle of a conference, at the moment. So, if you do decide to change the tone of your rhetoric, we may be able to continue the conversation in a few days.


So, the question not addressed, Just a slapdown for not showing enough respect.

Jonathan replies:

Tony Miano,

I’ll be the first to admit that my tone was rash –is rash– but love is rash. Love is audacious. Love is uncompromsing. If you must glean nothing more from my words than that, so be it.

I will tell you what love is not. Love is not patronizing, not derisive, not condemning.

I may be young enough to be your son, but I am not your son –don’t patronize me. The future belongs to the young, Tony. Get off your high horse already and recall that Jesus said to come to him like a child.

Jon,
Pesharim


Tony responds with:
I may answer your questions in a future blog post. But until your attitude changes, this will end our conversation.


In the first reply Miano said one of the reasons he removed the post was:
I came to realize that it might be a cause of stumbling for some.
and he accusses Jon of having done exactly that.
"Causing someone to stumble" is a Christian euphamism for "I can do this thing because I have rationalised it to myself, but if you try and do it, you are not sufficiently spiritually mature and it will lead you into sin".
They tend to use it with regard to things that are not explicitly forbidden in the Bible, like smoking, for example, or heavy metal, or big fat mustaches.

Manic Street Preacher #2

So, Tony "The Lawman" carries a handgun when he's out preaching on the streets.

How do we know this?

Because he blogged about it. He later deleted the blog entry, but thanks to the vigilance of SMRT Jill D the blog post was saved. Below is thiat blog post, followed by a revealing exchange between Tony "PhD" Miano and a young Christian.



The Story of how I earned my 'Ph.D"

(Picture of handgun)

Don't freak. There's a good reason why there is a picture of a gun on my blog. :-)

I closed my last post with the following:

"One of the highlights of the afternoon was when Ray conferred upon me my first Ph.D. That's right. It's now "Dr. Lawman," thank you very much. To be continued....."

So, please, extend grace and patience to me while I digress from the usual evangelistic post and share with you, my friends and readers (not always one in the same), how I earned my first Ph.D.

As most of you already know, I spent twenty years of my adult life serving as a deputy sheriff with the Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department. When I joined the Living Waters team at the beginning of the year, we all agreed that my presence would provide some additional security at headquarters, during film shoots (no pun intended), and whenever the need may arise.

From time to time, Ray will playfully ask, "Tony, are you packin' heat?"

Sometimes I answer. And sometimes, with a twinkle in my eye, I just give Ray a smile.

Well, for my birthday this year, I decided to treat myself to a new gun. When I retired from the Sheriff's Department, I had to turn in the firearm I carried for twenty years. And the other weapons I have are neither practical enough or tactical enough for life as a retired deputy sheriff. I needed something I could discreetly carry on my person that met my needs. So, I purchased the weapon pictured above: a Smith & Wesson M&P 9mm Compact. Ain't she a beaut! (Okay. We law enforcement types get unusual birthday presents.)

Yesterday, as Ray, Mark, and I made our way to Hollywood Boulevard, Ray asked, "Tony, are you packin heat?"

"Yes, Ray." I answered with a smile.

"Does it have a name?"

"No, Ray, I don't name my guns. Some people do; but I just never thought of my guns that way."

"Well, we should come up with a code word, just in case we need it."

"Need what?"

"Your gun!"

"Ah, let's hope that never happens." I said. "Well you're always asking me if I'm packin' heat.

Why don't we use 'Paul Henry' -- 'P' for 'Paul,' and 'H' for 'Henry'. 'Packin' heat,' 'Paul Henry.'

How does that sound?

Ray thought for a moment. Ray is not only a master of analogies, but he is also a master of acronyms. "How about 'Ph.D.!'"

"Ph.D.?"

"Yeah. 'Ph.D.' 'Packin' Heat Dude!'"

We all laughed, and the acronym stuck. And that's how Ray Comfort conferred upon me my first (and likely only) Ph.D.

So, in the words of the radio legend, Paul Harvey, now you've heard the rest of the story. :-)


How weird is Ray Comfort?

This, the is an exchange of posts between Tony and a young believer.

Tony Miano,

I believe you misplaced this. No matter, that’s only part of why I’m emailing you. Rather, [and unfortunately] I find occasion to call account of a deed of your’s which I do not see as at all Biblical (quite the opposite, as I hope to convince you). Namely, your carrying of a gun.

First of all, please understand where I’m coming from. As something like a red-neck myself, I completely empathize with you for carrying a gun. I simply don’t believe you have the right. Did the Apostle Paul make any effort to defend himself? Or what of Steven? Or any of the other apostles? Yet their scenarios were far worse then your own, my friend. Rest assured you have the law on your side. Paul didn’t, but he by no means undertook to defend himself.

You talk enough about hell and judgment –you ought to be more practical about it. Could you honestly and deliberately take the life of an unbeliever, knowing very well where that person was going? Might I ask, whatever happened to turning the other cheek? Or is, perhaps, your ministry truly only about yourselves?

Provers 9:8 says “Rebuke a wise man, and he will love you. Rebuke a fool, and he will hate you.” I think you get the point.

Sincerly, your brother in Christ,
Jonathan Brennecke


The Lawman replies:
Jonathan,

You close your e-mail with “Sincerely, your brother in Christ.” Yet the tone of your e-mail, young man, is anything but brotherly or Christian. While you ask some legitimate questions, the manner in which you ask them smack of sarcasm. If you are looking for a rational and respectful conversation, then I welcome it. But I don’t abide the disrespect of my children (some who are older than you), so why would I accept it from you?

So, if you are a Christian, then approach me the way a young Christian man would approach an older Christian man. Change your attitude and maybe we will have a conversation. “Do not sharply rebuke an older man, but rather appeal to him as a father” (1 Timothy 5:1a).

One of the reasons I removed the article you referenced is because I came to realize that it might be a cause of stumbling for some. You validated this by the tone and content of your e-mail.

Again, I welcome your questions, so long as you can behave in a respectful manner.

I am in the middle of a conference, at the moment. So, if you do decide to change the tone of your rhetoric, we may be able to continue the conversation in a few days.


So, the question not addressed, Just a slapdown for not showing enough respect.

Jonathan replies:

Tony Miano,

I’ll be the first to admit that my tone was rash –is rash– but love is rash. Love is audacious. Love is uncompromsing. If you must glean nothing more from my words than that, so be it.

I will tell you what love is not. Love is not patronizing, not derisive, not condemning.

I may be young enough to be your son, but I am not your son –don’t patronize me. The future belongs to the young, Tony. Get off your high horse already and recall that Jesus said to come to him like a child.

Jon,
Pesharim


Tony responds with:
I may answer your questions in a future blog post. But until your attitude changes, this will end our conversation.


In the first reply Miano said one of the reasons he removed the post was:
I came to realize that it might be a cause of stumbling for some.
and he accusses Jon of having done exactly that.
"Causing someone to stumble" is a Christian euphamism for "I can do this thing because I have rationalised it to myself, but if you try and do it, you are not sufficiently spiritually mature and it will lead you into sin".
They tend to use it with regard to things that are not explicitly forbidden in the Bible, like smoking, for example, or heavy metal, or big fat mustaches.

Manic Street Preacher #1

Over at the SMRT forums someone posted a link to this video of Tony "The Lawman" Miano.



Tony "The Lawman" Miano is a colleague of Ray "Bananaman Comfort" at Living Waters. When I watched this video I was appalled by the hypocricy and the cowardice.

The video is hosted on YouTube channel called "TheLawman104". It's a bit strange because it looks like it's his channel, it says "Tony" next to the name field, but in all the video descriptions he talks about himself in the third person. Very Odd. Ray Comfort's been known to speak of himself in the third person too. It must be some Living Waters delusion of grandeur thing.

He calls himself "The Lawman" because he's ex-cop, and he's big on preaching "The Law" of the Bible. He's also big on mustache, and reminds me of the cop from Village People. Or the leather man.

He also carries a gun.

That's right. Watch the video. Hear how he refers to the crowds as "rabid". He says "The most loving thing you can do for a homosexual . . . is to lovingly share the Law and the Gospel with them" I don't think Biblical law is filled with love for homosexuality. And if it's all done so lovingly, why carry a gun?

On the other hand, he also believes that homosexuals are an abomination to his god. That makes his gun even more worrying.

I will shortly publish the post he deleted from his blog, where he tells of why he carries the gun, and how Ray Comfort came up with the nick-name/codeword "PhD" for Tony's gun. I will also post the discussion between Tony and a young Christian who contacted him asking about the morality of an armed evangalist.

Manic Street Preacher #1

Over at the SMRT forums someone posted a link to this video of Tony "The Lawman" Miano.



Tony "The Lawman" Miano is a colleague of Ray "Bananaman Comfort" at Living Waters. When I watched this video I was appalled by the hypocricy and the cowardice.

The video is hosted on YouTube channel called "TheLawman104". It's a bit strange because it looks like it's his channel, it says "Tony" next to the name field, but in all the video descriptions he talks about himself in the third person. Very Odd. Ray Comfort's been known to speak of himself in the third person too. It must be some Living Waters delusion of grandeur thing.

He calls himself "The Lawman" because he's ex-cop, and he's big on preaching "The Law" of the Bible. He's also big on mustache, and reminds me of the cop from Village People. Or the leather man.

He also carries a gun.

That's right. Watch the video. Hear how he refers to the crowds as "rabid". He says "The most loving thing you can do for a homosexual . . . is to lovingly share the Law and the Gospel with them" I don't think Biblical law is filled with love for homosexuality. And if it's all done so lovingly, why carry a gun?

On the other hand, he also believes that homosexuals are an abomination to his god. That makes his gun even more worrying.

I will shortly publish the post he deleted from his blog, where he tells of why he carries the gun, and how Ray Comfort came up with the nick-name/codeword "PhD" for Tony's gun. I will also post the discussion between Tony and a young Christian who contacted him asking about the morality of an armed evangalist.

Atheists don’t do charity, apparantly

How volunteering can stave off depression

Don't waste money on expensive therapy, give up your time for someone else


Julie Burchill reckons that athesists are too busy being intellectual to help anyone.

Those wonderful atheists are obviously too busy doing something intellectual to be bothered with helping others.


She also believes that depression is on the rise because:
a. People are less religious than before
b. People do less voluntary work than before
the Christian presence has stayed constant as middle-aged women have been tempted into more self-regarding activities. And as this has happened, their levels of depression have risen, because religious faith and voluntary work are the twin tried-and-tested pillars of happiness.


If you feel the self absorbed La Burchill needs correcting you might leave a comment on the article at the Times website, linked above.

Atheists don’t do charity, apparantly

How volunteering can stave off depression

Don't waste money on expensive therapy, give up your time for someone else


Julie Burchill reckons that athesists are too busy being intellectual to help anyone.

Those wonderful atheists are obviously too busy doing something intellectual to be bothered with helping others.


She also believes that depression is on the rise because:
a. People are less religious than before
b. People do less voluntary work than before
the Christian presence has stayed constant as middle-aged women have been tempted into more self-regarding activities. And as this has happened, their levels of depression have risen, because religious faith and voluntary work are the twin tried-and-tested pillars of happiness.


If you feel the self absorbed La Burchill needs correcting you might leave a comment on the article at the Times website, linked above.

A psychic gets one right!

Here's a turn up for the books.

From Charente Libre, our local paper, Saturday 6th December.

Original text below, my translatioàn is as follows:

Police dogs, helicopter, divers from La Rochelle ... For a week, they pulled out all the stops to try to find Jeanne Brault, a deaf and mute woman, 82 years old, who had left the hospital in Loudun Renaudot, Saturday 22 November. Just until last Saturday when the lifeless body of the octogenarian was eventually found by family members in the park of the hospital Loudun "thanks to a valuable visionary," according to one brother of the victim, Henri Brault. "My brother and my sister went to see a psychic last Saturday near Saumur. This psychic, without going to the scene, told them where she was. The police returned to Loudun that afternoon and found our sister about 17.30 where the psychic had told them. The doctor did not want to believe it. It is true that it is unbelievable, but it's like that! "

This psychic is Jacqueline Vitré (photo CL), a resident of Villebernier aged 65. Thirty-eight years of dowsing behind her. She says: "The family gave me the dressing gown of this lady and her picture. I set my pendulum above the dressing gown and I felt that person could be at this place. I have even made a little drawing on which I stated that it was in a wood at the foot of quite a large tree, near the hospital. I advised family members to search in this direction. I also made it understood that for me, she had died. I saw her sitting at the foot of the tree. However, she was found lying down."

That is the only error for the visionary, as for the rest, her visions have proved correct. So much so that the gendarmes of Loudun, surprised at this "paranormal aid", called the psychic into the station. "They wanted details. I can not explain it. It's just a matter of feeling."

An autopsy on the body of the octogenarian revealed that "the cause of death was natural." The prosecutor further states that "any suspicious circumstances have been ruled out. The only question left is to establish the time of death to within 48 hours."

One of the brothers of the victim is struggling to explain how his sister had not been found by police during the week of their search as the place where her body was found had been searched by them. "The day before her death, I saw her," says Henri Brault. "She wasn't well. She had problems. We do not know how she left the hospital." For the visionary, Jeanne Brault wandered away from the hospital during the searchh conducted by police and then retraced her steps toward the park of the hospital where she would be be found.

jaqueline Vitré

I suppose sooner or later psychics get lucky. I have to consider some alternatives other than psychic phenomenon, because that would be a real challenge to my world view.
Logically of course the psychic new that the lady was old, sick and frail and couldn't have gone far. She is a local woman so she probably knows the hosptal and its grounds. I certainly know the hospital at Girac very well now. She would have deduced that if the woman was in the open she would have been found. That leaves either an abduction if she had reached the roads around the hospital, or she was still within the grounds but in a place with cover, like woods.


Brigade cynophile, hélicoptère, plongeurs de La Rochelle... Pendant une semaine, de très gros moyens de recherches ont été déployés pour tenter de retrouver Jeanne Brault, une femme de 82 ans sourde et muette qui avait quitté l'hôpital Renaudot à Loudun le samedi 22 novembre. Jusqu'à samedi dernier. Le corps sans vie de l'octogénaire a finalement été retrouvé par des membres de la famille dans le parc de l'hôpital de Loudun «grâce aux précieuses indications d'une voyante», d'après l'un des frères de la victime, Henri Brault. «Mon frère et mes sœurs sont allés voir samedi dernier une voyante du côté de Saumur. Cette voyante, sans se déplacer sur les lieux, leur a dit où elle se trouvait. Ils sont revenus à Loudun l'après-midi même et ils ont retrouvé notre sœur vers 17h30 là où la voyante leur avait dit. Le médecin ne voulait pas y croire. C'est vrai que c'est incroyable, mais c'est comme ça!»

Cette voyante, c'est Jacqueline Vitré (• photo CL), une habitante de Villebernier âgé de 65 ans. Trente-huit ans de radiesthésiste derrière elle. Elle témoigne: «La famille m'a apporté la robe de chambre de cette dame ainsi que sa photo. J'ai mis mon pendule au-dessus de la robe de chambre et j'ai ressenti que la personne disparue pouvait se trouver à tel endroit. Je leur ai même fait un petit dessin sur lequel je leur précisais qu'elle se trouvait dans un bois au pied d'un arbre assez gros, près de l'hôpital. J'ai conseillé aux membres de la famille de faire les recherches en ce sens. Je leur ai également fait comprendre que pour moi, elle était décédée. Je la voyais assise au pied de l'arbre. Or, elle a été retrouvée allongée.»

C'est là la seule erreur de la voyante car pour le reste, ses visions se sont avérées justes. Au point que les gendarmes de Loudun, surpris de cette «aide paranormale», ont convoqué la voyante dans leurs locaux. «Ils voulaient avoir des détails. Je ne saurais pas l'expliquer. C'est juste une question de ressenti.»

Une autopsie pratiquée sur le corps de l'octogénaire a révélé que «la cause de la mort était naturelle». Le procureur de la République précise en outre que «toute forme d'intervention extérieure est exclue. Le seul doute réside dans la fixation exacte de l'horaire du décès à 48 heures près».

L'un des frères de la victime a du mal à s'expliquer comment sa sœur n'avait pu être retrouvée par les gendarmes pendant la semaine de leurs recherches alors que l'endroit où son corps a été découvert avait déjà été fouillé par les fonctionnaires. «La veille de sa disparition, je l'avais vue, raconte Henri Brault. Elle n'allait pas bien. Elle avait des ennuis. On ne sait pas comment elle a quitté l'hôpital.» Pour la voyante, Jeanne Brault se serait éloignée de l'hôpital lors des recherches menées par les gendarmes et serait revenue ensuite sur ses pas en direction du parc de l'hôpital où elle devait être retrouvée.

A psychic gets one right!

Here's a turn up for the books.

From Charente Libre, our local paper, Saturday 6th December.

Original text below, my translatioàn is as follows:

Police dogs, helicopter, divers from La Rochelle ... For a week, they pulled out all the stops to try to find Jeanne Brault, a deaf and mute woman, 82 years old, who had left the hospital in Loudun Renaudot, Saturday 22 November. Just until last Saturday when the lifeless body of the octogenarian was eventually found by family members in the park of the hospital Loudun "thanks to a valuable visionary," according to one brother of the victim, Henri Brault. "My brother and my sister went to see a psychic last Saturday near Saumur. This psychic, without going to the scene, told them where she was. The police returned to Loudun that afternoon and found our sister about 17.30 where the psychic had told them. The doctor did not want to believe it. It is true that it is unbelievable, but it's like that! "

This psychic is Jacqueline Vitré (photo CL), a resident of Villebernier aged 65. Thirty-eight years of dowsing behind her. She says: "The family gave me the dressing gown of this lady and her picture. I set my pendulum above the dressing gown and I felt that person could be at this place. I have even made a little drawing on which I stated that it was in a wood at the foot of quite a large tree, near the hospital. I advised family members to search in this direction. I also made it understood that for me, she had died. I saw her sitting at the foot of the tree. However, she was found lying down."

That is the only error for the visionary, as for the rest, her visions have proved correct. So much so that the gendarmes of Loudun, surprised at this "paranormal aid", called the psychic into the station. "They wanted details. I can not explain it. It's just a matter of feeling."

An autopsy on the body of the octogenarian revealed that "the cause of death was natural." The prosecutor further states that "any suspicious circumstances have been ruled out. The only question left is to establish the time of death to within 48 hours."

One of the brothers of the victim is struggling to explain how his sister had not been found by police during the week of their search as the place where her body was found had been searched by them. "The day before her death, I saw her," says Henri Brault. "She wasn't well. She had problems. We do not know how she left the hospital." For the visionary, Jeanne Brault wandered away from the hospital during the searchh conducted by police and then retraced her steps toward the park of the hospital where she would be be found.

jaqueline Vitré

I suppose sooner or later psychics get lucky. I have to consider some alternatives other than psychic phenomenon, because that would be a real challenge to my world view.
Logically of course the psychic new that the lady was old, sick and frail and couldn't have gone far. She is a local woman so she probably knows the hosptal and its grounds. I certainly know the hospital at Girac very well now. She would have deduced that if the woman was in the open she would have been found. That leaves either an abduction if she had reached the roads around the hospital, or she was still within the grounds but in a place with cover, like woods.


Brigade cynophile, hélicoptère, plongeurs de La Rochelle... Pendant une semaine, de très gros moyens de recherches ont été déployés pour tenter de retrouver Jeanne Brault, une femme de 82 ans sourde et muette qui avait quitté l'hôpital Renaudot à Loudun le samedi 22 novembre. Jusqu'à samedi dernier. Le corps sans vie de l'octogénaire a finalement été retrouvé par des membres de la famille dans le parc de l'hôpital de Loudun «grâce aux précieuses indications d'une voyante», d'après l'un des frères de la victime, Henri Brault. «Mon frère et mes sœurs sont allés voir samedi dernier une voyante du côté de Saumur. Cette voyante, sans se déplacer sur les lieux, leur a dit où elle se trouvait. Ils sont revenus à Loudun l'après-midi même et ils ont retrouvé notre sœur vers 17h30 là où la voyante leur avait dit. Le médecin ne voulait pas y croire. C'est vrai que c'est incroyable, mais c'est comme ça!»

Cette voyante, c'est Jacqueline Vitré (• photo CL), une habitante de Villebernier âgé de 65 ans. Trente-huit ans de radiesthésiste derrière elle. Elle témoigne: «La famille m'a apporté la robe de chambre de cette dame ainsi que sa photo. J'ai mis mon pendule au-dessus de la robe de chambre et j'ai ressenti que la personne disparue pouvait se trouver à tel endroit. Je leur ai même fait un petit dessin sur lequel je leur précisais qu'elle se trouvait dans un bois au pied d'un arbre assez gros, près de l'hôpital. J'ai conseillé aux membres de la famille de faire les recherches en ce sens. Je leur ai également fait comprendre que pour moi, elle était décédée. Je la voyais assise au pied de l'arbre. Or, elle a été retrouvée allongée.»

C'est là la seule erreur de la voyante car pour le reste, ses visions se sont avérées justes. Au point que les gendarmes de Loudun, surpris de cette «aide paranormale», ont convoqué la voyante dans leurs locaux. «Ils voulaient avoir des détails. Je ne saurais pas l'expliquer. C'est juste une question de ressenti.»

Une autopsie pratiquée sur le corps de l'octogénaire a révélé que «la cause de la mort était naturelle». Le procureur de la République précise en outre que «toute forme d'intervention extérieure est exclue. Le seul doute réside dans la fixation exacte de l'horaire du décès à 48 heures près».

L'un des frères de la victime a du mal à s'expliquer comment sa sœur n'avait pu être retrouvée par les gendarmes pendant la semaine de leurs recherches alors que l'endroit où son corps a été découvert avait déjà été fouillé par les fonctionnaires. «La veille de sa disparition, je l'avais vue, raconte Henri Brault. Elle n'allait pas bien. Elle avait des ennuis. On ne sait pas comment elle a quitté l'hôpital.» Pour la voyante, Jeanne Brault se serait éloignée de l'hôpital lors des recherches menées par les gendarmes et serait revenue ensuite sur ses pas en direction du parc de l'hôpital où elle devait être retrouvée.

Obama shits in Jesus’ manger

Do what?
In Catalonia (Spain) it is traditional to make little nativity scenes with figurines.

And you can buy the figurines of shepherds, sheep, Mary, Joseph et al at Christmas markets there.

And to add to these, little figurines of famous people having a crap.

At this link there is a slide show of the kind of stuff they do, including Obama, Merkel, Sarkozy and Brown all with their pants down

Obama shits in Jesus’ manger

Do what?
In Catalonia (Spain) it is traditional to make little nativity scenes with figurines.

And you can buy the figurines of shepherds, sheep, Mary, Joseph et al at Christmas markets there.

And to add to these, little figurines of famous people having a crap.

At this link there is a slide show of the kind of stuff they do, including Obama, Merkel, Sarkozy and Brown all with their pants down

Witchcraft in the 21st cnetury

Here is a terrible story about child withches in Nigeria.

Fundie Chfristianity, merged with traditional beliefs has caused a plague of evangelical churches springing up who have wich hunt services. Children are accused and tortured until the confess. Then they are ostracised or killed.

In the midst of this horrifying tale, living proof of how religion ruins everything is this statement from Sam Itauma, a Nigerian who is helping these children, currently caring for 150 homeless outcasts.

"Christianity in the Niger Delta is seriously questionable, putting a traditional religion together with Christian religion - and it makes nonsense out of it,"


No, Sam, it is a nonsense already. I am fairly certain that everything these evil people do can be backed up by Bible verses.

Witchcraft in the 21st cnetury

Here is a terrible story about child withches in Nigeria.

Fundie Chfristianity, merged with traditional beliefs has caused a plague of evangelical churches springing up who have wich hunt services. Children are accused and tortured until the confess. Then they are ostracised or killed.

In the midst of this horrifying tale, living proof of how religion ruins everything is this statement from Sam Itauma, a Nigerian who is helping these children, currently caring for 150 homeless outcasts.

"Christianity in the Niger Delta is seriously questionable, putting a traditional religion together with Christian religion - and it makes nonsense out of it,"


No, Sam, it is a nonsense already. I am fairly certain that everything these evil people do can be backed up by Bible verses.

Child Abuse?

This lady and I grew up in the same country, Zimbabwe. We both left that country to find better lives elsewhere. That's where the similarity ends. For she is a fundimental born again Christian. And she believes her 4 year old daughter is a wretched sinner.

Sometimes during the day or before bed, she always asks me if she has been good, and I always try to be as honest as I can with her, and I will tell her what she has done wrong if I can remember. If she has been better than usual I will praise her and tell her. I have never said to her she has been a perfect little girl who has done nothing wrong all day, If I say that to her then I am a liar and I will be doing her more harm than good. I do not believe in teaching children self esteem or that they should feel good about themselves, because they should not. My daughter is a normal 4 year old who loves to play with her dolls and dress up, but everyday she finds that she is doing things that are wrong like doing something to upset her baby brother or not doing what she is told by her mum. So we have a problem, and this is an everyday battle. The problem is sin. I never taught my daughter to sin. This is because she, and as well as the rest of the human race have inherited a sinful nature from Adam. From the moment we are conceived we are sinners, Pslam 57:5. We are born with a desire to sin. We are all born God hating and evil.


The poor wee mite then told her mother that although she tries to be good, she can't and that she knew that only Jesus could help her to be good.
Jean thinks that she has left no imprint on this child and so it must be the Holy Spirit that has revealed this to the poor tortured girl.

This is bordering on child abuse, and I told her that in the comments.

I don't know if she will delete it, probably not because she is not scared of confrontation on her blog. She took a lot of flak for a previous post on her support for slavery.

Oh Jean, I am disappointed.

That is only a step away from child abuse.

4 years old and wracked with guilt daily.

"I do not believe in teaching children self esteem"

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear.

"So we have a problem, and this is an everyday battle"

Oh my word.

"She is a wretched little girl, who knows she is a wretched sinner who needs only a good saviour to help her."

Jean, that is terrible. Terrible. It amazes me that you and I who have some things in common can be so polarised, so far apart.

This post is one of the most shocking things I have ever read. And to think that you are pleased about it and want to share it, and to think that other people have written to say they admire you for it. Your poor little girl. If I was the praying kind I'd be praying for her right now.

Child Abuse?

This lady and I grew up in the same country, Zimbabwe. We both left that country to find better lives elsewhere. That's where the similarity ends. For she is a fundimental born again Christian. And she believes her 4 year old daughter is a wretched sinner.

Sometimes during the day or before bed, she always asks me if she has been good, and I always try to be as honest as I can with her, and I will tell her what she has done wrong if I can remember. If she has been better than usual I will praise her and tell her. I have never said to her she has been a perfect little girl who has done nothing wrong all day, If I say that to her then I am a liar and I will be doing her more harm than good. I do not believe in teaching children self esteem or that they should feel good about themselves, because they should not. My daughter is a normal 4 year old who loves to play with her dolls and dress up, but everyday she finds that she is doing things that are wrong like doing something to upset her baby brother or not doing what she is told by her mum. So we have a problem, and this is an everyday battle. The problem is sin. I never taught my daughter to sin. This is because she, and as well as the rest of the human race have inherited a sinful nature from Adam. From the moment we are conceived we are sinners, Pslam 57:5. We are born with a desire to sin. We are all born God hating and evil.


The poor wee mite then told her mother that although she tries to be good, she can't and that she knew that only Jesus could help her to be good.
Jean thinks that she has left no imprint on this child and so it must be the Holy Spirit that has revealed this to the poor tortured girl.

This is bordering on child abuse, and I told her that in the comments.

I don't know if she will delete it, probably not because she is not scared of confrontation on her blog. She took a lot of flak for a previous post on her support for slavery.

Oh Jean, I am disappointed.

That is only a step away from child abuse.

4 years old and wracked with guilt daily.

"I do not believe in teaching children self esteem"

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear.

"So we have a problem, and this is an everyday battle"

Oh my word.

"She is a wretched little girl, who knows she is a wretched sinner who needs only a good saviour to help her."

Jean, that is terrible. Terrible. It amazes me that you and I who have some things in common can be so polarised, so far apart.

This post is one of the most shocking things I have ever read. And to think that you are pleased about it and want to share it, and to think that other people have written to say they admire you for it. Your poor little girl. If I was the praying kind I'd be praying for her right now.

Atheist Muslims

More power to them.

It was bound to happen, and I hope it continues.

Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

They have taken their lead from the Central Council of Ex-Muslims in Germany

I am not sure, but I suspect that the state of athesim in the muslim community might be where atheism in christian societies was 50 years ago.

Please encourage these bright and brave people and help reach other muslim doubters by linking to them.

The manifest is solid:
01 Universal rights and equal citizenship for all. We are opposed to cultural relativism and the tolerance of inhuman beliefs, discrimination and abuse in the name of respecting religion or culture.
02 Freedom to criticise religion. Prohibition of restrictions on unconditional freedom of criticism and expression using so-called religious 'sanctities'.
03 Freedom of religion and atheism.
04 Separation of religion from the state and legal and educational system.
05 Prohibition of religious customs, rules, ceremonies or activities that are incompatible with or infringe people's rights and freedoms.
06 Abolition of all restrictive and repressive cultural and religious customs which hinder and contradict woman's independence, free will and equality. Prohibition of segregation of sexes.
07 Prohibition of interference by any authority, family members or relatives, or official authorities in the private lives of women and men and their personal, emotional and sexual relationships and sexuality.
08 Protection of children from manipulation and abuse by religion and religious institutions.
09 Prohibition of any kind of financial, material or moral support by the state or state institutions to religion and religious activities and institutions.
10 Prohibition of all forms of religious intimidation and threats.

Atheist Muslims

More power to them.

It was bound to happen, and I hope it continues.

Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain

They have taken their lead from the Central Council of Ex-Muslims in Germany

I am not sure, but I suspect that the state of athesim in the muslim community might be where atheism in christian societies was 50 years ago.

Please encourage these bright and brave people and help reach other muslim doubters by linking to them.

The manifest is solid:
01 Universal rights and equal citizenship for all. We are opposed to cultural relativism and the tolerance of inhuman beliefs, discrimination and abuse in the name of respecting religion or culture.
02 Freedom to criticise religion. Prohibition of restrictions on unconditional freedom of criticism and expression using so-called religious 'sanctities'.
03 Freedom of religion and atheism.
04 Separation of religion from the state and legal and educational system.
05 Prohibition of religious customs, rules, ceremonies or activities that are incompatible with or infringe people's rights and freedoms.
06 Abolition of all restrictive and repressive cultural and religious customs which hinder and contradict woman's independence, free will and equality. Prohibition of segregation of sexes.
07 Prohibition of interference by any authority, family members or relatives, or official authorities in the private lives of women and men and their personal, emotional and sexual relationships and sexuality.
08 Protection of children from manipulation and abuse by religion and religious institutions.
09 Prohibition of any kind of financial, material or moral support by the state or state institutions to religion and religious activities and institutions.
10 Prohibition of all forms of religious intimidation and threats.