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		<title>“…and lo, I looked, and the Pale Horseman did pick up a few bucks on the side…”</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 04:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I&#8217;m going to go a bit off-script here, and throw out a rant.  A rant that, despite truly heroic efforts on the part of my inhibitory circuits, I simply cannot withhold.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but what the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post about how to [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&#38;blog=845100&#38;post=3813&#38;subd=agnosticatheism&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;m going to go a bit off-script here, and throw out a rant.  A rant that, despite truly heroic efforts on the part of my inhibitory circuits, I simply cannot withhold.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but what the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post about how to handle Facebook.  A personal aside, if you will.</p>
<p>One of my relatives just posted this link on their FB page, that showed up in my newsfeed: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j321v_3dwUM">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j321v_3dwUM</a>.</p>
<p>It shows a scene from the recent unrest in Egypt in which, due to either a lens-flare or Photoshop prankster &#8212; and really, who the hell cares which, the ghostly image (well, kinda sorta, if you squint real hard) of a horse and rider appears to move through the crowd.</p>
<p>Needless to say, the people posting this and commenting on it are getting &#8220;goose bumps&#8221; and &#8220;chills&#8221; declaring for all to know that &#8220;God is REAL!!&#8221;  It is, they are quite sure, one of the Horsemen of the Apocalypse.  These are very nice people, and they are not kidding.</p>
<p>Oh, dear me.</p>
<p>All I can say is that its striking, unsettling, and not a little scary just how credulous people can be.  I&#8217;ve been a skeptic so long I tend to forget that. I tend to hang around atheists and agnostics, or at least fairly nonreligious people.  I read nonreligious books and blogs.  It&#8217;s easy to loose touch with how almost indescribably, painfully eager some people are to <em>believe</em>.  I mean criminy &#8211; even from within the framework of an evangelical Christian worldview, there is nothing whatsoever that requires one to believe that this video is real.  It&#8217;s a Horseman of the Apocalypse?  Seriously?  Is that <em>really</em> the best explanation here <em>&#8211; even if you are a Christian, </em>does that even make sense?  Wouldn&#8217;t one expect a Horseman of the Apocalypse to be more, well, apocalyptic than that?  What, is he the Horseman of Crowd Control? Conquest, War, Famine, and uh, Teargas? Are they moonlighting, maybe?</p>
<p>(For the record, I did not myself comment on this FB thread.  That would be an unpleasant experience for all, shall we say.)</p>
<p>It is times like these that I am very grateful for online communities such as this one.  It can be very lonely out there.  Skeptics are still, despite everything, a rare breed.  More than that, critical thinking itself is a rare skill.  Their interpretation of this video is nonsensical even from within their worldview.  It just packs an emotional punch, so it must be true. It&#8217;s kind of amazing our species has made it this long.</p>
<p>Okay, &lt;whew&gt;  I feel better. Thanks for indulging! I can wipe the spittle off my computer now!</p>
<p><em>- Richard</em></p>
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		<title>On Certainty, part II: Behind Good and Evil</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/17/on-certainty-part-ii-behind-good-and-evil/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 05:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That certainty is a function of psychology is also the conclusion of Dr. Robert Burton, a neurologist has written an entire book on this phenomenon (On Being Certain). His suggestion, to summarize briefly, is that the feeling of certainty, what he calls the feeling of knowing, is simply a mental state, a kind of unconscious [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&#38;blog=845100&#38;post=3806&#38;subd=agnosticatheism&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That certainty is a function of psychology is also the conclusion of Dr. Robert Burton, a neurologist has written an entire book on this phenomenon (<em>On Being Certain</em>). His suggestion, to summarize briefly, is that the feeling of certainty, what he calls the <em>feeling of knowing</em>, is simply a mental state, a kind of unconscious mental self-assessment.  We don’t really have a good word for what this is, but it’s more like an emotion than anything else. The closest analog would be the feeling of familiarity, the mental sensation of recognition that we have all the time but only become aware of when it misfires: <em>déjà vu</em>. <em>Déjà vu</em> is a feeling that something (like a situation) is familiar when, in fact, we know it is not. He suggests the brain creates these sensations as a kind of self-assessment, to help guide behavior.  The feeling of knowing – certainty – is the mind’s unconscious assessment of its confidence in its conclusions.  It is something like the way some search engines give you a list of results with a percentage estimate of how close it calculates the match to be (yet, of course, can often fail to turn up what you’re looking for, despite a high-probability assessment). Certainty, then, is a feeling. It is not, somehow, some epistemological guarantor of truth. </p>
<p>Burton has a lot more to say about this, including the neurochemical basis for this sensation.  He suggests that similar to the way some people are more prone than others to getting a mental “high” from gambling that makes it, for them, very rewarding/reinforcing (and for some, even addicting), perhaps some people are just wired to be more rewarded by, or even addicted to, this feeling.  Maybe some people are just wired to “need” the feeling of certainty more, or at least, to find it more irresistible. It’s a fascinating idea, and I think the core of his explanation here is excellent.</p>
<p>To me, though, it does leave some important connections unexplored.  I can’t help but notice that certainty seems to come part-and-parcel with strong ideologies, like religion, or “purist” political movements.  I don’t think this is accidental. So I will here add my own suggestion to account for this and then let the matter alone.  In the next article, the third of three, I want to talk about practical issues involved in dealing with uncertainty, which is more straightforward and more directly germane to de-conversion.  Learning how to manage uncertainty anxiety does not directly depend on understanding where such certainty came from in the first place.  But for what food for thought it might provide, here is my suggestion about the origin of this striking phenomenon of certainty within fundamentalism:</p>
<p>Many observers have noted the phenomenon known as <em>splitting, </em>or (in cognitive psychology)<em> dichotomous thinking </em>that seems pervasive in fundamentalism: the division of the world, and the self, into good parts and bad parts.  In fundamentalism, such divisions are rampant.  The world is a battleground between Good and Evil, there are clear good guys and bad guys, there are clear moral Absolutes, and “spiritual warfare” is often taken quite seriously.  And importantly, one’s own self is understood in pre-conversion and post-conversion terms.  Before conversion, corruption, sin and death were rampant. Post-conversion, the self is purified, regenerate, and redeemed.  The contrast is sharp and clear.</p>
<p>(Notably, this is not unique to fundamentalism or even religion. Those on the extreme right or left, those that have been part of political ideologies such as Marxism, or Nazism, and those that partake of conspiracy theories all “split” every bit as much.)</p>
<p>The organization of experience by drawing stark good/bad distinctions is common, and it seems to be built into our psyche, at least to a degree.  Young children almost universally do this, and it is only gradually that they come to realize – and, importantly, be able to <em>tolerate</em> – the idea that the world is more complex and nuanced than that. It has been suggested that beneath even our “primary” emotions (love, fear, anger, etc), are two even more basic ones: good/bad, and important/unimportant. </p>
<p>Nuance, complexity, and ambiguity create anxiety.  They are thus difficult to tolerate. It is difficult to be faced with a complex moral issue about which there is no good, clear, unambiguous answer, only a set of tradeoffs and gray areas.  Without a world full of good guys and bad guys it is hard to know who to trust. Without moral absolutes it is hard to know what is right.  It means that one has no choice but to fall back on one’s own resources, to think it through as best one can, and make an imperfect decision, fully aware that it may turn out to be wrong. It is frightening, and not to mention very <em>sad</em>, to realize that all we have is a world full of struggling, imperfect people, not larger-than-life Heroes.</p>
<p>Splitting (which is, obviously, unconscious) alleviates all this confusion and anxiety.  It means that even if you are faced with mixed, contradictory, confusing, or complicated information, if you can just figure out who to trust – or, as works equally well, who<em> not</em> to trust – you can proceed with confidence.  It means you never have to be unsure about whether there is a morally right answer or not. Even if your decision turns out to have undesirable consequences, at least you can rest assured you did the right thing.</p>
<p>Splitting/dichotomous thinking is thus a way to quickly sort out two of the most fundamental questions in living: (1) What is true?  (2) What is good?  It is thus a way to make sense of a complex and uncertain world. It is in part, however, that very uncertainty that is in the world – knowing what is true, or what is right – that is the problem.  Retreating to this more primitive (developmentally) way of experiencing the world is an extremely effective solution to this problem.  Splitting eliminates doubt, fear, confusion, and the need to autonomous decision making (also a source of anxiety) – and thus creates, or at least allows, feelings of certainty: the world makes sense again.</p>
<p>A corollary to this idea is that splitting thus explains the way ideologues view their opponents.  Think of the way Pat Robertson sees secular humanists, or the way Rush Limbaugh sees liberals.  They do not see them as reasonable, conscientious, well-informed people with whom they happen to disagree.  They see them, instead, as at best stupid, more likely actively malicious.  Haters of the Good.</p>
<p>This is no accident.  If the world has been rendered stark and clear, then there must be some reason why not everyone agrees with you.  It can’t be because the issues are complex and there is room for rational and moral disagreement, because there isn’t; that’s the point.  It can’t be because reasonable people differ.  To see someone else disagree with your most passionate beliefs, and conclude that this person must have reasonable cause to do so, implies that your passionate belief is not as clear and certain as you want it to be, as you are trying to<em> make</em> it be, as you <em>need </em>it to be. Splitting thus involves an inability to truly step inside the worldview of another and see what might be valid reasons for their conclusions.  You cannot see other’s complexity, because, simply, it makes the whole world too threatening.  This explains the cartoon quality that characterizes the worldviews of religious extremists – their worlds are filled with Heroes and Villains – Villains who must be defeated, because they are enemies of the Good. Someone who has, with certainty, banished all complexity from the Cosmic Order can see the world no other way.</p>
<p>Thus, my stab at the certainty question is to suggest that certainty is the intellectual and cognitive concomitant to the splitting that is basic to the way fundamentalism deals with the anxieties of being human. Fundamentalists must deal somehow with the anxiety that is due to being frail, limited human beings in a world we cannot control, and they do so by dividing the world into good and bad – or, more accurately, Good and Bad.  To be uncertain is to feel vulnerable and potentially guilty of wrongdoing or morally directionless.  To split the world into a Manichean battleground, and then to align oneself with the forces of Good, is to no longer feel vulnerable or fear violating group norms.  And hence, is to be certain.</p>
<p>So much for armchair models.  That an $4.95 will get you a Venti iced vanilla mocha at Starbuck’s. Now, let’s look at what someone in the midst of deconversion can actually do to start making her or his peace with this grayness and uncertainty that is, despite our sometime best efforts, an inescapable part of human life.</p>
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		<title>Are You Sure You’re Sure?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jan 2011 04:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ask any former fundamentalist Christian what was the hardest thing about giving up the faith, and many of them are likely to tell you that at least part of it was the loss of certainty: a fundamentalist knows, not believes, but knows, beyond all possibility of doubt or error, what the Truth is.  Those who [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&#38;blog=845100&#38;post=3801&#38;subd=agnosticatheism&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ask any former fundamentalist Christian what was the hardest thing about giving up the faith, and many of them are likely to tell you that at least part of it was the <em>loss of certainty</em>: a fundamentalist knows, not believes, but <em>knows</em>, beyond all possibility of doubt or error, what the Truth is.  Those who have never been tempted by fundamentalism are often mystified by this aspect of it, for nowhere else in human experience is this degree of certainty thought possible or even necessary.  For them, this way of thinking is probably so alien as to be unable to be taken seriously as an option.  We can all be wrong, about anything.  Everybody knows that.</p>
<p> But not everybody.  Certainty is near to the heart of most if not all fundamentalisms, and it’s intuitive appeal is not hard to see.  To know for sure what is true about the world and where it is headed, and moreover, where <em>oneself </em>is headed, to know for sure one’s purpose in life, and to know with perfect knowledge that one is loved and adored and will be protected in perfect bliss forever – all this needs no apologist to make it appealing. </p>
<p>For those of us who leave fundamentalism, learning to deal with doubt and uncertainty – which suddenly and in a most unwelcome way take up permanent residence in our psyches – can be wrenching indeed.  It is a much harder way to live.  Why is it harder?  Well, for one, it is not exactly galvanizing to raise up ones fist with a crusader’s fervency and chant: “We’re Not Sure!”  But there is an even better answer, I think.  Certainty is, I suggest, at the center of the fundamentalist psyche because it serves to ward off the primal dread, helplessness – the gut sense of human limitation and vulnerability that is our biological heritage as physically weak and therefore interdependent social primates. This anxiety, basic to life, is both ordinary and terrifying. We are frail creatures, really.  Each of us knows this.  What better way to prop up our flagging courage than telling ourselves extraordinary stories of Specialness and Rescue?  And what good are the stories if they are mere stories, or, just as bad, if they are merely <em>probable</em>?  When one is alone in the dark, the prospect of <em>probable </em>rescue doesn’t steel the nerve much.  Only certainty can do that.</p>
<p> So how does one learn live with uncertainty about life?  How do we make our peace with our vast limitations, individually and collectively, in what we can know, predict, accomplish, or ward off?  How do we accept the horrifying and everpresent possibility of being wrong, even and especially about things that are important – our ethics, our meanings, our ultimate fate?  These are the questions I want to explore here.</p>
<p> I have my own proposal for why certainty exists in fundamentalism.  It has to do with the basic psychology that I think drives the fundamentalist psyche.  This model is my own construction, though it is drawn together from various other (perhaps more reputable&#8230;) psychological sources.  From what I can tell, no one really knows why such rigid and weird certainty is claimed by so many adherents of so many different religious fundamentalisms.</p>
<p> Its not epistemological, that much is clear.  Certainty exists very infrequently within most accounts of knowledge.  Generally speaking, it occurs only within what is formally known as <em>deductive logic</em>, the kind of logical reasoning wherein the conclusion is in a sense “contained” within the premises.  For instance, consider the classic syllogism: “Socrates is a man, all men are mortal, therefore Socrates is mortal.”  If the first two statements are true, you know that the third, the conclusion, <em>must </em>be true.  It is <em>certain </em>because it is essentially just a rearrangement of the premises.</p>
<p> The overwhelming majority of everyday and scientific reasoning is not like that.  Most of the time we employ what is known as <em>inductive reasoning</em>, where the conclusion is supported by the premises, but not guaranteed by it. “The early bird usually gets the worm, here is an early bird, therefore he is likely to be well-fed” would be a (somewhat silly) example. The conclusions follows, but only probabilistically – not certainly – from the premises. Perhaps there have been no worms available recently.                                             </p>
<p> Again, it is important to emphasize that virtually all scientific and historical theories overwhelmingly use inductive reasoning.  Few scientific theories could ever be properly said to be certain, no matter how much evidence accrues in their support. Not even Newton’s Laws are certain – any honest scientist will tell you they are open to empirical revision if such data comes in. </p>
<p> Moreover, certainty has been claimed by many religious and ideological adherents, as well as every conspiracy theorist on the planet.  Logically, they can’t all be right.  Logically, in fact, it must be the case that the majority of people who claim perfect certainty in their conclusions, are in fact wrong, and their feeling of being certain must be just that – a feeling.  A feeling, that does not feel like a feeling; that feels, rather, like an accurate assessment of the world.</p>
<p> So, it is not epistemological, it is a psychological.  Believers have something going on inside their emotional and psychic lives that makes them feel so strikingly sure.  But whatever it is, its not rational.  In the next installment of this three part series, I’ll look at some possible explanations for this psychological curiosity.</p>
<p>- <em>Richard</em></p>
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		<title>Peace or the Sword?</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Jan 2011 02:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“Dear Abby” I want to take a moment to put before our community here an issue that has come up for me recently.  It’s a small question, but I think ties into something bigger.  I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts. I just recently entered the 21st century, and joined Facebook.  The last filaments of my [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&#38;blog=845100&#38;post=3797&#38;subd=agnosticatheism&#38;ref=&#38;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“Dear Abby”</p>
<p>I want to take a moment to put before our community here an issue that has come up for me recently.  It’s a small question, but I think ties into something bigger.  I’d love to hear everyone’s thoughts.</p>
<p>I just recently entered the 21<sup>st</sup> century, and joined Facebook.  The last filaments of my SNL (Social Networking Luddite) resistance eroded away as I decided that, [huffily] okay <em>fine</em>, it really <em>is </em>a pretty good way to keep up with friends and family whom I would otherwise rarely see. </p>
<p> So, now I’m on Facebook. My family, too, is on Facebook.  My saved, Bible-believing, churchgoing, Christian-rock-listenin’, Sarah-Palin-lovin’, Obama-can’t-standin’, fundamentalist family.   And you can be sure of that, because their profile (not to mention “status” updates) say so.</p>
<p> Me…. well, now, not so much. Now, my FB profile could – <em>could</em> – if written for full disclosure, accurately say something like (one could mix and match here, so take your pick): secular, atheist-leaning agnostic, humanist, religious naturalist, and liberal/progressive, existentialist, militant agnostic (“I don’t know and neither do you”), and, of course, <em>Arrested Development</em> fan.</p>
<p> There are more contrasts to be had, too, when you get to the likes and dislikes sections.  I do not have a favorite book of devotionals or apologetics. I do not watch Fox.  Ever. I do not write “Happy Birthday Jesus” on Christmas day. I dislike C. S. Lewis and have no favorite scripture.   Instead, my favorite quote (or one of them) would be from Nietzsche:</p>
<p><em>But I am one who can bless and say Yes, if only you are about me, pure and light, you abyss of light; then I carry the blessings of my Yes into all abysses.  I have become one who blesses and says Yes; and I fought long for that and was a fighter that I might one day get my hands free to bless.  But this is my blessing: to stand over every single thing as its own heaven, as its round roof, its azure bell, and eternal security; and blessed is he who blesses thus.</em></p>
<p> My profile could say these things.  But it does not.  Nor do I put up posts and updates about something exciting I just read from Carl Sagan or Richard Dawkins, or something interesting I learned from Bart Ehrman or Robert Price. I deliberately stay away from anything strongly religious or political.  I do not link to anything I write on this blog.  I know that, essentially, when on FB you are in mixed company.  Many people will see what you write.  Given the intensity of their views, and, frankly, the prickliness of their views, many of my family and friends would be very upset indeed at the sort of things I have to say. So I restrain myself.  I try to keep it light, try not to offend.  Even if it means downplaying who I am and what I really think.  I hold back.</p>
<p>But they don’t.  My family and extended family put up religious (and political – strongly conservative) posts all the time.  They make not the slightest pretense of holding back.</p>
<p> Now, it doesn’t bother me so much what their views are.  It’s not the content, in other words.  I know what they believe and I expect lots of Jesus-this and Jesus-that.  The rub for me is that it does not seem even to <em>occur </em>to them to refrain, <strong><em>as I do,</em></strong> for the sake of not ruffling feathers.  They know, broadly at least, what I think and what my opinions are, and <em>in person</em> we have an unspoken agreement to simply not talk about sensitive matters. But on FB, it’s damn the torpedoes, full creed ahead.</p>
<p> So my question is simply this: they do not make any effort to downplay or even tone down their views for my sake.   Should<em> I</em>?  So far, I am of two minds about this.  One the one hand, part of me feels I shouldn’t tone down, anything, at all, beyond what one might normally do in a public forum.  Just be me and write whatever I think, whether it’s religious, anti-religious, political, gallows humor, or none of the above. It may cause friction, and if so we’ll either work that out or we won’t, but regardless, being a secular humanist, atheist/agnostic, or whatever is nothing to be ashamed of and I should not treat it as such.</p>
<p>On the other hand, just who am I trying to model myself after here?  Why should I aim deliberately to mimic this wear-one’s-ideology-on-one’s –sleeve mentality that I, frankly, can’t stand?  Being an atheist is not the most important thing about me.  It is the absence of theistic belief, not an organizing theme for a life. Besides, I kind of suspect that those who feel the need to publically, and over and over, affirm their beliefs are too wrapped up in (and insecure about) their own identity.  Why go around declaring yourself to be this or that?  That’s insecurity, and it’s off-putting to others, and it’s kind of pointless.   It’s like saying, “Don’t forget – I’m a Christian!! Don’t forget!!”  And moreover, I do think it’s kind of incumbent upon liberals – valuing tolerance and pluralism as we do – to be more sensitive to these matters and to make a greater effort to avoid pointless, arbitrary divisiveness and tribalism.</p>
<p>Now, I know that FB is not such a big deal.  It doesn’t really matter whether I put a Nietzsche quote in my profile or not.  But it <em>does</em> have to do, I think, with how we present ourselves, as atheists, agnostics, and humanists, as nonbelievers, as deconverts, to our families and to the world.  If we hold back for the sake of peace, are we confident and mature, with a healthy dose of perspective, or merely lacking in resolve?  Conversely, if we let it all hang out, are we simply being true to ourselves and claiming our rightful place in this pluralistic society, or are we being somewhat self-centered jerks, more interested in spouting off about me, me, me, than we are in our lives and our relationships and the things that really matter?</p>
<p>I don’t know the answer.  What say you?</p>
<p>Richard</p>
<p>“Perplexed About His Profile”</p>
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		<title>Church appologies to Darwin</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2008/09/15/church-appologises-to-darwin/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 12:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve posted anything here (loads of things going on giving me very little time to write!), but an article I read today really caught my eye. The Church of England is going to officially appologise to Darwin for &#8220;misunderstanding (him) and, by getting (their) first reaction wrong, encouraging [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s been a while since I&#8217;ve posted anything here (loads of things going on giving me very little time to write!), but an article I read today really caught my eye. The <a title="Church says sorry to Charles Darwin @ news.com.au" href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24345546-5005961,00.html">Church of England is going to officially appologise to Darwin</a> for &#8220;misunderstanding (him) and, by getting (their) first reaction wrong, encouraging others to misunderstand (him) still&#8221;.</p>
<p>While this is certainly a very late appology, and only a tiny step in the right direction, I can&#8217;t help but wonder how this might affect the disturbing popularity of creationism. While I obviously don&#8217;t agree with many (if not all) of the views of the Christian churches, they&#8217;re in a much more powerful position to fight against creationism than any secular or atheist organisation. I certainly don&#8217;t expect the church to come around in another 126 years and say they were wrong about God existing, but if we can at least aim to weed out the most dangerous beliefs, perhaps rational thought might have some hope of a future.</p>
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		<title>How Small We Are</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2008/03/16/how-small-we-are/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find one of the most arrogant claims that religion makes is that we are somehow special &#8211; the &#8220;centre of the universe&#8221;, so to speak. While (most) religions have rejected the idea that the earth is the centre of our solar system, the very idea that the creator of the universe would single out [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find one of the most arrogant claims that religion makes is that we are somehow special &#8211; the &#8220;centre of the universe&#8221;, so to speak. While (most) religions have rejected the idea that the earth is the centre of our solar system, the very idea that the creator of the universe would single out one small planet in some distant corner of his creation to be &#8220;special&#8221; seems absurdly arrogant. Carl Sagan describes this arrogance as &#8220;our imagined self-importance&#8221;, and &#8220;the delusion that we have some privileged position in the universe&#8221;. While I think Sagan&#8217;s description still remains the greatest demonstration of how insignificant we really are (with <a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8tmLvzubP3I" title="Monty Python: The Galaxy Song">Monty Python</a> coming a close second), I saw this picture just recently which I though demonstrated it quite well too:</p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/planets.gif" title="Planets Animation (click to show image in full screen)"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/planets.gif" alt="The Planets" height="300" width="400" /><br />
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<p>I&#8217;m sure anyone who visits this site has already seen Carl Sagan&#8217;s &#8220;Pale Blue Dot&#8221;, but I&#8217;m going to post it here again anyway, because it always manages to put me in my place each time I watch it.</p>
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<p>(<a href="http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=p86BPM1GV8M" title="Pale Blue Dot">link to video</a>)</p>
<p>Can anyone honestly say that &#8220;God&#8221; created all of this just for us?</p>
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		<title>Organised Atheism</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/10/21/organised-atheism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2007 23:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been holding off talking about Richard Dawkins&#8217; &#8220;Out Campaign&#8221; for a while (yes, it&#8217;s probably all died down by now &#8211; you&#8217;ve either got a scarlet &#8220;A&#8221; on your t-shirt, website, car and baby, or you don&#8217;t) because I still haven&#8217;t figured out what I really think about it. On one hand, I applaud [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://digg.com/music/There_is_no_God_Spice_Girls_are_back_together_again_announce_reunion" title="There is no God: Spice Girls are Back Together Again @ Digg"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/nospicegirlst-320x200.png" title="There is no God: Spice Girls are Back Together Again @ Digg" alt="There is no God: Spice Girls are Back Together Again @ Digg" style="float: right" height="200" width="200" /></a>I&#8217;ve been holding off talking about <a href="http://outcampaign.org/" title="OutCampaign.org">Richard Dawkins&#8217; &#8220;Out Campaign&#8221;</a> for a while (yes, it&#8217;s probably all died down by now &#8211; you&#8217;ve either got a scarlet &#8220;A&#8221; on your t-shirt, website, car and baby, or you don&#8217;t) because I still haven&#8217;t figured out what I really think about it.  On one hand, I applaud the effort to bring atheists together and to &#8220;out&#8221; themselves, but on the other, I <a href="http://20gramsoul.com/2007/07/30/atheist-as-a-label/" title="Atheist as a Label @ 20 gram Soul">still see the label &#8220;Atheist&#8221; as useful as &#8220;non-chocolate lover&#8221;</a> or non-spice girls fan<sup>1</sup>.</p>
<p>Of course, the use of the word &#8220;atheist&#8221; (and therefore the need to &#8220;out&#8221; oneself) has been stirred up recently by <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/01/atheist-alliance-international-convention-2007-recap/" title="Atheist Alliance Recap @ Friendly Atheist">Sam Harris at an Atheist Alliance</a> conference in Washington<sup>2</sup> &#8211; there are no &#8220;non-racists&#8221;, so &#8220;why are we defining ourselves by something that should simply be the case&#8221;<sup>3</sup>?</p>
<p>Every political or social group have certain beliefs and/or interests in common. A football team shares a love of sports, and possibly a belief that football is a worthwhile pursuit. A political group might share certain values and beliefs about how a society should function. A religion, well, they often share beliefs about a great many things: politics, sexuality, family values, etc. But more importantly &#8211; they share a belief in a supernatural being (or spirit, or afterlife, etc.).</p>
<p>What do atheists share? Nothing. Many of us can&#8217;t even agree on a <a href="http://20gramsoul.com/2007/07/15/soft-atheist-hard-agnostic/" title="Soft Atheist, Hard Agnostic @ 20 gram Soul">definition of Atheism</a>! I don&#8217;t mean to say that there&#8217;s nothing that we share, but what we <em>do</em> share is, quite literally, &#8220;nothing&#8221; &#8211; we share a nonexistent thing<sup>4</sup>: a lack of a belief in God. While this probably gives us a more common understanding of God than most religious people (even within the same religion or denomination, it seems every person has their own understanding of exactly what or who God is), this doesn&#8217;t seem to be a great foundation for an alliance.</p>
<p>Am I going to &#8220;come out&#8221;, well &#8211; yes, and no. I am without religion. I am, therefore, an atheist. I am also without racism, and am therefore non-racist. I have never killed anyone, and am therefore a non-murderer. I further have no love for chocolate<sup>5</sup>, no love of ABBA or the <a href="http://digg.com/music/There_is_no_God_Spice_Girls_are_back_together_again_announce_reunion" title="There is no God: Spice Girls are Back Together Again @ Digg">Spice Girls</a>  and most certainly no belief in fairies or celestial teapots. If you wish to define me by any of these &#8220;labels&#8221;, feel free &#8211; but I certainly don&#8217;t.</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_88" class="footnote">Harris explains it much better than I could on <a href="http://www.samharris.org/site/full_text/response-to-my-fellow-atheists/" title="Response to my Fellow 'Atheists' @ Sam Harris">his website</a></li><li id="footnote_1_88" class="footnote">Partial transcript available at <a href="http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/sam_harris/2007/10/the_problem_with_atheism.html">Washington Post</a></li><li id="footnote_2_88" class="footnote">Hemant Mehta (Oct 1, 2007) <a href="http://friendlyatheist.com/2007/10/01/atheist-alliance-international-convention-2007-recap/" title="Atheist Alliance International Convention (Recap) @ The Friendly Atheist">Atheist Alliance International Convention 2007 (Recap)</a></li><li id="footnote_3_88" class="footnote"><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=define:nothing" title="Define: Nothing @ Google">Nothing</a> (n) A nonexistent thing</li><li id="footnote_4_88" class="footnote">I wonder if coming out as an atheist, or an non-chocoholic would create more of a stir?</li></ol><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/?ak_action=api_record_view&id=88&type=feed" alt="" />]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>God is Dead: Death, Nietzsche and Atheism</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/10/14/death-nietzsche-and-atheism/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems common to think that Atheists cannot have a positive outlook on life, because the non-existence of god somehow denies life of any meaning. I recently attended a funeral (not someone I knew, but I was there to support the family) followed closely by a wedding. And then, as if it was all part [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems common to think that Atheists cannot have a positive outlook on life, because the non-existence of god somehow denies life of any meaning.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/sobriquet/1557733827/" title="Wedding Cake, by Richard Rosalion"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/imgp2475-320x200.JPG" title="Wedding Cake by Richard Rosalion" alt="Wedding Cake by Richard Rosalion" height="200" width="134" style="float:right" /></a>I recently attended a funeral (not someone I knew, but I was there to support the family) followed closely by a wedding. And then, as if it was all part of some higher plan (irony intended), I find myself listening to <a href="http://www.blubrry.com/atheism/94364/ff-the-philosophy-of-nietzsche-joseph-brisendine/" title="The Philosophy of Nietzsche - Joseph Brisendine @ Blubrry">this podcast</a> which I downloaded a while ago, but hadn&#8217;t got around to listening to yet.</p>
<p>The funeral certainly reminded me of death (which, one might imagine, might be an unpleasant thing to think about), but because of my recent &#8220;brush with death&#8221;, I was able to appreciate the wedding so much more. Knowing that life will end (and will <em>not</em> go on forever, as many religious people might hope for) made the celebration much <em>more</em> special that it might have been otherwise. As Joseph Brisendine explains in the podcast &#8211; how long could you have a orgasm for before it became boring? Life is wonderful precisely <em>because</em> it ends.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0486452468&tag=20gramsoul-20&lcode=xm2&cID=2025&ccmID=165953&location=/o/ASIN/0486452468%253FSubscriptionId=1N9AHEAQ2F6SVD97BE02" title="Nietzche: The Gay Science @ Amazon"><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21D7P5MVVWL.jpg" style="float: left" width="101" /></a>If we were to &#8220;transcend&#8221; death, and live in a &#8220;perfect place&#8221; for eternity, nothing in this life would be special or have meaning, because we&#8217;d always be longing for this &#8220;other world&#8221;. And isn&#8217;t this exactly what religion teaches us? Religion (at least the Abrahamic ones, and probably most others) teach of an &#8220;after&#8221; life, which is supposed to be much grander and more fulfilling than this life ever can be.</p>
<p>It is claimed that without &#8220;God&#8221;, life cannot have purpose, but Nietzsche suggests (at least, Brisendine talking about Nietzsche) that it is only <em>without</em> God that this life can have any meaning.</p>
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		<title>Asking for Directions</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/10/11/asking-for-directions/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Non Sequitor seem to come out with some good religious-themed comics. Here&#8217;s another one to add to the list.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non Sequitor seem to come out with some good religious-themed comics. Here&#8217;s another one to add to the list.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gocomics.com/nonsequitur/2007/10/09/" title="Non Seqitor: Asking For Directions @ GoComics"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/askingfordirections.gif" alt="Non Seqitor: Asking For Directions" /></a></p>
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		<title>Christianity 2.0</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/10/08/christianity-20/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Oct 2007 13:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good to see religion doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean being stuck in the dark ages. Now if someone can just update the bible, we&#8217;d be set.
Oh wait, that&#8217;s being done too&#8230;





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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see religion doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean being stuck in the dark ages. Now if someone can just update the bible, we&#8217;d be set.</p>
<p>Oh wait, <a href="http://www.lolcatbible.com" title="LOLcat Bible Wiki">that&#8217;s being done</a> too&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/10/blue_led_cross_cross_20.html" title="Blue LED Cross"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/10/blue_led_cross_cross_20.html" title="Blue LED Cross"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/blueledcross-320x200.jpg" alt="Blue LED Cross" /></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/10/usb_crucifix_helps_usher_in_ch.html" title="USB Crucifix"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/usbcrucifix-320x200.jpg" alt="USB Crucifix" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2007/10/usb_crucifix_helps_usher_in_ch.html"><br />
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		<title>Passive Aggressive Christians</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/09/29/passive-aggressive-christians/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 15:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve you&#8217;ve never come across the site Passive-Aggressive Notes, you&#8217;ve been missing out. It, along with  the &#8220;blog&#8221; of &#8220;unnecessary&#8221; quotation marks always manage to keep me entertained.
One of their recent p...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve you&#8217;ve never come across the site <a href="http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/" title="Passive Aggressive Notes">Passive-Aggressive Notes</a>, you&#8217;ve been missing out. It, along with  <a href="http://quotation-marks.blogspot.com/" title="The "blog" of "unnecessary" quotation marks">the &#8220;blog&#8221; of &#8220;unnecessary&#8221; quotation marks</a> always manage to keep me entertained.</p>
<p>One of their recent posts involved a few lovely Christian themed notes, asking Where Would Jesus Park?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2007/09/27/but-he-took-the-wheel/" title="But He Took The Wheel @ Passive Aggressive Notes">Check them out</a>&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Do Everything Like a Pirate</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/09/19/do-everything-like-a-pirate/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 12:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today was the day when every good Pastafarian (and other pirate loving people) talks like a pirate.  I, however, am a non-practicing Pastafarian, so I don&#8217;t generally observe these religious holidays (there was a pub crawl at Uni to celebrate, but I had to work instead). But that should stop you getting in on the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today was the day when every good <a href="http://www.venganza.org/2007/09/19/talk-like-a-pirate-day-2.htm" title="Talk Like A Pirate Day, 2007 @ venganza.org">Pastafarian</a> (and other pirate loving people) <a href="http://www.talklikeapirateday.com/wordpress/?p=20" title="Talk Like A Pirate Day, 2007 @ talklikeapirateday.com">talks like a pirate</a>.  I, however, am a non-practicing Pastafarian, so I don&#8217;t generally observe these religious holidays (there was a pub crawl at Uni to celebrate, but I had to work instead).</p>
<p>But that should stop you getting in on the act! Even Flickr celebrated the day:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.flickr.com/2007/09/19/here-there-be-dragons/" atomicselection="true"></a></p>
<p style="text-align: center"><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/flickrpirate.jpg" alt="FlickrPirate" /></p>
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<p>If you didn&#8217;t talk like a pirate today, you&#8217;ve only got 364 days until the next time you can &#8220;talk like a pirate and not be entirely insane&#8221;.</p>
<p>So, I&#8217;ve been wondering &#8211; when are all the atheist holidays and festivities?</p>
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		<title>Did Jesus Even Exist?</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/09/16/did-jesus-even-exist/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even though I was never really a Christian (although I looked into it seriously for a year or so), I had always assumed that Jesus was, most likely, a real person. There&#8217;s a common argument1 which goes something like this: &#8220;Either Jesus was crazy, or what he said must have been true. There&#8217;s no evidence [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0060652926&tag=20gramsoul-20&lcode=xm2&cID=2025&ccmID=165953&location=/o/ASIN/0060652926%253FSubscriptionId=1N9AHEAQ2F6SVD97BE02" title="C.S. Lewis - Mere Christianity"><img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/218YMGHEXHL.jpg" alt="C.S. Lewis - Mere Christianity" style="float: left" width="106" /></a>Even though I was never really a Christian (although I looked into it seriously for a year or so), I had always assumed that Jesus was, most likely, a real person. There&#8217;s a common argument<sup>1</sup> which goes something like this:<br />
&#8220;Either Jesus was crazy, or what he said must have been true. There&#8217;s no evidence he was crazy, therefore he must be the son of God&#8221;. Sure, there are plenty of other responses to this argument, but I think the two simplest ones are:</p>
<ol>
<li>Jesus was misquoted, or misconstrued</li>
<li>Jesus never actually existed</li>
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<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html%3FASIN=0609807986&tag=20gramsoul-20&lcode=xm2&cID=2025&ccmID=165953&location=/o/ASIN/0609807986%253FSubscriptionId=1N9AHEAQ2F6SVD97BE02" title="The Jesus Mysteries: Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God?"><img src="http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/211X67Z6BXL.jpg" alt="The Jesus Mysteries: Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God?" style="float: right" width="91" /></a>I still maintain that if Jesus did actually exist, he would be quite unhappy about <a href="http://20gramsoul.com/2007/08/05/what-would-jesus-believe/" title="What Would Jesus Believe? @ 20 gram Soul">how his teachings have been butchered</a> and interpreted today. So in some sense, I still believe the first option is quite likely. I had not, however (until recently) actually seriously considered the possibility that Jesus didn&#8217;t actually exist.</p>
<p>The bible talks about people we <em>know</em> existed, right? Various Kings and so forth? So, it&#8217;s fair to assume that Jesus also existed? Given that Jesus is such a central part of the Christian mythology, Christianity would fall if it could be demonstrated that Jesus was simply a myth, right (please, correct me if I&#8217;m wrong)? Well, this might just be true!</p>
<p>I first came across <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQLD59fK_Iw" title="The Solar Messiahs God's Sun Christ Horus @ YouTube">these</a> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqP5KdYKFB0" title="Jesus pagan solar deity god's sun Zeitgeist @ YouTube">two</a> YouTube videos<sup>2</sup> a while back, and it made me realise that, if true, it would be an amazing coincidence if he actually existed (of course, perhaps that was God&#8217;s plan to make Jesus even more difficult to believe, thus requiring <em>more </em>faith). Dionysus (one of the figures discussed in the videos) was supposedly born of a virgin, fathered by the king of heaven, turned water into wine, died and resurrected. Sound familiar? There are, apparently, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris-Dionysus" title="Osiris-Dionysus @ Wikipedia">many other mythical figures</a> who have extraordinarily similar stories &#8211; all of which predate Jesus.</p>
<p>There seem to be many others out there who claim similar things, and while there is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jesus_Mysteries#Criticism_and_Support" title="The Jesus Mysteries @ Wikipedia">some criticism of some of these claims</a>, there are, undoubtedly <em>some</em> parts of the Jesus story which were &#8220;borrowed&#8221; from earlier myths.</p>
<p>I plan to investigate this further, as I don&#8217;t believe it&#8217;s <em>quite </em>as clear as is suggested, but I wonder &#8211; how much of Jesus&#8217; life has to be true for Christianity to remain?</p>
<ol class="footnotes"><li id="footnote_0_55" class="footnote">I think it might have originally been by C. S. Lewis, although I could be wrong</li><li id="footnote_1_55" class="footnote">Both videos are short clips from <a href="http://zeitgeistmovie.com/" title="Zeitgeist Movie">Zeitgeist &#8211; The Movie</a>, available in its entirety via BitTorrent (legally!), streamed via Google Video, or for order on DVD</li></ol><img src="http://20gramsoul.com/?ak_action=api_record_view&id=55&type=feed" alt="" />]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end</title>
		<link>http://20gramsoul.com/2007/09/10/logic-is-the-beginning-of-wisdom/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems this quiz is doing the rounds at the moment. You Are Incredibly Logical &#160; &#160; Move over Spock &#8211; you&#8217;re the new master of logic You think rationally, clearly, and quickly. A seasoned problem solver, your mind is like a computer! &#160; How Logical Are You?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems this quiz is <a href="http://barefootbum.blogspot.com/2007/09/im-logical.html">doing</a> the <a href="http://toomanytribbles.blogspot.com/2007/09/fascinating.html">rounds</a> at the moment.</p>
<p align="center"><strong>You Are Incredibly Logical</strong></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center"><img src="http://images.blogthings.com/howlogicalareyouquiz/logic.gif" title="Logical" alt="Logical" height="100" width="100" /></p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">Move over Spock &#8211; you&#8217;re the new master of logic<br />
You think rationally, clearly, and quickly.<br />
A seasoned problem solver, your mind is like a computer!</p>
<p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center"><a href="http://www.blogthings.com/howlogicalareyouquiz/">How Logical Are You?</a></p>
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