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		<title>2 Nephi 26: All those who have dwindled in unbelief shall not be forgotten.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nephi tells us, once again, all about Jesus, 600 or so years before Jesus existed.

After Jesus dies he will rise from the dead and come&#160;visit&#160;the Nephites in North America. The Nephites will learn about his birth, death, and&#160;resurrectio...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Nephi tells us, once again, all about Jesus, 600 or so years before Jesus existed.<br />
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After Jesus dies he will rise from the dead and come&nbsp;visit&nbsp;the Nephites in North America. The Nephites will learn about his birth, death, and&nbsp;resurrection;&nbsp;then all hell will break loose. Proud and wicked Nephites will stone to death the Nephite saints and prophets, then God will cause the proud and the wicked to be swallowed by the earth, covered with mountains, carried away by whirlwinds, crushed by falling buildings, destroyed by thunder, lightening, earthquakes, and fire.<br />
<blockquote>After Christ shall have risen from the dead he shall show himself unto you, my children. <br />
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Many generations shall pass away, and there shall be great wars and contentions among my people.<br />
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And after the Messiah shall come there shall be signs given unto my people of his birth, and also of his death and resurrection; and great and terrible shall that day be unto the wicked, for they shall perish; and they perish because they cast out the prophets, and the saints, and stone them, and slay them.<br />
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All those who are proud, and that do wickedly, the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of Hosts. <br />
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They that kill the prophets, and the saints, the depths of the earth shall swallow them up, saith the Lord of Hosts; and mountains shall cover them, and whirlwinds shall carry them away, and buildings shall fall upon them and crush them to pieces and grind them to powder.<br />
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And they shall be visited with thunderings, and lightnings, and earthquakes, and all manner of destructions, for the fire of the anger of the Lord shall be kindled against them, and they shall be as stubble, and the day that cometh shall consume them, saith the Lord of Hosts. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#1">2 Nephi 26:1-6</a></blockquote>After the wicked kill the righteous and God kills the wicked, Jesus will heal whatever survivors there may be and there will be peace for three or four generations. Then the Nephites will "yield to the devil," be destroyed again, and "go down to hell."<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">But the Son of righteousness shall appear unto them; and he shall heal them, and they shall have peace with him, until three generations shall have passed away, and many of the fourth generation shall have passed away in righteousness.</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">And when these things have passed away a speedy destruction cometh unto my people ... they shall reap destruction; for because they yield unto the devil ... therefore they must go down to hell. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#9">2 Nephi 26:9-10&nbsp;</a></blockquote>Sometime after the Nephites are destroyed, the Gentiles (Non-Mormon Protestants) will start believing that Jesus is the Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">It must needs be that the Gentiles be convinced also that Jesus is the Christ, the Eternal God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#12">2 Nephi 26:12</a></blockquote>In the last days, after the Gentiles are converted, Nephi's seed will dwindle in unbelief and be smitten by the Gentiles. God will camp out against the dwindlers and "all those that dwindle in unbelief shall not be forgotten."<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">I prophesy unto you concerning the last days.</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">After my seed ... shall have dwindled in unbelief, and shall have been smitten by the Gentiles; yea, after the Lord God shall have camped against them round about ... all those who have dwindled in unbelief shall not be forgotten. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#14">2 Nephi 26:14-15</a></blockquote>Then, in the latter days of the last days, the truths in the Book of Mormon will be written, but those who dwindle in unbelief won't believe them because "they seek to destroy the things of God."<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">For thus saith the Lord God: They shall write the things which shall be done among them, and they shall be written and sealed up in a book, and those who have dwindled in unbelief shall not have them, for they seek to destroy the things of God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#17">2 Nephi 26:17</a></blockquote>And it will come to pass that those who dwindle in unbelief will be smitten (again) by the Gentiles.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">And it shall come to pass, that those who have dwindled in unbelief shall be smitten by the hand of the Gentiles. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#19">2 Nephi 26:19</a></blockquote>Then the Gentiles will stumble "because of the greatness of their stumbling block" by building evil churches according to the secret combinations of the devil (who founded all the non-LDS churches).<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">The Gentiles ... stumbled, because of the greatness of their stumbling block, that they have built up many churches ... which cause envyings, and strifes, and malice.</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">And there are also secret combinations ... according to the combinations of the devil, for he is the founder of all these things. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#20">2 Nephi 26:20-22</a></blockquote>Which leaves us with the only true church: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. You know, the one that teaches love and tolerance toward all. (Its code name is "Zion" in the Book of Mormon.)<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">The Lord God hath given a commandment that all men should have charity, which charity is love, and except they should have charity they were nothing.&nbsp;</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">But the laborer in Zion shall labor for Zion; for if they labor for money they shall perish.</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">For ... the Lord ... denieth none that come unto him, black and white, bond and free, male and female; and he remembereth the heathen; and all are alike unto God, both Jew and Gentile.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/26.html#30">2 Nephi 26:30-33</a></blockquote><br /><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-6328455889823348730?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Some Bible verses for Mother&#8217;s Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It's not easy to find a good Bible verse for Mother's Day.
But here are the best I can find.

From the book of Hosea.

Plead with your mother, plead: ... let her ... put away her whoredoms ... and her adulteries from between her breasts;&#160;&#160;Les...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It's not easy to find a good Bible verse for Mother's Day.<br />
But here are the best I can find.<br />
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From the book of Hosea.<br />
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Plead with your mother, plead: ... let her ... put away her whoredoms ... and her adulteries from between her breasts;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lest I strip her naked ...&nbsp;and slay her with thirst. &nbsp;</blockquote>
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And I will not have mercy upon her children; for they be the children of whoredoms. ...For their mother hath played the harlot. </blockquote>
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Now will I discover her lewdness in the sight of her lovers, and none shall deliver her out of mine hand.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/2.html#2">Hosea 2:2-10</a></blockquote>
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Give them, O LORD: what wilt thou give? give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. ...&nbsp;I will love them no more. &nbsp;...&nbsp;Yea, though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/9.html#14">Hosea 9:14-16</a></blockquote>
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&nbsp;Their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/13.html#16"> Hosea 13:16</a></blockquote>
And Deuteronomy.<br />
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The tender and delicate woman among you ... her eye shall be evil ... toward her son, and toward her daughter,&nbsp;And toward her young one that cometh out from between her feet, and toward her children which she shall bear: for she shall eat them. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/28.html#56">Deuteronomy 28:56-57</a></blockquote>
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Or how about the inspiring words of Jesus?<br />
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I am come to set ... the daughter against her mother. ... <b>He that loveth ... mother more than me is not worthy of me.</b> &nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#35">Matthew 10:35-37</a></blockquote>
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Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/11.html#27"> Luke 11:27-28&nbsp;</a></blockquote>
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<b>If any man come to me, and hate not his ... mother ... he cannot be my disciple.</b> <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/14.html#26">Luke 14:26</a>&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Behold, thy mother ... seek(s) for thee. And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother? <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/3.html#32">Mark 3:32-33</a></blockquote>
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Woman, what have I to do with thee? (Jesus talking to his mother) &nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/2.html#4">John 2:4</a></blockquote>
Any of these would look nice on a Mother's Day card, don't you think?<br />
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		<title>What the Bible says about Homosexuality</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2012 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Homosexuality is an abomination to God (like shrimp).



Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. Leviticus 18:22  



Except that unlike eating shrimp, the punishment for homosexuality is death.



If a man also lie with...]]></description>
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<dt>Homosexuality is an abomination to God (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/shrimp.html">like shrimp</a>).<br />
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<dd>Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/18.html#22">Leviticus 18:22</a>  

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<dt>Except that unlike eating shrimp, the punishment for homosexuality is death.<br />
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<dd>If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them  have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/20.html#13">Leviticus 20:13</a>  

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<dt>Or exile.</dt>
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<dd>Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD ... And he took away the sodomites out of the land. ...&nbsp;Asa's heart was perfect with the LORD all his days. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1kg/15.html#11">1 Kings 15:11-14</a>  

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<br /></dd><dd>Jehoshaphat ... walked in all the ways of Asa his father ... doing that which was right in the eyes of the LORD ...&nbsp;The remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1kg/22.html#42">1 Kings 22:42-46</a>  

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<dt>And the New Testament is just as intolerant toward homosexuals.</dt>
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<dd>For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their  women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another; men with men&nbsp;working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.&nbsp;(<a href="http://youtu.be/n_wa9lnSSN4">God will make you gay!</a>)  <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/1.html#26">Romans 1:26-27</a>  

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<br /></dd><dd>God gave them over to a reprobate mind ...  without natural affection ... they which commit such things are worthy of death,&nbsp;not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.  <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/1.html#28">Romans 1:28-32</a>  

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<br /></dd><dd>The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom ... neither fornicators ... nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind ...&nbsp;shall inherit the kingdom of God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/6.html#9">1 Corinthians 6:9-10</a>  

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<br /></dd><dd>Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for ... them that defile themselves with mankind ...&nbsp;and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine ... These filthy dreamers defile the flesh. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/1.html#9">1 Timothy 1:9-10</a>  

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<br /></dd><dd>Even as Sodom and Gomorrha ... giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh ...&nbsp;suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jude/1.html#7">Jude 7-8</a>  

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<br /></dd>
<dt>Except for Jesus (who hung out with 12 guys and never said anything bad about homosexuality) who said that &nbsp;you can increase your chances of being raptured by being gay. (<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2012/03/luke-1734-and-pray-to-be-gay-day.html">So pray to be gay!</a>)<br />
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<dd>I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.&nbsp;Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left. <a href="http://www.blogger.com/lk/17.html#34">Luke 17:34-35</a>  

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<dt>And finally, rejoice and be glad when you see homosexuals (lead about by silly, lusty, educated women), because then you'll know&nbsp;for sure that Jesus is coming soon.<br />
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<dd>In the last days ... men shall be  ... without natural affection ... lovers of pleasures ... lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,&nbsp;... ever learning. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2tim/3.html#1">2 Timothy 3:1-7</a>  </dd></dl><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-6728367713349198522?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>2 Nephi 25: Nephi speaks (somewhat) plainly about Jews, Jesus, and Joseph Smith</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2012 22:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nephi finally gives us a break from quoting Isaiah (2 Nephi 11-24) and begins to speak (somewhat) about the the 13 chapters he copied from the King James Version of the Bible (about 2200 years before that translation existed).

Now I, Nephi, do speak s...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Nephi finally gives us a break from quoting Isaiah (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html">2 Nephi 11</a>-<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/24.html">24</a>) and begins to speak (somewhat) about the the 13 chapters he copied from the King James Version of the Bible (about 2200 years before that translation existed).<br />
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Now I, Nephi, do speak somewhat concerning the words which I have written, which have been spoken by the mouth of Isaiah. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#1">2 Nephi 25:1</a></blockquote>
First he tells us about Jews.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
The Jews ... works were works of darkness, and their doings were doings of abominations. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#2">2 Nephi 25:2</a></blockquote>
Then he explains why no one understands Isaiah. &nbsp;To understand Isaiah properly, you need to delight in plainness and be filled with the spirit of prophecy. And Nephi is full of prophecy and plainness.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
The words of Isaiah are not plain unto you, nevertheless they are plain unto all those that are filled with the spirit of prophecy ... My soul delighteth in plainness unto my people.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#4">2 Nephi 25:4</a></blockquote>
But Nephi's soul delights in more than just plainness; it also delights in the words of Isaiah. (That's probably why he included 13 consecutive chapters from Isaiah. See <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html">2 Nephi 11</a>-<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/24.html">24</a>)<br />
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My soul delighteth in the words of Isaiah. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#5">2 Nephi 25:5a</a></blockquote>
The trouble with Jews (besides doing abominable works of darkness) is that Jews just don't understand Isaiah and prophets. The only people that understand such things are people that are taught after the manner of the Jews. (You've got to be taught by Jews without becoming one yourself.)<br />
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The Jews do understand the things of the prophets, and there is none other people that understand the things which were spoken unto the Jews like unto them, save it be that they are taught after the manner of the things of the Jews. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#5">2 Nephi 25:5b</a></blockquote>
And lucky for us, Nephi is from Jerusalem and knows all about all things such as and suchlike.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;But behold, I, Nephi ... have dwelt at Jerusalem, wherefore I know concerning the regions round about. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#6">2 Nephi 25:6</a></blockquote>
With his prophecy credentials intact, Nephi proceeds with his own prophecy according to his plainness.<br />
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Behold, I proceed with mine own prophecy, according to my plainness. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#7">2 Nephi 25:7</a></blockquote>
He starts by telling us a bit more about Jews. God has destroyed them from one generation to the next because of their iniquities.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
As one generation hath been destroyed among the Jews because of iniquity, even so have they been destroyed from generation to generation according to their iniquities. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#9">2 Nephi 25:9</a></blockquote>
Nephi prophesies that in another 600 years or so, the evil Jews will reject and crucify Jesus because of their hard hearts and stiff necks.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
The Father of heaven and of earth, shall manifest himself unto them in the flesh, behold, they will reject him, because of their iniquities, and the hardness of their hearts, and the stiffness of their necks ... They will crucify him. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#12">2 Nephi 25:12-13</a></blockquote>
And woe unto whoever fights against God's church (the Mormons), which will show up in another 2400 years or so.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;Wo unto them that fight against God and the people of his church. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#14">2 Nephi 25:14</a></blockquote>
And, of course, woe unto the the Jews. They'll be scattered among all nations and be scourged by God for many generations until, finally, they are persuaded to believe in Christ.<br />
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Wherefore, the Jews shall be scattered among all nations. ... After they have been scattered, and the Lord God hath scourged them by other nations for ... many generations ... they shall be persuaded to believe in Christ. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#15">2 Nephi 25:15-16</a></blockquote>
Meanwhile, God will inspire Joseph Smith to <strike>write</strike>&nbsp;find and translate the Book of Mormon, which is, as I'm sure you've noticed by now, a marvelous work and a wonder. ("A Marvelous work and a wonder" is LDS-speak for the Book of Mormon.)<br />
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The Lord ... will proceed to do a marvelous work and a wonder. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#17">2 Nephi 25:17</a></blockquote>
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That the promise may be fulfilled unto Joseph [Smith], that his seed should never perish as long as the earth should stand." <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#21">2 Nephi 25:21</a></blockquote>
And now Nephi gets precise about his Christ prophecy: Jesus Christ, the Son of God, will be born 600 years after Nephi's dad (Lehi) left Jerusalem.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
According to the words of the prophets, the Messiah cometh in six hundred years from the time that my father left Jerusalem ... his name shall be Jesus Christ, the Son of God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#19">2 Nephi 25:19</a></blockquote>
Nephi reminds us about some of the plain and wonderful things that are found in the Hebrew scriptures: &nbsp;the fiery serpents (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/21.html#6">Num. 21:6-9</a>) and the water-bearing rock (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/17.html#6">Ex.17:6</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/20.html#11">Num.20:11</a>)..<br />
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I have spoken plainly that ... the Lord God ... gave unto Moses power that he should heal the nations after they had been bitten by the poisonous serpents, if they would cast their eyes unto the serpent which he did raise up before them, and also gave him power that he should smite the rock and the water should come forth. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#20">2 Nephi 25:20</a></blockquote>
And the rest of his prophecy is all about Jesus H. Christ. There's no other name that can get you saved. <br />
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There is none other name given under heaven save it be this Jesus Christ, of which I have spoken, whereby man can be saved. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#20">2 Nephi 25:20</a></blockquote>
So believe in Christ.<br />
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We labor diligently to write, to persuade our children, and also our brethren, to believe in Christ. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#23">2 Nephi 25:23</a></blockquote>
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We believe in Christ. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#24">2 Nephi 25:24a</a>&nbsp;</blockquote>
Look forward to Christ.<br />
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Look forward with steadfastness unto Christ. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#24">2 Nephi 25:24b</a>&nbsp;</blockquote>
Be alive in Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We are made alive in Christ because of our faith. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#25">2 Nephi 25:25a</a></blockquote>
Talk of Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We talk of Christ.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#26">2 Nephi 25:26b</a></blockquote>
Rejoice in Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We rejoice in Christ.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#26">2 Nephi 25:26c</a></blockquote>
Preach of Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We preach of Christ.&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#26">2 Nephi 25:26d</a></blockquote>
Prophesy of Christ.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We prophesy of Christ. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#26">2 Nephi 25:26e</a></blockquote>
The Nephites did all these Christian things six centuries before Christianity existed.<br />
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So don't let anyone tell you Mormons aren't Christians.<br />
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		<title>Bill Maher on Mormonism: I&#8217;m very sorry if I called your horseshit bullshit.</title>
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		<title>Jon Stewart&#8217;s only fear: Religion</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon Stewart isn't afraid to criticize people for their nasty beliefs -- unless the source of those beliefs is religion. Then, whatever it is, it's OK with him.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Jon Stewart isn't afraid to criticize people for their nasty beliefs -- unless the source of those beliefs is religion. Then, whatever it is, it's OK with him.<br />
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Here's how he put it on last night's show:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">You can't cherry pick the worst aspects of a religion and then hold every member of that religion solely responsible for it.&nbsp;</blockquote>Yes, you can. That is exactly what we should do.<br />
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We should hold Mormons responsible for the racism that is found&nbsp;throughout the Book of Mormon; Jews, for the cruel and intolerant passages in the Hebrew Scriptures;&nbsp;Christians,&nbsp;for the nasty bullshit in both of their testaments; and Muslims, for the entire hodgepodge of hateful horseshit that is the Quran.<br />
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The individual members of a religion are not <i>solely</i> responsible for the worst aspects of their religion. But they <i>are</i> responsible for believing it.<br />
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And we should hold them responsible for every rotten cherry on their religion's tree. If they don't like the cherries, they should pick another tree.<br />
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Here's the Daily Show video.<br />
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		<title>Dan Savage is right about the Bible: It&#8217;s Bullshit</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple weeks ago, Dan Savage discussed the Bible with a group of journalism students.

Here is what he said (see video below) -- along with some of the bullshit from the Bible that believers ignore while pretending to believe it.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[A couple weeks ago, Dan Savage discussed the Bible with a group of journalism students.<br />
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Here is what he said (see video below) -- along with some of the bullshit from the Bible that believers ignore while pretending to believe it.<br />
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<i>The Bible, we’ll just talk about the Bible for a second. People often point out that they can’t help it – they can’t help with the anti-gay bullying, because it says right there in Leviticus, it says right there in Timothy, it says right there in Romans, that being gay is wrong.</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/18.html#22"> Leviticus 18:22</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/20.html#13">Leviticus 20:13</a>&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
The law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind....&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/1.html#9">1 Timothy 1:9-10</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;In the last days ... men will be ... without natural affection. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2tim/3.html#1">2 Timothy 3:1-3</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: &nbsp;And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another ... God gave them over to a reprobate mind ... they which commit such things are worthy of death.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/1.html#26">Romans 1:26-32</a></blockquote>
<i>We can learn to ignore the bullshit in the Bible about gay people. </i>[applause] <i>The same way, the same way we have learned to ignore the bullshit in the Bible about shellfish,</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And all that have not fins and scales in the seas ... shall be an abomination unto you: ... Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/11.html#10">Leviticus 11:10-11</a></blockquote>
&nbsp;<i>about slavery,&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you ... they shall be your possession. And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/25.html#44"> Leviticus 25:44-46</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and ... he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/21.html#20">Exodus 21:20-21</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Servants [slaves], be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/2.html#18">1 Peter 2:18</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
(See <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/says_about/slavery.html">here</a> for more bullshit from the Bible on slavery.)</blockquote>
<i>about dinner,&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
These shall ye not eat ... swine ... it is unclean unto you. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/14.html#7">Deuteronomy 14:7-8</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/14.html#21">Romans 14:21</a></blockquote>
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And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/4.html#12">Ezekiel 4:12</a></blockquote>
<i>about farming,</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Thou shalt not plow with an ox and an ass together.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/22.html#10">&nbsp;Deuteronomy 22:10</a></blockquote>
<i>about menstruation,&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/15.html#19">Leviticus 15:19-30</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, and hath not ... come near to a menstruous woman..... <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/18.html#5">Ezekiel 18:5-6</a></blockquote>
<i>about virginity,&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;&nbsp;Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/22.html#28">Deuteronomy 22:28-29</a></blockquote>
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Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/25.html#1">Matthew 25:1</a></blockquote>
<i>about masturbation.&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother. And the thing which he did displeased the LORD: wherefore he slew him also. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/38.html#9">Genesis 38:9-10</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If any man's seed of copulation go out from him, then he shall ... be unclean. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/15.html#16">Leviticus 15:16</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#28">Matthew 5:28-30</a></blockquote>
[applause]<br />
<i>We ignore bullshit in the Bible about all sorts of things. The Bible is a radically pro-slavery document. Slave owners waved Bibles over their heads during the Civil War and justified it. The shortest book in the New Testament is a letter from Paul to a Christian slave owner about owning his Christian slave.&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/philem/1.html">Philemon</a>: This short letter was written by Paul to his slave-owner friend and fellow believer, Philemon. Paul was writing about Onesimus, who he had recently converted, and who happened to also be a runaway slave belonging to Philemon. Since Paul was in a position of authority among believers, this would have been a great opportunity for him (and God) to condemn slavery -- if he (and God) had anything against it, that is. But apparently he didn't. Instead he returned the slave to his owner without so much as a word against the institution of slavery.&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
(Note: Philemon isn't quite "the shortest book in the New Testament" -- 2 and 3 John are a bit shorter.)&nbsp;</blockquote>
<i>And Paul doesn’t say “Christians don’t own people.” Paul talks about how Christians own people.</i><br />
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<i>We ignore what the Bible says about slavery, because the Bible got slavery wrong. Tim — ah, Sam Harris, in A Letter To A Christian Nation, points out that the Bible got the easiest moral question that humanity has ever faced wrong. Slavery! What’re the odds that the Bible got something as complicated as human sexuality wrong? 100% percent.</i><br />
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<i>The Bible says that if your daughter’s not a virgin on her wedding night – if a woman isn’t a virgin on her wedding night, she shall be dragged to her father’s doorstep and stoned to death.&nbsp;</i><br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her ...&nbsp;And say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid:&nbsp;Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate:&nbsp;And ... say ... these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. ...&nbsp;But if ... the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel, then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die. Deuteronomy <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/22.html#13">22:13-17</a></blockquote>
<i>Callista Gingrich lives. </i>[applause]<i> And there is no effort to amend state constitutions to make it legal to stone women to death on their wedding night if they’re not virgins. At least not yet. We don’t know where the GOP is going these days. </i>[audience laughs]<br />
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<i>People are dying because people can’t clear this one last hurdle. They can’t get past this one last thing in the Bible about homosexuality.</i><br />
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<i>One other thing I wanna talk about is —</i> [chuckles]<i> — so, you can tell the Bible guys in the hall that they can come back now, because I’m done beating up the Bible. </i>[applause]<br />
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<i>It’s funny, as someone who’s on the receiving end of beatings that are justified by the Bible, how pansy-assed some people react when you push back.</i> [applause]<br />
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And here's a great video on the subject by Zinnia Jones.<br />
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		<title>A Perfect Case for Biblical Justice:  Thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When reading God's commandment in&#160;Deuteronomy 25:11-12, have you ever wondered if such a punishment is really necessary?

Here's the passage.
When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husban...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[When reading God's commandment in&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/25.html#11">Deuteronomy 25:11-12</a>, have you ever wondered if such a punishment is really necessary?<br />
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Here's the passage.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draweth near for to deliver her husband out of the hand of him that smiteth him, and putteth forth her hand, and taketh him by the secrets:&nbsp;Then thou shalt cut off her hand, thine eye shall not pity her.</blockquote>Well, wonder no more.<br />
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<a href="http://chinanews24.net/2012/04/woman-kills-man-by-squeezing-his-testicles-over-parking-dispute/">China News 24 reports</a> that a woman came to the assistance of her husband in a fight by grabbing the other man's testicles. She squeezed them so hard, in fact, that the man died.<br />
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Now, thanks to the Bible, we know what to do with her.<br />
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		<title>The Book of Job</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<title>Mitt Romney: The Ryan budget is a marvelous work and a wonder</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, President Obama made fun of Mitt Romney for describing Paul Ryan's budget as "marvelous" by saying,

Marvelous is a word you don't often hear when it comes to describing a budget. It's a word that you don't often hear generally.
Which ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[A few weeks ago, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tnp2Wa3AFRc">President Obama made fun of Mitt Romney</a> for describing Paul Ryan's budget as "marvelous" by saying,<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Marvelous is a word you don't often hear when it comes to describing a budget. It's a word that you don't often hear generally.</blockquote>
Which is true, generally, unless you're a Mormon.<br />
<br />
Mormons love the word "marvelous." It was one of Joseph Smith's favorite words. He used it <a href="http://www.lds.org/scriptures/search?lang=eng&amp;type=verse&amp;query=marvelous">50</a>&nbsp;times in the book of Mormon, compared to the <a href="http://www.blueletterbible.org/search/translationResults.cfm?Criteria=marvellous&amp;t=KJV&amp;sf=5">24</a>&nbsp;times it is found in the King James Version of the Bible. And since the Bible is nearly five times as big as the Book of Mormon, the Book of Mormon is about ten times as "marvelous" as the Bible.<br />
<br />
Here's a table to summarize the marvelousness of these two&nbsp;marvelous books.<br />
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<table cellspacing="10"><tbody>
<tr> <th></th> <th>Bible</th> <th>Book of Mormon</th> </tr>
<tr> <th>Marvelous</th> <td align="center">24</td> <td align="center">50</td> </tr>
<tr><th>number of verses</th> <td align="center">31,102</td> <td align="center">6553</td> </tr>
<tr> <th>Occurrences per 10,000 verses </th> <td align="center">7.7</td> <td align="center">76.3</td> </tr>
</tbody></table>
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But one of the phrases that Joseph Smith loved the most was "a marvelous work and a wonder." He used it to describe his own work, the Book of Mormon, and Mormons have used it as a code name for their sacred text ever since.<br />
<br />
Here is how the phrase is used in Mitt Romney's third favorite book. (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwGoYVSZM0">His favorite book is either Battlefield Earth or the Bible</a>.)  <br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And the Lord will set his hand again the second time to restore his people from their lost and fallen state. Wherefore, he will proceed to do a marvelous work and a wonder among the children of men. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html#17">2 Nephi 25:17</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Therefore, I will proceed to do a marvelous work among this people, yea, a marvelous work and a wonder, for the wisdom of their wise and learned shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent shall be hid.<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/27.html#26">2 Nephi 27:26</a></blockquote>
So when Romney called the Ryan budget "marvelous," he was using a word that is often heard in Mormondom. I suspect that if<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57408318-503544/ann-romney-well-have-to-unzip-the-real-mitt/"> Romney was fully unzipped</a>, he would say it is "a marvelous work and a wonder" just like the Book of Mormon.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-8493356477900698726?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>The Book of Mormon: The whiter the skin, the closer to God</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2012 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim Giago, the founder of the Native American Journalist Association, has an excellent article with this title at the Huffington Post. It inspired me to find the verses in the Book of Mormon that mention skin color.

Here's what I found. Let me know if...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Tim Giago, the founder of the Native American Journalist Association, has <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tim-giago/the-book-of-mormon-the-wh_1_b_1445534.html">an excellent article</a> with this title at the Huffington Post. It inspired me to find the verses in the Book of Mormon that mention skin color.<br />
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Here's what I found. Let me know if I missed any.<br />
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Mary (Jesus's mother) was exceedingly fair and white.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And it came to pass that I looked and beheld the great city of Jerusalem, and also other cities. And I beheld the city of Nazareth; and in the city of Nazareth I beheld a virgin, and she was exceedingly fair and white. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/11.html#13">1 Nephi 11:13</a></blockquote>
Jesus, of course, was as white as his mom, as were his&nbsp;disciples. Indeed, after they were blessed by Jesus, the disciples became whiter than anything else on earth -- as white as Jesus even!<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
It came to pass that Jesus blessed them as they did pray unto him; and his countenance did smile upon them, and the light of his countenance did shine upon them, and behold they were as white as the countenance and also the garments of Jesus; and behold the whiteness thereof did exceed all the whiteness, yea, even<b> </b>there could be nothing upon earth so white as the whiteness thereof. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/3ne/19.html#25">3 Nephi 19:25</a></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And when Jesus had spoken these words he came again unto his disciples; and behold they did pray steadfastly, without ceasing, unto him; and he did smile upon them again; and behold they were white, even as Jesus<b>.</b> &nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/3ne/19.html#30">3 Nephi 19:30</a></blockquote>
The Nephites (God's favorite people) were also white and exceedingly delightsome.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
It came to pass that the people of Nephi did wax strong, and did multiply exceedingly fast, and became an exceedingly fair and delightsome people. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/4ne/1.html">4 Nephi 10</a></blockquote>
Even the Gentiles (white, non-Mormon Protestants in Mormon-speak) were exceedingly fair and beautiful.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;And I beheld the Spirit of the Lord, that it was upon the Gentiles, and they did prosper and obtain the land for their inheritance; and I beheld that they were white, and exceedingly fair and beautiful, like unto my people before they were slain. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/13.html#15">1 Nephi 13:15</a></blockquote>
But the Lamanites (or Native Americans) were not. They were once "a delightsome people," but God made them a dark-skinned, "filthy and loathsome people, led about by Satan" because of their unbelief and idolatry.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
This people ... shall become a dark, a filthy, and a loathsome people ... because of their unbelief and idolatry. ... They were once a delightsome people ... But now, behold, they are led about by Satan. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mormon/5.html#15">Mormon 5:15-18</a></blockquote>
Still, there is some hope for Native Americans. If they convert to Mormonism,&nbsp;their skins will turn white, and they will become a "delightsome." (The original "white" in this verse <a href="http://www.irr.org/mit/bom/1830bom-p117.html">was later changed</a> to "pure" to soften the obvious racism of this prophecy.)<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
And then shall they rejoice; for they shall know that it is a blessing unto them from the hand of God; and their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a pure and delightsome people. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/30.html#6">2 Nephi 30:6</a></blockquote>
It happened before. God removed his curse from the "good" Lamanites (the ones that "united with the Nephites"), and they "became exceedingly fair, with skins "white like unto the Nephites."<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
It came to pass that those Lamanites who had united with the Nephites were numbered among the Nephites;&nbsp;And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites;&nbsp;And their young men and their daughters became exceedingly fair, and they were numbered among the Nephites. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/3ne/2.html#14">3 Nephi 2:14</a></blockquote>
And it can happen to you, too. If you turn to God and become Mormon, God will make your skin spotless, pure, fair, and white.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
O then ye unbelieving, turn ye unto the Lord; cry mightily unto the Father in the name of Jesus, that perhaps ye may be found spotless, pure, fair, and white. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mormon/9.html#6">Mormon 9:6</a></blockquote>
So there you have it. According to the Book of Mormon, the whiter the skin, the closer to God.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-249391421381605550?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>A Green Bible Verse for Earth Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2012 21:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Here is a verse that is marked green in the world's most dishonest book -- The Green Bible.    
Therefore thus says the Lord God: My anger and my wrath shall be poured out on this place, on human beings and animals, on the trees of...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Repost for Earth Day<br />
<hr />Here is a verse that is marked green in the world's most dishonest book -- <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2008/12/green-bible-excerise-in-dishonesty.html" title="The Green Bible: An exercise in dishonesty">The Green Bible</a>. <img align="right" border="0" hspace="30" vspace="30" src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/images/green_bible.jpg" />   <br />
<blockquote><span style="color: green;">Therefore thus says the Lord God: My anger and my wrath shall be poured out on this place, on human beings and animals, on the trees of the field and the fruit of the ground; it will burn and not be quenched. </span><a href="http://buscarenlabiblia.com/en/verse/nrsv/24/7/20/">Jeremiah 7:20, The Green Bible</a></blockquote>I have no idea why it's marked green, except that the words "animals", "trees", and "fruit" are in it.   <br />
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And yet when you read <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jer/7.html">chapter 7 of Jeremiah</a>, the meaning of this verse is clear enough: God's wrath will be poured out on the environment to punish humans for worshiping incorrectly.   <br />
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There are no green Bible verses. There are only verses dishonestly marked green in the Green Bible.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-2680669438884752831?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Martin Basher: Book of Mormon condemns Mitt Romney to hell</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mitt Romney is going to hell, if the Book of Mormon is true, that is.

Martin Basher pointed this out on his MSNBC show by exposing a few of Mitt's more recent lies and quoting from Mormon scripture.

The first quote is from the Doctrine and Covenants....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Mitt Romney is going to hell, if the Book of Mormon is true, that is.<br />
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Martin Basher pointed this out on his MSNBC show by exposing a few of Mitt's more recent lies and quoting from Mormon scripture.<br />
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The first quote is from the Doctrine and Covenants. <br />
(Mislabeled in the video as "Book of Mormon" -- The Doctrine and Covenants is a part of LDS scripture but it is not in the Book of Mormon.)<br />
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All liars, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie, and the whoremonger and the sorcerer, shall have their part in that lake which burneth with fire and brimstone which is the second death. <a href="http://classic.scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/63/17b">Doctrine and Covenants 63:17</a></blockquote>
The second is from 2 Nephi. (9:34, not 2:34 as said in the video)<br />
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Wo unto the liar for he shall be thrust down to hell. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/9.html#34">2 Nephi 9:34</a></blockquote>
Here's the video.<br />
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		<title>Achieving a Celestial Marriage: What Mitt and Ann Romney believe about God, marriage, and  working moms</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does Mitt Romney believe about working mothers?



Well, as with most things Mitt Romney says, it depends on when you ask. Lately he says &#160;that "all moms are working moms"; a few months ago he said that "even if you have a child two years of ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[What does Mitt Romney believe about working mothers?<br />
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Well, as with most things Mitt Romney says, it depends on when you ask. <a href="http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2012/04/mitt-romney-says-all-moms-are-working-moms-but-mothers-welfare-need-work/xYK3fk18yVKaj2DRO360mI/index.html">Lately he says</a> &nbsp;that "all moms are working moms"; a few months ago <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HFA90DjupI">he said</a> that "even if you have a child two years of age, you need to go to work."&nbsp;But the apparent inconsistency is easily resolved: the first statement referred to wealthy moms (like his wife, Ann) and the latter statement to everyone else.</div>
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So what does Mitt Romney really believe about working moms? To find out, we need to see what the Mormon church teaches about God, marriage, and working mothers.</div>
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Fortunately, it's all laid out in <i><a href="http://www.ldslearning.org/celestial-marriage.pdf">Achieving a Celestial Marriage</a></i>, the LDS Church's official manual for instructing &nbsp;young Mormons about marriage.</div>
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Here are some excerpts. (Emphasis in the original)<br />
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First, about God.</div>
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<b>GOD WAS ONCE A MORTAL MAN</b></blockquote>
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<u>(1-2) He Lived on an Earth Like Our Own</u></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!" Joseph Smith, <i>Teachings</i>, p. 345&nbsp;</blockquote>
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<u>(1-3) He Experienced Conditions&nbsp;Similar&nbsp;to&nbsp;Our&nbsp;Own and Advanced Step by Step</u></blockquote>
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GOD IS NOW AN EXALTED MAN WITH POWERS OF ETERNAL INCREASE</blockquote>
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<u>(1-4) Our Father in Heaven Lives in an Exalted Marriage Relationship</u></blockquote>
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<u>(1-5) We are Literal Children of God, Part of His Family Unit</u></blockquote>
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<u>(1-6) We Lived with Our Heavenly Parents Prior to Coming to Earth</u></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<b>WE ARE GODS IN EMBRYO</b></blockquote>
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<u>(1-7) We Have the Potential to Become like Our Heavenly Parents</u></blockquote>
About Marriage<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<b>&nbsp;EXALTATION IS ATTAINABLE ONLY IN FAMILY UNITS</b></blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<b>ONLY THROUGH CELESTIAL MARRIAGE CAN A PERSON BECOME LIKE GOD</b></blockquote>
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<u>(1-12) The Lord Commands Marriage</u></blockquote>
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<u>(1-13) Exaltation is Based on Celestial Marriage</u></blockquote>
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&nbsp;<i>"No man shall receive the fulness of eternity, of exaltation, alone, no woman shall receive that blessing alone; but man and wife, when they receive the sealing power in the temple of the Lord, if they thereafter keep all the commandments, shall pass on to&nbsp;exaltation, and shall continue and become like the Lord."&nbsp;</i>( Joseph Smith, <i>Doctrines of Salvation</i>, 2:43-44)</blockquote>
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<u>(1-14) "Then Shall They Be Gods, Because They Have No End"</u></blockquote>
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<u>(1-15) Only Resurrected and Glorified Geings May Become Parents of Spirit Offspring</u></blockquote>
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&nbsp;<u>(1-19) Celestial Marriage Makes it Possible for Us to Claim Our Mortal Children in Eternity As Well As to Propagate Ourselves Throughout Eternity</u></blockquote>
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<i>"We will become gods and have jurisdiction over worlds, and they worlds will be peopled by our own offspring."</i> (Joseph Smith, <i>Doctrines of Salvation</i>, 2:43-44, 48)</blockquote>
About Contraception and Birth Control<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
BIRTH CONTROL -- THE CHURCH'S STAND</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
(16-6) Those Who Practice Birth Control Will Reap Disappointment</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
(16-8) The Root Reasons for Birth Control</blockquote>
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"... in most cases the desire not to have children has its birth in vanity, passion, and selfishness."</blockquote>
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(16-10) Unwillingness to Have Children -- an Onslaught Against the Home&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
GOSPEL ANSWERS TO THE POPULATION EXPLOSION PROBLEM</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;"The precepts of men would have you believe that by limiting the population of the world, we can have peace and plenty. That is the doctrine of the devil." (Ezra Taft Benson in <i>CR</i>, Apr. 1969, p. 12</blockquote>
And, finally, about working moms<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
THE WOMAN: WIFE, HELPMEET, AND MOTHER</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
(14-8) Present-Day Allurements Versus the True Responsibilities and Influence of Women</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
"It is of great concern to all who understand this glorious concept that Satan and his cohorts are using scientific arguments and nefarious propaganda to lure women away from their primary responsibilities as wives, mothers, and homemakers. We hear so much about emancipatioon, independence, sexuual liberation, birth control, abortion, and other insidious propaganda belittling the role of motherhood, all of which is Satan's way of destroying woman, the hom, and the famliy -- the basic unit of society. . . ."</blockquote>
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(14-14) It is Seldom Justifiable for Mothers to Work</blockquote>
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"How can mothers justify their abandonmnet of home when they are needed so much by their offspring? Rationalization must take over as they justfy themselves in leaving home and children." Spencer W. Kimball,<i> Faith Precedes the Miracle,</i> pp. 116-17.)</blockquote>
So there you have it. That is what Mitt and Ann Romney believe about working moms. They believe that there shouldn't be any (Except for "working moms" like Ann Romney).<br />
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		<title>Your ziff is safe with Mitt (What the Book of Mormon says about taxes)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Re-post for tax time)

I know Romney doesn't like to talk about his Mormon faith. And it's unconstitutional for us to ask him about it or even think about it. But I just can't help it.   

What does the Book of Mormon say about politics? Taxes, for ex...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[(Re-post for tax time)<br />
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I know Romney doesn't like to talk about his Mormon faith. And <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/12/dont-ask-mitt-about-his-beliefs-its.html">it's unconstitutional</a> for us to ask him about it or even think about it. But I just can't help it.   <br />
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What does the Book of Mormon say about politics? Taxes, for example.  <br />
Well here's a quote from Mitt's second or third favorite book, the Book of Mormon. (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbwGoYVSZM0">His favorite book is either Battlefield Earth or the Bible</a>.)  <br />
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And now it came to pass [<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/06/and-it-came-to-pass.html">things often come to pass in the Book of Mormon</a>] that Zeniff [don't you just love Book of Mormon names?] conferred the kingdom upon Noah, one of his sons; therefore Noah began to reign in his stead; and he did not walk in the ways of his father. For behold, he did not keep the commandments of God, but he did walk after the desires of his own heart. And he had many wives and concubines. And he did cause his people to commit sin, and do that which was abominable in the sight of the Lord. Yea, and they did commit whoredoms and all manner of wickedness. And he laid a tax of one fifth part of all they possessed, a fifth part of their gold and of their silver, and <b>a fifth part of their ziff</b>, and of their copper, and of their brass and their iron; and a fifth part of their fatlings; and also a fifth part of all their grain. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mosiah/11.html#1">Mosiah 11:1-3</a></blockquote>
So King Noah was a bad guy (everyone in the Book of Mormon is either a good guy or a bad guy) who didn't keep God's commandments, had lots of wives (like Joseph Smith), and did all kinds of abominable things in front of God and everybody (also like Joseph Smith). And this bad king taxed the people 20% of all their gold, silver, copper, brass, iron, fatlings, and grain. Oh, and on their ziff, too.  <br />
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Now only a bad king would put a 20% flat tax on everything, including ziff.   <br />
<a href="http://www.latterdayconservative.com/blog/the-book-of-mormon-has-a-dim-view-of-taxation/">The point of these verses</a> (if there is a point) is that taxes are evil and a flat tax of 20% is especially evil. Just what the heck ziff might be is another matter entirely.  <br />
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Mormon apologists admit that they don't really know what ziff was, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ziff_(Book_of_Mormon)">but they say it might have been some type of metal.</a> But I doubt it.   <br />
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I bet it was beer.   <br />
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		<title>Book of Mormon Action Figures: Before and After the Curse of Blackness</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2012 16:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite items: Book of Mormon Action Figures.&#160;(They're even better than those from My Dinner with Andre.)



Here, for example, is Laman, before and after God darkened his skin.




But in order to really appre...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is, without a doubt, one of my favorite items: Book of Mormon Action Figures.&nbsp;(They're even better than those from <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WwZkbAvBtk">My Dinner with Andre</a>.)<br />
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Here, for example, is Laman, before and after God darkened his skin.</div>
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<a href="http://lehi.com/index.php?cPath=22&amp;osCsid=tnpckvir5j5pnqguo9jviobmt6" title="Latter Day Designs"><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/laman-both.jpg" /></a><br />
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But in order to really appreciate them, you need to know something about Laman and his descendants (the Native Americans), as told in the Book of Mormon.<br />
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<li>"Laman and (his evil brother) Lemuel ... were like unto the Jews."&nbsp;&nbsp;(Being like a Jew is about as bad as it gets in the Book of Mormon.) <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/1ne/2.html#11">1 Nephi 2:11-13</a><br />
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<li>Laman &nbsp;was "white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome" before the curse, but God caused "a skin of blackness" to come upon him for disobeying his older brother Nephi.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/5.html#21">2 Nephi 5:21</a></li>
<li>God also cursed the Lamanites &nbsp;(Laman's descendants) causing their skin to turn dark and making them "loathsome" to His people (the Nephites). <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/5.html#22">2 Nephi 5:22</a>,<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/3.html#8">&nbsp;Alma 3:8</a><br />
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<li>God forbids intermarriage between the Nephites and Lamanites. Those who mix seed with the Lamanites will be cursed by God with "the same cursing". (Their skin will be blackened.)&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/5.html#23">2 Nephi 5:23</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/3.html#9">Alma 3:9</a><br />
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<li>God's curse on the Lamanites caused them to become a sinful, polluted, filthy, idle, ferocious, bloodthirsty, and loathsome people, who delighted in murdereing, robbing, and plundering. God cursed them because of what their fathers did. &nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/5.html#24">2 Nephi 5:24</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/17.html#14">Alma 17:14-15</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/26.html#24">26:24</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/jacob/3.html#5">Jacob 3:5</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/enos/1.html#20">Enos 1:20</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mosiah/10.html#12">Mosiah 10:12</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mosiah/25.html#11">25:11</a><br />
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<li>If you don't repent, God will make your skin even darker than that of the Lamanites. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/jacob/3.html#8">Jacob 3:8</a><br />
</li>
<li>The Lamanites "loved murder and would drink the blood of beasts." <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/jarom/1.html#6">Jarom 1:6</a><br />
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<li>The Lamanites shaved their heads and ran around naked. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mosiah/10.html#8">Mosiah 10:8</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/3.html#5">Alma 3:5-6</a>,&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/43.html#37">43:37</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/43.html#37">44:17</a><br />
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<li>God loved the Nephites, but hated the Lamanites "because of the iniquity of the tradition of their fathers."<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/hel/15.html#3"> Helaman 15:3-4</a></li>
<li>God removed his curse from the "good" Lamanites (the ones that "united with the Nephites"), and they "became exceedingly fair, with skins "white like unto the Nephites." <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/3ne/2.html#14">3 Nephi 2:14-16</a><br />
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<li>"The Lamanites ... did teach their children that they should not believe."<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/4ne/1.html#38"> 4 Nephi 38</a><br />
</li>
<li>The Lamanites (or Native Americans) were once "a delightsome people", but God made them a dark-skinned, "filthy and loathsome people, led about by Satan" because of their unbelief and idolatry. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/mormon/5.html#15">Mormon 5:15-18</a></li>
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I wonder if Mitt Romney loves these action figures as much a I do.</div><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-8157226283092512783?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Happy Jesus-in-Hell Day!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was a believer, I was always puzzled by the phrase "He descended into hell" in the Apostles' Creed. It just seemed strange to me. What was a nice guy like Jesus doing in a place like that?

But I guess Jesus did some time in hell; it says so rig...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[When I was a believer, I was always puzzled by the phrase "He descended into hell" in the Apostles' Creed. It just seemed strange to me. What was a nice guy like Jesus doing in a place like that?<br />
<br />
But I guess Jesus did some time in hell; it says so right in the Bible.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that <b>his soul was not left in hell</b>, neither his flesh did see corruption. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/2.html#31">Acts 2:31</a></blockquote>Luckily he took some really cool pictures.<br />
(Thanks to <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/ZJemptv">Zinnia Jones</a> for reminding me of Jesus' weekend in hell.)<br />
<br />
Here's a black and white photo of a very tall Jesus meeting Adam and Eve as they come out of their demon-mouth house.<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/jesus_in_hell_7.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
And here's one, on Saturday night, after Jesus put on his transparent robe.<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/jesus_in_hell_6.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
Jesus, in a hurry to meet the ladies of hell.<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/jesus_in_hell_5.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
Another photo of Jesus hanging out with Adam and Eve.<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/jesus_in_hell_4.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
The sermon from hell.<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/jesus_in_hell_3.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
And here's Jesus Sunday morning before heading back to the tomb.<br />
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		<title>Bad Friday: Greater evil hath no man than this, that he is willing to kill his own son (for any fucking reason).</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[

The three "great" Abrahamic faiths trace their origin to Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son to God. Jews and Christians believe the story told in Genesis 22, in which God tells Abraham to kill his son, Isaac, for him.

God ... said, Take now ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/images/sacrifice.jpg" width="480" /><br />
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The three "great" Abrahamic faiths trace their origin to Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son to God. Jews and Christians believe the story told in Genesis 22, in which God tells Abraham to kill his son, Isaac, for him.<br />
<blockquote>
God ... said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and .. and offer him there for a burnt offering. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/22.html">Genesis 22:1</a>)</blockquote>
(Actually God was wrong about the "only son" thing, because Abraham, at the time, had two sons, not one.<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/21.html#10"> Abraham had already abandoned</a> his first son, Ishmael, and his mother, Hagar -- with God's consent and blessing. So I guess Isaac was Abraham's only son, at least as far as he and God were concerned.)<br />
<br />
God didn't make Abraham do the evil deed, though, substituting a ram instead at the last minute. But it was Abraham's willingness to do it that impressed God so much. Abraham passed the test because he was was willing to kill his son for God.<br />
<br />
For his willingness to do the greatest evil any father could ever do, God blessed Abraham and made him the father of all believers.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son ...&nbsp;I will bless thee ...&nbsp;And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/22.html#16">Genesis 22:16</a></blockquote>
Muslims also honor Abraham for his willingness to slaughter his son, but they believe it was a different son. They believe it was Ishmael, not Isaac, that God told Abraham to kill.<br />
<br />
<br />
<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/abe_ishmael.jpg" width="480" /><br />
<br />
Here's the story from the Quran:<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
When (his son) was old enough to walk with him, (Abraham) said: O my dear son, I have seen in a dream that I must sacrifice thee. So look, what thinkest thou ? He said: O my father! Do that which thou art commanded. Allah willing, thou shalt find me of the steadfast. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/37/index.htm#102">Quran 37:102</a></blockquote>
(Notice, though, that the Quran doesn't actually name the son, so <a href="http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Contrad/MusTrad/sacrifice.html">maybe a Muslim could believe that Isaac was the intended victim</a>.)<br />
<br />
The important thing, though, is this: Abraham was willing to kill his own son for God, and God rewarded him for it.<br />
<br />
And then, of course, there's Jesus.<br />
<br />
God supposedly tested himself, just like he did Abraham, only this time he went through with it. He killed his own son for some god-awful reason. I guess it was to keep himself from torturing others for stuff they didn't &nbsp;do or didn't believe. Or something like that.<br />
<br />
Believers call it Good Friday.<br />
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		<title>Romney: The Book of Mormon is an attack on all religions</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, that's not a direct quote.

Here's what Mitt actually said: (see video below)

We are now all Catholics. Those of us who are people of faith recognize this is — an attack on one religion is an attack on all religion.
But if what he said is true, ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[OK, that's not a direct quote.<br />
<br />
Here's what Mitt actually said: (see video below)<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
We are now all Catholics. Those of us who are people of faith recognize this is — an attack on one religion is an attack on all religion.</blockquote>
But if what he said is true, then the Book of Mormon is an attack on all religions.<br />
<br />
Take the Catholic church for example.<br />
<br />
The Book of Mormon says that the Catholic church is is an abominable church founded by the devil to lead souls to hell. It is more abominable that all other churches (and they are all abominable, too). It is the mother of all abominations, the whore of Babylon, and the mother of harlots. It has taken away the plain and precious parts of the gospel and perverted the ways of the Lord. The wrath of God is poured out upon it, and someday God will force Catholics to get drunk on their own blood. Only those who join the Mormon church in its fight against Catholics will be saved.<br />
<br />
Now you probably think that I'm exaggerating a bit. But I'm not. Here are just <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/says_about/catholics.html">some of the verses</a> from the Book of Mormon that refer to the Catholic church.<br />
<dl><dd>I beheld this great and abominable church; and I saw the devil that he was the founder of it. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/13.html#6">1 Nephi 13:6</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>A great and abominable church, which is most abominable above all other churches; for behold, they  have taken away from the gospel of the Lamb many parts which are plain and most precious;  and also many covenants of the Lord have they taken away. And all this have they done that they might&nbsp;pervert the right ways of the Lord, that they might blind the eyes and harden the hearts of the children of men. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/13.html#26">1 Nephi 13:26-27</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>After the book hath gone forth&nbsp;through the hands of the great and abominable church, that there are many plain and&nbsp;precious things taken away from the book. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/13.html#28">1 Nephi 13:28</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>The plain and most precious parts of the gospel of the&nbsp;Lamb which have been kept back by that abominable church. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/13.html#32">1 Nephi 13:32</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>That great and&nbsp;abominable church, which was founded by the devil and his children, that he might lead away the souls of men down to hell. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/14.html#3">1 Nephi 14:3</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>That great and abominable church, which is the mother of abominations, whose founder is the devil. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/14.html#9">1 Nephi 14:9</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>The wrath of God was poured out upon that great and abominable church. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/14.html#15">1 Nephi 14:15</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>The wrath of God is poured out upon the&nbsp;mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose&nbsp;founder is the devil. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/14.html#17">1 Nephi 14:17</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>And the blood of that great and abominable church, which is the whore of all the earth, shall turn  upon their own heads; for they shall war among themselves, and the sword of their own hands shall fall upon their own&nbsp;heads, and they shall be drunken with their own blood. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/22.html#13">1 Nephi 22:13</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>That great whore, who hath perverted the right ways of the Lord, yea, that&nbsp;great and abominable church, shall tumble to the dust and great shall be the fall of it. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/1ne/22.html#14">1 Nephi 22:14</a>    <br />
<br /></dd><dd>They shall repent and fight not against Zion, and do not unite themselves to&nbsp;that great and abominable church, they shall be saved. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/2ne/6.html#12">2 Nephi 6:12</a>  </dd></dl>
So if we are all Catholics now, then the Book of Mormon is an attack on us all. <br />
(And don't even get the Book of Mormon started on <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/says_about/jews.html">Jews</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/says_about/gentiles.html">non-Mormon Protestants</a>, or <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/says_about/unbelievers.html">unbelievers</a>.)<br />
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		<title>Sam Harris on Free Will</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven't had time to read the book (it's only 60 pages or so), then you probably won't have time to watch this lecture either. 

But you should do one or the other. Your choice.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[If you haven't had time to read the book (it's only 60 pages or so), then you probably won't have time to watch this lecture either. <br />
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But you should do one or the other. Your choice.<br />
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		<title>Richard Dawkins and Michael Aus discuss the Clergy Project</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The morning after the Reason Rally, Michael Aus was on the Chris Hayes Show, where he first came out as a non-believing Christian minister. Here is another interview, this time with Richard Dawkins.

Here's an excerpt.

Dawkins: What first led to those...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2012/03/up-with-chris-hayes-morning-after.html">The morning after the Reason Rally</a>, Michael Aus was on the Chris Hayes Show, where he first came out as a non-believing Christian minister. Here is another interview, this time with Richard Dawkins.<br />
<br />
Here's an excerpt.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Dawkins: What first led to those doubts?&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Aus: What really first started it was actually paying attention to the Bible.&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Dawkins: I'm not surprised.&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Aus: Yeah, it seems silly that you work with the Lectionary week in and week out, teach Bible studies, and you start to see the inconsistencies, the fabrications, and the fascinating thing about this to me is that you don't have to be a Bible scholar to see this stuff.&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Dawkins: It's not just the fabrications, it's the sheer unpleasantness.&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Aus: Unpleasantness. It's brutal. The genocides, the slaughters, the oppression of women, the support for slavery, it goes on and on. There are a few gems of wisdom in the Bible, but you have to dig to find them.</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Dawkins: Of course, we can always say that that was then and we've moved on. &nbsp;But, of course, we have moved on, and that's the point, istn't it?&nbsp;</blockquote>
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
Aus: Yes, exactly!&nbsp;</blockquote>
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		<title>John Hagee explains how and why the world will end in 2012</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[John Hagee explains it all in less that 20 minutes. (See video below.)

The sermon begins with the rhetorical question:

Could 2012 be the end of the world as we know it?
The rest of the sermon provides Hagee's answer.

But before getting in to that, P...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[John Hagee explains it all in less that 20 minutes. (See video below.)<br />
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The sermon begins with the rhetorical question:<br />
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Could 2012 be the end of the world as we know it?</blockquote>
The rest of the sermon provides Hagee's answer.<br />
<br />
But before getting in to that, Pastor Hagee tells us what "God's point of view" is with respect to homosexuals. (God wants us to kill them.)<br />
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The word homosexual does not appear in the Bible, but the concept is clearly expressed by Moses in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/20.html#13">Leviticus 20:13</a>, it says, "If a man lies with another man as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed abomination. They shall surely be put to death." That's God's point of view.</blockquote>
And that he's "thrilled out of his ever-loving mind" that he'll soon be raptured before the Antichrist shows up.<br />
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I gladly tell you that I am a born again, Bible-believing Christian and I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And I am thrilled out of my ever-loving mind that when the trumpet of God sounds, I'm out of here before the Antichrist shows up with hell incorporated.</blockquote>
With that out of the way, he begins to fly through the book of Revelation, telling us about the monstrous ecological things that God will do to our planet in the coming months.<br />
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I'm going to fly through the chapters of the book of Revelation like a speeding bullet. In the Book of Revelation there are seven seals, seven trumpets, and seven vials. Twenty-one monstrous ecological things that happen to literally devastate the planet Earth.</blockquote>
God will start things off by burning up 1/3 of the Earth's vegetation. (Hagee believes in global warming, but it's not human-caused, it's God-caused.)<br />
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One-third of the vegetation of the Earth is burned up (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/8.html#7">Revelation 8:7</a>).</blockquote>
Then hordes of horse-sized locusts will sting people, torturing them for five months, and making them wish they were dead. (But the God of love won't let them die.)<br />
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The gates of hell are opened and&nbsp;hordes&nbsp;of locusts, the Bible says, the size of a horse&nbsp;will come up out of the bottomless pit and sting men like a scorpion. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/9.html#2">Rev 9:2-6</a>) The pain will last for five months. And men will beg God to let them die. But they cannot find death, the Bible says that.</blockquote>
After that, there'll be a bloody war, where, <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/great-winepress-of-wrath-of-god.html">according to my calculation</a>, about 24 trillion people will be killed.<br />
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A world war so bloody that the blood of those killed in battle will flow for 200 miles to the bridles of a horse. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/14.html#20">Rev 14:20</a>)</blockquote>
God will cover any survivors with boils from head to toe.<br />
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Every person on earth who has taken the mark of the beast in his right hand or forehead will be covered from head to feet with running boils. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/16.html#2">Rev 16:2</a>)</blockquote>
Then he'll turn the sea into blood.<br />
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The seven seas of the earth will turn to blood. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/16.html#3">Rev 16:3-4</a>)</blockquote>
And send an world-wide earthquake that will level mountains and sink islands.<br />
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Now you have the Bible describe a world-wide earthquake so monstrous that the mountains of the world are leveled, and that the islands of the sea disappear. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/16.html#18">Rev 16:18-20</a>)</blockquote>
Next God will burn the earth with fire, causing us all to run to the mountains, where we'll chew on our tongues while asking the mountains to fall on us.<br />
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The sun will scorch the Earth with fire, and mighty men, the Bible says, and kings and men of war will gnaw their tongues in pain and they will crawl into the mountains, and the book of Revelation says they will cry to the mountains, "Fall on us and kill us, to hide us from the wrath of the lamb that's on the throne." (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/16.html#8">Rev 16:8-11)</a></blockquote>
Then God will release four angels to kill 1/3 of the human population in a one day. The exact hour for this holy&nbsp;massacre is specified somewhere in Genesis 1, but <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/13.html#32">only God and John Hagee know it</a>.<br />
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I ask you, read <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/9.html#15">Revelation 9:15</a>, it's the sixth trumpet. There are four angels released by God himself to destroy one-third of mankind in one day. The Bible says there is a year, a month, a day, and an hour that God picked out from&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/1.html">Genesis 1</a>. One-third of mankind on that day, by the will and hand of God, will be destroyed.</blockquote>
That's right. God is going to kill 2.3 billion people in a single day later this year. And if you have a hard time believing that, read <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/7.html#4">Genesis 7:4-23</a>.<br />
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You say, I have a hard time believing that. May I refer you to Noah's Flood? Believe it.</blockquote>
Among the dead will be 100 million Americans, one for each aborted fetus, by God and John Hagee's calculation.<br />
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In America we have something over 300 million people. That means 100 million people in 24 hours, gone. I believe that God will require a life for every child killed in abortion clinics in America. I believe that's where the tally is going to be set.</blockquote>
So that's ho the world will end. Here's why it will be in 2012.<br />
<br />
There are three independent pieces of evidence that when taken together are absolutely convincing.<br />
<br />
1. Satellite TV<br />
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So why is it coming now? ... I listened to my father and grandfather sit and discuss the fact that the whole world would see the two witnesses killed on the streets of Jerusalem in one hour. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/11.html#3">Revelation 11:3-12</a>) They thought there was something in the text that was absolutely false because it was not believable. There was no television at that point in time. Television was born, but we still didn't get it. Then&nbsp;satellite television came in and ding, ding, ding, ding, ding -- we got it. This is how Elijah and Enoch are going to be seen in the city of Jerusalem, when the&nbsp;Antichrist&nbsp;is going to be permitted to kill them. They're going to line in the streets of Jerusalem and the world is going to see them at one time over internet television. The world is going to be so happy that there dead. Remember there's nothing on earth at this time but devil-worshiping, Antichrist-following people. They hate these two men of God. The world is going to be so thrilled their dead, thy're going to give gifts to each other like it's Christmas when they die. But three and a half days later they're going to stand to their feet ... and be lifted from the ground, back into the presence of God. And the whole world will watch them --- woooooweee! ... That couldn't happen before satellite television.</blockquote>
2. Nuclear warfare<br />
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And there was another section of verses that my parents couldn't understand, where God said that this is a plague that I will send to those that fight against Israel. That I will cause the flesh to fall from their bones before their body can hit the ground, and their eyes shall &nbsp;melt in their sockets and their tongue in their mouth. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/zech/14.html#12">Zechariah 14:12</a>) There was no way we could understand that. And then came atomic warfare and nuclear warfare.</blockquote>
3. Israel<br />
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And then there's the birth of Israel. ... Every major prophecy in the Old Testament said there would be a day that God would bring Israel back home. ... That happened May the 15, 1948.</blockquote>
There are about twelve other reasons that Pastor Hagee didn't have time to tell us about. But these three are the most convincing and they are sufficient.<br />
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It's not rocket science, people. It's all in the Bible.<br />
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There are about twelve of those prophetic signs I don't have time to give you, but you don't have to be a rocket scientist or a theologian to understand what I've just said. That's all in the Bible.</blockquote>
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		<title>Up with Chris Hayes: The Morning After the Reason Rally</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Mar 2012 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In this morning's show, Chris Hayes interviewed Pastor Mike Aus, who is one of the growing number of of active clergy who no longer believe in God. There were other interesting segments on the show, and I recommend that you watch it all, but I found th...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[In this morning's show, Chris Hayes interviewed Pastor Mike Aus, who is one <a href="http://clergyproject.com/">of the growing number</a> of of active clergy who no longer believe in God. There were other interesting segments on the show, and I recommend that you watch it all, but I found the interview with Mike Aus especially&nbsp;interesting.<br />
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Here's the part that I liked best. (Begins around 7:10)<br />
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One of the dirty little secrets of Christianity is hardly anyone ever reads the Bible, and I think if they did, the whole thing would be in big trouble.</blockquote>
Amen to that, Pastor Mike.<br />
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		<title>New SAB Category: Politics</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2012 22:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since it's an election year, I thought I'd start a new SAB category: Politics. 

Here's the first verse, used by Senator James Inhofe to prove that human-caused climate change does not exist.

While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold a...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Since it's an election year, I thought I'd start a new <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm">SAB</a> category: <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/politics/long.html">Politics</a>. <br />
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Here's the first verse, <a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/james-inhofe-says-bible-refutes-climate-change">used by Senator James Inhofe</a> to prove that human-caused climate change does not exist.<br />
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While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.  <a href="http://while%20the%20earth%20remaineth,%20seedtime%20and%20harvest,%20and%20cold%20and%20heat,%20and%20summer%20and%20winter,%20and%20day%20and%20night%20shall%20not%20cease./">Genesis 8:22</a></blockquote>
I'll be adding more verses as I come across them, so you'll start to see them now and then in the SAB. Just look for this icon.<br />
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<img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/politics/flag_cross.jpg" /><br />
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And if you notice any that you think should be included, you tell me about it in the comments.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-5226302578099176004?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Help begin the collapse of Catholic morality</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever asked yourself, "What can I do to help begin the collapse of Catholic morality?"

Well, if so, now you have your answer.



Do it now. Do it often. The world depends upon it.

(Via Pharyngula)

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Have you ever asked yourself, "What can I do to help begin the collapse of Catholic morality?"<br />
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Well, if so, now you have your answer.<br />
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Do it now. Do it often. The world depends upon it.<br />
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		<title>Richard Dawkins on absolute morality</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a video of Richard Dawkins' response to a question about absolute morality.



I liked his answer so much that I decided to quote it in full below, along with some&#160;relevant&#160;quotes from the Bible, Quran, and Hadith.

But first, here wa...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is a video of Richard Dawkins' response to a question about absolute morality.<br />
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I liked his answer so much that I decided to quote it in full below, along with some&nbsp;relevant&nbsp;quotes from the Bible, Quran, and Hadith.<br />
<br />
But first, here was the question from Hamsa Koreshi.<br />
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Question: My question is for professor Dawkins. Considering that Atheism cannot possibly have any sense of absolute morality, &nbsp;would it not then be an irrational leap of faith, which atheists themselves so harshly condemn, for an atheist to decide between right and wrong?<br />
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And here is Dawkins' answer:<br />
<br />
The absolute morality that a religious person might profess would include what, stoning people for adultery,<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/20.html#10">Leviticus 20.10</a></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque. <a href="http://www.hadithsahihmuslim.com/page/438">Hadith Sahih Muslim</a></blockquote><div>death for apostasy,</div><blockquote class="tr_bq">If thy brother ... or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods ... Thou shalt not consent unto him ... neither shall thine eye pity him ... But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/13.html#6">Deuteronomy 13.6-10</a></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him." --  Muhammad <a href="http://www.cmje.org/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/084-sbt.php#009.084.057">Sahih al-Bukhari</a></blockquote><div>punishment for breaking the Sabbath?</div><blockquote class="tr_bq">Whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/31.html#14">Exodus 31.14</a></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ex/35.html#2">Exodus 35.2</a></blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">They found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day ... and the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/15.html#32">Numbers 15.32-36</a> &nbsp;</blockquote><blockquote class="tr_bq">Ye know of those of you who broke the Sabbath, how We said unto them: Be ye apes, despised and hated! And We made it an example to their own and to succeeding generations. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/2/index.htm#65">Quran 2.65-66</a></blockquote>These are all things which are religiously-based  absolute moralities. I don't think I want an absolute morality. I think I want a morality that is thought out, reasoned, argued, discussed, and based upon what you could almost call an intelligent design.<br />
<div><br />
</div><div>Can we not design our society in such a way to have the sort of morality that we want to live in? If you actually look at the moralities that are accepted among modern people, among 21st century people: we don't believe in slavery anymore, we believe in the equality of women, we believe in being gentle, we believe in being kind to animals. Theses are all things&nbsp;which&nbsp; are entirely recent. They have very little basis in Biblical or Quranic scripture. They are things that have developed over historical time through a consensus of reasoning, sober discussion, argument, legal theory, political and moral philosophy. They do not come from religion.&nbsp;</div><div><br />
</div><div>To the extent that you can find the good bits in religious scriptures you have to cherry pick. You&nbsp;search&nbsp;your way through the Bible or the Quran and find the occasional verse that is an acceptable&nbsp;profession&nbsp;of morality and we say, "Look at that! That's&nbsp;religion." You leave out all the horrible bits and you say, "Oh, we don't believe that anymore. We've grown out of it."<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">(In the SAB there are <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html">1312 cruel passages</a> vs. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/good/long.html">503 good ones</a>; the corresponding values for the Quran are &nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/cruelty/long.html">531</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/good/long.html">75</a>.)</blockquote></div><div>Well, of course we've grown out of it! We've grown out of it because of secular, moral philosophy &nbsp;and rational discussion.</div><br />
<hr />Check out Dawkins' most recent book,&nbsp;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/The-Magic-Reality-Whats-Really/dp/1439192812/?_encoding=UTF8&amp;tag=skepticsannotate&amp;linkCode=ur2&amp;qid=1332369850&amp;camp=1789&amp;sr=8-3&amp;creative=9325" >The Magic of Reality</a><border ="0" height="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=skepticsannotate&amp;l=ur2&amp;o=1" style="border-bottom-style: none !important; border-color: initial !important; border-image: initial !important; border-left-style: none !important; border-right-style: none !important; border-top-style: none !important; border-width: initial !important; margin-bottom: 0px !important; margin-left: 0px !important; margin-right: 0px !important; margin-top: 0px !important;" width="1" />, a graphic science book written for children 12 and up.<br />
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		<title>2 Nephi 11-24: Padding Isaiah</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Mar 2012 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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But now that it looks like Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee, I'm inspired to return to my efforts to slog&#160;through Mitt's favorite book. (Here's a list of my previous Bl...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I know, I've neglected the Book of Mormon lately. Sorry about that.<br />
<br />
But now that it looks like Mitt Romney will be the Republican nominee, I'm inspired to return to my efforts to slog&nbsp;through Mitt's favorite book. (<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/07/blogging-book-of-mormon.html">Here's a list of my previous Blogging the BoM posts</a> so you catch up on the details.)<br />
<br />
So here goes.<br />
<br />
In <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/10/2-nephi-10-wicked-jews-blessed-gentiles.html">the last episode</a>, we learned that Jews are the most wicked people on earth and that God gave America (his favorite country) to the Mormons.<br />
<br />
In chapter 11, Nephi's little brother, Jacob, continues his preaching, saying "many more things," but, lucky for us, Nephi only wrote down those things that sufficed him.<br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">And now, Jacob spake many more things to my people at that time; nevertheless only these things have I caused to be written, for the things which I have written sufficeth me. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html#1">2 Nephi 11:1</a></span></blockquote>
After sufficing himself with his own words, Nephi decided to throw in another 13 or so chapters from the Book of Isaiah&nbsp;<span style="background-color: #eeeeee; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif; font-size: x-small;">&nbsp;</span>(He's already included four chapters. See <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/1ne/20.html">1 Nephi 20</a>-<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/1ne/21.html">21</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/6.html">2 Nephi 6</a>-<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/8.html">8</a>),&nbsp;because he likes Isaiah so darned much (and he needs to make his little book a little bigger).<br />
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<span style="font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">And now I, Nephi, write more of the words of Isaiah, for my soul delighteth in his words. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html#2">2 Nephi 11:2</a></span></blockquote>
Before doing that, though, Nephi tells us a bit more about Jesus.<br />
If there's no Jesus, there's no God, and if there's no God, there's no creation. But there is a God and his name is Jesus and he'll be coming in his own time (about 570 years after Nephi's words.)<br />
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Behold, my soul delighteth in proving unto my people the truth of the coming of Christ ... And also my soul delighteth in the covenants of the Lord ... yea, my soul delighteth in his grace ... And my soul delighteth in proving unto my people that save Christ should come all men must perish. For if there be no Christ there be no God; and if there be no God we are not, for there could have been no creation. But there is a God, and he is Christ, and he cometh in the fulness of his own time. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html#4">2 Nephi 11:4-7</a></blockquote>
And with that, Nephi writes some words of Isaiah. (13 chapters: <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/12.html">2 Nephi 12</a>-<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/24.html">24</a>)<br />
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And now I write some of the words of Isaiah.&nbsp;<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/11.html">2 Nephi 11:8</a></blockquote>
Which I'm going to skip, since it has nothing to do with Nephi's story. I recommend that you do too.<br />
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See you in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/25.html">Chapter 25</a>.<br />
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		<title>Luke 17:34 and Pray to be Gay Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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Luke 17:34, that is.

I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.&#160;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I don't know how I missed this before, but I did.<br />
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<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/17.html#34">Luke 17:34</a>, that is.<br />
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<b><span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.</span>&nbsp;</b></blockquote>
&nbsp;And since Jesus clearly said that only a small minority would be saved,<br />
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<span class="i" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved?</span><span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">&nbsp;And he said unto them,</span>&nbsp;<span class="i" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">Strive to enter in at the strait gate:</span><span class="c" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">&nbsp;for many</span><span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">, I say unto you,&nbsp;</span><span class="c" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#23">Luke 13:23-24</a></span></blockquote>
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<span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">&nbsp;Enter ye in at the strait gate: for&nbsp;</span><span class="i" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:&nbsp;</span><span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">Because strait is the gate, and&nbsp;</span><span class="i" style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#13"> Matthew 7:13-14</a></span><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#13">&nbsp;</a></blockquote>
the best way to improve your chances of being saved, if you are a man, is to go to bed with another man. (50% is better than a virtually zero chance.)<br />
<br />
Or to spend you time grinding with other women, if you're a woman, as Jesus said in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/17.html#35">Luke 17:35</a>.<br />
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<b><span style="background-color: #fffff8; font-family: Helvetica, Univers, sans-serif;">Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.</span>&nbsp;</b></blockquote>
But what if you're not blessed enough to be gay? It's not too late: Pray to be gay!<br />
<br />
There's even a special day and place for it: Pray to be Gay Day at<a href="http://www.reasonrally.org/"> the Reason Rally</a> on March 24th.<br />
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Watch <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/Thunderf00t?feature=watch">Thunderf00t's</a> video for all the details.<br />
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		<title>What did Muhammad look like?  A detailed description from the Ash-Shifa</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Mar 2012 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a list of interesting facts about the Prophet Muhammad (PB&#38;J be upon him) from&#160;Ash-Shifa:&#160;"The best biography of the Prophet Muhammad in 800 years." Ash-Shifa is highly regarded throughout the Muslim world, where it is said, "If A...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here is a list of interesting facts about the Prophet Muhammad (PB&amp;J be upon him) from&nbsp;<a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000KYCYSC/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=skepticsannotate&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=B000KYCYSC">Ash-Shifa</a>:&nbsp;"The best biography of the Prophet Muhammad in 800 years." Ash-Shifa is highly regarded throughout the Muslim world, where it is said, "If Ash-Shifa is found in a house, this house will not suffer any harm." So it's a good book to have around. (I keep my copy in the bathroom on top of the Quran.)<br />
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<b>Intelligence</b><br />
The illiterate prophet of Islam was more intelligent than all other humans combined. Galileo, Newton, Einstein, and Darwin had nothing on Mo.<br />
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If all the intelligence of humanity, from the first to the last, were to be gathered as one, it would be in comparison to the intelligence of the Prophet... as a single grain of sand." p.49</div>
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His knowledge encompassed all sciences in full. p.211&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>General qualities</b><br />
He was the best, the greatest, the most perfect human being. Allah liked him more than anyone else.<br />
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Allah … made him the most perfect human being. p.12</div>
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&nbsp;The Messenger of Allah … is the best of the People p.18</blockquote>
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&nbsp;Prophet Muhammad … is by far the most worthy and the greatest of all mankind. p.44</blockquote>
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&nbsp;Lady <a href="http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm">Ayesha</a>, Mother of Believers … tells us that the Prophet … said, "Gabriel came to me and said, 'I searched the East and the West of the earth and saw no man better than&nbsp;Muhammad.” p.96</blockquote>
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Allah preferred Muhammad to the angels of the heavens and all the other prophets. p.99&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Allah honored Muhammad above the inhabitants of the heavens of the earth. p.108</blockquote>
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As for the normal shadows that are cast by either the light of the sun or moon, he had none because he himself was radiant with his own light. p.218&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Humility</b><br />
Mo said that he was the most &nbsp;generous, courageous, and powerful person to ever exist. He had more sex than <a href="http://www.fullcourtpest.com/2009/06/laymans-math-wilt-chamberlains-sexual.html">Wilt Chamberlain</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;and&nbsp;more followers than&nbsp;<a href="http://twitaholic.com/ladygaga/">Lady Gaga</a>.&nbsp;Allah likes him more than you and Allah likes his wives more than yours. He was the most eloquent Arab; the most honored and noblest of the children of Adam; and he'll have 1000 adoring youths surrounding him in paradise. And this is no boast.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="sexual"></a>The Prophet ... said, "I have been preferred over my nation in four things – generosity, courage, abundance of sexual intercourse and great power." p.57</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="wives"></a>The Prophet … addressed the people, saying, "O gathering of believers! Allah … has preferred me greatly over you, and He has preferred my wives greatly over yours." pp.102-3&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet … told his Companions, "I am the most eloquent of Arabs.” p.52&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet … spoke of his honored position saying, "I am the most honored of the children of Adam with my Lord, and this is no boast." &nbsp;p.96</blockquote>
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The Prophet … said, “I am the noblest of the children of Adam before my Lord, and this is no boast." p.121</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="boast"></a>"I am the noblest of all the children of Adam with my Lord, and this is no boast. A thousand youths of Paradise will go about me as if they were hidden pearls." p.121</blockquote>
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The Prophet&nbsp; … spoke … saying, "On the Day of Resurrection I will be the master of the Children of Adam and the Banner of Praise will be in my hand, and this is not a boast. p.121</blockquote>
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All the prophets from the time of Adam will come under my banner, and I will be the first for whom the earth splits open, and this is no boast." p.121</blockquote>
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I will be the one with the most followers. p.121</blockquote>
<b>Modesty</b><br />
Mo was a modest person, especially when it came to exposing his private parts. No one, not even his favorite wife, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha">Ayesha</a>, ever saw him naked. Good thing, too, because if they did, they'd go blind.<br />
<blockquote class="tr_bq">
&nbsp;The Prophet ...&nbsp; was a modest person. 57</blockquote>
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When Prophet Muhammad ...&nbsp;took part in the rebuilding of Ka'ba, he was about raise his robe ...&nbsp;but he was prevent by the heaven ... When his uncle asked what ... stopped him, he replied, "I have been prevented from exposing my privates." p.217</blockquote>
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<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="naked"></a>Lady Ayesha … said, "I never saw the private parts of the Messenger of Allah." … The Prophet ... asked Imam Ali to ensure that no one other than himself should wash him (his covered body after his death). He told him, <b>"No one has ever seen me naked, and if it were to happen he would become blind."</b> p.48&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Appearance</b><br />
Mo was the most handsome man that ever existed. His eyes were black, with natural mascara with a slight tinge of pink, accentuated by long eyelashes. His complexion was fair, his beard reached his chest, and his fingers were long. The hair on his chest formed a fine line, but <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2007/01/allah-hates-pubic-hair.html">the rest of his body was completely hairless</a>. &nbsp;His feet were so smooth that water ran off them. (Good info for <a href="http://www.facebook.com/pages/Everybody-Draw-Mohammed-Day-3-may-20-2012/122155544532988">Draw Muhammad Day</a>.)<br />
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He was the most handsome man ever created, surpassing the beauty of Prophet Joseph for whom the women of the city cut their hands. p.44</blockquote>
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The complexion of Prophet Muhammad … was radiant. His eyes were black, deep, widely set, and naturally mascaraed with a slight tinge of pink, accentuated by long eyelashes. p.45&nbsp;</blockquote>
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His beard was thick and reached his chest. ... His fingers were long and … the hair between his chest and navel was fine. He was of medium stature, however, when a tall person walked by his side the Prophet … appeared to be the taller. As for his hair it was neither curly nor straight and when he laughed his teeth were visible like a flash of lightning, or, they have been described as white as hailstones. p.45&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Allah did not send a prophet without making his face and voice beautiful, and that Prophet Muhammad … had the most handsome face of all of them and also the best voice. p.86&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet … His complexion was fair … his nose was long and had a line of light over it that someone might, unthinkingly, suppose to be his nose. His beard was thick, and his eyes were black and naturally mascared. His cheeks were firm and his mouth wide with evenly spaced teeth. The hair on his chest formed a fine line. His neck was as if it were fashioned from pure silver. p.91&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet's physique was finely balanced, and his body firm and muscular. His belly was equal in size to his chest. His chest was broad and the space between his shoulders wide. His calves were full. He was luminous! p.91&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Between the neck and navel of the Prophet ... there was a fine line of hair, however the rest of his torso was free from hair … His feet were so smooth that water ran off them. p.92&nbsp;</blockquote>
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<b>Ancestry and pre-existence</b><br />
Mo came from a long line of non-fornicators. There was not a single female fornicator in 500 generations. Allah created Mo's spirit 2000 years before Adam, putting him into the loins of Adam, Noah, and Abraham. He moved Mo from their noble loins into one pure womb after another, until finally Allah put Mo's spirit into the loins and womb of his parents.<br />
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From the time of Prophet Adam … there was neither an adulterer nor&nbsp;fornicator in the lineage of the Prophet, all were officially married. p.13</div>
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A line of no less than five hundred female ancestors of the Prophet ... He too verified that none had fornicated. p.13&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The spirit of the Prophet ...&nbsp; was a light in the hands of Allah two thousand years before He created Adam … and when Allah created Adam, He cast that light into his loins.” p.53&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet ...&nbsp; said, "Allah brought me down to earth in the loins of Adam, then He placed me in the loins of Noah and thereafter cast me into the loins of Abraham. Allah proceeded to move me from one noble loin and pure womb to another until He brought me out of my parents. None of them were ever joined together in fornication." pp.53, 96&nbsp;</blockquote>
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You came through … as a drop that …was transferred from loin to womb.&nbsp;… When you were born, the earth shone And the horizon was illuminated by your light. p.97</blockquote>
<b>Birth</b><br />
Mo was born clean and already circumcised, with a pre-cut umbilical cord. Allah sent meteors to scare away any satans and jinns that were hanging around at the time of his birth.<br />
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Upon the Prophet's birth ... &nbsp;the heavens became guarded by meteors that chase would-be eavesdroppers away and thereby prevent the mischief of the satans and jinn. p.217&nbsp;</blockquote>
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<b>Name</b><br />
Allah assigns angels to visit each house with an Ahmad or Muhammad in it. Consequently, houses with one to three Muhammads are always&nbsp;prosperous, along with everyone else in the neighborhood. And whoever is named Muhammad has a sure-fire ticket to heaven, based on the name alone.<br />
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Allah has angels, who as an element of their worship, visit each house that has a person called Ahmad or Muhammad in it on account of the honor in which they hold Muhammad." p.101&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Prophet Muhammad ...&nbsp; said, "No harm will come if&nbsp;he has, one, two or three Muhammad's in the house." p.102&nbsp;</blockquote>
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There isn't an unprosperous house in which there is the name Muhammad. All the people of that house are provided for and likewise their neighbors. p.102&nbsp;</blockquote>
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On the Day of Resurrection a call will be given, 'Let whosoever is named Muhammad stand up and enter the Garden by the meritorious honor of his name.' p.102 &nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Sexual prowess</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="30"></a>Mo was endowed with the power of 30 to 40 men. He'd visit each of his wives in the same hour, taking a purification bath between each visit. Solomon had as much semen as 100 men, so just imagine the load that Mo could deliver!<br />
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There is, however, an extra virtue the satisfaction of satisfying a wife's need.&nbsp;The Prophet … was given an abundance of this ability and would visit all of his wives in the same hour. Anas and his companions concluded that he had been given the power of thirty men. p.56&nbsp;</blockquote>
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In the matter of sexual intercourse, the Prophet was endowed with the power of forty men. After having visited each wife he would take a purification bath before going to the next and said, "This is better and purer." p.56&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Prophet Solomon and Prophet David were endowed with the same ability. Prophet Solomon said, "During the night I visited a hundred or ninety-nine women. Abbas' son said, "In the loins of Solomon there was the semen of a hundred men, and he had three hundred wives and three hundred whom the right hand possesses." It has also been reported that he had seven hundred wives. As for Prophet David, he had ninety-nine wives. p.56&nbsp;</blockquote>
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<b>Eyesight</b><br />
Mo could see stuff behind him just like it was in front of him, and could see as well in the dark as in the light. He could even see eleven of the 1000 or so stars in the&nbsp;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades#Composition">Pleiades</a>. Since Moses could spot an ant from 30 miles away, just imagine what Mo was able to see!<br />
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The Prophet... told his Companions, "I see the one behind my neck just as I see the one before me." … When the Messenger of Allah ... arose from prayer he could see everyone behind him, just as if they were in front of him." p.49</blockquote>
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The Prophet could see just as well in the dark as he could see in the light. p.49&nbsp;</blockquote>
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His clear-sightedness permitted him to see the eleven stars in the Pleaides. p.49&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Prophet Moses, Moses was able to see an ant on a stone a distance of thirty miles away." So imagine what Prophet Muhammad … was able to see. 49 &nbsp;</blockquote>
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<b>Sweat</b><br />
Mo's sweat smelled sweet.<br />
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&nbsp;The Prophet … was adorned with the sweetest of fragrances, as was his perspiration. p.46</blockquote>
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&nbsp;The Prophet … visited the house of Anas and fell asleep on a rug and perspired. When Anas's mother noticed the perspiration she fetched a long necked bottle into which she collected the drops of perspiration. Later, the Messenger of Allah … inquired about it, whereupon she replied, "We mixed it with our perfume and it is the most fragrant of scents." pp.46-47</blockquote>
<b>Urine</b><br />
Mo's urine smelled even better than his sweat. It smelled so good, in fact, that the earth split open to swallow the prophet's pee, leaving a fragrant aroma behind. Apparently this happened with prophet pooped, as well, since the earth swallowed whatever he discharged. Many people drank Mo's urine, with his permission and consent, and they all swore it tasted sweet.<br />
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Even when the Prophet … relieved himself, it is reported that the earth would split open and swallow his discharge and there remained a fragrant aroma. p.47</div>
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Lady Ayesha … said to the Prophet … "When you return after relieving yourself, there is nothing offensive about you." He replied, "O Ayesha, don't you know that the earth swallows up what is discharged from the prophets so that nothing is seen?" p.47</blockquote>
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The Prophet... kept a wooden bowl under his bed in which, if he felt the need, he could urinate during the night. One night a lady by the name of Baraka,, … felt thirsty and upon seeing the cup drank the urine without knowing. There were also similar occurrences in&nbsp;which his urine was drunk, when the Prophet... learned of it he did not order the washing of their mouth nor did he forbid them to do it again. … The output from his body was sweeter and the drinker did not taste any urine as they would do so with anyone else. p.48</blockquote>
<b>Mo's teaching about wives</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="most_wives"></a>It is good for a man to have more than one wife; the best man is the one with the most wives.<br />
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It is praiseworthy for a man to have more than one wife, referring to the Prophet … Abbas' son said, "The best of this community is the one with the most wives." p.55</div>
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<b>About celibacy</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="privates"></a>Whoever can get married should get married. It protects the private parts.<br />
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The Prophet … forbade celibacy … and said, <b>"Whosoever is able to marry should marry, it lowers the eyes and protects the private parts."</b> p.55 &nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>About religion</b><br />
<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2012/01/islam-its-mostly-about-going-to.html">All true religion is based on cleanliness.&nbsp;</a><br />
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The Prophet … said, ”The religion is based on cleanliness." p.46</blockquote>
<b>About Adam</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="Adam"></a>Adam was 90 feet tall.<br />
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Prophet Muhammad ... &nbsp;said, "The first group to enter the <st1:place><st1:placetype>Garden</st1:placetype>  of <st1:placename>Paradise</st1:placename></st1:place> will be like the full moon … every man will be in the height of their father Adam who was sixty cubits (90 feet) tall." p.86&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>About Moses and Jesus</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="Jesus"></a>Moses wall tall with red hair. He was like the best man you've ever seen with a dark complexion. Mo looks more like him than anyone else does. But nobody ever saw any part of Moses' body on account of his modesty.<br />
Jesus had a red face, just like he'd come out of a hot bath.<br />
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Prophet Muhammad … tells us, "I saw Moses, he was tall with curly hair.” … I saw Jesus, he was of medium height with a reddish face just as if he had come out after having taken a hot bath." p.86&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet … gave additional information about Moses saying, "He is like the best men you have ever seen with a dark complexion." ….&nbsp; Of himself the Prophet ... &nbsp;said, "Among the descendants of Abraham, I am the one who most resembles him." p.86&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Prophet Muhammad … tells us that Prophet Moses was a modest man who covered himself. No part of his body was seen on account of his modesty. p.87</blockquote>
<b>About sickness</b><br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="illness"></a>The root of all illness is indigestion.<br />
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Of illness, the Prophet ... &nbsp;informs us of his knowledge saying, "The root of every illness is indigestion." p.211</blockquote>
<b>About progress and innovation</b><br />
&nbsp;Follow Mo and beware of new things. New things are innovations and all innovations are misguided.<br />
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;warned, ”You must follow my prophetic way and the way of the rightly guided Caliphs. Cling to it voraciously and beware of new things. New things are innovations and each innovation (that is not in the Spirit of Islam) is misguidance." p.226&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>About knowledge</b><br />
There are only three type of knowledge: verse, prophetic way, and inheritance. All other knowledge is superfluous.<br />
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;spoke of knowledge saying, "There are three types of knowledge; a precise verse, an established prophetic way, and a just share of inheritance. All other knowledge is superfluous." p.226&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Miracles</b><br />
One of Mo's favorite miracles was to make water come out of his fingers. Another was to talk trees into forming a screen so he could pee without anyone seeing. Rocks, trees, mountains, and lizards talked and bowed to Mo as he walked by.<br />
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There are many reports by the Companions that relate to numerous occasions when water was witnessed flowing from the fingers of the Prophet. p.168</div>
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Messenger of Allah ... &nbsp;felt the need to relieve himself however there was nothing to screen him. So the Messenger of Allah ... &nbsp;went to one of the trees and took hold of a branch and said, "Let me lead you by the permission of Allah" and gently proceeded to lead it like a haltered camel. He did the same with the other tree until the trees stood side by side, then he said to them "By the permission of Allah, join together for me" and this they did. p.175&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The trees parted <span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;">f</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;">r</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">o</span>m<span style="letter-spacing: 0.4pt;"> </span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">e</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.2pt;">a</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;">c</span>h<span style="letter-spacing: 0.6pt;"> </span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">o</span><span style="letter-spacing: 0.1pt;">t</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.3pt;">h</span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.05pt;">e</span>r … The Prophet ... &nbsp;felt the need to relieve himself&nbsp;and asked if there was anywhere. Osama told him that the dried up water bed had no place of concealment, so the Prophet ... &nbsp;asked if any palm trees or stones had been seen. Osama told him that he had seen some scattered palm-trees and some stones, so the Prophet ... &nbsp;said, "Go and tell them that the Messenger of Allah commands them to come to his assistance … I saw the palm-trees draw near to each other until they joined and the stones came together until they formed a mound behind the Prophet. After he had relieved himself he told Osama to tell them to part, and Osama swore again saying, "By He who sent him with the truth, I saw the palm-trees and stones part and return to their places." pp.175-6&nbsp;</blockquote>
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When the Prophet ... &nbsp;was visiting a certain district in <st1:city><st1:place>Mecca</st1:place></st1:city> and as he passed each and every tree and mountain it greeted him saying 'Peace be upon you, O Messenger of Allah." p.179</blockquote>
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Lady Ayesha that when Gabriel came to him with a message, every stone or tree he passed would greet him saying, "Peace be upon you, O Messenger of Allah." p.179</blockquote>
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When the Prophet, praise and peace be upon happened to pass by a tree or rock it would bow to him. p.179&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;called the lizard and it answered in clear human speech so that everyone could hear, "Obedient to you, O adornment of the One who will bring the Resurrection!" The Prophet ... &nbsp;asked the lizard, "Who do you worship? And it replied, "The One whose throne is in the heaven and whose power is in the earth, whose path is in the sea, whose&nbsp;mercy is in the Garden, and whose punishment is in the Fire." Then the Prophet ... &nbsp;asked, "Who am I?" and it replied, "The Messenger of the Lord of the Worlds and the Seal of the Prophets. Whosoever bears witness that this is so is successful and whosoever belies you is lost!" p.181</blockquote>
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;who thereafter gave him a branch of a palm-tree saying, "Take it with you, it will shed light for you an arms length before you and an arms length behind you. When you enter your house you will see something dark. Beat it until it leaves because it is satan." p.195&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Cures</b><br />
Mo made a 70 year old man look like he was 15, and a 120 year old man to die without any broken teeth. He cured insane people by stroking their chests. And he stopped a couple young boys from crying by letting them suck on his tongue.<br />
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;supplicated for Abu Katada saying, "May your face prosper! O Allah, bless him in his hair and skin." Abu Katada died at the age of seventy but looked no older than fifteen. p.190</blockquote>
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An-Nabigha lived till the age of one hundred and twenty, the Prophet ... &nbsp;supplicated for him saying, "May Allah not break your teeth" and none of his teeth fell out. p.190&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Whenever an insane person was brought to the Prophet ... &nbsp;he would stroke their chest and the insanity would leave them. p.196&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The grandsons of the Prophet, Al Hasan and Al Hussain ... were young and crying on account of thirst. The Prophet ... &nbsp;gave him his tongue to suck and thereafter they stopped crying. p.194&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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<b>Curses</b><br />
Mo could curse as well as cure. He made a man lame for praying against him, and sent a lion to eat another for the same crime. He&nbsp;paralyzed a guy for eating with his left hand, and caused placenta-wielding unbelievers to be killed in battle. He sent a fatal disease on a man's knee for trying to break his staff. And he made a horse lame to punish its owner for lying.<br />
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<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="lame"></a>One day a young man stopped praying, and the Prophet ... supplicated against him and he became lame. p.192</blockquote>
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Utba, Abi Lahab's son was one of the enemies of the Prophet, praise and&nbsp;peace be upon him, and he supplicate against him saying, "O Allah, give one of your carnivores power over him", later he was devoured by a lion. p.192&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Muhallim, Jaththama's son was another of the vehement enemies of the Prophet ... &nbsp;and was subjected to his curse. Muhallim was killed by a wild beast and every time an attempt to bury him was made, the earth rejected him and threw his body to its surface. Finally they threw his corpse between a gully and covered him with stones. p.192&nbsp;&nbsp;</blockquote>
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The Prophet ... &nbsp;saw a man eating with his left hand and advised him, "Eat with your right hand." The man arrogantly replied, "I am not able to do so." The Prophet ... &nbsp;said, "You will not be able to do so," and thereafter the man was never able to raise his right hand to his mouth. p.192&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Masood's son tells us of the time when the unbelievers among the Koraysh put a placenta full of fluid and blood around the Prophet's neck whilst he was prostrate in prayer to Allah. The Prophet ... &nbsp;cursed each of the participants, name by name, and during the Battle of Badr each one met their death. p.192&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Jihjah Al Ghifari snatched hold of the Prophet's staff from Othman's hand and proceeded to try and break it across his knee. Upon seeing this the people shouted at him. Thereafter he was stricken by an itching disease in his knee and despite its amputation he died within the year. p.255</blockquote>
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A certain man denied that he had sold his horse and only gave up his claim to ownership after the Prophet ... &nbsp;supplicated, "O Allah, if he is lying, do not give him any blessing in it" whereupon the legs of the horse became rigid. p.192&nbsp;</blockquote>
<b>Miscellaneous&nbsp;facts&nbsp;</b><br />
Talking meat, groovy gestures, rapt audiences, and Mo's special fly&nbsp;repellent.<br />
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A Jewess poisoned the meat she had prepared for the Prophet. … The meat spoke to him telling him that it had been poisoned. p.65</blockquote>
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If he happened to point to something, he pointed with his entire hand. When something surprised him he would turn the palm of his hand upside down. When talking, he held his right thumb in his left palm. &nbsp;p.92&nbsp;</blockquote>
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When he spoke, those sitting with him sat still, as if they had birds perched on their heads. p.94&nbsp;</blockquote>
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Flies did not alight on either his clothes or body. p.218&nbsp;</blockquote>
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		<title>Netanyahu&#8217;s Purim gift to President Obama: The Book of Esther (and a war with Iran)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, it's Purim time again, when Jews celebrate the day their ancestors supposedly killed 75,000 Persians in a preemptive strike because the Persians supposedly planned to kill the Jews. (DIU: The Esther Killings.)  The story is found in the Book of E...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim">Purim</a> time again, when Jews celebrate the day their ancestors supposedly killed 75,000 Persians in a preemptive strike because the Persians supposedly planned to kill the Jews. (<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/11/esther-killings-do-they-belong-on-gods.html" title="The Esther Killings">DIU: The Esther Killings</a>.)  </p><p>The story is found in the Book of Esther, which Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, <a href="http://www.politico.com/politico44/2012/03/netanyahus-ahmadinejad-purim-spiel-116750.html">recently gave to President Obama as a Purim gift</a>. Since ancient Persia is modern Iran, the message behind the gift is clear enough: let's do it again.  </p><p>I hope that President Obama takes the time to read the Book of Esther, if he hasn't already. It's a silly, disgusting story that every Jew (and Christian) should be ashamed of, rather than celebrate -- or, worse yet, imitate.  </p><p>There is no hope for peace in the world as long its leaders are inspired by the Bible and the Quran.<br /><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-1463231524569784562?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Forget Jesus. Follow Miley Cyrus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 01:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beautiful. twitter.com/MileyCyrus/sta…&#8212; Miley Ray Cyrus (@MileyCyrus) March 1, 2012  I don't know anything about Miley Cyrus, but she makes a lot more sense than Jesus.  Here is the lecture by Lawrence Krauss from which the quote was taken. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Beautiful. <a href="http://t.co/dKz8wkm1" title="http://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/175326502718676992/photo/1">twitter.com/MileyCyrus/sta…</a></p>&mdash; Miley Ray Cyrus (@MileyCyrus) <a href="https://twitter.com/MileyCyrus/status/175326502718676992" data-datetime="2012-03-01T21:07:50+00:00">March 1, 2012</a></blockquote><script src="http://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>  <p>I don't know anything about Miley Cyrus, but she makes a lot more sense than <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/11/reasons-to-be-ashamed-and-not-fan-of.html" title="50 reasons to be ashamed (and not a fan) of Jesus">Jesus</a>.  </p><p>Here is the lecture by Lawrence Krauss from which the quote was taken. <br />
(I posted a link to this <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/10/forget-jesus-stars-died-so-that-you.html" title="Forget Jesus. The stars died so you could live.">a while back</a>, but I can't resist doing it again. It is well worth watching twice.)  </p><p><iframe width="500" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/7ImvlS8PLIo?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-7493228331507733575?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Behold, it came to pass exceedingly: The biblely bits of the Book of Mormon</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 22:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've previously posted on "it came to pass" in the Book of Mormon and I've highlighted the occurrences of that phrase, along with "exceedingly" in the SABoM. But there's another that should be added to the list. And that is "Behold."

These three phras...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/search/label/And%20it%20came%20to%20pass" title="And it came to pass">previously posted</a> on "it came to pass" in the Book of Mormon and I've highlighted <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/topics/aictp.html">the occurrences of that phrase</a>, along with "<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/topics/exceed.html">exceedingly</a>" in the <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/index.htm">SABoM</a>. But there's another that should be added to the list. And that is "Behold."

<p>These three phrases are also, of course, found in the King James Version of the Bible, which is no doubt why Joseph Smith used them so often in the BoM; it just sounded so darned biblical. The trouble is that he got carried away with it. 

</p><p>Here's a summary of the occurrences of "Behold," "It came to pass," and "Exceedingly" in the BoM and the King James Version of the Bible. (I haven't highlighted the "beholds" yet in the SABOM, but I'll get to them eventually.)

<table cellspacing="20">

<tr>
<th></th>
<td>BoM
</td><td>King James Version
</td></tr>

<tr><td>Behold
</td><td>1669
</td><td>1275

<tr><td>It came to pass
</td><td>1424</td>
<td>452</td>

</tr>

<tr><td>Exceedingly
</td><td>287
</td><td>39

</td></tr></td></tr></table>

</p><p>Each of these phrases occurs more often in the BoM than in the Bible, with "exceedingly" occurring over seven times as often. And that's without taking the their sizes into account.  The Bible is nearly five times as big as the BoM. 

</p><p>Here's how the comparison looks when size is taken into account. <br />(Occurrences per 100 verses; 6553 verses in the BoM, 31102 in the Bible)

<table cellspacing="20">

<tr>
<th></th>
<td>BoM
</td><td>King James Version
</td></tr>

<tr>
<td>Behold
</td><td>25.47</td>
<td>4.10</td>
</tr>

<tr><td>It came to pass
</td><td>21.7</td>
<td>1.45</td>
</tr>

<tr>
<td>Exceedingly
</td><td>4.38</td>
<td>0.13</td>
</tr>
</table>

</p><p>Now let's repeat the analysis using all three of Joseph Smith's favorite phrases.<br />
(Occurrences per 100 verses)

<table cellspacing="20">

<tr>
<th></th>
<td>BoM
</td><td>King James Version
</td></tr>

<tr>
<td>Behold, <br />it came to pass <br />exceedingly
</td><td>51.6</td>
<td>5.68</td>
</tr>
</table>

</p><p>So these phrases occur nearly ten times more often in the Book of Mormon as they do in the Bible. (And they occur rarely anywhere else.) 

</p><p>Here's how <a href="http://youtu.be/wiXpIdD8EeM">Richard Dawkins put it</a> on Real Time with Bill Maher.

<blockquote>Joseph Smith made it [The Book of Mormon] up in the 19th century ... in 17th century English.... It's got charlatan written absolutely all over it. How it could have possibly caught on and still be going strong today ... and even having candidates for president is beyond me.</blockquote>

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		<title>Who had the most powerful spit: Jesus or Muhammad?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 18:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is an important question. 

Luckily, the gospels and Ash-Shifa can answer it for us. (Ash-Shifa is a 12th century biography of Muhammad that is considered authoritative throughout the Muslim world.)

Let's take Jesus' spit first. 


In Mark's gosp...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an important question. 

</p><p>Luckily, the gospels and <a href="http://madinasharif.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ash-shifa-shareef-of-qadi-iyad-ibn-musa-al-yahsubi-radi-allahu-anhu.pdf">Ash-Shifa</a> can answer it for us. (Ash-Shifa is a 12th century biography of Muhammad that is considered authoritative throughout the Muslim world.)

</p><p>Let's take Jesus' spit first. 

<ul>
<li>In Mark's gospel, Jesus cured a deaf man by putting some of his holy spit on the deaf man's tongue.

<blockquote>And they bring unto him one that was deaf, and had an impediment in his speech ... And he ... put his fingers into his ears, and he spit, and touched his tongue ... And straightway his ears were opened, and the string of his tongue was loosed, and he spake plain. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/7.html#32" SAB: Mark 7:32-35>Mark 7:32-35</a></blockquote>

</li><li>And he cured a blind man by spitting on (or in) his eyes. 

<blockquote>And they bring a blind man unto him ... And ... he ... spit on his eyes [and] asked him if he saw ought. And he looked up, and said, I see men as trees, walking. After that he put his hands again upon his eyes, and made him look up: and he was restored, and saw every man clearly. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/8.html#22" SAB: Mark 8:22-25>Mark 8:22-25</a></blockquote>

</li><li>The only other gospel that mentions Jesus' spit is John, which says that another blind man (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/spit.html">or was it the same one?</a>) was cured with mud made with Jesus spit followed by a holy water bath. 

<blockquote>And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him .... When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay, And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam ... He ... washed, and came seeing. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/9.html#1" SAB: John 9:1-7>John 9:1-7</a></blockquote>
</li></ul>

Now let's consider the spit of the Prophet Muhammad (PB&J be upon him). <br />(All quotes are taken from <a href="http://madinasharif.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ash-shifa-shareef-of-qadi-iyad-ibn-musa-al-yahsubi-radi-allahu-anhu.pdf">Ash-Shifa</a>.)


<ul>
<li>Just like Jesus, Muhammad cured blind and deaf people by spitting in their eyes or ears. 

<blockquote>Habib, either the son of Fudayk or Furayk's said that his father's eyes became so white that he had no vision at all. The Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him, blew some of his saliva in to his eyes whereupon his vision was immediately restored. He was even seen threading a needle at the age of eighty! (p. 188)</blockquote>

<blockquote>At the Battle of Khybar, Ali's eyes became very painful. The Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, blew some of his saliva on them and they were immediately healed. (p. 188)</blockquote>

<blockquote>A lady from Khuth'am had a child who was mute. The Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, asked for some water to be brought with which he rinsed his mouth and washed hands. Then he gave it to the mother and told her to wash the child and wipe him with it. The mother did as the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, had said and the child was no longer mute and had an intellect superior to most people. (p. 189)</blockquote>

</li><li>And <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/water_rock.html" title="How did God tell Moses to get water out of a rock?">like Moses</a>, he could make water miraculously appear. But he didn't have to strike a rock with his rod or even speak to the rock. He did it all with his spit. 

<blockquote>At Hudaybiyah, we are told by Al Bara', there were approximately 14,000 men, and the water well they found was insufficient to provide for even fifty sheep. The Companions crowded around the well until not one single drop remained. Then, the Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him, came and sat beside it and a pail was brought to him in which he blew some of his saliva and supplicated. Salama reported that he either supplicated or blew some of his salvia in it whereupon water gushed forth and there was sufficient water for themselves and enough to fill their containers. (p. 170)</blockquote>

</li><li>Like Jesus, Muhammad cured people with mud made with his own spit. But Muhammad's muddy spit treatment was administered orally rather than topically. 

<blockquote>Mula'ib's son suffered from an edema of water fluid, and sent a messenger to the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, to tell him of his condition. The Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, took some dust from the ground, blew some of his salvia upon it and gave to the Mula'ib's messenger who was amazed and took it fearing that he would be laughed at. He returned to Mulai'b's son who was now on the verge of death and gave it to him. He consumed it and Allah cured him.</blockquote>

</li><li>And Muhammad's spit, unlike Jesus', cured more than just blind and deaf people. It also worked on burn and hernia patients.

<blockquote>There was a lady who brought her possessed son to the Prophet, praise and peace be upon, and Abbas' son tells us that the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, stroked his chest whereupon the child vomited something that resembled a black puppy and was immediately cured. We are also told of the time Muhammad, Hatim's son was a child and a boiling pot overturned on his arm, the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, stroked it, supplicated, then blew some of his salvia on it and it was immediately healed. (p. 189)</blockquote>

<blockquote>A man came to him suffering from a hernia. He instructed that it be sprinkled with water from a spring into which he had blown some saliva. After this had been carried out the man was cured. (p. 196)</blockquote>

</li><li>Bad mannered girls behave much better after eating food from Muhammad's mouth. (There's nothing like this in the gospels.)

<blockquote>A girl who was in the service of the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, asked him for some food when he was eating and as he never refused anyone anything he gave her what was in front of him. The girl was persistent and said, "I want the food in your mouth." So he gave her what was in his mouth. After she had swallowed it, she became well mannered and the change was apparent for all to see, and she became among the most well mannered girls of
Medina. (p. 189)</blockquote>

</li><li>Many soldiers were completely healed by rubbing Muhammad spit on their wounds. (Something similar occurred <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/22.html#50">during Jesus' arrest</a>, when a man with a severed ear was restored by Jesus' touch. But since no spit was involved, it doesn't count in the holy spit competition.)

<blockquote>Abu Sa'id Al Khudri said that the Prophet, praise and peace, be upon him, put some of his saliva on the mark made by the arrow on the Day of Dhu Qarad and Abu Katada told him that it neither throbbed nor yet became infected. (p. 187)</blockquote>

<blockquote>During the Battle of Uhud, Kulthum Hussain's son was shot in his throat. The Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him, blew some of his saliva upon it and it healed immediately. Abdullah, Anies' son was also among those injured during the encounter and sustained a wound to his head, once again the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, blew some of his saliva upon it and it did not turn septic. (p. 188)</blockquote>

<blockquote>Salama, Al Akwa's son sustained a wound to his thigh during the battle and a similar miracle occurred whereby he too was immediately healed. (p. 188)</blockquote>

</li><li>And finally, and most impressively, Muhammad cured amputees with his spit. (<a href="http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/">Not even God can do that!</a>)

<blockquote>It was during the Battle of Badr that Abu Jahl severed the hand of Mu'awwidh, Afra's son. Mu'awwidh went to the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him carrying his severed hand, whereupon the Prophet, praise and peace be upon him, blew some of his saliva on it, replaced it was immediately miraculously rejoined to his arm. It was during the same battle Wahb's son tells us that Khubaby, Yasaf's son was severely struck on the neck and half of it was severed. The Messenger of Allah, praise and peace be upon him, blew his salvia upon it and it was immediately healed. (p. 188-9)</blockquote>

</li></ul>

</p><p>So Muhammad wins the holy spit contest. I guess we should all convert to Islam. (What more evidence could anyone ever ask for?)<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-7147330045122300805?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>David Barton: Life begins at last call (Jeremiah 1:5)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Barton (the psuedo-historian that Mike Huckabee wants every American to be 'forced at gun point' to listen to) says that "life begins before conception." (Jeremiah 1:5)

Or as Seth Meyers put it, "Life begins at last call."

 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Barton (the psuedo-historian that <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-rodda/huckabee-david-barton-gunpoint_b_842506.html">Mike Huckabee wants every American to be 'forced at gun point' to listen to</a>) says that "<a href="http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/barton-life-begins-before-conception">life begins before conception.</a>" (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jer/1.html#5" title="SAB: Jeremiah 1:5">Jeremiah 1:5</a>)

</p><p>Or as Seth Meyers put it, "Life begins at last call."

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[God, I love it when fundamentalists quote Numbers 21.  You remember Numbers 21, don't you? It's the one where the Israelites complain about the lack of food and water, so God sends snakes to bite them, and many of them die.  So the people ask Moses to ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, I love it when fundamentalists quote <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/num/21.html" Stitle="SAB: Numbers 21">Numbers 21</a>.  </p><p>You remember Numbers 21, don't you? It's the one where the Israelites complain about the lack of food and water, so <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2009/07/gods-23rd-killing-god-sends-fiery.html" title="God's 24th killing">God sends snakes</a> to bite them, and many of them die.  </p><p>So the people ask Moses to ask God to call off the snakes. And that's when God came up with a wonderful plan. He told Moses to make a bronze (brass in the KJV) serpent and stick it on a pole. Then, when the snake-bite victims look at it, they won't die.  </p><p>So that's what Moses did.   </p><p>And <i>that</i>, according to Bryan Fischer, is what we need our next president to do. Make a bronze serpent to protect us from God's fiery serpents.  </p><p><iframe width="500" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/tO350U2ZSgU?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>  </p><p>It will probably be Rick Stantorum's first act as president.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-5668765764696499251?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Happy Darwin Day!</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 20:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[To celebrate Charles Darwin's 203rd birthday, I attended Darwin on the Palouse on Thursday at Washington State University and at the University of Idaho on Friday. It was sponsored by the Palouse Coalition of Reason, and featured presentations by Danie...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[To celebrate Charles Darwin's 203rd birthday, I attended <a href="http://darwinonthepalouse.org/">Darwin on the Palouse</a> on Thursday at Washington State University and at the University of Idaho on Friday. It was sponsored by <a href="http://www.unitedcor.org/palouse/page/home">the Palouse Coalition of Reason</a>, and featured presentations by Daniel Dennett, PZ Myers, Fred Edwords, and Jen McCreight. It was as close to heaven as I'll ever come. <br />
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I don't have time to report on the presentations, but since they were videotaped, I'll post a link to them when they become available.   <br />
Still, I feel like I ought to say a few words in honor of Darwin on his birthday. Or better yet, I'll let him speak for himself.   <br />
Here's a quote from the introduction to <a href="http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/charles_darwin/descent_of_man/introduction.html">The Descent of Man</a>.  <br />
<blockquote>
It has often and confidently been asserted, that man's origin can never be known: but ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science.</blockquote>
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14 March 2012 Update: Here's the Daniel Dennett talk.<br />
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		<title>Bill Maher unbaptizes Mitt Romney&#8217;s dead father-in-law</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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For more information about this see the articles in Gawker. 
Watch Bill Maher Unbaptize Mitt Romney’s Dead Father-in-Law
Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism

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<p>For more information about this see the articles in Gawker. <br />
<a href="http://gawker.com/5882215/watch-bill-maher-unbaptize-mitt-romneys-dead-father+in+law">Watch Bill Maher Unbaptize Mitt Romney’s Dead Father-in-Law</a><br />
<a href="http://gawker.com/5879888/">Yes, the Romneys Converted Mitt’s Dead Atheist Father-in-Law to Mormonism</a><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-8408872775534020243?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>What the Book of Mormon says about the poor (and why Mitt Romney should be concerned about them)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 18:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The morning after winning the Florida primary, Mitt Romney said "he wasn't concerned about the very poor" in an interview with Soledad O'Brien of CNN.

The next day at the National Prayer Breakfast, President Obama expressed just the opposite point of ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The morning after winning the Florida primary, Mitt Romney said "he wasn't concerned about the very poor" in <a href="http://cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/politics/2012/02/01/tsr-bash-romney-clear-up-poor-comment.cnn.html">an interview</a> with Soledad O'Brien of CNN.

<p>The next day at <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/02/obama-speeech-at-national-breakfast_n_1249837.html">the National Prayer Breakfast</a>, President Obama expressed just the opposite point of view. Here are some excepts, along with the corresponding bible verses.

<blockquote> 
... the biblical call [is] to care for the least of these –- for the poor; for those at the margins of our society. To answer the responsibility we’re given in Proverbs to “Speak up for those who cannot speak for themselves, for the rights of all who are destitute.” (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/31.html#8" title="SAB: Proverbs 31:8-10">Proverbs 31:8-10</a>)

<p>...

</p><p>John tells us that, “If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth.” (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/3.html#17" title="SAB: 1 John 3:17">1 John 3:17</a>)
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</p><p>There were, of course, some misapplied biblical references to "Am I my brother's keeper" (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#9" title="SAB: Genesis 4:9">Genesis 4:9</a>) and "For unto whom much is given, much shall be required." (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/12.html#48" title="SAB: Luke 12:48">Luke 12:48</a>). But Obama made his point: he's a better Christian than Romney.

</p><p>Still if I were writing Obama's speech, I'd have thrown in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/29.html#7" title="SAB: Proverbs 29:7">Proverbs 29:17</a>, just for Mitt "I'm not concerned about the poor" Romney.

<blockquote><b>The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: but the wicked regardeth not to know it.</b></blockquote>

</p><p>So we've pretty well established that Mitt isn't much of a Christian. But we already knew that. He's a Mormon.

</p><p>And what the does Book of Mormon say about poor people?

</p><p>Plenty, as it turns out. Here are some excerpts.

<blockquote>Ye will administer of your substance unto him that standeth in need; and ye will not suffer that the beggar putteth up his petition to you in vain, and turn him out to perish. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/mosiah/4.html#16" title="SABoM: Mosiah 4:16">Mosiah 4:16</a>)

<p><b>Ye ought to impart of the substance that ye have one to another.</b> (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/mosiah/4.html#21" title="SABoM: Mosiah 4:21">Mosiah 4:21</a>)

</p><p><b>Impart of your substance to the poor, every man according to that which he hath.</b> (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/mosiah/4.html#26" title="SABoM: Mosiah 4:26">Mosiah 4:26</a>)

</p><p><b>They did impart of their substance, every man according to that which he had</b>, to the poor, and the needy, and the sick, and the afflicted; and ... <b>they were liberal to all.</b> (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/alma/1.html#27" title="SABoM: Alma 1:27-30">Alma 1:27-30</a>)

</p><p>Yea, he saw great inequality among the people ... turning their backs upon the needy and the naked and those who were hungry, and those who were athirst, and those who were sick and afflicted. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/alma/4.html#12" title="SABoM: Alma 4:12">Alma 4:12</a>)

</p><p><b>Will you persist in turning your backs upon the poor, and the needy, and in withholding your substance from them?</b> (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/bom/alma/5.html#55" title="SABoM: Alma 5:55">Alma 5:55</a>)
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		<title>Islam: It&#8217;s mostly about going to the bathroom</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You probably think that being a Muslim involves praying five times a day, eating halal food, fasting during Ramadan, and traveling to Mecca once in your lifetime. And, for many Muslims, it does. But there's a heck of lot more to it than that.  
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[You probably think that being a Muslim involves praying five times a day, eating halal food, fasting during Ramadan, and traveling to Mecca once in your lifetime. And, for many Muslims, it does. But there's a heck of lot more to it than that.  <br />
Take going to the bathroom, for instance.  <br />
Now it's true that Allah doesn't provide much bathroom guidance in the Quran, although there is this bit of helpful advice:  <br />
<blockquote>When ye rise up for prayer ... if ye ... cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/5/index.htm#6">Quran 5:6</a></blockquote>Which tells us that that kind of thing is important to Allah. He cares about your bathroom routine.  <br />
And so does Muhammad (PB&amp;J be upon him). He was absolutely obsessed with it. Here is what he had to say:  <br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="excrement"></a><b>Your Apostle</b> (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) <b>teaches you about everything, even about excrement.</b> (1)</blockquote>So let's take a look at some of the things that Muhammad taught about excrement.    <br />
<ol><li><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="prayer"></a>Before entering the bathroom, cover your head, put shoes on your feet, and say this little prayer: "<b>O Allah I seek your protection from the male and female devils.</b>"  <blockquote>When going to the toilet the messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) would wear footwear. He would cover his blessed head and before stepping into the room, he would read: 'O Allah I seek your protection from the male and female devils.' (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Enter the bathroom with your left foot.  <blockquote>The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) would enter the toilet with his left foot. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Don't read the Quran while on the toilet.  <br />
<blockquote>Any verse of the Qur'an, should be removed before entering the toilet. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Don't let anyone see you pee. (No one ever saw Muhammad do it -- except for all those eyewitnesses who provided the glorious details about his peeing technique.)  <blockquote>Jabir (may Allah be pleased with him) states that, 'When the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) would go to relieve himself he would go so far that no-one could see him.'  We should make sure that there is complete privacy whilst relieving one's self; this is modesty that every Muslim should have. (1)</blockquote><blockquote>A person should be concealed from the sight of others when answering the call of nature. ...  How can anybody uncover in front of other people the ‘awrah (private parts) which Allaah has placed between his legs to conceal it and commanded him to cover it? (2)</blockquote><blockquote>One should move and hide himself from others, as the prophet SAAWS only relieved himself when he was out of site. (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Don't try to hold it before prayer. If you do, your prayer won't count. (Allah knows who has to pee or fart and who doesn't, and he gets pissed off when he sees people praying when they should be peeing.)  <blockquote>When the time for prayer comes and one of you needs to relieve himself, he should do that first ...  it is Makrooh-e-Tehrimi to hold urine/wind or the need to go to the toilet. One should relieve themselves first as the Salaah will have to be repeated. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Keep all of your clothes on until the very last second. Then take off only the clothes that are absolutely necessary while getting as close to the ground as possible. (God hates to see you naked.)  <blockquote>'When the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) would go to relieve himself, he would not remove the clothing from his body until he was close to the ground. (1)</blockquote><blockquote>A person should not uncover his ‘awrah (private parts) until after he has squatted close to the ground, because this is more concealing, as Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported: “When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) wanted to answer the call of nature, he would not lift his garment until he had squatted close to the ground.” (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Point your face in some other direction besides Mecca while pooping or peeing -- but for God's sake don't point your butt or penis in that direction either. (If your toilet at home is facing Mecca, you're up shit creek, so to speak. If you're a good Muslim, you'll remodel the bathroom so the toilet faces New York, Rome, or Salt Lake City instead.)  <blockquote>Facing or keeping the back towards the Qibla whilst going to the toilet is forbidden. We should take care of this at all times. If the toilet is facing the Qibla in your home then try and sacrifice some money and have it changed as you will be sinning every time you use the toilet. (<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572#1">1</a>)</blockquote><blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="defecate"></a>“<b>Your Prophet has taught you everything, even how to defecate!</b>” Salmaan said: “Yes, he forbade us to face the qiblah when urinating or defecating…” (2)</blockquote><blockquote>The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you sits down to answer the call of nature, he should not face the qiblah or turn his back towards it.” (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>When you're doing your business, don't touch your penis with your right hand. Use your left hand to hold it while peeing and to wipe your butt after you're done pooping. (<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572#3">Don't let your right hand know what your left hand is doing.</a>)  <blockquote>The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said that, 'None of you should hold the private parts with the right hand while urinating, or wipe with the right hand in the privy. (1)</blockquote><blockquote>[T]he Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you wipes himself, he should not use his right hand.” (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Don't use the right hand for cleaning either. It's pretty much useless while in the bathroom. (I try to keep mine over my head or behind my back.)  <blockquote>Do not use the right hand for cleansing (Istinja) as it goes against the Sunnah unless you have a problem with your right hand. We use the right hand for eating, drinking, shaking hands, reading the Qur'an etc. we should use the other hand for cleaning, holding shoes, cleaning the nose etc. (1)</blockquote><blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="wudoo"></a>The Prophet’s wife Hafsah (may Allaah be pleased with her) reported that <b>the Prophet</b> (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) <b>used to use his right hand for</b> eating, drinking, <b>making wudoo</b> (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wudu">?</a>), getting dressed, and giving and taking things, and he used to use his left hand for other things. (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Wash and wipe an odd number of times.  <blockquote>Wash in odd numbers i.e. 1, 3, 5 or 7 times. (1)</blockquote><blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="three"></a><b>[T]he Prophet</b> (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) <b>used to wash his posterior three times.</b> Ibn ‘Umar said: “We did this too and found it to be healing and cleansing.” (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Do all your clean-up with just three fingers: the middle fingers of your left hand. (May take some practice.)  <blockquote>Use the left hand middle three fingers for cleanings. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>For an easier pee, try pushing on your left leg.  <blockquote>Put slight pressure on the left leg it makes it relieving easier. (1)</blockquote></li>
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<li>Pee sitting down. Whoever pees standing up will go straight to hell when they die. (Muhammad's nine year old wife, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#Age_at_marriage">Aisha</a>, swore he was a sit-down pee-er.)  <blockquote>Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) says that, 'Whosoever says that the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) would stand up and urinate do not believe them, he would urinate but sitting down ... <b>One of the reasons of the punishment in the grave is because of urinating standing up</b>, Islam has given us a method to follow not only will you relieve yourself but you will be rewarded too. (1)</blockquote></li>
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<li>Don't get any urine on yourself. If you do you, Allah will torture you in hell for it.  As the Prophet of Pee said so well, <b>"Most of the punishment of the grave will be because of urine."</b>  <blockquote>Once the Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) while passing through a graveyard heard the voices of two persons who were being punished in their graves. The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, 'These two persons are being punished not for something major (it is not difficult to be save from it).' The Prophet (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) then added, 'Yes! (<b>They are being tortured for a major sin</b>) Indeed, one of them never saved himself from <b>being soiled with</b> his <b>urine</b>... (1) </blockquote><blockquote>He should be careful to remove all impurity after answering the call of nature, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned against being careless in cleaning oneself after urinating: “Most of the punishment of the grave will be because of urine.” (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Females should wipe with the heel of the left palm, being careful not to separate the legs too much.  <blockquote>The sister should cleanse themselves with the lower palm of the left hand and do not separate the legs to wide. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Males should hold the penis from the top with the left hand index finger and thumb, gently milking it until all the drops come out.  <blockquote>When cleaning yourself, males should hold their penis from the top with the left hand index finger and the thumb. Gently work your way down (as if milking an animal) so if drops are left they will come out. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Whatever you do, be sure to get that last drop out. Force the little bugger if you have to.  <blockquote>After performing urination, if you feel that another drop of urine will come, then it is wajib for you to perform 'Istibrao' meaning after urination to perform some act that would force the urine left inside, to come out . (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>First wash the front of the penis and then the back.   <blockquote>First wash the front then the back. (1)</blockquote></li>
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<li>In all of this, try hard not to even look at your penis. Looking at your own penis can cause severe memory loss.  <blockquote><b>Do not look at your private parts as there is a chance of the memory becoming weak</b>. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>When you finally force that last drop out and you've washed your penis, front and back, wash your hands three times.  <blockquote>After you have relieved yourself, wash your hands up to the wrists thrice. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>Don't talk in the bathroom. If someone else talks, cough three times. (God doesn't like it when people talk while not fully clothed.)  <blockquote>One should not talk in the toilet without absolute necessity but if a person outside is calling and does not know then cough thrice to make them aware. ... When two people talk when the body is uncovered Allah (The Exalted) is displeased. (1)</blockquote><blockquote>[A] man passed by the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) whilst he was urinating, and greeted him. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to him: “If you see me in this state, do not greet me, because if you do, I will not respond.” (Reported by Ibn Maajah, 346; see also Saheeh al-Jaami’, 575). The majority of scholars say that it is makrooh (disliked) to speak in the restroom unnecessarily. (2)</blockquote></li>
<li>Wipe your butt with your left hand, using at least three pebbles. But don't use bones or dung, for, as Muhammad said, "They are the food of the jinn."  <blockquote>Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that he used to carry a vessel for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to do wudoo’ and clean himself after answering the call of nature. Whilst he was following him, he (the Prophet) asked, “Who is that?” He said: “I am Abu Hurayrah.” He said: “Get me some stones I can use to clean myself, but do not bring me any bones or dung.” So I brought him some stones, carrying them in the hem of my garment, and placed them by his side, then I went away. When he had finished, I came back and asked him, <b>“What is wrong with bones and dung?” He said: “They are the food of the jinn.”</b> (2)</blockquote><blockquote><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="stones"></a>No one shall make "Estinjaa" without using three stones. ... The prophet SAAWS asked his servant (Abdullah Ibn Masood) to bring him three stones for "Estinja", Ibn Masood RAA only found two stones so he brought him a piece of animal's droppings (dung) that was dry.  When the prophet saw it, he threw it away and said that it is Najasah (impure). ... "Salman was once asked: Your prophet teaches you everything, even how to relieve yourselves? Salman said: Certainly.... <b>he forbade us</b> from facing the Qiblah while doing so, from cleaning ourselves with our right hand, and <b>from cleaning ourselves with less than three stones.</b> (3)</blockquote></li>
<li>When you're done, wash your private parts with water. (Muhammad didn't have to do this, though, because his pee was special.)  <blockquote>Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) narrates that, 'The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) went to answer the call of nature, 'Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) bought some water. The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, 'What is this'' He replied, 'Water for cleansing (Istinja).' <b>The Messenger of Allah</b> (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) <b>said, 'It has not been made necessary (Wajib) upon me after urinating to cleanse myself with water.</b>'(1)</blockquote></li>
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<li>Watch out for jinns and devils. They like to hang out in bathrooms and mess with your private parts.  <blockquote>[T]he Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, '<b>These toilets are peopled by Jinn and devils</b>, so when one of you goes there say, 'I seek protection in you from the male and female devil.'' Meaning pray the supplication before entering the toilet.  <br />
The Messenger of Allah (may Allah bless him and grant him peace) said, <b>'When one of you intends to go to the toilet then recite 'Bismillah' a veil will be placed between the jinn and the parts of your body.'</b> This should be recited before entering the toilet. (1) </blockquote></li>
<li>When you're all done, leave with your right foot.   <blockquote>When leaving the toilet one should step out with the right foot. (1)</blockquote></li>
<li>After leaving, say a little prayer to the toilet god.  <blockquote>Once outside the toilet read this supplication: 'O Allah I seek Your pardon. All praises are due to Allah who has taken away from me discomfort and granted me relief.' (1)</blockquote><blockquote>When leaving the toilet, he should say: “Ghufraanak (I seek Your forgiveness).” (2)</blockquote></li>
<a name="devils"></a><li>If you fail to follow any of these rules, the invisible bathroom devils will give you some sort of mental illness.  <blockquote>We should try and learn these short supplications and practise them too. <b>If we do not seek Allah's</b> (The Exalted) <b>protection from the devils, then there is a chance we can be affected with mental illnesses from the devils.</b> We can not see the devils and when you can not see your enemy they are more dangerous. (1)</blockquote></li>
</ol>So you see what I mean. If you follow all those rules every time you go to the bathroom, you won't have much time for anything else.  <br />
<hr /><a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="1">1</a> <a href="http://www.zikr.co.uk/content/view/72/113/">Sunnah of Going to the Bathroom (Toilet)</a>  <br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="2">2</a> <a href="http://islamqa.info/en/ref/2532">Muslim Bathroom Etiquette</a>  <br />
<a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572" name="3">3</a> <a href="http://www.themodernreligion.com/basic/charac/essays_Bathroom_Etiquette.htm">Istinjaa - Bathroom Etiquette</a><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-9110998588178347824?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Tebow 136: God&#8217;s message from last night&#8217;s game</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In last week's overtime win against the Steelers, Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards. And, of course, believers everywhere immediately knew that God was trying to tell us all something. 

You see, God carefully arranged (fixed) the game so that Tebow's pass...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In last week's overtime win against the Steelers, <a href="http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gameon/post/2012/01/tell-us-what-kind-of-game-will-tim-tebow-have-tonight/1">Tim Tebow threw for 316 yards</a>. And, of course, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/15/focus-on-the-family-unveils-john-316-during-broncos-patriots-game_n_1207547.html">believers everywhere immediately knew that God was trying to tell us all something</a>. 

</p><p>You see, God carefully arranged (fixed) the game so that Tebow's passing yards would match the numbers of his favorite verse -- the only verse that he and his followers seem to know or care much about -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/3.html#16">John 3:16</a>.

</p><p>God, it seems, likes to communicate using Tim Tebow's stats.

</p><p>So what was God saying in last night's game against the Patriots? 

</p><p>Well, God is really into passing yardage, and last night Tebow passed for 136 yards.

</p><p>Which could only mean one thing: God wants us all to read and obey a particular Bible verse involving the digits in the number 136.

</p><p>After a careful check of the Bible, I think I know what verse God had in mind: <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/13.html#6" title="SAB: Deuteronomy 31:6-10"><b>Deuteronomy 13:6</b></a> (and following verses).

</p><p>Here's what God says in the passage beginning with that verse:

<blockquote>
<b>13:6</b> If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;

<p>13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:

</p><p>13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.

</p><p>13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die.
</p></blockquote>

</p><p>God wants us to stone to death our family and friends, without pity (God hates pity), if they encourage us to worship the wrong god. (Which, of course, would include any Mormons, Catholics, Jews, Muslims, etc.)

</p><p>I can't wait to see Tebow's eye-black for next season's opening game!

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		<title>Mitt Romney and the Curse of Blackness</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 03:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obey Hendricks has a great article at HuffingtonPost entitled, "Mitt Romney and the Curse of Blackness." Here are some excerpts.

...there is something about Mitt Romney's religion that I find deeply troubling, particularly in light of the possibility ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Obey Hendricks has <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/obery-m-hendricks-jr-phd/mitt-romney-curse-blackness_b_1200470.html?ref=religion">a great article</a> at HuffingtonPost entitled, "Mitt Romney and the Curse of Blackness." Here are some excerpts.

<blockquote>...there is something about Mitt Romney's religion that I find deeply troubling, particularly in light of the possibility that he could become the next president of this nation. What concerns me is this: the Book of Mormon, the book that Mitt Romney and all Mormons embrace as divinely revealed scripture ... declares that black people are cursed. That's right. Cursed. And not only accursed, but lazy and aesthetically ugly to boot.

<p>...the Book of Morman says it explicitly and in numerous passages: black people are cursed by God and our dark skin is the evidence of our accursedness. Here are a few examples:

</p><p>And the Lord had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/5.html#21" title="BOM: 2 Nephi 5:21">2 Nephi 5:21</a>).

</p><p>And I beheld, after they had dwindled in unbelief they became a dark and loathsome and a filthy people, full of idleness and all manner of abominations (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/1ne/12.html#23" title="BOM: 1 Nephi 12:23">1 Nephi 12:23</a>).

</p><p>O my brethren, I fear that unless ye shall repent of your sins that their skins will be whiter than yours, when ye shall be brought with them before the throne of God. (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/jacob/3.html#8" title="BOM: Jacob 3:8">Jacob 3:8</a>).

</p><p>And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob, and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/alma/3.html#6" title="BOM: Alma 3:6">Alma 3: 6</a>).

</p><p>...at no time has Mitt Romney ever publicly indicated that he seriously questioned the divine inspiration of the Book of Mormon's teachings about race, much less that he has repudiated them. It is true that in a 2008 Meet the Press interview with the late Tim Russert, Romney did vigorously assert his belief in equal rights for all Americans in every facet of life. As part of that narrative, he cited his parents' "tireless" advocacy for blacks' civil rights, including the dramatic exit of his father, Michigan Governor George Romney, from the 1964 Republican convention as a protest against nominee Barry Goldwater's racial politics. He also shared that he wept when he learned of Spencer Kimball's aforementioned revelation. Yet from Romney's remarks it is not clear whether he wept for joy because Mormonism was eschewing its segregationist policies or if he wept from relief that the announcement promised to quiet the public outrage that those policies were causing. And significantly, while he recited his parents' efforts to confront racial injustice, Mitt Romney pointed to no such activities of his own.

</p><p>...Mitt Romney himself owes it to America to address the issue. Why? Because Romney was tutored into adulthood by a holy book that declares that all Americans like me are cursed by God. And he is not only a believer; he has served as a leader in his faith.

</p><p>....when <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcw0woPX5VY" title="Mitt Romney on Mormon Racism">Tim Russert invited Romney to repudiate his Church's racist legacy on Meet the Press, Romney refused.</a>

</p><p>That is why, Mr. Romney, as an American citizen whose president you seek to become, I must insist that you honestly and forthrightly attest to me and all Americans of goodwill that you actually can be my president, too, fully and completely. You can accomplish this by publicly disavowing the portions of your holy book that so sorely denigrate the humanity of me, my loved ones and all people of black African descent.

</p><p>It is incumbent that you do this, candidate Romney, for the sake of all Americans. 

</p></blockquote>

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		<title>194 ways to get yourself saved</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[17 December 2011 update: Found a new way to get saved from the Book of Tobit. (May only work for Catholics.)


Also, teavee has found a few others that I've added to the list.



Fundamentalist, born-again Christians love to say that there's only one w...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[17 December 2011 update: Found <a href="http://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=26149572#tobit" title="Give alms to the poor.">a new way to get saved</a> from <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/tobit/1.html" title="SAB: Tobit">the Book of Tobit</a>. (May only work for Catholics.)

<br />
Also, <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/08/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html?showComment=1324186858326#c4233807148240231744">teavee</a> has found a few others that I've added to the list.

<br />
<hr />
<a href="http://chronicle.augusta.com/life/your-faith/2010-07-23/only-way-heaven-spelled-out-bible" title="Only way to heaven is spelled out in Bible">Fundamentalist, born-again Christians love to say</a> that there's only one way to get saved. But if you believe the Bible, there's a lot more than that. Here are the ways that I've found so far. Let me know if I've missed any and I'll add them to the list.

<br />
<ol>
<li><b>Say the right things.</b>

   <blockquote>
For by thy words thou shalt be justified. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/12.html#37">Matthew 12:37</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do the right things. (Be a do-gooder.)</b>

   <blockquote>
And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/5.html#29">John 5:29</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
I the Lord ... give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jer/17.html#10">Jeremiah 17:10</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
For we must all appear before the jugment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things done in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2cor/5.html#10">2 Corinthians 5:10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe the right things.</b>

   <blockquote>
A man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/3.html#28">Romans 3:28</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Therefore, being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/5.html#1">Romans 5:1</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
A man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gal/2.html#16">Galatians 2:16</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
For by grace are ye saved through faith. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/eph/2.html#8">Ephesians 2:8</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do and believe the right things.</b>
 
   <blockquote>
Faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#17">James 2:17</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Work your way to heaven.</b>

<blockquote>
For you render to each one according to his works. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/62.html#12">Psalm 62:12</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/16.html#27">Matthew 16.27</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/20.html#12">Revelation 20:12-13</a>
   </blockquote>
<blockquote>
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2cor/11.html#15">2 Corinthians 11:15</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
The Father, who without partiality judges according to each one's work. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/1.html#17">1 Peter 1:17</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#14">James 2:14</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#17">17</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#20">20</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#24">24</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#26">26</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
I will give unto every one of you according to your works. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/2.html#23">Revelation 2:23</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work. -- 
   <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/22.html#12">Revelation 22:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Burn your work.</b>

<blockquote>
If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/3.html#15">1 Corinthians 3:15</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Work it out with fear and trembling.</b>

<blockquote>
Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/phil/2.html#12"> Philippians 2:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be hungry now and never get full.</b>

<blockquote>
Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. ...  Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#21">Luke 6:21, 24</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hunger and thirst after righteousness.</b>

<blockquote>
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#6">Matthew 5:6</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do what is lawful and right.</b>

   <blockquote>
When the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness ... and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/18.html#27">Ezekiel 18:27</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do nothing. Die in Adam; come alive in Christ. </b>

<blockquote>
For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/15.html#22">1 Corinthians 15:22</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Obey the law of the wise.</b>

<blockquote>
The law of the wise is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/13.html#14">Proverbs 13:14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do God's will</b>

<blockquote>
He that doeth the will of God abideth for ever. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/2.html#17">1 John 2:17</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do the will of Jesus' father.</b>

   <blockquote>
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#21">Matthew 7:21</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be a doer of the law.</b>

    <blockquote>
Who will render to each one according to his deeds.  ... For not the hearers of the law are just in the sight of God, but the doers of the law will be justified. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/2.html#6">Romans 2:6, 13</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Call on the name of the Lord.</b> 

   <blockquote>
Whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/2.html#21">Acts 2:21</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/10.html#13">Romans 10:13</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Call upon God.</b>

<blockquote>
As for me, I will call upon God; and the LORD shall save me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/55.html#16">Psalm 55:16</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Trust in the Lord.</b>

<blockquote>
The LORD shall  ... save them, because they trust in him. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/37.html#40">Psalm 37:40</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Seek the Lord and don't forsake him.</b>

<blockquote>
The LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1chr/28.html#9">1 Chronicles 28:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get to know God.</b>

<blockquote>
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/1.html#8">2 Thessalonians 1:8-9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Wait for him.</b>

<blockquote>
Wait on the LORD, and he shall save thee. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/20.html#22">Proverbs 20:22</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/25.html#9">Isaiah 25:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Wait and come for 1335 days.</b>

<blockquote>
Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dan/12.html#12">Daniel 12:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Just look at him.</b>

<blockquote>
Look unto me, and be ye saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/45.html#22">Isaiah 45:22</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get lost.</b>

<blockquote>
The Son of man is come to save that which was lost.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#11">Matthew 18:11</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/19.html#10">Luke 19:10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get scourged.</b>

<blockquote>
Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/12.html#6">Hebrews 12:6</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get tortured.</b>

<blockquote>
"Others were tortured ... that they might obtain a better resurrection." -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/11.html#35">Hebrews 11:35</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get lucky.</b>

<blockquote>
I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. ... Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. ... Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/9.html#15">Romans 9:15-22</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hope.</b>

<blockquote>
For we are saved by hope.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/8.html#23"> Romans 8:24</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Repent.</b>

<blockquote>
Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#3">Luke 13:3</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#5">5</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Overcome.</b>

<blockquote>
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will 
I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
 -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/2.html#7">Revelation 2:7</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
 -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/2.html#11">Revelation 2:11</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will 
 confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 
 -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/3.html#5">Revelation 3:5</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God ... and I will write upon him the name of my God,
 and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem ... and I will write upon him my new name. -- 
 <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/3.html#12">Revelation 3:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be so darned wicked.</b>

<blockquote>
When the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/18.html#27">Ezekiel 18:27</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't offend the little ones.</b>

<blockquote>
But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#6">Matthew 18:6</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/9.html#14">Mark 9:14</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/17.html#2">Luke 17:2</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be filthy or naughty; receive the engrafted word.</b>

<blockquote>
Lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
 -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/1.html#21">James 1:21</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Walk upright.</b>

<blockquote>
Whoso walketh uprightly shall be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/28.html#18">Proverbs 28:18</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Endure temptation.</b>

<blockquote>
Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life.  -- 
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/1.html#12">James 1:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't lust.</b>

<blockquote>
Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/1.html#15">James 1:15</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Bridle your tongue.</b>

<blockquote>
If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/1.html#26">James 1:26</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe in Jesus.</b>   

   <blockquote>
Whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/3.html#16">John 3:16</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
I am the resurrection, and the life: he that
    believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live. And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. -- 
    <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/11.html#25">John 11:25-26</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe on Jesus.</b>   

   <blockquote>
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/3.html#36">John 3:36</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#47">John 6:47</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/16.html#31">Acts 16:31</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>See Jesus and believe on him.</b>

<blockquote>
Every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#40">John 6:40</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Confess with your mouth "Jesus is Lord" and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead.</b>
 
   <blockquote>
If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/10.html#9">Romans 10:9</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Confess Jesus before men.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#32">Matthew 10:32</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/12.html#8">Luke 12:8</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Obey Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
And [Jesus] being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/5.html#9">Hebrews 5:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hear the words of Jesus and believe in whoever sent him.</b>
   
<blockquote>
He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/5.html#24">John 5:24</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hear and do the sayings of Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#24">Matthew 7:24</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Keep Jesus' saying. </b>

<blockquote>
If a man keep my saying, he shall never see death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/8.html#51">John 8:51</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Drink Jesus' water.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/4.html#14">John 4:14</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get saved by the grace of Jesus.</b>
   
   <blockquote>
Through the grace of the LORD Jesus Christ we shall be saved. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/15.html#11">Acts 15:11</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be dead with Jesus.</b>

   <blockquote>
It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him: -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2tim/2.html#11">2 Timothy 2:11</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be born again.</b>

   <blockquote>
Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/3.html#3">John 3:3</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be born of water and the spirit.</b>

   <blockquote>
Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/3.html#5">John 3:5</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be spiritually minded.</b>
   
   <blockquote>
To be spiritually minded is life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/8.html#6">Romans 8:6</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe Paul's gospel.</b>

<blockquote>
Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/15.html#1">1 Corinthians 15:1-2</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Listen to Peter's words.</b> (They will save you and your whole familiy!)

<blockquote>
Peter ... shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved. 
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/11.html#13">Acts 11:13-14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe and be baptized.</b>
  
   <blockquote>
He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/16.html#16">Mark 16:16</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Just get baptized (you can keep the filth of the flesh).</b>

<blockquote>
Baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh).   -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/3.html#21">1 Peter 3:21</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Have a contrite spirit.</b>

<blockquote>
The LORD ...  saveth such as be of a contrite spirit. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/34.html#18">Psalm 34:18</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Have the Son of God.</b>

<blockquote>
God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/5.html#11">1 John 5:11-12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be deluded by God.</b>

<blockquote>
God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/2.html#11">2 Thessalonians 2:11-12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be blinded by God.</b>

<blockquote>
Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded. ... God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day. ... Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#7">Romans 11:7-10</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Bear good fruit.</b>

<blockquote>
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#19">Matthew 7:19</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/3.html#9">Luke 3:9</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#9">13:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be grafted in.</b>

<blockquote>
And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#23">Romans 11:23</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be chosen, not just called.</b>

   <blockquote>
For many are called, but few are chosen. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/22.html#14">Matthew 22:14</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/20.html#16">20:16</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/2.html#13">2 Thessalonians 2:13</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be perfect.</b>

   <blockquote>
Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#48">Matthew 5:48</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be meek.</b>

<blockquote>
When God arose to judgment, to save all the meek of the earth. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/76.html#9">Psalm 76:9</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#5">Matthew 5:5</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be washed by the Holy Ghost.</b>
 
   <blockquote>
Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/tit/3.html#5">Titus 3:5</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get your sins remitted by someone who has received the Holy Ghost. (Or who has been 
breathed on by Jesus)</b>

<blockquote>
And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whosesoever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/20.html#22">John 20:22-23</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be pure in heart.</b>

  <blockquote>
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#8">Matthew 5:8</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be upright in heart.</b>

  <blockquote>
My defence is of God, which saveth the upright in heart. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/7.html#10">Psalm 7:10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be converted and become like a little child.</b>

   <blockquote>
Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#3">Matthew 18:3</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html#15">Mark 10:15</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be a saint.</b>

<blockquote>
The LORD ... forsaketh not his saints; they are preserved for ever.. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/37.html#28">Psalm 37:28</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be a child of the needy.</b>

<blockquote>
He shall save the children of the needy.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/72.html#4">Psalm 72:4</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be persecuted for righteousness sake.</b>

 <blockquote>
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#10">Matthew 5:10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be righteous. </b>

 <blockquote>
Righteousness delivereth from death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/10.html#2">Proverbs 10:2</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/11.html#4">11:4</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/25.html#46">Matthew 25:46</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be more righteous than the scribes and Pharisees. </b>

<blockquote>
Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#20">Matthew 5:20</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Forsake all that you have.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/14.html#33">Luke 14:33</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hate your own life.</b>

   <blockquote>
The man who loves his life will lose it, while the man who hates his life in this world will keep it for eternal life. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/12.html#25">John 12:25</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Lose your life.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/17.html#33">Luke 17:33</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Lose your life for Christ's sake.</b>

   <blockquote>
For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#39">Matthew 10:39</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/16.html#25">16:25</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/8.html#35">Mark 8:35</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/9.html#24">Luke 9:24</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/17.html#33">17:33</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Belong to a household that has at least one believer.</b>

   <blockquote>
And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/16.html#31">Acts 16:31</a>
   </blockquote>
<blockquote>
For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/7.html#14">1 Corinthians 7:14</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get saved by your spouse.</b>

 <blockquote>
For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife? -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/7.html#16">1 Corinthians 7:16</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Follow the commandments (at least some of them).</b>
   
  <blockquote>
If you want to enter into life, keep the commandments. He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#17">Matthew 19:17-19</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
And when he was gone forth into the way, there came one running, and kneeled to him, and asked him, Good Master, what shall I do that I may inherit eternal life? ... Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud not, Honour thy father and mother. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html#17">Mark 10:17-19</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/22.html#14">Revelation 22:14</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Keep some of the commandments, give all your money to the poor, and follow Jesus.</b>

   <blockquote>
And a certain ruler asked him, saying, Good Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? ...
   Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother. And he said, All these have I kept from my youth up.

   ...thou one thing: sell all that thou hast, and distribute unto the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me.-- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/18.html#18">Luke 18:18-22</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.</b>   

   <blockquote>
Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/14.html#12">Revelation 14:12</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Do the commandments and teach others to do them.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#19">Matthew 5:19</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Sow to the Spirit.</b>

<blockquote>
He that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gal/6.html#8">Galatians 6:8</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Endure to the end.</b>

 <blockquote>
He that endureth to the end shall be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#22">Matthew 10:22</a>,
 <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/24.html#13">24:13</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/13.html#13">Mark 13:13</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Give diligence.</b>

<blockquote>
Give diligence to make your calling and election sure. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2pet/1.html#10">2 Peter 1:10</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="die">Wait until you die and then have the Mormons baptize you</a> (after you're dead).</b>
 
   <blockquote>
Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/15.html#29">1 Corinthians 15:29</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Wait until you die and then hear the voice of the Son of God.</b>

   <blockquote>
The dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/5.html#25">John 5:25</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be faithful unto death.</b>

   <blockquote>
Be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/2.html#10">Revelation 2:10</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get buried with Jesus by being baptized into death.</b>

<blockquote>
We are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/6.html#4">Romans 6:4-5</a>   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Always wear a wedding garment.</b>

  <blockquote>
And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/22.html#11">Matthew 22:11-13</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't get married. (Married people don't go to heaven.)</b>

<blockquote>
They which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/20.html#35">Luke 20:35</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Have lots of babies (and be faithful, charitable, holy, and sober). </b>

 <blockquote>
And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/2.html#14">1 Timothy 2:14-15</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Become a eunuch for the kingdom of heaven's sake.</b>

<blockquote>
There be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#12">Matthew 19:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't defile yourself with women. (Be a virgin male.)</b>

 <blockquote>
...the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were
 not defiled with women; for they are virgins.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/14.html#4">Revelation 14:4</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't love your family more than Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#37">Matthew 10:37</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Abandon your home and family for Jesus' name's sake.</b>

 <blockquote>
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#29">Matthew 19:29</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html#29">Mark 10:29-30</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/18.html#29">Luke 18:29-30</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Hate your father, mother, wife, children, brothers, sisters, and your own life.</b>

 <blockquote>
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/14.html#26">Luke 14:26</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't hate your brother.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/3.html#15">1 John 3:15</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Ask your parents to beat you with a rod.</b>

<blockquote>
Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/23.html#13">Proverbs 23:13-14</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Receive a child in the name of Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever shall receive this child in my name receiveth me: and whosoever shall receive me receiveth him that sent me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/9.html#48">Luke 9:48a</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#5">Matthew 18:5</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Receive a Christian.</b>

<blockquote>
He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#40">Matthew 10:40</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Receive a prophet in the name of a prophet.</b>

<blockquote>
He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#41">Matthew 10:41</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Receive a righteous man in the name of a righteous man.</b>

<blockquote>
He that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#41">Matthew 10:41</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Receive the gift of eternal life from God through Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/6.html#23">Romans 6:23</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't despise government or walk after flesh.</b>

<blockquote>
The Lord knoweth how ... to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:  But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2pet/2.html#9">2 Peter 2:9-10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't resist the powers that be.</b>

<blockquote>
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.  Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/13.html#1">Romans 13:2</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Mortify the deeds of your body.</b>

<blockquote>
If ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/8.html#13">Romans 8:13</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Wash your wicked heart.</b>

<blockquote>
Wash thine heart from wickedness, that thou mayest be saved.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jer/4.html#14">Jeremiah 4:14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Wash your face and anoint your head when you fast.</b>

<blockquote>
When thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;  hat thou appear not unto men to fast, but unto thy Father which is in secret: and thy Father, which seeth in secret, shall reward thee openly. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#17">Matthew 6:17-18</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Heed yourself and the doctrine.</b>

<blockquote>
Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/4.html#16">1 Timothy 4:16</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get saved by Jesus' name.</b>

<blockquote>
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name [beside's Jesus'] under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/4.html#12">Acts 4:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get saved by God's name.</b>

<blockquote>
Save me, O God, by thy name.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/54.html#1">Psalm 54:1</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Get saved by God's shining face.</b>

<blockquote>
Turn us again, O God, and cause thy face to shine; and we shall be saved.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/80.html#3">Psalm 80:3</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/80.html#7">7</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/80.html#19">19</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="presence"></a>Get saved by the angel of his presence.</b>

<blockquote>
The angel of his presence saved them. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/63.html#9">Isaiah 63:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't doubt.</b>

<blockquote>
He that doubteth is damned. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/14.html#23">Romans 14:23</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't fall away after you're saved. </b>

<blockquote>
For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/6.html#4">Hebrews 6:4-6</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't eat your own vomit.</b>

<blockquote>
For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2pet/2.html#21">2 Peter 2:21-22</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't blaspheme the Holy Ghost</b>

<blockquote>
He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/3.html#29">Mark 3:29</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/12.html#31">Matthew 12:31-32</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/12.html#10">Luke 12:10</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't let God make you wicked.</b>

<blockquote>
The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/16.html#4">Proverbs 16:4</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be converted from the error of your ways.</b>

<blockquote>
Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/5.html#20">James 5:20</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="Sanford"></a>Turn yourself over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh so your spirit may be saved. (For fornicators only.)</b>
 
<blockquote>
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you ... deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/5.html#1">1 Corinthians 5:1-5</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="mammon"></a>Make friends with the mammon of unrighteousness.</b> 

<blockquote>
Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/16.html#9">Luke 16:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="feast&quot;"></a>Make a feast for the poor, maimed, lame, and blind.</b>

<blockquote>
But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/14.html#13">Luke 14:13-14:</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Enter at the strait gate.</b>

 <blockquote>
Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#23">Luke 13:23-24</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Enter through the Jesus door.</b>

<blockquote>
I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/10.html#9">John 10:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="return"></a>Return and Rest.</b>

<blockquote>
In returning and rest shall ye be saved. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/30.html#15">Isaiah 30:15</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't look back.</b>

<blockquote>
Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/9.html#62">Luke 9:62</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="truth-telling"></a>Become a truth-telling child of God.</b>

<blockquote>
Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/63.html#8">Isaiah 63:8</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Become an Israeli citizen.</b>

<blockquote>
Israel shall be saved in the LORD with an everlasting salvation. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/is/45.html#17">Isaiah 45:17</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness 
from Jacob. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#26">Romans 11:26</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Obtain mercy through Jewish unbelief.</b>

<blockquote>
For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their [Jewish] unbelief. -- 
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#30">Romans 11:30</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
God hath concluded them [the Jews] all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. -- 
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#32">Romans 11:32</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be an unbelieving Jew.</b>

<blockquote>
Even so have these [Jews] also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#31">Romans 11:31</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be a Jew.</b>

<blockquote>
But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.  -- 
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/8.html#12">Matthew 8:12</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be a serpent or a viper, and make sure none of your ancestors were prophet killers.</b>

 <blockquote>
Ye are the children of them which killed the prophets ... Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/23.html#31">Matthew 23:31-33</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be an unrighteous fornicator, idolater, adulterer, effeminate, thief, covetous, drunkard, reviler, extortioner, or an abuser of yourself with mankind.</b>

<blockquote>
The unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/6.html#9">1 Corinthians 6:9-10</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be fearful, unbelieving, abominable, murdering, whore mongering,
a sorcerer, an idolater, or a liar.</b>

<blockquote>
The fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/21.html#8">Revelation 21:8</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Fear God.</b>

<blockquote>
The fear of the LORD is a fountain of life, to depart from the snares of death. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pr/14.html#27">Proverbs 14:27</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Fear God and cry a lot while praying.</b>

<blockquote>
[Jesus] who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/5.html#7">Hebrews 5:7</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't let your eye become evil.</b>

<blockquote>
But if thine eye be evil, thy whole body shall be full of darkness. If therefore the light that is in thee be darkness, how great is that darkness!  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#23">Matthew 6:23</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Pluck out your eye if it offends you.</b>

<blockquote>
And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#29">Matthew 5:29-30</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#8">18:8-9</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/9.html#43">Mark 9:43-49</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Cut off your right hand if it offends you.</b>

<blockquote>
If thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#29">Matthew 5:29-30</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/18.html#8">18:8-9</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/9.html#43">Mark 9:43-49</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't let your left hand know what your right hand is doing.</b>

<blockquote>
Let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:  That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#4">Matthew 6:4-5</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be ordained to eternal life.</b>

<blockquote>
As many as were ordained to eternal life believed.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/acts/13.html#48">Acts 13:48</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be drawn by by the Father.</b>

<blockquote>
No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#44">John 6:44</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be elected by God before you're born.</b>

<blockquote>
For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/9.html#11">Romans 9:11</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Knowing, brethren beloved, your election of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1th/1.html#4">1 Thessalonians 1:4</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be ashamed of Jesus.</b>

 <blockquote>
Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.   -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/8.html#38">Mark 8:38</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/9.html#26">Luke 9:26</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't let anyone see you do anything good.</b>

<blockquote>
Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#1">Matthew 6:1</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't let anyone say anything nice about you.</b>

<blockquote>
Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#26">Luke 6:26</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't love the world or the things in it.</b>

<blockquote>
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/2.html#15">1 John 2:15</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't be a friend to the world.</b>

<blockquote>
Whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/4.html#4">James 4:4</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be given by the Father and come to the Son.</b>

<blockquote>
All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#37">John 6:37</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Come to the Father by Jesus.</b>

<blockquote>
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/14.html#6">John 14:6</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be given by God to Jesus (or whatever).</b>

<blockquote>
These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/17.html#1">John 17:1-2</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be saved by Jesus' life (if you're a friend) or by his death (if your an enemy).</b>

<blockquote>
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/5.html#10">Romans 5:10</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't get circumcised.</b>

<blockquote>
Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing ... ye are fallen from grace. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gal/5.html#2">Galatians 5:2-4</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be dead in your sins and uncircumcised flesh, and then let God quicken you with Christ.</b>

 <blockquote>
But God ...  when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/eph/2.html#4">Ephesians 2:4-5</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be chosen from the beginning.</b>

<blockquote>
But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/2.html#13">2 Thessalonians 2:13</a>
   </blockquote>
<blockquote>
And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/col/2.html#13">Colossians 2:13</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be predestinated by God.</b> 

 <blockquote>
For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate ... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/8.html#29">Romans 8:29-30</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
He hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love. Having predestinated us ... according to the good pleasure of his will. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/eph/1.html#4">Ephesians 1:4-5</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Give your excess food and clothes to the poor.</b>

<blockquote>
The people asked him [John the Baptist], saying, What shall we do then? He answereth ... He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none;
  and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/3.html#10">Luke 3:10-11</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be poor, not rich.</b> 

<blockquote>
He shall ... save the souls of the needy. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/72.html#13">Psalm 72:13</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. --<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#3">Matthew 5:3</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. ... But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#20">Luke 6:20, 24</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#23">Matthew 19:23-24</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/5.html#1">James 5:1</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be poor in this world, be rich in faith, and love God.</b>

<blockquote>
Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#5">James 2:5</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be sad.</b>

 <blockquote>
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#4">Matthew 5:4</a> </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Cry a lot.</b>

<blockquote>
Then they cried unto the LORD in their trouble, and he saved them.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/107.html#13">Psalm 107:13</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/107.html#19">19</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#21">Luke 6:21</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't laugh.</b>

 <blockquote>
Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#25">Luke 6:25</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be last.</b>

 <blockquote>
But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#30">Matthew 19:30</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/20.html#16">20:16</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html#31">Mark 10:31</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/13.html#30">Luke 13:30</a>
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be least.</b>

<blockquote>
He that is least among you all, the same shall be great.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/9.html#48">Luke 9:48b</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Eat the bread that comes down from heaven.</b>

   <blockquote>
This is the bread which cometh down from heaven, that a man may eat thereof, and not die. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#50">John 6:50</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Eat Jesus' body and drink his blood.</b>

  <blockquote>
Except ye eat the flesh  of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you. Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jn/6.html#53">John 6:53-54</a>
     </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Have faith in Jesus'  blood.</b>

<blockquote>
God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/3.html#25">Romans 3:25</a>
     </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be saved and justified by Jesus' blood.</b>

<blockquote>
Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/5.html#9">Romans 5:9</a>
     </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Make people revile you, persecute you, hate you, avoid you, say bad things about you, and call you names for Jesus' sake.</b>

<blockquote>
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#11">Matthew 5:11</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#22">Luke 6:22-23</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Follow peace and holiness with all men.</b>

<blockquote>
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/heb/12.html#14">Hebrews 12:14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Take heaven by force.</b>

<blockquote>
From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/11.html#12">Matthew 11:12</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Believe in the foolishness of preaching.</b>

   <blockquote>
For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/1.html#21">1 Corinthians 1:21</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be innocent.</b>

 <blockquote>
He [God] shall deliver the island of the innocent. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/job/22.html#30">Job 22:30</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="tobit"></a>Give alms to the poor.</b> (May only work for Catholics.)

<blockquote>
Alms deliver from all sin, and from death, and will not suffer the soul to go into darkness. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/tobit/4.html#11">Tobit 4:11</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Give a cup of water to a Christian.</b>

   <blockquote>
For whosoever shall give you a cup of water to drink in my name, because ye belong to Christ, verily I say unto you, he shall not lose his reward.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/10.html#42">Matthew 10:42</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/9.html#41">Mark 9:41</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Love Christians.</b>

<blockquote>
We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/3.html#14">1 John 3:14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Love your enemies, do good to them, and give them lots of money.</b>

<blockquote>
But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#35">Luke 6:35</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#44">Matthew 5:44-45</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Love God and your neighbor.</b>

   <blockquote>
He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/10.html#26">Luke 10:26-28</a> 
</blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be a peacemaker.</b>

   <blockquote>
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#9">Matthew 5:9</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Feed the hungry, give drink to the thirsty, take in strangers, clothe the naked, visit the sick and imprisoned.</b>

<blockquote>
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/25.html#34">Matthew 25:34-36</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be merciful.</b>

   <blockquote>
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/5.html#7">Matthew 5:7</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/2.html#13">James 2:13</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Forgive people.</b>

<blockquote>
For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#14">Matthew 6:14</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't judge.</b> 

 <blockquote>
Judge not, and ye shall not be judged. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#1">Matthew 7:1</a>,
 <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#37">Luke 6:37</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be humble.</b>

 <blockquote>
He [God] shall save the humble person. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/job/22.html#29">Job 22:29</a>
 </blockquote>
<blockquote>
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#1">Matthew 7:1</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
He that humbleth himself shall be exalted. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/14.html#11">Luke 14:11</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Love the truth.</b>

   <blockquote>
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/2.html#10">2 Thessalonians 2:10</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="do_good"></a>Do good. Avoid evil.</b>

<blockquote>
Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell for evermore. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/37.html#27">Psalm 37:27</a></blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Don't pray in public.</b>

<blockquote>
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.  -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/6.html#5">Matthew 6:5</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Be saved by other people's unbelief. </b><br />(You can have some of mine; I've got plenty.)

<blockquote>
For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/11.html#30">Romans 11:30</a>
 </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b>Just ask.</b> 

 <blockquote>
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/7.html#7">Matthew 7:7-8</a>
   </blockquote>
</li>
<li><b><a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/jCxUdydl55M/28-ways-to-get-yourself-saved.html" name="love">All you need is love.</a></b>
 
   <blockquote>
Love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1jn/4.html#7">1 John 4:7</a></blockquote>
<blockquote>
Wherefore I say unto thee, Her sins, which are many, are forgiven; for she loved much. -- <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/7.html#47">Luke 7:47</a></blockquote>
</li>
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		<title>God hath done these things: The Apocrypha to the Rescue!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've struggled a bit lately with the Book of Esther. 

It is filled with preemptive war and genocidal ethnic cleansing, that the author clearly supported and glorified. But since the book makes no mention of God, directly or indirectly, it's difficult ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/11/esther-killings-do-they-belong-on-gods.html" title="The Esther Killings: Do they belong on God's list?">I've struggled a bit lately</a> with the Book of Esther. 

</p><p>It is filled with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preventive_war">preemptive war</a> and genocidal ethnic cleansing, that the author clearly supported and glorified. But since the book makes no mention of God, directly or indirectly, it's difficult to blame God for the killings -- or claim that he inspired them, or even approved of them, for that matter. (Except in the sense that since God inspired the author of the Book of Esther, he approved of whatever the author approved.)

</p><p>Which is why the apocrypha comes in so handy.

</p><p>Here are the first words of the additions to the Book of Esther, as taken from <a href="http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=19&ch=10&l=4#x">the Catholic Douay-Reims version</a>. 

<blockquote>Then Mardochai said: <b>God hath done these things.</b> <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/1.html" title="SAB Apocrypha: Esther 10:4"></a></blockquote>

</p><p>The folks at <a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/blogspot/NAhLF/~3/Ar1_hyloBYs/drbo.org">DRBO.org</a> add this helpful note to Esther 10:4.

<blockquote>[4] <u>Then Mardochai</u>: Here St. Jerome advertiseth the reader, that what follows is not in the Hebrew, but is found in the septuagint Greek edition, which the seventy-two interpreters translated out of the Hebrew, or added by the inspiration of the Holy Ghost. </blockquote> 

</p><p>So we know that Esther 10:4 was added through the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, and that therefore, God was responsible for the killings in the Book of Esther.<br />
(See also <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/10.html#10">10:10</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/10.html#12">12</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/11.html#12">11:12</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/13.html#8">13:8</a>,
<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/13.html#18">18</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/14.html#1">14:1-2</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/15.html#3">15:3</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/15.html#5">5</a>; <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/16.html#10">16:10-18</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/16.html#21">21</a>)


</p><p>Thank God for the Apocrypha!

<hr />
</p><p>For some time now, I have wanted to add <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/index.html" title="SAB: Apocrypha">the Apocrypha</a> (or what Catholics call the Deutero-canonical books) to the SAB. I've finally started with the book of <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/apocrypha/esther/1.html" title="SAB Apocrypha: Esther">Esther</a>.

</p><p>As I go along, I'll add the apocryphal killings to the list of killings in the Catholic Bible. That way, I'll have two lists: one for the Protestants and one for the Catholics.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-6647982355699393753?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Happy Bo Day!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Dec 2011 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for not posting lately, but I have a good excuse. I've spent the last couple weeks in Hawaii. 

And here's what I have to show for it.





A Bo (or Bodhi) tree, the tree that the Buddha sat under when he achieved enlightenment. 

Well, OK, it wa...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for not posting lately, but I have a good excuse. I've spent the last couple weeks in Hawaii. 

</p><p>And here's what I have to show for it.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/bo.jpg"/>

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/bo_leaf.jpg" width="450"/>

</p><p>A Bo (or Bodhi) tree, the tree that the Buddha sat under when he achieved enlightenment. 

</p><p>Well, OK, it wasn't <i>this</i> tree that Buddha supposedly sat under on the eighth day of the 12th lunar month (December 8th this year, I guess) in 596 BCE while being tempted by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_(demon)">Mara</a> (the Buddhist version of Satan) and his daughters, before driving them all away with an earthquake. But it was a tree of this species: <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Fig">Ficus religiosa</a></i>. <br />(The tree in my picture was taken at the <a href="http://www1.honolulu.gov/parks/hbg/fbg.htm">Foster Botanical Garden</a> in Honolulu.)

</p><p>After getting enlightened, the Buddha stood in front of the sacred tree and stared, without blinking, for an entire week.

</p><p>Me, I just took a picture.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-7653963727207539902?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Christ on a Dog&#8217;s Ass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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Or it might be Muhammad (pb&#38;jbuh). It's hard to tell those two apart.

Via Why Evolution is True

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</p><p>Or it might be Muhammad (pb&jbuh). It's hard to tell those two apart.

</p><p>Via <a href="http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/11/18/jesus-appears-in-a-dog-butt/">Why Evolution is True</a><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-3412730756026535721?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>The Esther Killings: Do they belong on God&#8217;s list?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Nov 2011 03:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Esther is one of the two books in the Bible in which God is not even mentioned (the other is the Song of Solomon). 

Maybe that's why some Bible believers, such as Martin Luther, believed that it should be excluded from the Bible. In Luther's case, how...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Esther is one of the two books in the Bible in which God is not even mentioned (the other is <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sofs/1.html">the Song of Solomon</a>). 

</p><p>Maybe that's why some Bible believers, such as Martin Luther, believed that it should be excluded from the Bible. In Luther's case, however, it probably had more to do with his extreme antisemitism.  Because the point of the Book of Esther, if it has a point, is this: God loves Jews more than everyone else and anyone who has ever had a bad thought about them should be killed. (And <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/search/label/Martin%20Luther">Luther had lots of bad thoughts about Jews</a>.)

</p><p>There is a whole series of killings in Esther, mostly to avenge antisemitism. 
But since the Book of Esther does not mention God's name, it's difficult to blame him directly for these killings. Still, since Esther is included in the Bible, the God of the Bible must approve of the killings, insofar as a nonexistent being can approve of anything. 

</p><p>The Book of Esther also has an important message for women: your job in life is to look pretty and to please, honor, and obey men. If that means dancing naked in front of your husband's drunken guests, dance naked. 
Be an Esther, not a Vashti. (Which is, of course, bad advice. Vashti is the hero of the Book of Esther and she gets my vote for 
<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/04/vashti-best-person-in-bible.html">the best person in the Bible</a>.)

</p><p>So what about the Esther killings? Do they belong on <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html" title="How many has God killed?">God's list</a>? Let me know what you think in the comments.

</p><p>Here's the story.

</p><p>After the Esther wins the dancing-naked-before-the-king contest, she goes on a killing spree.

</p><p>She begins by telling the king to hang two men that her friend (Mordecai) said wanted to kill the king.

<blockquote>Two of the king's chamberlains ... sought to lay hands on the king Ahasuerus. 
And the thing was known to Mordecai, who told it unto Esther the queen; and Esther certified the king ...  And when inquisition was made of the matter, it was found out; therefore they were both hanged on a tree. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/2.html#21" title="SAB: Esther 2:21-23">Esther 2:21-23</a>
</blockquote> 

</p><p>Then, for some strange reason, the king told everyone in the kingdom to bow and show reverence to a guy named Haman.

<blockquote>All the king's servants ... bowed, and reverenced Haman: for the king had so commanded. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/3.html#2" title="SAB: Esther 3:2">Esther 3:2a</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>But Esther's Jewish friend Mordecai refused.

<blockquote>But Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/3.html#2" title="SAB: Esther 3:2b">Esther 3:2b</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>So Haman, did what any proper Bible villain would do: he tried to kill every Jew in the kingdom.

<blockquote>When Haman saw that Mordecai bowed not, nor did him reverence, then was Haman full of wrath ... Wherefore Haman sought to destroy all the Jews that were throughout the whole kingdom. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/3.html#5" title="SAB: Esther 3:5-6">Esther 3:5-6</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Haman offered to give the king 10,000 talents (~300,000 kg) of silver if he would kill all the Jews. And the king said, "OK, that sounds like a good idea. Let's kill all the Jews."

<blockquote>Haman said unto king Ahasuerus ... let it be written that they may be destroyed: and I will pay ten thousand talents of silver.

<p>And the king took his ring from his hand, and gave it unto Haman ... the Jews' enemy. 

</p><p>And the king said unto Haman, The silver is given to thee, the people also, to do with them as it seemeth good to thee. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/3.html#8" title="SAB: Esther 3:8-10">Esther 3:8-10</a>
</p></blockquote>

</p><p>The king sent out a decree to all the provinces declaring a kingdom-wide Kill-the-Jews Day. It was to take place on the 13th day of the 12th month. "All Jews, both young and old, little children and women" were to be killed on that day.

<blockquote>Letters were sent by posts into all the king's provinces, to destroy, to kill, and to cause to perish, all Jews, both young and old, little children and women, in one day, even upon the thirteenth day of the twelfth month. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/3.html#13" title="SAB: Esther 3:13">Esther 3:13</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Haman, at his wife and friends' suggestion, decides to begin by building a 25 meter tall gallows to hang Mordecai on. 

<blockquote>Then said Zeresh his wife and all his friends unto him, Let a gallows be made of fifty cubits high, and to morrow speak thou unto the king that Mordecai may be hanged thereon ... And the thing pleased Haman; and he caused the gallows to be made. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/5.html#14" title="SAB: Esther 5:14">Esther 5:14</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Meanwhile, at one of the king's drunken parties, the king told Esther that he'd give her whatever she wanted, up to half the kingdom.

<blockquote> So the king and Haman came to banquet with Esther the queen. And the king said again unto Esther on the second day at the banquet of wine ... what is thy request? and it shall be performed, even to the half of the kingdom. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/7.html#10" title="SAB: Esther 7:1-3">Esther 7:1-3</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Esther asks the king not to murder all the Jews. And the king says, "Huh? Who is trying to kill the Jews?" (The king had completely forgotten that he had ordered the genocide of the Jews back in chapter 3.)

<blockquote>The king ... said unto Esther ... Who is he, and where is he, that durst presume in his heart to do so? And Esther said, The adversary and enemy is this wicked Haman. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/7.html#5" title="SAB: Esther 7:5">Esther 7:5-6</a>
</blockquote> 

</p><p>So the king hangs Haman high.

<blockquote> So they hanged Haman on the gallows that he had prepared for Mordecai. Then was the king's wrath pacified. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/7.html#10" title="SAB: Esther 7:10">Esther 7:10</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>After hanging Haman at Esther's request, the king gave Esther (and her buddy Mordecai) Haman's ring and house.

<blockquote>The king took off his ring, which he had taken from Haman, and gave it unto Mordecai. And Esther set Mordecai over the house of Haman. 

<p>I have given Esther the house of Haman, and him they have hanged upon the gallows, because he laid his hand upon the Jews. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/8.html#1" title="SAB: Esther 8:1-7">Esther 8:1-7</a>
</p></blockquote>

</p><p>Then, at Esther's request, the king ordered a preemptive strike on all 127 provinces from India to Ethiopia. Everyone who planned to kill Jews will be killed by Jews, along with their wives and children. And all this killing is to take place on a single day -- the day after the first decree ordered all the Jews to be killed. (How are the Jews to figure out who planned to kill them and who didn't? Were they supposed to just kill everyone and let God sort it out? And why did they need to kill the women and children?)

<blockquote>"Mordecai commanded ... the deputies and rulers of the provinces which are from India unto Ethiopia, an hundred twenty and seven provinces ... to destroy, to slay and to cause to perish, all the power of the people and province that would assault them, both little ones and women. 

<p>Upon one day in all the provinces ... the Jews should be ready against that day to avenge themselves on their enemies. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/8.html#9" title="SAB: Esther 8:9-13">Esther 8:9-13</a>
</p></blockquote>

</p><p>On the day when all Jew-haters (and their families) were killed by Jews, "the Jews had light, and gladness, and joy, and honour ... a feast and a good day." (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/8.html#16" title="SAB: Esther 8:16-17a">Esther 8:16-17a</a>)

</p><p>But many of the Jew-haters became Jews rather than be killed for wanting to kill Jews.

<blockquote>Many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/8.html#17" title="SAB: Esther 8:17b">Esther 8:17b</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>So the Jews kill everyone who ever had a bad thought toward them, along with their Jew-hating families.

<blockquote>The Jews had rule over them that hated them. The Jews gathered themselves together in their cities throughout all the provinces ... to lay hand on such as sought their hurt: and no man could withstand them; for the fear of them fell upon all people. <br />
...<br />
The Jews smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and slaughter, and destruction, and did what they would unto those that hated them. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#1" title="SAB: Esther 9:1-5">Esther 9:1-5</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>They killed 500 men in Shushan.

<blockquote>In Shushan the palace the Jews slew and destroyed five hundred men. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#6" title="SAB: Esther 9:6">Esther 9:6</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>They killed the ten sons of Haman.

<blockquote>The ten sons of Haman the son of Hammedatha, the enemy of the Jews, slew they. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#10" title="SAB: Esther 9:10">Esther 9:10</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Esther asks the king to kill all those who planned to kill the Jews and hang the already dead bodies of Haman's ten sons on trees.

<blockquote>The king said unto Esther the queen, The Jews have slain and destroyed five hundred men in Shushan the palace, and the ten sons of Haman ... what is thy request further? ... Then said Esther ... let it be granted to the Jews which are in Shushan to do to morrow also according unto this day's decree, and let Haman's ten sons be hanged. <br />
...<br />
And they hanged Haman's ten sons. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#12" title="SAB: Esther 9:12-13">Esther 9:12-13</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Then the Jews killed another 300 men at Shushan,

<blockquote>The Jews ... slew three hundred men at Shushan. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#15" title="SAB: Esther 9:15">Esther 9:15</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>And 75,000 other Jew-haters.

<blockquote>The other Jews ... slew of their foes seventy and five thousand. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#16" title="SAB: Esther 9:16">Esther 9:16</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>The day after killing all the Jew-haters and their families, the Jews took a day off to party. (This is the origin of the Jewish holiday of Purim.)

<blockquote>On the fourteenth day of the same rested they, and made it a day of feasting and gladness. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#17" title="SAB: Esther 9:17">Esther 9:17</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>And then, at Esther's request, the king hung Haman and his ten sons (again). 

<blockquote>When Esther came before the king, he commanded ... that he [Haman] and his sons should be hanged on the gallows. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#25" title="SAB: Esther 9:25">Esther 9:25</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>After the killings, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/10.html#3" title="SAB: Esther 10:3">"Modecai the Jew was ... great among the Jews ... seeking the wealth of"</a> the Jews. And so ends the Book of Esther.

</p><p>Here is a list of the Esther killings:

<table border="1" cellpadding="5">
<tr>
<th>People killed
</th><th>Number
</th><th>Esther verse
<tr>
<td>The two treasonous chamberlains
</td><td>2
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/2.html#21" title="SAB: Esther 2:21-23">2:21-23</a>
<tr>
<td>Haman
</td><td>1
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/7.html#10" title="SAB: Esther 7:10">7:10</a>
<tr>
<td>Men in Sushan
</td><td>500
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#6" title="SAB: Esther 9:6">9:6</a>
<tr>
<td>Haman's sons
</td><td>10
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#12" title="SAB: Esther 9:12">9:12-13</a>
<tr>
<td>More men in Sushan
</td><td>300
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#15" title="SAB: Esther 9:15">9:15</a>
<tr>
<td>People who planned to kill Jews on Kill-the-Jews Day
</td><td>75,000
</td><td><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/9.html#16" title="SAB: Esther 9:16">9:16</a>
<tr>
<th>Total
</th><th>75,813
<td>
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December 14 note: See <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/12/god-hath-done-these-things-apocrypha-to.html">God hath done these things: The Apocrypha to the Rescue!</a> for the happy resolution to this problem.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-9169841884343611712?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>Eid al-Adha</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today is Eid al-Adha. You know, the day where you're supposed to kill an animal for God in honor of Abraham's willingness to kill his son. 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today is Eid al-Adha. You know, the day where you're supposed to kill an animal for God in honor of Abraham's willingness to kill his son. 

</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eid_ul-Adha#Traditions_and_practices">Hundreds of millions of animals throughout the world will have their throats slit today</a> just to make Allah happy. 

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/eid.jpg" width="500"/>

</p><p>It is amazing how much evil can be caused by an imaginary God.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-5902217151723246526?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>It&#8217;s definitely Muhammad (peanut butter and jelly be upon him)Who else would hang out in a testicular tumor?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<title>Science &amp; Religion: Are They Compatible?The Jerry Coyne / John Haught Debate</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Nov 2011 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[You simply must watch this debate. No excuses. 

Okay, Okay. I know it's kind of long, and you're a busy person. So go ahead and skip the first 28 and half minutes. You won't miss much.

2011 Bale Boone Symposium - Science &#38; Religion: Are They Compatib...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You simply must watch this debate. No excuses. 

</p><p>Okay, Okay. I know it's kind of long, and you're a busy person. So go ahead and skip the first 28 and half minutes. You won't miss much.

</p><p><iframe src="http://player.vimeo.com/video/31505142?title=0&amp;byline=0&amp;portrait=0" width="400" height="225" frameborder="0" webkitAllowFullScreen allowFullScreen></iframe></p><p><a href="http://vimeo.com/31505142">2011 Bale Boone Symposium - Science & Religion: Are They Compatible?</a> from <a href="http://vimeo.com/ukgainescenter">UK Gaines Center</a> on <a href="http://vimeo.com">Vimeo</a>.</p>

<p>For more on the debate controversy, see <a href="http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-video/">Jerry Coyne's blog</a>.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-9190761117788153552?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>The National Guard wants you (If you&#8217;re a Protestant, Bible-believing Christian)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Otherwise, not so much.



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otherwise, not so much.

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		<title>Mitt Romney: The luckiest motherfudger on earth</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 17:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Saving the Seed of Cain from the Flood of Noah</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In my last post I described how Mormon Scripture explains the origin of black people. (They are the seed of Cain.)

Which is all very interesting. But if you are foolish enough to accept that racist explanation, you still have a problem. How did the se...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/10/mark-of-herman-cain-what-mitt-romney.html">my last post</a> I described how Mormon Scripture explains the origin of black people. (They are the seed of Cain.)

</p><p>Which is all very interesting. But if you are foolish enough to accept that racist explanation, you still have a problem. How did the seed of Cain survive Noah's flood?

</p><p>Well, lucky for you, my racist friend, Mormon Scripture has the answer!

</p><p>You've probably seen the pictures of Noah's family. They look a lot like this.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/noahs-family.jpg" width="500"/>

</p><p>A nice, happy, white family. But if they <i>were</i> all white, where'd all the black people come from?

</p><p>And that's where <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Abraham" title="Wikipedia: The Book of Abraham">the Book of Abraham</a> comes in.

</p><p>Unless you're a Mormon, you've probably never heard of the Book of Abraham. It's not in that little blue book that the Mormon missionaries gave you (and that you've never looked at since). And Mormons don't like to talk about it much because it's horribly embarrassing to them. But it's in the Pearl of Great Price and is, therefore, a part of Mormon Scripture.

</p><p>In it we learn that Pharaoh was descended from the testicles of Ham. 

</p><p><blockquote>Pharaoh ...  was a descendant from the loins of Ham, and was ... of the blood of the Canaanites by birth ...  thus the blood of the Canaanites was preserved in the land. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pearl/abraham/1.html#20">Abraham 1:20-22</a></blockquote>

</p><p>(Ham was the guy who saw   his father, Noah, drunk and naked in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/9.html#20" title="SAB: Genesis 9:20-25">Genesis 9:20-25</a>. For this crime, God cursed the descendants of Canaan, Ham's son, with slavery.)

</p><p>Abe also tells us that Egypt was discovered (while it was still under water from the flood) by one of Ham's daughters, Egyptus. (She was named after her mother, Ham's wife, who was also named Egyptus, and who was, apparently, a black woman.)

 </p><p><blockquote>The land of Egypt being first discovered by a woman, who was the daughter of Ham, and the daughter of Egyptus which in the Chaldean signifies Egypt, which signifies that which is forbidden. When this woman discovered the land it was under water, who afterward settled her sons in it; and <b>thus, from Ham, sprang that race which preserved the curse in the land.</b> <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pearl/abraham/1.html#23">Abraham 1:23-24</a></blockquote> 

</p><p>So Pharaoh was the son of Egyptus, who was the daughter of Ham and his wife Egyptyus, from "that race which preserved the curse in the land."

</p><p>According to Mormon Scripture, then, black people are doubly cursed: they are the seed of Cain and the seed of Ham. Cursed by God for Cain's murder of Abel and cursed again because Ham saw his father (Noah) drunk and naked. 

</p><p>God darkened their skin and made them slaves, but that wasn't the worst of it. He also excluded them from the Mormon priesthood. 

 </p><p><blockquote> Pharaoh, the eldest son of Egyptus, the daughter of Ham ... Noah ... cursed him as pertaining to the Priesthood ... Pharaoh <b>being of that lineage by which he could not have the right of Priesthood</b>. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/pearl/abraham/1.html#26">Abraham 1:26-27</a></blockquote>

</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978_Revelation_on_Priesthood">Until he changed his mind in 1978.</a><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-2383727834283293184?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>The mark of (Herman) Cain: What Mitt Romney believes about black people</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It starts with the book of Genesis. 

Remember the story about Adam and Eve, and Cain and Abel? (Genesis 4:1-17)

Adam and Eve have sex, Eve gets pregnant, and Cain ("a man from the Lord") is born.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It starts with the book of Genesis. 

</p><p>Remember the story about Adam and Eve, and Cain and Abel? (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#1" title="SAB: Genesis 4:1-17">Genesis 4:1-17</a>)

</p><p>Adam and Eve have sex, Eve gets pregnant, and Cain ("a man from the Lord") is born.

<blockquote>And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#1" title="SAB: Genesis 4:1">Genesis 4:1</a></blockquote>

</p><p>In the next verse, another son (Abel) is born.

</p><p><blockquote>And she again bare his brother Abel. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#2" title="SAB: Genesis 4:2a">Genesis 4:2a</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Cain becomes a farmer, Abel tends sheep, and each offers a sacrifice to God. Cain 
gave God the fruit of his crops; Abel killed some firstborn sheep and gave God all the fat. God liked the fat more than the fruit. (How could they tell? Did God eat the fat while they watched?)

</p><p><blockquote>Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD ... Abel ... the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering: But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#2" title="SAB: Genesis 4:2b-5">Genesis 4:2b-5a</a></blockquote>

</p><p>That made Cain mad and sad. So he talked things over with his little brother, Abel. 

</p><p>Then he killed him.

</p><p><blockquote>And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell. <br />
...<br />
 Cain talked with Abel his brother ... and slew him. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#4" title="SAB: Genesis 4:4b-8">Genesis 4:4b-8</a></blockquote>

</p><p>God dropped by and asked Cain where his brother was. Cain said, "I don't know. Am I my brother's keeper?"

</p><p><blockquote>And the LORD said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother's keeper? <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#9" title="SAB: Genesis 4:9">Genesis 4:9</a></blockquote>

</p><p>God cursed Cain for killing Abel, making him a fugitive and vagabond.

</p><p><blockquote>Now art thou cursed ... a fugitive and a vagabond shalt thou be in the earth. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#11" title="SAB: Genesis 4:11-12">Genesis 4:11-12</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Cain told God that he was worried about people killing him, so God put a mark on Cain warning people not to kill him or vengeance would be taken on them seven times. (What were God and Cain worried about? There were only two other people alive at the time -- Cain's parents.)

</p><p><blockquote>Cain said unto the LORD ... every one that findeth me shall slay me. 
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#13" title="SAB: Genesis 4:13-15">Genesis 4:13-15</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Then Cain went off east of Eden in the land of Nod, got married, raised a family, built a city, and did all the things you'd expect a fugitive and vagabond to do on a planet with a total population of 3. 

</p><p><blockquote>And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/4.html#16" title="SAB: Genesis 4:16-17">Genesis 4:16-17</a></blockquote>

</p><p>But what was the mark that God put on Cain? Was it a sign on his forehead saying, "I killed my brother, but don't kill me or God will kill you seven times"? The Bible doesn't say.

</p><p>Lucky for us and Mitt Romney, Mormon Scripture does! (More or less, anyway.)

</p><p>There are four books in Mormon Scripture: The Bible, the Book of Mormon, the Doctrine and Covenants, and the Pearl of Great Price. And one of the books in the Pearl of Great Price is the Book of Moses.

</p><p>Here's what Moses had to say about the seed of Cain.

<blockquote>And Enoch also beheld the residue of the people which were the sons of Adam; and they were a mixture of all the seed of Adam save it was the seed of Cain, for <b>the seed of Cain were black</b>, and had not place among them. <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses/7.22?lang=eng#21">Moses 7:22</a></blockquote>

</p><p>So Mormon scripture says that the seed of Cain are black and God put a mark on Cain. Someone should ask Mitt Romney if the two things are one and the same.

</p><p>Maybe it should be (Herman) Cain.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-1800609848632162347?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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		<title>2 Nephi 10: Wicked Jews, Blessed Gentiles, and a Completely Mormon America (with a Mormon president)</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob woke up the next day and started preaching again. He predicted that many Nephite children would "perish in the flesh because of unbelief." But not to worry, God will somehow restore the dead little unbelievers by forcing them to believe -- or som...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob woke up the next day and started preaching again. He predicted that many Nephite children would "perish in the flesh because of unbelief." But not to worry, God will somehow restore the dead little unbelievers by forcing them to believe -- or something like that. 

<blockquote>Many of our children shall perish in the flesh because of unbelief, nevertheless, God will be merciful unto many; and our children shall be restored, that they may come to that which will give them the true knowledge of their Redeemer. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#2" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:2">2 Nephi 10:2</a></blockquote>

</p><p>And now, for the first time, God reveals the last name of the Redeemer -- Christ.

<blockquote>Christ -- for in the last night the angel spake unto me that this should be his name. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#3" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:3a">2 Nephi 10:3a</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Which is really cool, isn't it? An angel revealed Jesus H. Christ's last name 2600 years before Jesus was born! 

</p><p>(In the 1830 version of the Book of Mormon, Jesus' name is revealed in a bit earlier. <a href="http://carm.org/religious-movements/mormonism/1-nephi">1 Nephi 12:18</a> read, "...Jesus Christ, which is the Lamb of God, of whom the Holy Ghost beareth record..." The LDS church changed "Jesus Christ" to "Messiah" so the angel wouldn't have to reveal it twice.)

</p><p>The angel also told Jacob about Jews. They are, he said, the most wicked people on earth. Only Jews would crucify God.

<blockquote>The Jews ... are the more wicked part of the world; and they shall crucify him ... there is none other nation on earth that would crucify their God. For should the mighty miracles be wrought among other nations they would repent, and know that he be their God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#3" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:3b-4">2 Nephi 10:3b-4</a></blockquote>

</p><p>And because Jews are so darned evil, God will send them destruction, famines, diseases, and bloodshed. Most will be killed and the rest scattered.

<blockquote>Because of their iniquities, destructions, famines, pestilences, and bloodshed shall come upon them; and they who shall not be destroyed shall be scattered among all nations. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#6" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:6">2 Nephi 10:6</a></blockquote>

</p><p>But someday the Jews will believe in Jesus and return to Israel. (The prophecy was fulfilled in 1948 when every Jew became Christian and Israel became an independent state.)

<blockquote>When the day cometh that they shall believe in me, that I am Christ ... they shall be restored ... unto the lands of their inheritance. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#7" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:7">2 Nephi 10:7</a></blockquote>

</p><p>In the meantime, God will make the Gentiles (white, non-Catholic, Christian Americans) great (in the eyes of him, saith he).

<blockquote>The Gentiles shall be great in the eyes of me, saith God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#8" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:8">2 Nephi 10:8</a></blockquote>

</p><p>The Gentile kings will be the Nephites' nursing fathers and their queens their nursing mothers. God will bless the Gentiles, while giving the land (America) to the Nephites (Mormons). 

<blockquote>The kings of the Gentiles shall be nursing fathers unto them, and their queens shall become nursing mothers ...  this land, said God, shall be a land of thine inheritance, and the Gentiles shall be blessed upon the land. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#9" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:9-10">2 Nephi 10:9-10</a></blockquote>

</p><p>America will be "a land of liberty" for Gentiles, with no kings allowed. (Not even nursing kings?)

<blockquote>This land shall be a land of liberty unto the Gentiles, and there shall be no kings upon the land. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#11" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:11">2 Nephi 10:11</a></blockquote>

</p><p>God will fortify this land (America) against all other nations and whoever is against Zion (the Mormon church) is a dead, anti-God, cosmopolitan whore. 

<blockquote>I will fortify this land against all other nations. And he that fighteth against Zion shall perish, saith God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#12" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:12-13">2 Nephi 10:12-13</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>He that fighteth against Zion, both Jew and Gentile, both bond and free, both male and female, shall perish; for they are they who are the whore of all the earth; for they who are not for me are against me, saith our God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#16" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:16">2 Nephi 10:16</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Non-Mormon Americans ("Gentiles") are the new Jews and will be both naughty and nice to Mormons, depending on how God feels at the moment.

<blockquote>I will afflict thy seed by the hand of the Gentiles; nevertheless, I will soften the hearts of the Gentiles, that they shall be like unto a father to them; wherefore, the Gentiles shall be blessed and numbered among the house of Israel. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#18" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:18">2 Nephi 10:18</a></blockquote>

</p><p>God blessed America and consecrated it to the seed of Nephi (Mormons). The United States is God's favorite country, and someday all Americans will worship him and become Mormons.

<blockquote>I will consecrate this land unto thy seed, and them who shall be numbered among thy seed, forever, for the land of their inheritance; for it is a choice land, saith God unto me, above all other lands, wherefore I will have all men that dwell thereon that they shall worship me, saith God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/10.html#19" title="SABoM: 2 Nephi 10:19">2 Nephi 10:19</a></blockquote>

</p><p>And make Mitt Romney their president.

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		<title>Mitt Romney believes that all non-Mormon sects are an abomination in the sight of God</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, he didn't actually say that, but that's what he believes -- if he is, as he claims to be, a  member of the LDS church.

There can be no doubt about this one. Here's why.

A Mormon believes that all scripture is inspired by God and is, therefore, tr...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, he didn't actually say that, but that's what he believes -- if he is, as he claims to be, a  member of the LDS church.

</p><p>There can be no doubt about this one. Here's why.

</p><p>A Mormon believes that <a href="http://mormon.org/faq/purpose-of-bible/">all scripture is inspired by God</a> and is, therefore, true. One of the writings in LDS scripture is <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp?lang=eng">The Pearl of Great Price</a>, which includes 
<a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng">Joseph Smith -- History</a>. 

</p><p>In his "History", Joseph Smith describes a meeting he had when he was 14 years old with God and Jesus. Joseph was confused about the various Christian sects, so he asked God to help him sort it all out. Here's what happened according to Mormon scripture.

<blockquote>
Exerting all my powers to call upon God ... I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me. <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng#16">16</a></blockquote>

</p><p>A light, brighter than the sun, fell on Joseph, and two brightly shining men appeared above him in the air. One of them said to him, while pointing at the other shiny guy, "Joseph, this is my beloved son. Hear him!" (Jesus's dad is on the right.)

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/first_vision.png"/>

<blockquote>When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him! <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng#17">17</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>Which was really fortunate, since Joseph wanted to find out which of the Christian sects was right. Now that God and his son (Jesus, I'm thinking) had showed up, Joseph could just ask them directly. If anyone would know, they would.

<blockquote>My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. ... Therefore ... I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)—and which I should join. <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng#18">18</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>The more talkative one (Jesus' dad?) told Joseph that he should "join none of them, for they were all wrong" and that "all their creeds were an abomination in his sight."

<blockquote>I was answered that I must join none of them, for <b>they were all wrong; and</b> the Personage who addressed me said that <b>all their creeds were an abomination in his sight</b>. <a href="http://lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng#19">19</a>
</blockquote>

</p><p>So if Mitt Romney is a Mormon, he believes that all non-Mormon Christian beliefs are wrong and an abomination in God's sight. 

</p><p>Either that or he believes that Joseph Smith was just making stuff up when he wrote Mormon scripture.

</p><p>Someone should ask him which it is.

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		<title>Injustice and the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's a plot of the verses that I've highlighted at the SAB that  seem unjust (to me, anyway). 



Matthew, Revelation, Luke, and Romans have the most injustices in the New Testament; and Jeremiah and Deuteronomy have the most in the Old. 

Here's the...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's a plot of the verses that I've highlighted at the SAB that <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/inj/long.html" title="SAB: Injustice in the Bible"> seem unjust</a> (to me, anyway). 

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/inj/dot.png" width="500"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Matthew">Matthew</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Revelation">Revelation</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Luke">Luke</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rom/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Romans">Romans</a> have the most injustices in the New Testament; and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jer/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Jeremiah">Jeremiah</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Deuteronomy">Deuteronomy</a> have the most in the Old. 

</p><p>Here's the Injustice Index plot, with the usual definition (highlighted passages / 100 verses).

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/inj/InjI.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>Some of the smallest books have the largest Injustice Index, since although they only have a few unjust passages, they also have only a few dozen verses. Thus, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2jn/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in 2 John">2 John</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jude/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Jude">Jude</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/tit/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Titus">Titus</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2th/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in 2 Thessalonians">2 Thessalonians</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2pet/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in 2 Peter">2 Peter</a> compete with <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Revelation">Revelation</a> for the highest Injustice Index in the New Testament; and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/am/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Amos">Amos</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/zeph/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Zephaniah">Zephaniah</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mal/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Malachi">Malachi</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ob/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Obadiah">Obadiah</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mic/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Micah">Micah</a> edge out <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/inj_list.html" title="SAB: Injustice in Deuteronomy">Deuteronomy</a> for the prize in the Old. 

</p><p>And the log-log plot with the more unjust books identified.

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		<title>Science and the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the next few days, I'll try to finish up the analyses of the various SAB categories. For those of you that can't take the excitement, I understand. You can skip it and come back next week. It should all be over by then.

Here's a plot of the verses ...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the next few days, I'll try to finish up the analyses of the various SAB categories. For those of you that can't take the excitement, I understand. You can skip it and come back next week. It should all be over by then.

</p><p>Here's a plot of the verses that I've highlighted at the SAB that are <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/long.html" title="SAB: Science and History in the Bible">of some scientific interest</a> (to me, anyway). I should mention that not all of the passages conflict with science and history, although most do.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/dot.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>Nothing too surprising here. The gospels, Revelation, and Acts have the most science passages highlighted in the New Testament; and Genesis has the most in the Old. 

</p><p>Here's the Science index plot, with the usual definition (highlighted passages / 100 verses).

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/science/SciIndex.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>And here's the log-log plot.

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		<title>Women and the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just one more analysis before I take a break for a few days. 

I should mention, in case you haven't already noticed, that when I say "Women," I mean "Insults to women, misogyny, etc." The Bible doesn't have much nice to say about women, but when it do...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one more analysis before I take a break for a few days. 

</p><p>I should mention, in case you haven't already noticed, that when I say "<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/long.html">Women</a>," I mean "Insults to women, misogyny, etc." The Bible doesn't have much nice to say about women, but when it does, I put it in the "Good Stuff." The same is true for the other categories, except for "Interpretation" and "Sex." 

</p><p>Here is the overall plot.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/dot.png"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/wom_list.html" title="1 Corinthians: Women">First Corinthians</a> has the most insults to women in the New Testament, while <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/wom_list.html" title="Genesis: Women">Genesis</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/wom_list.html" title="Leviticus: Women">Leviticus</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/wom_list.html" title="Ezekiel: Women">Ezekiel</a> have the most in the Old. 

</p><p>The Women Index is defined in the usual way -- Insults per 100 verses.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/WI.png"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/wom_list.html" title="1 Timothy: Women">First Timothy</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/tit/wom_list.html" title="Titus: Women">Titus</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/wom_list.html" title="1 Peter: Women">First Peter</a> have the highest WI in the New Testament, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/wom_list.html" title="Hosea: Women">Hosea</a> is highest in the Old. 

</p><p>Here is the log-log plot for Women.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/women/log.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>I'll finish the analyses next week when I get back.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-2607472738678403930?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Biblical Sex: An analysis by book</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know, I said injustice was next, but the Family Values analysis got me thinking about sex. So that's what I'm doing now.



As you can see, there's not much sex in the New Testament. We've got the whore of Babylon in Revelation, Paul saying there's n...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I know, I said injustice was next, but the Family Values analysis got me thinking about <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/long.html">sex</a>. So that's what I'm doing now.

<p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/dot.png"/>

</p><p>As you can see, there's not much sex in the New Testament. We've got the whore of Babylon in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/sex_list.html" title="Sex in Revelation">Revelation</a>, Paul saying there's no time for sex because Jesus is coming in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1cor/sex_list.html" title="Sex in 1 Corinthians">1 Corinthians</a>, and Jesus telling us to cut off whatever body part causes us to commit adultery in our hearts in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/sex_list.html" title="Sex in Matthew">Matthew</a>. But that's about it.

</p><p>No, for sex, stick with the Old Testament. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sofs/sex_list.html" title="Sex in the Song of Solomon">The Song of Solomon</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/sex_list.html" title="Sex in Genesis">Genesis</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/sex_list.html" title="Sex in Leviticus">Leviticus</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/sex_list.html" title="Sex in Ezekiel">Ezekiel</a> will keep you busy for a lifetime.

</p><p>The Sex Index is defined in the usual way (Sexual encounters per 100 verses).

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/sex/SexIndex.png"/>

</p><p>I think we have a winner here. Nothing beats the Song of Solomon for sex.

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		<title>Biblical Family Values: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 20:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the family values plots. 



Matthew and Luke have the most Family Values in the New Testament and Genesis does in the Old.

And here's how it looks when size is accounted for. (Family Values Index is the number of Family Values per 100 verses...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/fv/long.html" title="SAB: Family Values">family values</a> plots. 

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/fv/dot.png" width="450"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Matthew">Matthew</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Luke">Luke</a> have the most Family Values in the New Testament and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Genesis">Genesis</a> does in the Old.

</p><p>And here's how it looks when size is accounted for. (Family Values Index is the number of Family Values per 100 verses.)

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/fv/FVI.png" width="450"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in First Peter">First Peter</a> takes the FVI prize in the New Testament and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hos/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Hosea">Hosea</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/est/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Esther">Esther</a>, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/fv_list.html" title="Family Values in Luke">Ruth</a> win the Old Testament's gold, silver, and bronze Family Values medals.

</p><p>And here is the log-log plot (minus the books with no family values).

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/fv/log.png" width="450"/>

</p><p>Next: Injustice.<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-248027036071467913?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Cruelty in the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the plots for Cruelty.



Revelation and Leviticus have the most cruelties in the New and Old Testaments, respectively. But notice that there are a few cruelty-free books in each. These won't show up in the log-log plot, since it is bad luck t...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the plots for <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html">Cruelty</a>.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/dot.png"/>

</p><p>Revelation and Leviticus have the most cruelties in the New and Old Testaments, respectively. But notice that there are a few cruelty-free books in each. These won't show up in the log-log plot, since it is bad luck to take the log of zero.

</p><p>Here is a plot of the Cruelty Index, which is defined in the usual way (Cruelties / 100 verses).

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/CrueltyIndex.png"/>

</p><p><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/cr_list.html" title="Cruelty in Revelation">Revelation</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/cr_list.html" title="Cruelty in Leviticus">Leviticus</a> stay in first place even after adjusting for their relatively large sizes. These two are blood-red with cruelty.

</p><p>And here's the log-log plot (without the cruelty-free books).

</p><p></p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/log.png" width="500"/>

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		<title>Contradictions in the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I promised in my last post that I would create and analyze a Boring Index for the books of the Bible, and I'll to get to that. But first, I thought I'd go through the categories in the SAB and do unto them as I did to the absurdities. So here it is for...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I promised in my last post that I would create and analyze a Boring Index for the books of the Bible, and I'll to get to that. But first, I thought I'd go through the categories in the SAB and do unto them as I did to the absurdities. So here it is for <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_book.html" title="SAB: Contradictions in the Bible">the contradictions</a>. <br />(Thanks for the suggestions in the comments on the plots.)

<p>First I'll plot the number of contradictions in each book by testament.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/dot.png"/>

</p><p>Notice that the gospels have the most contradictions in the New Testament, as does <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/contra_list.html" title="Contradictions in Genesis">Genesis</a> in the Old. No big surprise there. But they are also rather big books. What happens if we take size into account?

</p><p>We can do that with the Contradiction Index, which is just the number of contradictions per 100 verses. Here's what that looks like.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/ContraIndex.png"/>

</p><p>There are some surprises here. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jas/contra_list.html" title="Contradictions in James">James</a> is the most contradictory book of the New Testament, with <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mal/contra_list.html" title="Contradictions in Malachi">Malach</a>i taking the gold in the Old. 

</p><p>And here's a log-log plot of the number of contradictions versus the number of verses.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/log.png" width="500"/>

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		<title>One Last Look at the Absurdities</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the comments, Adam suggested that I do a log-log plot of the absurdity data, which was an excellent idea. It separates the mass of points involving the small books of the Bible and tames down the big ones. 

Here's the result with some of the more i...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the comments, Adam suggested that I do a log-log plot of <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/long.htm">the absurdity data</a>, which was an excellent idea. It separates the mass of points involving the small books of the Bible and tames down the big ones. 

</p><p>Here's the result with some of the more interesting books identified.<br />
(Red = New Testament, Black = Old Testament)

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/log.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>Thanks Adam!<div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/26149572-4544239479605764452?l=dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Another Look at the Absurdities in the Bible</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 23:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of you were probably bothered by my last post on absurdities. Regression analysis is lots of fun, but what you really wanted was a Cleveland dot chart that would show at a glance the total number of absurdities in each book of the Bible. So I deci...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you were probably bothered by <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2011/09/absurdities-in-bible-analysis-by-book.html" title="Absurdities in the Bible: An analysis by book">my last post on absurdities</a>. Regression analysis is lots of fun, but what you really wanted was a Cleveland dot chart that would show at a glance the total number of absurdities in each book of the Bible. So I decided to make one for you.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/dot.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>So it turns out that <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Luke">Luke</a> has the most absurdities in the New Testament, with <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Revelation">Revelation</a> a close second. Luke didn't show up as an outlier in the regression analysis since it also has the most verses in the New Testament.

</p><p>What we need is an Absurdity Index that will take into account the number of absurdities and the number of verses. 

</p><p>And here's what I came up with.

</p><p>Absurdity Index = 100 * Number of Absurdities / Number of Verses

</p><p>Which is the number of absurdities per 100 verses. 

</p><p>Here's the Absurdity Index dot chart.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/AI_dot.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>Now we see that Revelation is the clear winner for the New Testament, but <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Leviticus">Leviticus</a> only gets the Old Testament's bronze medal for Absurdity. The little books of <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/jon/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Jonah">Jonah</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/hag/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Haggai">Haggai</a> are the most absurd, as measured by the Absurdity Index.

</p><p>And what about the book of <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Psalms">Psalms</a>? It looked like a low outlier in the regression analysis, but now it's buried near the bottom with a bunch little books. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezra/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Ezra">Ezra</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/neh/abs_list.html" title="Absurdity in Nehemiah">Nehemiah</a> have the lowest AIs, but that's not because they're good; it's because they are so damned boring.

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		<title>Helping Believers Resolve Contradictions: A Biblically Correct Approach</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Up to now I've mostly ignored contradictions. Oh, I list them, alright, but I don't focus on them, because they seem to me to be the least of the Bible's problems. Deuteronomy 13:6-10 is disgusting to everyone that reads it. And believers know better t...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Up to now I've mostly ignored contradictions. Oh, I list them, alright, but I don't focus on them, because they seem to me to be the least of the Bible's problems. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/dt/13.html#6">Deuteronomy 13:6-10</a> is disgusting to everyone that reads it. And believers know better than to try to defend it or any of the thousands of other similarly unjustifiable passages. They focus on the contradictions instead.

</p><p>And I've never seen a contradiction that a believer can't explain away in one way or another. Rarely, however, is a contradiction actually resolved with a straight answer. 

</p><p>So I've decided to help them out. I'm going to try to find Biblically Correct answers to all of the contradictions that I've listed. (They'll be given at the bottom of each contradiction.)

</p><p>But first, I'll explain my approach. I begin with the believer's most sacred assumption, as stated in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2tim/3.html#16">2 Timothy 3:16</a>: "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof" etc.

</p><p>So when scriptures disagree, I'll try to resolve the disagreement by using the scriptures themselves. I'll begin by listing the passages that favor each side of the contradiction. Then I'll count the number on each side and select the Biblically Correct answer by determining which side has the highest number of divinely inspired passages. Let the Holy Ghost vote on it, so to speak.  

</p><p>That should work for most contradictions, but what happens with a tie?

</p><p>I don't have a simple answer to that, except to say that I will try to find a Biblically Correct way to resolve God's disagreement with himself. 

</p><p>So let's get started. Here is the first contradiction on <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/by_name.html">the list</a>.

<table border="1" cellpadding="10"  >

  <caption><b>How many men did the chief of David's captains kill?</b></caption>
  <tr valign="top">
    <th width="50%"><center><i>800</i></center>
    </th><th width="*"><center><i>300</i></center>
  </th></tr>
  <tr valign="top">
    <td width="50%">
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        <dt><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/2sam/23.html#8">2 Samuel 23:8</a>
     
        <dd>These be the names of the mighty men whom David had: The Tachmonite that sat in the seat, 
        chief among the captains; the same was Adino the Eznite: he lift up his spear against eight hundred, whom he slew at one time. (KJV)
        
        <p><dd>These are the names of David's mighty men: Josheb-Basshebeth, a Tahkemonite, was chief of the Three; 
        he raised his spear against eight hundred men, whom he killed in one encounter. (NIV)
        
        <p><dd>These are the names of the mighty men whom David had: Josheb-basshe'beth a Tah-che'monite; 
        he was chief of the three; he wielded his spear against eight hundred whom he slew at one time. (RSV)
      </dd></p></dd></p></dd></dt></dl>
      
      </td><td width="*">
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        <dt><a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1chr/11.html#11">1 Chronicles 11:11</a>
        
        <dd>And this is the number of the mighty men whom David had; Jashobeam, an Hachmonite, 
        the chief of the captains: he lifted up his spear against three hundred slain by him at one time. (KJV)
        
        <p><dd>this is the list of David's mighty men: Jashobeam, a Hacmonite, was chief of the officers; 
        he raised his spear against three hundred men, whom he killed in one encounter. (NIV)
        
        <p><dd>This is an account of David's mighty men: Jasho'be-am, a Hach'monite, was chief of the three; 
        he wielded his spear against three hundred whom he slew at one time. (RSV)
      </dd></p></dd></p></dd></dt></dl>
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<tr><td colspan="2"><p>Note from the Oxford Annotated Bible for 2 Samuel 23:8-11: <i>Josheb-basshebeth a Tachemonite</i> is an error of a copyist; 
      1 Chr 11.11 has <i>Jashobeam a Hachmonite</i>. It has been proposed that the man's original name was Ishbaal (see 2.8 n. and 11.14-25 n.). 

</p><p>So according to the Oxford Annotated Bible, Jashobeam and Josheb-basshe'beth (and Ishbaal) are different names for the same person.

</p></td></tr>
      
</table>

</p><p>Darn! Wouldn't you know it? The very first contradiction is a tie. First Chronicles says one thing and Second Samuel another. How will we ever know how many guys old what's-his-name impaled on his spear? This is important stuff, too. God wants us to know the answer. That's why he put it in the Bible -- twice.

</p><p>Well, luckily when different versions of the same story are told in 1 Chronicles and 2 Samuel, we know which divinely inspired story to believe. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Chronicles#Authorship_and_composition" title="Wikipedia: Books of Chronicles, Authorship and composition">First Chronicles</a> was written several 
       centuries after <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Books_of_Samuel" title="Wikipedia: Books of Samuel">Second Samuel</a> and the Chronicler used 2 Samuel as a source, so any conflict between them is easily resolved. The Biblically Correct answer is from 2 Samuel.

</p><p>And just like that, the first contradiction is resolved. The answer is 800.

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		<title>Absurdities in the Bible: An analysis by book</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that I've completed another revision of the SAB, I thought I'd get back to everyone's favorite subject: Bible statistics. 

One of the categories in the SAB is absurdities, and the current list has a total of 2165, which is more than any other bibl...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that I've completed another revision of <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com">the SAB</a>, I thought I'd get back to everyone's favorite subject: Bible statistics. 

</p><p>One of the categories in the SAB is absurdities, and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/long.htm">the current list</a> has a total of 2165, which is more than any other biblical category. The list changes all the time, though, as I find more fun stuff in the Bible. But if I wait until it's finished to do an analysis, an analysis will never get done. 

</p><p>Now I'm sure you often ask yourself the question, "Which book in the Bible is the most absurd?" We all do. It can make you crazier than a Tea Party presidential candidate if you're not careful.

</p><p>So let's try to answer it. We can begin by plotting the total number of absurdities in each book of the Bible versus the number of verses in the book. Here's the resulting graph.

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/Abs0i.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>The graph tells us a few things right away.

<ol>
<li>Leviticus has the most absurdities (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/abs_list.html">158</a>).

<p><li>There are three books that have an unusual number of absurdities for their sizes. Two high (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/abs_list.html">Revelation</a> and <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/abs_list.html">Leviticus</a>) and one low (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ps/abs_list.html">Psalms</a>).

<p><li>The number of absurdities increases with the number of verses in a more or less linear fashion. (The line on the graph is the zero intercept least squares regression model for 
the data after removing the three outliers. <br />y = 0.0651 x, R<sup>2</sup> = 0.9049.)

</li></p></li></p></li></ol>

</p><p>Since I knew some of you would ask for it, I repeated the analysis for each testament separately. Here's the graph for the Old. <br />(Model, outliers excluded: y = 0.0617 x, R<sup>2</sup> = 0.8934)

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/OTAbs0i.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>And here's the New.<br />
(Model, outlier excluded: y = 0.0770 x, R<sup>2</sup> = 0.9622)

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/abs/NTAbs0i.png" width="500"/>

</p><p>The separate models are similar to each other and to the combined model. The same outliers are present and the coefficients are of nearly equal magnitude. So that leaves us with this:

<ol>
<li>Leviticus is the most absurd book in the Old Testament and Revelation is in the New. And the book of Psalms seems abnormally normal for such a large biblical book.

<p><li>Generally we can expect to find about 6.5 absurdities in each 100 verses of the Bible.
</li></p></li></ol> 

</p><p>OK. But which book is the weirdest? Leviticus or Revelation?

</p><p>Well, here are their numbers.

<table border="1">
<tr><td>
</td><td>Absurdities
</td><td>Verses
</td><td>Absurdities per 100 verses
<tr>
<td>Leviticus
</td><td>158
</td><td>859
</td><td>18.4
<tr>
<td>Revelation
</td><td>94
</td><td>404
</td><td>23.3
</td></tr></td></tr></td></tr></table>

</p><p>So I guess I'd go with Revelation.

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		<description><![CDATA[Jacob takes a break from his preaching (again) by throwing in a few more chapters from Isaiah 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jacob takes a break from his preaching (again) by throwing in a few more chapters from Isaiah 
so that 2400 years later the true (LDS) church will know the covenants that God has covenanted with the Jews.

<blockquote>And now, my beloved brethren, I have read these things that ye might know concerning the covenants of the Lord that he has covenanted with all the house of Israel. 

<p>That he has spoken unto the Jews ... until the time comes that they shall be restored to the true church. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/9.html#1">2 Nephi 9:1-2</a></p></blockquote>

</p><p>But I'm going to skip all that. Isaiah sucks (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/6.html#7">the breasts of kings</a>).

</p><p>After the Isaiah break, Jacob returned to his 19th century, frontier American, Protestant sermon, which he delivered to the Nephites circa 550 BCE, warning them that they'll all burn in hell unless they repent, believe, and be baptized in the name of someone (Jesus H. Christ) who will not exist for another six centuries or so.

<blockquote>If they will not repent and believe in his name, and be baptized in his name ... they must be damned [to] hell ... the lake of fire and brimstone, which is endless torment.  <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/9.html#24">2 Nephi 9:24-26</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Then he takes off all his clothes and shakes them in front of his brethren, exposing himself  in all of his glorious blood-free brightness to God's all-searching eye.

<blockquote>Behold, I take off my garments, and I shake them before you; I pray ... God ... view me with his all-searching eye ... that I stand with brightness before him, and am rid of your blood. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/9.html#44">2 Nephi 9:44</a></blockquote>

After that Jacob is not only naked, he's also a bit tired, so he'll finish his sermon tomorrow. 

<blockquote>And now, my brethren, I would speak unto you more; but on the morrow I will declare unto you the remainder of my words.  Amen. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/BOM/2ne/9.html#54">2 Nephi 9:54</a></blockquote>

</p><p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOJEMh3JjSM">Tomorrow is a Latter Day.</a><br /> 

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		<title>Michele Bachmann&#8217;s favorite Bible story: Jonathan and his gay companion slaughter the entire Philistine army</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, not that gay companion, silly. Not David. Jonathan's other gay companion.

Here's Ms. Bachmann's version of the story. (It starts at 4:30.)



And here's what really happened according to the Bible (1 Samuel 14:1-14). 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not that gay companion, silly. Not <a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2006/07/david-man-after-gods-own-heart-wwdd.html">David</a>. Jonathan's <i>other</i> gay companion.

</p><p>Here's Ms. Bachmann's version of the story. (It starts at 4:30.)

</p><p><iframe width="420" height="345" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/TfYVOLy-qPY" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

</p><p>And here's what really happened according to the Bible (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html">1 Samuel 14:1-14</a>). <br />
(As always, be sure to read the <a href="http://thebricktestament.com/king_saul/slaughter_of_the_philistines/1s14_02p01.html">Brick Testament story</a>.)

</p><p>One day Jonathan and his armor bearer decided to go find some uncircumcised guys to kill. Who knows? Maybe God would help them.

<blockquote>Jonathan said to the young man that bare his armour, Come, and let us go over unto the garrison of these uncircumcised: it may be that the LORD will work for us. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#6"> 1 Samuel 14:6</a></blockquote>

</p><p>Jonathan's amorous armor bearer said to him, "Do whatever is in your heart. Whatever is in your heart is in my heart, too." (They had a very close, intimate relationship.)

</p><p><a href="http://thebricktestament.com/king_saul/slaughter_of_the_philistines/1s14_02p01.html"><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14_7.jpg" width="500"/></a>

</p><p>So Jonathan told him his plan. They will go over to the Philistines and if they say, "Wait there and we'll come over to you," then Jonathan and his armor bearer will stay put. But if the Philistines say, "Come up to us, and we will show you something," then they will attack, knowing that God will help kill them.

<blockquote>Then said Jonathan, Behold, we will pass over unto these men, and we will discover ourselves unto them. If they say thus unto us, Tarry until we come to you; then we will stand still in our place, and will not go up unto them. But if they say thus, Come up unto us; then we will go up: for the LORD hath delivered them into our hand: and this shall be a sign unto us. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#8"> 1 Samuel 14:8-10</a></blockquote>

</p><p>So they did that. And when the Philistines saw them, they said, "Look the Hebrews have crawled out of the holes they were hiding in." 

<blockquote>And both of them discovered themselves unto the garrison of the Philistines: and the Philistines said, Behold, the Hebrews come forth out of the holes where they had hid themselves. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#11"> 1 Samuel 14:11</a></blockquote>

</p><p>And then the Philistines said the magic words of doom, "Come on up and we'll show you a thing or two."

<blockquote>And the men of the garrison answered Jonathan and his armourbearer, and said, Come up to us, and we will shew you a thing. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#12"> 1 Samuel 14:12a</a></blockquote>

</p><p>When Jonathan heard that, he told his partner that God would help them kill the Philistines. 

<blockquote>And Jonathan said unto his armourbearer, Come up after me: for the LORD hath delivered them into the hand of Israel. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#12"> 1 Samuel 14:12b</a></blockquote>

</p><p>So they crawled out of their hole and began to kill Philistines. 

<blockquote>And Jonathan climbed up upon his hands and upon his feet, and his armourbearer after him: and they fell before Jonathan; and his armourbearer slew after him.  <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#13"> 1 Samuel 14:12</a></blockquote>

</p><p>They killed about 20 of them, all in an area of half an acre or so. Which is not too bad for a very first slaughter.

<blockquote>And that first slaughter, which Jonathan and his armourbearer made, was about twenty men, within as it were an half acre of land, which a yoke of oxen might plow. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#14"> 1 Samuel 14:14</a></blockquote>

</p><p>But it is quite different from Ms. Bachmann's story. In her version, Jonathan and his friend kill the entire Philistine army, not just 20 guys in a half-acre. 

</p><p>Here's what she says (6:30 in the video).

<blockquote>And what was amazing is that Jonathan and his compatriot soldier took the entire army down. ... That's what God is looking for today.</blockquote>

</p><p>But she was sort of right. After the 1/2 acre slaughter, God sent an earthquake and then he forced the Philistines to kill each other. 

<blockquote>And there was trembling ... and the earth quaked: so it was a very great trembling. ... The multitude melted away, and they went on beating down one another ... Every man's sword was against his fellow. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1sam/14.html#15">1 Samuel 14:15-20</a></blockquote>

</p><p>I guess the point is the same, though. God wants us to kill uncircumcised people (Muslims, Catholics, Democrats, old people, the poor, etc.). He will do it himself if he has to, but he'd like our help. Otherwise he'll have to send <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/29/306436/bachamnn-hurricane-message-god/">earthquakes and hurricanes</a> and then force us all to kill each other. And you wouldn't want that to happen, would you?


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		<title>Doug Wilson quotes Ezekiel 23:20 (NSFW)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA["Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her paramours there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed f...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>"Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt and lusted after her paramours there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed your young breasts." <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/23.html#19">Ezekiel 23:19-21</a>

<p>Is that pornographic? Did we really need to know how the Assyrians were hung, and how they ejaculated? Well, apparently God thinks so. Every word is profitable, right? <a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8854:on-being-a-tricksy-dancer&catid=83:taking-a-stroll-on-the-links">Doug Wilson: On Being a Tricky Dancer</a>
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<p>Pastor Doug quoted this pornographic passage from Ezekiel to defend a guy named Mark Driscoll, who is the featured speaker at next month's <a href="http://www.graceagenda.com/">Christ Church conference</a>, right here in Moscow, Idaho. 

</p><p>You see, Mark Driscoll "sees things." 

</p><p>Jesus shows him X-rated movies of people in his congregation having sex. 

</p><p>Here, I'll let MD tell you about it.

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</p><p>But, hey, Doug says, if God can talk about donkey dicks and horse-like splooge in <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/ezek/23.html#20"">Ezekiel 23:20</a> (for no apparent reason), then Mark Driscoll can talk about his dirty movies at the Christ Church conference. 

</p><p>You can register for the conference <a href="http://www.graceagenda.com/">here</a>.

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<dt><a href="http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/56609176.html">Christian New Wire: Sexpert Pastor Mark Driscoll is Told, 'Enough is Enough'</a>

</dt><dt><a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2011/08/pornographic-divination.html">Pyromaniacs: Pornographic Divination</a>

</dt><dt><a href="http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2011/08/lets-not-dance-around-real-issues.html">Pyromaniacs: Let's not dance around the real issue</a>

</dt><dt><a href="http://thechristianworldview.com/tcwblog/archives/1640">The Christian World View - Mark Driscoll: Is He Qualified To Lead?</a>
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		<title>Those who agree with Michele Bachmann shouldn&#8217;t vote for her.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here's why.

It all has to do with the question that Byron York asked Michele Bachmann at the debate last Thursday night.

In 2006, when you were running for Congress, you described a moment in your life when your husband said you should study for a de...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's why.

</p><p>It all has to do with <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raJEocQX5VE">the question</a> that Byron York asked Michele Bachmann at the debate last Thursday night.

<blockquote>In 2006, when you were running for Congress, you described a moment in your life when your husband said you should study for a degree in tax law. You said you hated the idea, and then you explained: "But the Lord said, be submissive. Wives, you are to be submissive to your husband." As president, would you be submissive to your husband?</blockquote>

</p><p>It was a surprisingly fair and balanced question for a debate sponsored by Fox News.

</p><p>Ms. Bachmann didn't answer the question, of course. Instead she said that she respected her husband and was proud of their 28 kids.

</p><p>And yet <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rUBomKvY0">she believes she should be submissive to her husband</a> in everything, as though he were God himself. She believes this because she believes in the Bible and the Bible says exactly that.

<blockquote>Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/eph/5.html#22">Ephesians 5:22-24</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/col/3.html#18">Colossians 3:18</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1pet/3.html#1">1 Peter 3:1</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>Teach the young women to be ... obedient to their own husbands, that the word of God be not blasphemed. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/tit/2.html#4">Titus 2:4-5</a></blockquote>

</p><p>So a vote for Michelle Bachmann is not a vote for her; it's a vote for her husband, Marcus. 

</p><p><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/diu/marcus.jpg"/>

</p><p>And that might be OK with Bachmann's supporters. Marcus is, by all accounts, as bat-shit crazy as his wife. He loves Jesus just as much as she does (<a href="http://gawker.com/5820437/marcus-bachmanns-big-gay-mess">maybe even more</a>). 

</p><p>But to vote for Marcus you must vote for Michele, which is something the Bible does not permit.

<blockquote>I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/1tim/2.html#12">1 Timothy 2:12-14</a></blockquote>

</p><p>A woman president would have authority over men, and thereby cause the word of God to be blasphemed. (If, <a href="http://www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=8837:the-white-house-tv-remote&catid=84:sex-and-culture" title="Doug Wilson: The White House TV Remote">as Doug Wilson says</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/tit/2.html#5">Titus 2:5</a> means anything.)

</p><p>So those who agree with Michele Bachmann shouldn't vote for her. <br />
(Neither, of course, should anyone else.)



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		<title>What Jesus said about &#8216;Job Creators&#8217;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Jon Stewart points out, we are no longer allowed to say that rich people are rich.  "You have to refer to them as 'job creators.' You can't even use the word 'rich'. You have to say, 'This chocolate cake is so moist and job creator.'"



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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Jon Stewart points out, we are no longer allowed to say that rich people are rich.  "You have to refer to them as 'job creators.' You can't even use the word 'rich'. You have to say, 'This chocolate cake is so moist and job creator.'"

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</p><p>Well then, here's what Jesus said about job creators.

<blockquote>Verily I say unto you, That a <s>rich man</s> job creator shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a <s>rich man</s> job creator to enter into the kingdom of God. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mt/19.html#23">Matthew 19:23-24</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/mk/10.html#25">Mark 10:25</a>, <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/18.html#25">Luke 18:25</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>Woe to you that are <s>rich</s> job creators! for ye have received your consolation. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/6.html#24">Luke 6:24</a></blockquote>

<blockquote>There was a certain <s>rich man</s> job creator, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 

<p>And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 

</p><p>And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the <s>rich man's</s> job creator's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 

</p><p>And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the <s>rich man</s> job creator also died, and was buried; 

</p><p>And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 

</p><p>And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 

</p><p>But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. <a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/lk/16.html#19">Luke 16:19-25</a></p></blockquote>

</p><p>Clearly, according to Jesus, job creators are going to hell. Their best hope for salvation is higher taxes. The more we tax them, the greater their chance of making it through the eye of the needle.

</p><p>So let's save the job creators by taxing the hell out of them.

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		<title>Jesus Christ: The Former Mighty Warrior of the United States Air Force</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Wells</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US Air Force has discontinued its Christian-based training class for nuclear missile officers after a report by Truthout. I guess the Air Force no longer points to Jesus as a model for its mighty warriors.

Here is a slide that was used in the prog...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The US Air Force has discontinued its Christian-based training class for nuclear missile officers after <a href="http://www.truth-out.org/air-force-pulls-christian-themed-ethics-training-missile-officers/1311972789">a report by Truthout</a>. I guess the Air Force no longer points to Jesus as a model for its mighty warriors.

<p>Here is a slide that was used in the program's <a href="http://truthout.org/files/nuclear_ethics.pdf">Power Point presentation</a>.

</p><p><a href="http://truthout.org/files/nuclear_ethics.pdf"><img src="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com//diu/usaf.png" width="500"/></a>

</p><p>And here is the full description of Jesus "Mighty Warrior" Christ from Revelation 19 (<a href="http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/rev/19.html#11">verses 11-17</a>).

<blockquote>And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. 

<p>His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. 

</p><p>And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.  

</p><p>And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.  

</p><p>And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 

</p><p>And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.
 
</p><p>And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; hat ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men. </p></blockquote>

</p><p>Yep, that's Just War Jesus for you. 

</p><p>He makes war, has eyes of fire, with many crowns on his head, a name that nobody knows but himself, has clothes dripping with blood, has another name called "the Word of God," leads an army of heavenly soldiers with a sharp sword sticking out of his mouth and an iron rod in his hand with a third set of names ("King of Kings and Lord of Lords") tattooed on his thigh (<a href="http://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2009/06/what-does-jesus-have-written-on-his.html" title="What does Jesus have written on his testicles?">or scrotum</a>), smiting nations and feeding the flesh of all the resulting dead human bodies to the birds.

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