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The Atheist Vote

To my fellow atheists: here are a few quotes by or about the 4 major party leaders and their faith.  Take a look through, which one of these people really scares you?

Stephane Dion – Liberal

After the show, Dion asked about the denominational breakdown of those of our viewers who are Christian. “You see, the Catholics can be relied on to vote Liberal, always, but the Protestants much less so,” he explained. “It’s very difficult to get them to vote for us. I am a Catholic.”

Elizabeth May – Green Party

“We have a moral obligation to our Lord and Father to ensure we don’t destroy the creation that was given to us. Through the power of our Lord and Jesus Christ, we can meet this moral obligation,” said Ms. May.

Jack Layton – New Democrats

Well our party has long had individuals, including ministers, who have been very active in our party. For example, J.S. Woodsworth, Tommy Douglas, and Bill Blakie- a current member.  We’ve actually started a faith and justice commission in our party because we believe that this idea that people who have values that motivate them in politics derived from whatever their faith journey might have been, this idea that this is somehow the exclusive preserve of a far-right component of the population is just simply wrong.

Stephen Harper – Conservative

Harper is not all that different from Paul Martin, both being what pollsters might call “customizing Christians.” “They take their faith seriously, and listen carefully to what their spiritual leaders have to say, but they don’t necessarily accept everything as absolute truth that’s said from the pulpit,” says Mackey. “In other words, they use the minds that God gave them. He’s very cerebral and rational, and that’s the kind of thing that’s reflected in his faith.”


Isaac Hayes – Scientology kills again?

I saw on CNN that Isaac Hayes (Chef) died today.  First thing that came to mind was an interview that South Park creator, Trey Parker did on the Penn Jillette show back in 2006.  He talked about Isaac Hayes, saying:

We heard these rumors that he had had a stroke . . . Scientologists were always putting him on this weird cayenne pepper thing, you know, to get all the toxins out of your body … he was starting to change they were putting him on this weird diet, he had lost tons of weight, you know to an unhealthy degree

You can listen to that clip here.

Click here to download the whole radio show [the clip is 31 minutes in].

It’s surprisingly sad – and – Scientology is rumoured to have killed before . . .

FYI – I wouldn’t stand within 100 feet of Sam Jackson


I call it ‘Baptism’

Found floating in the sea off an unnamed west coast bible camp … it’s so tasteful.  (For those who think I’m not being fair … here, happy?)

Click to enlarge the photo – it really is beautiful.

floating Bible

Floating Bible pic sent by a friend.


Local Christians get in on the whole veiled threats thing

Tracy Cohen, Associate Producer )

TORONTO: JULY 28, 2008 -- An airplane tows a banner that reads "JESUS SUCKS!" over Toronto on Monday, July 28, 2008. Kenny Hotz, of Kenny vs Spenny fame, arranged the prank as part of their new show about who can "piss off more people". (source: Tracy Cohen, Associate Producer )

I love Kenny vs. Spenny – classiest show on TV.  This week’s challenge is who can piss off the most people.  Sounds cool – I’d recommend standing on a corner giving cigarettes to people’s kids; or wait till about 5:30, go to Union Station, stand at the Subway booth and start counting out pennies.

Anyhow, you can see from the caption what Kenny did.  The reaction though!  Three articles (1, 2, 3) in today’s National Post because people are so pissed off.

But that’s not the thing, get this – the veiled threats, they’re coming from Christians now.  From Gail Reid of the Evangelical Fellowship of the rings:

“I’m sure some people will find it humorous,” she said, “but I think we’re perhaps throwing a match in a tinderbox. We do need to be very, very careful of one another and be respectful.”

From Gail Shabazz, or Gail Mustafa Ali, I could see that.  But Reid?  I thought it was just the Sunni and the Scientologists.  Are all the religions going to get in on this now?

‘Pray tell’, why do we need to be careful?


Free speech for thee …

Via Ezra Levant today:

Rob Wells is an anti-Christian bigot. That’s fine — Canada is a free country, and people are free to be bigots, just as long as they don’t get violent about it. Hate isn’t against the law. (Well, actually it is, under section 13 of the Canadian Human Rights Act. But no-one has ever been charged under that law for saying anything anti-Christian. It has only been used against Christians. And, while we’re on the subject, not a single Muslim has been charged under that law, either.)

Wells has filed a series of complaints with Canada’s human rights commissions, trying to bully Christians into silence. He’s sued the Christian Heritage Party. He’s sued Catholic Insight, a magazine. As usual, Wells doesn’t have to pay a penny for this persecution — the government happily provides the investigators and lawyers to do so.

Do you see, Ezra? No one will ever be charged with hate crimes against Christians or whites.  It’s definitionally impossible for hate to be directed against those “Bible-thumping crackers”. Here’s what I mean.

Early this month, the BC Civil Liberties Union intervened in the MacLean’s case at the BC Human Rights Tribunal.  Part of their submission was a restatement of the Collins Test.  Without getting into the background, here is what the BCCLU said:

… Furthermore, the Collins test takes the following three non-exclusive factors into consideration: (1) the content of the expression (what was said?); (2) the tone (how was it said?); and (3) the vulnerability of the target group (about whom was it said?).

That last one – the ‘vulnerability’ bit, that’s telling.  You see, not all groups are protected from hate speech in BC, just ‘vulnerable’ groups.  Who defines which groups are vulnerable and which are not? – why of course, the BCHRT.  Based on what?  Lord knows.  Here’s the best guess – if a group was persecuted anywhere in the world by white Christians (though not necessarily in Canada) then they are ‘vulnerable’.

In the words of the BCHRT in relation to Jewish Canadians:

that Jews are “an historically disadvantaged group that has endured persecution on the largest scale.” The existence and expression of anti-Semitism in Canada and elsewhere, both past and present, is beyond doubt.

Elsewhere in the past – in their own words.

EXIT Thingy: Ever read the Collins decision?  Here’s the best quote from it: “It is, in my view, untenable to suggest that freedom is co-extensive with the absence of government. Experience shows the contrary, that freedom has often required the intervention and protection of government against private action.”

They’re saving us from ourselves!?


Two Sides to the Story

I was stunned by an editorial by Father Raymond J. de Souza in the Post yesterday.  He wrote that while the Residential Schools were bad, we must balance that out with the good they did in spreading Christianity amongst the heathen.

Makes you think.  I’d imagine a century from now, if everything goes wrong in just the right way, the Grand Mufti of Nunavut or Montreal would be saying something similar:

… violence was used, people were coerced, some died – yes this was a crime, and this was contrary to Islam, but we cannot forget the hard work of the countless jihadis who faced unbearable hardship to spread the light of Allah to the kuffar.  Do not forget that the majority of the former kuffar are Muslims today.  They do not remain Muslims because there is a scimitar at their throat, but because they were witness to the charity and strength of faith of these true Muslims for whom our Emir sees fit to apologize today.

Cram the same words into the mouth of a priest and they magically become palatable.  For some reason, the spreading of some dead fable can justify crimes of any scale.

I never fail to be awed by the audacity and shamelessness of priests.


Scientology on the Peep Show

I wonder how many people clicked through to this site hoping to see pictures of Xenu’s nipples or something? Probably a fair number. Shame on you – pervy buggers.

This clip is from a British show called ‘The Peep Show‘:


36% of young Canadians don’t believe in God

Well, He’s not quite dead, but soon … soon …

“Religion in Canada today is not a particularly divisive subject and tolerance levels for different beliefs are high,” said Harris-Decima president Bruce Anderson. “This is evident in the fact that one in four people feel comfortable saying they do not believe in a god.”

The poll found 72 per cent of respondents said they believed in a god, while 23 per cent said they did not believe in any god. Six per cent did not offer an opinion.

Polls have told a different story in the United States.

“Canada’s secularism stands in clearer distinction, when compared to the cultural and political influences of religion in the United States,” said Anderson. “In one Harris Interactive study in the United States, conducted in 2007, the number who said they were non-believers was only eight per cent.”

Keith Howard, a United church minister and executive director of the church’s Emerging Spirit program, said the results of the new survey do not represent a dramatic change from previous polls about Canadians’ beliefs.

“We are past the time of people trashing God,” he said. “They are now trying to find a safe place where they can nurture that spirituality.”

He said a poll done for the church last year indicated Canada is a nation of believers, not belongers.

Howard said his sense is that people who believe in a god increasingly imagine a nebulous but powerful force for good, rather than the traditional concept of a deity.

Indeed, he likened the concept to that of the Force in the Star Wars movies.

I love that last part.  God is like the force, Yoda is John the Baptist, Luke of course is Jesus, and Judas is Lando Calrissian.

More good news in the poll – faith belongs to the old.  When it comes to young people, there’s something like a Flynn Effect at play as the number of atheists, nontheists and agnostics, rises to 36%.

Exit Question: If there are so many of us atheists, why do sit quietly by while things like this happen?

RELATED: The Church is broke

RELATED 2: The Church admits Britain will be an Islamic Nation withing 30 years.


Anglican Church Broke

News today that the Anglican Church is broke.

In spite of a $1.17 million refund from the government, the Anglican Church of Canada still ended up with a $777,195 deficit – nearly $300,000 larger than the previous year.

They cite a number of reasons for the deficit, the changeover in management of their bookstore, a general synod, technology costs – but one of the largest contributors to the deficit was the church’s shortfall on donations:

Although donations to the Anglican Appeal, the church’s flagship appeal, went up by 1.6 per cent ($438, 344 compared to $425,881 in 2006) in 2007, it still fell short of its budgeted revenue target of $550,000, added Mr. Blachford. Appeal expenses also went up because of mailing costs.

Mr. Blachford said that due to market conditions in 2007, the church’s Consolidated Trust Fund did not produce any interest income. “By contrast, 2006 was a very good year for investments, which netted a yield of 9.9 per cent in investment income.”

Proportional giving by some dioceses was also down. He said that while proportional giving was $53,000 more than what had been budgeted because nine dioceses gave more than the suggested level of contribution, there were six dioceses that fell short of the target. “There was also an issue of the timing of revenue streams. Some dioceses were under the gun financially,” he said. Since General Synod did not receive some diocesan contributions on time, the national office incurred bank overdraft charges when it paid staff salaries.

They’re doing as bad as the Liberal Party.  And possibly for the same reason.

Spend a few minutes on their home page and here’s what you’ll see:

Primate urges Harper to consult with AFN

Phil Fontaine, National Chief of the Assembly of First Nations, has also been calling on Ottawa to involve native people in the drafting of an apology.

Failure to consult, the letter says, “may result in further injuring the victims of this broken part of our history, and call into question the genuineness of the apology.”

Huron says yes to same-sex blessings

The diocese of Huron’s annual synod, or governing convention, voted on May 26 to ask the bishop to give clergy permission to bless same-sex marriages, “where at least one party is baptized” and to authorize an appropriate rite.

Time for a Carbon Sabbath

Our addiction to oil is killing people and the planet … sometimes slowly through the degradation of the air that we breathe and the ecosystems on which we all depend, and sometimes quickly as a result of human rights abuses…

Not a lot about faith – but plenty of fringe left politics.  If you were running a secular humanist group, and needed to raise funds, I think it would make sense to talk about carbon killers, gay marriage, and the AFN – but does it make sense for a church to do so?  Is this really what Anglicans think?


First pictures from Mars & the coolest live blog on the web

The coolest live blog on the web – from the JPL, commanding the Phoenix Mars Lander:

4:39 pm
We have now verified a successful cruise stage separation and turn to entry. The Phoenix UHF signal is also being picked up by Mars Odyssey. We’re now less than six minutes from entry, at which point events will happen in rapid succession. Less than a minute after entry, Phoenix will begin heating to the point of plasma blackout due to the friction created by the atmosphere, during which we may lose communication briefly. Phoenix will then come out of plasma blackout about two minutes later. Over the four minutes following that, Phoenix will deploy its parachute, heat shield, lander legs, and then hopefully come to a soft landing on Mars.

4:45 pm
Phoenix has now entered the atmosphere. We expect possible plasma blackout in about a minute. Phoenix is less than three minutes to parachute deploy and less than seven minutes to touchdown.

4:48 pm
Odyssey has maintained a signal from Phoenix through the period of peak heating when we might have experienced a loss of communications due to plasma blackout.

4:50 pm
Parachute deploy detected! Heat shield deploy detected! Radar ground lock detected!

4:53 pm
Touchdown detected!! We’re on the surface of Mars and there is celebration in Mission Control!!

The Phoenix lander is on a mission to the Martian North Pole to search for water and life. We could know in a few days if there’s anything there…which of course would raise all sorts of very entertaining metaphysical questions for the faithful.


“Cult” of Scientology?

The British police have finally dropped hate charges against a British teen. He was charged for holding up a sign at an anti-Scientology rally that accused the cult of being a ‘cult’ (see above). Unlike in Canada, where the thought police send you a politely worded letter before taking your rights away, this teen was actually grabbed by a lightly armed goon from the City of London Police:

He had been among demonstrators from the anti-Scientology group, Anonymous, outside the church’s £23 million headquarters near St Paul’s Cathedral when he was advised to put down his banner.

A policewoman read out section 5 of the Public Order Act which prohibits signs that have representations or words which are threatening, abusive or insulting.

Others in the group agreed not to display their signs but the boy refused and he was issued with a summons. Police are believed to have taken action against the group after receiving complaints about the demonstration.

The force came under fire last year when it admitted accepting thousands of pounds of hospitality from the Church of Scientology.

The British police sure have a lot of b*lls when they have an easy target like Anonymous. Notice the less, um, militant reaction of the British police when facing these protesters:


Found Documents: Islam and Free Speech in Canada

This is a long quote from a web page belonging to the Canadian Society of Muslims (CSM). The CSM was instrumental in the Sharia law putsch a few years back.

This is their view on the limits of free speech, blasphemy and apostasy in Canada. For the impatient here is the précis:

The entire global Muslim nation determines what is blasphemy and apostasy and what is the correct punishment for each. Muslims have been in Canada since confederation and because of this, the constitution was written with them in mind. The Charter of Rights mentions: the supremacy of God, reasonable limits on freedoms, and the respect for multiculturalism. Therefore in order to honour all three provisions, Canadian courts must defer to the global Muslim community with regard to apostasy and blasphemy in Canada – if it does not, it betrays multiculturalism and is unconstitutional.

[backgrounder on the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms for the foreign.  Imagine the US Bill of Rights if it was written by Jimmy Carter]

Here’s the full quote:

the rights of individuals with regards to freedom of speech or expression, has to be balanced against the rights of other individuals to be protected from defamation, insults, slander and libel, etc. The same holds true with respect to the rights of all members of society vis a vis States, Sovereign rulers and the Real Sovereign, God – they all have to be harmonized in their own context. Obviously, then, when dealing with Islam or Muslims, one has to take into consideration the sensibilities of the whole Muslim ‘Community’/ ‘nation’/ ‘Ummat’ and their need for protection against harm, say for instance, through their rules of Blasphemy , which are framed on the basis of their own philosophy of life depicted through their own perception and sensibilities with regard to sacrilege, desecration, defamation, slander, libel and so on. Therefore, in the case of Blasphemy, it goes without saying that the Islamic rules are obviously determined by Muslims on the basis of their own religious principles…

According to the Preamble of the Charter, “Canada is ‘founded upon the principles that recognize the Supremacy of God and the Rule of Law.” This “preamble” too must be interpreted in the light of Section 27 which makes it mandatory that “this Charter shall be interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians.”

Islam is and has been (even going back to the time of Confederation) a part and parcel of multicultural heritage and Muslim adherents have had the privilege of enjoying the status of ‘Canadians’.

Because of the recognition of “Supremacy of God,” Islamic law, which originates from the Divine Source of the Supreme Legislator, God, deserves to be recognized as a legitimate code under the Rule of which Law Muslims are constitutionally entitled to live and be recognized under Section 2(a): as to freedom of conscience and religion — in the same way as Islam recognizes the right of non-Muslims to live by their own laws when living as minorities in a Muslim State (as mentioned under “Islamic Law”)…

… The Canadian Charter of Rights (Section 1) also requires that any reasonable limits on the guarantees of the Charter have to be demonstrably justified. It is our position that in view of the above arguments that the limits prescribed by Islamic law, with regards to blasphemy/apostasy, do satisfy both the Charter requirements. Namely (i) the Islamic limits are reasonable limits, and are (ii) demonstrably justified within the meaning of Section 1 of the Charter on these grounds: a) The provision of the Preamble regarding the Supremacy of God, b) the constitutional obligation to interpreted in a manner consistent with the preservation and enhancement of the multicultural heritage of Canadians, c) that over one billion people (Muslims) worldwide consider those limits to the freedom of speech/expression to be reasonable, d)(i)what such a large segment of the Canadian minority believes as a precept of their faith/religion ought to be fully recognized if the Charter’s provision respecting freedom of religion are to have any real meaning. (ii) Adherence to Islamic principles in this context, ought to be accepted as sufficient enough to satisfy the Charter Requirement of demonstrable justification. Recognition of Islamic standards of reasonable limits on the freedom of speech by the Canadian courts does not necessarily entail any obligation to enforce the Islamic punishment for blasphemy/apostasy within the Canadian jurisdiction. The Muslims themselves (with the exception of the small Shi’ite minority) do not generally believe or insist on any extraterritorial rights to enforce Islamic Hadd punishment in non-Islamic countries. (See footnote 1, under II, Abingdon Dictionary of Living Religions).

Therefore, it seems logical and reasonable that when dealing with situations which involve Islamic Blasphemy, the Canadian courts, in all fairness, must also determine the issue of the reasonableness of the limits on the freedom of speech and the issue of demonstrable justification in accordance with the sensibilities of the whole Muslim Community/Ummah. Muslims adhere to the Islamic religious principles underlying their laws, which according to them, are legislated under the very authority of the Real Sovereign, the ‘God’, Who is also recognized by the Charter Preamble.

Failing to do so will be a flagrant breach of equality rights under Section 15(1) of the Charter. Because of this failure, Muslims will not be given the equal protection and equal benefit of the law and they will not be treated as equal before and under the law. Indeed, Muslims will thus be discriminated against on the basis of race, national or ethnic origin, colour and especially religion. All such diverse people as those who follow the Islamic religious tradition, despite their various race and ethnic origin are one people.

Failing to interpret the guaranteed rights and freedoms of Muslims, in accordance with the true spirit of multiculturalism results in the effective denial of this fundamental philosophy of the Canadian constitution. This is a tragic departure from that cherished ‘tolerance’ (the real tolerance) which is the distinguishing quality of a cultured people. The more tolerant a nation, the more cultured its people will be. With this measure of cultural excellence, Canada does hold a place of honour in the nations of the world and indeed we proudly stand head and shoulders above so many other nations. What a sad thing it would be to not appreciate the necessity of inculcating this multicultural philosophy into our daily lives. How else can human beings become civilized enough to be able to claim that they do actually respect other cultures and wish to co-exist with them.