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" The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weakness, the Bible is a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can change this."
This oppinion was revealed in a recently published letter to Eric Gutkind in 1954.
And Hitler said:
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]
Despite this my challenge still goes out to all the non-rationalists out there. You can still convert me and make me a believer, perhaps in a few minutes. Just present me with just a teenzy-weenzy bit of consistent, reliable evidence for the existence of your god.
Lying for Jesus
In the Guardian today Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor is quoted as saying
“The interesting question about atheism is, what is the theism being denied? Have you ever met anyone who believes what Richard Dawkins does not believe in? The God that is being rejected is a God I don’t believe in either.”
I have read several books by atheists such as Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens and for eleven years attended two Church of England schools and a Methodist Sunday School whilst my son spent three years in a Church of England school and nine years in Catholic faith schools so I am well placed to comment on who believes what.
Over my own eleven years in faith schools I was routinely told that there is a supernatural being watching over us, that if I pray this same entity will be listening, that the resurrection was literally true, that a virgin gave birth, that a disembodied voice from a place they called heaven spoke to people and handed down instructions which we must obey and much more similar nonsense.
These are just examples of the theology being denied by modern rationalists. But I and hundreds of my unfortunate schoolmates were told all of it was true, not just once but daily, over and over again through assemblies, enforced prayer, bible readings and hymns. It was not just one believer who was allowed to pound us with this nonsense but, over the years, thousands of children were subjected to this risible garbage by hundreds of religious believers.
According to the Cardinal much of this is no longer believed by the major church institutions and that throughout my own and my sons childhood hundreds of Christians have been lying about what they believed. Or perhaps the Cardinal is wrong about the religious teaching going on in his churches and faith schools.
What I want to know is, who is lying for Jesus this time.
Many illnesses are diagnosed only by their symptoms. There are, as yet, no clinical tests for conditions such as schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. From the standpoint of the “faithful” perhaps religion is not an illness, if only because the victims fail to recognise that there is anything wrong with their thought processes. (A similar situation occurs with other mental illnesses.)
However, as a hard line atheist I choose to regard those with religion as ill or diseased. This allows me to have compassion for them whilst having a complete contempt for their affliction. I find it easier to reconcile the fact that so many people I might otherwise respect, some scientists for example, uphold some risible supernatural beliefs. A disease can afflict the clever, the stupid, the old, the young, the ugly and the beautiful.
Like a disease, religion has to be tolerated, or managed, because we do not know how to eradicate it. At the same time we have a moral duty to prevent the infected from spreading it to other people.
The Times reports that the pope has added seven more mortal sins to the list. Two of them are “the excessive accumulation of wealth by a few” and “social injustice which caused poverty”. Perhaps he should look at the vast wealth in land and property resources held by the churches. In most English towns and villages acres of prime land are set aside for the occasional wailing and moaning of a deluded few believers to their non-existent deity. There are so few of them that in most places they would easily fit into a shed thus releasing part of this hoard for the benefit of those most in need of it.
The Pope also complained that an increasing number of people in the secularised West were “making do without God”. True. I also make do without unicorns or pixies. What he is really complaining about is that we make do without him and his leaching priesthood.
He complains about “paedophilia, which had even infected the clergy”. If there is an infection it is the disease of religion that has infected them. The paedophilia is caused by the repressive sexual culture promoted by his church. The high incidence of child abuse inflicted by members of the church has occurred, not because a religious vocation attracts paedophiles, but because sexual perversion is a product of Catholicism and priests are more repressed and therefore more likely to become perverts.
Is it my imagination or are those little crosses some people used to wear discreetly tucked away down their neck-holes suddenly appearing, in plagues, on the outside, in your face and challenging all to deny the risible supernatural beliefs of the wearer? Perhaps this is a case of wire coat hanger syndrome. Out of sight, in the dim, sweaty chest hair of the superstitious they are breeding like catholic fundamentalists.
I sometimes ask the wearer if they are collectors and do they have the complete set. A vacant look prompts me to tell them that you can also collect a little bronze guillotine, a tiny gold plated electric chair, a genuine recyclable hemp noose, a little brass axe and a minute crystal syringe with “Made in the USA” engraved along it’s side. The point that they are wearing a model torture device, an instrument of agonising execution around their necks is made. I have come to expect them to insist that it stands for the “sacrifice our lord made etc blah blah blah” …. I think you know the rest …… but recently other explanations have arisen.
I have lately argued that overt signals by people indicating that they are altruists are often false and that they are really acting entirely selfishly. It now seems that there are other motives at work. In this modern climate of multiculturalism and religious hate laws many people feel that they cannot express their true feelings regarding alien habits and cultures which threaten them. They have opinions they dare not discuss. Our newspapers, TV and politicians never say what needs to be said. There are millions in Britain who want to express something they dare not for fear of being victimised. So they find a way of quietly, legitimately broadcasting their message.
Those little crosses don’t mean “I love this or that” or "I believe prayer works" or "I believe that some bloke really did start walking about after being dead for three days". It is a coded message, a counter threat and a display of solidarity. What they are really telling us is that they have a few reservations regarding the religion of Islam. In private they use much stronger language but I am prevented from quoting it here.
I was lately brought to task by a Christian who objected to my assertion that Hitler believed in the Christian god and genuinely believed he was acting in the true traditions of this religion. My critic claimed that Mr H was only pretending to be a Christian to fool other Christians into agreeing with him. If this was the case it was a very successful tactic which raises serious questions regarding the gullibility and steadfastness of the faithful. I do not think that it is the case that Hitler was engaging in a deliberate ruse but it does raise the possibility that others may be acting in a similar manner.
In a society where unselfishness is in many ways rewarded, perhaps with status or other forms of peer respect which, in turn leads to an easier living, it might profit someone to use the guise of altruism as a vehicle for completely selfish behaviour. Such an individual might affect a masquerade, adopting certain “beliefs”, gestures, modes of dress or symbols to fool other members of the group. It might even arise that an organisation, existing entirely for its own purposes, will flourish if it adopts the trapping of a benevolent establishment.
I am reminded of species of hover fly which closely resemble wasps. Under certain conditions these far outnumber actual wasps. Sometimes, in the region where I live, there are vast plagues of waspy hover flies with not a single genuine wasp to be found anywhere. What is more, the fly does not know it resembles a wasp; it does not know it is cheating. Stingyness is a concept beyond the understanding of the hover fly. It thrives because it is good at fooling birds into thinking it is a wasp without understanding the notion of bird or wasp.
Under the present political climate where religion is encouraged and gains so much privilege, simulated altruists can thrive. Any individual, overtly displaying their altruistic status may be bogus. The more noticeable the display the more likely it is a masquerade. A dog collar, a pointy hat or a cross worn openly are sure signs. Beware of the fish sign on the car boot or phrases such as “As a Christian….” The use of familial terms such as “brother”, “sister”, “mother” or “father” are used as a subtle ruse to get by your defences.
Even those who find this idea too cynical will agree that it is possible that at least a few people are succeeding in duping the more credulous amongst us with this deception. However, I maintain that the simulated altruist is very common and makes up the majority.
I further observe that the established churches are a repository for vast hoards of simulated altruists, leeching off the taxpayer and gullible hosts, some acting innocently from within the organisations themselves.
To protect ourselves we need to recognise them, name them and reveal their hypocrisy.
"Thus, Christ’s atonement turned God’s wrath away from the sinner, and placed him into renewed fellowship with God. God's just anger is appeased and He can be reconciled to the sinner."
As you can see it is complete rubbish dressed up as wisdom. It uses a special theological language containing so many outrageous, unsubstantiated statements that rational beings are often reduced to silence when faced with so many fatuouse inferences and outright lies. It is a very impressive, technique which impresses the faithful and renders those not adept at bible talk unable to reply in similar terms.
Maybe there is already a good word for this phenomenon or perhaps readers can think of a better term or a more succinct definition.
"When believers pick up Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens, we may feel as we turn the pages: 'This is not it. Whatever the religion being attacked here, it's not actually what I believe in,'" the archbishop said.
Williams would have us believe that since the 19th century some great revelation has occurred and that our view of religion has somehow matured into something only real Christians can understand. As if some new messiah has come to tell them that they had it all wrong for 1800 years or that modern theologians are much cleverer so that using the same old bible they suddenly became better informed about god.
I have had 11 years of theology in the form of religious assemblies, daily prayers, bible readings, church, chapel and Sunday school. I have suffered the inane ranting of scores of Christians. I know what they believed because they kept telling me over and over. They told me that a man really did die and came back to life; that a virgin gave birth and that if you pray it makes a real difference because there is a magic sky pixie that is everywhere and listens to everything.
Is Williams trying to say that this is not modern Christianity; that modern Christians do not believe in these risible fairy tales. If this is what he claims he needs to listen more to the superstitious pap fed to our infants in the majority of Britain’s religious primary schools.
But this may be a good sign for the rationalist cause. It may indicate that, by small increments, we are winning the argument. Leading Christians do not have the humility to admit they are wrong so instead they change their ground, claiming that they meant to say something sensible all along. How silly of us to misunderstand.
Can this be an indication that we are making more inroads than theists are prepared to admit. In the long term we may still have to deal with organised religion but if we keep up the pressure it may, lie by ridiculous lie, have to abandon its most absurd claims.
(For example see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_thinkers_in_science)
Until recently I have not had a convincing riposte. After all, these were people who's opinions I once respected, and to discover that they believe in the supernatural should not in itself be grounds for abandoning my previous admiration. How can this be?
In fact, there is no contradiction. There are similar precedents which we all apply in other situations.
I once knew of a notorious shoplifter who had been prosecuted several times. I would meet her at the supermarket checkout where she would pay for all her groceries. Most of the time she was an honest, law abiding mother of two. Do I then have to disregard her criminal tendencies because I applaud her behaviour at other times. Of course not, it is the shoplifting we should condemn, not the shoplifter.
http://maryamnamazie.blogspot.com/2007/10/on-2007-national-secular-societys.html
Just found this from Australia.................

"On 25 May 1982 Argentine jets bombed and sunk the British Type-42 Destroyer Coventry, 11 miles north of Pebble Island. A large memorial cross erected on a scenic hillside not far from the settlement, looks out to where Coventry sank, and commemorates the 20 crew that died."
It has since been repaired but the original was the site of many religious gatherings assembled in memory of those who died. I count myself as very lucky to be able to relate that my brother, honoured for his bravery on this day, was a survivor who designed and constructed the metal cross.
He is an atheist from four generations of atheists.
As he told me about this I was reminded of the claim by the faithful that we would not have so much memorable art and music where it not for religion. This is complete rubbish, of course.
(Robert Dewar, The Enquirer)
I go further than this as I have stated in earlier posts. From my discussions with many poor saps indoctrinated during childhood I suspect that most cannot abandon their risible faith through argument or from learning of evidence that counters religious beliefs. It is as if the earlier dogma had been engraved permanently into their understanding of the world. If we insist on rectifying matters we may find that more drastic intervention is necessary. Such methods might require a coercion that we should never sanction. It is better to find ways to protect ourselves from the present religious onslaught and concentrate on inoculating future generations from the disease of religion.
The following was recently posted by one of the UK Brights -
"Let us have the wisdom to accept that if our ancestors had fared differently in wars our communities would be holding different absurdities up as sacred truths, and the willingness to accept those absurdities would be seen as the badge of social trustworthiness oreven the right to be allowed to draw breath.
Let us accept that the difference between a prophet and a madman is
not what they say but whether the crowd accepts the story and tells
their children to believe it.
Let us have the courage to accept that wanting to believe in something
with every fibre of our being does not and cannot make it true.
Truth needs no help, no believers, no bowed heads and no amens."
(Pinker)
I write a blog on schizophrenia and one on religion. This quotation appears on both.
I hope this is Latin for "Religion poisons everything". Can any scholars out there confirm this?
This is from Martin Willet, one of the Brights. It is very good but some of the phrasing needs attention if it is to become universal. Judging from this offering, Willet is be far better qualified than me to do that. He calls it:
Let us take responsibility for our own actions, inaction's, strengths
and frailties and not project them onto ghosts, spirits, stars,
portents and gods unseen.
Let us have the courage to accept that one person's faith is another
person's bloody-minded pig-headed refusal to accept the obvious.
Let us have the courage to accept that the person at the front of all
crowds, including this one, doesn't know all the answers.
Let us have the wisdom to accept that if our ancestors had fared
differently in wars our communities would be holding different
absurdities up as sacred truths, and the willingness to accept those
absurdities would be seen as the badge of social trustworthiness or
even the right to be allowed to draw breath.
Let us accept that the difference between a prophet and a madman is
not what they say but whether the crowd accepts the story and tells
their children to believe it.
Let us have the courage to accept that wanting to believe in something
with every fibre of our being does not and cannot make it true.
Truth needs no help, no believers, no bowed heads and no amens.

Hitler was raised as a catholic in a culture seething with the influences of Christianity. Any visitor to Germany will see that every small settlement has at least one church, some villages have several and most towns can still boast magnificent church buildings. I have visited a few myself.
In 1933 the German Freethinkers League, a following mainly of intelectual atheists with about half a million members, was disbanded by the Nazis.
There can be no doubt that Hitler believed in a Christian god and regarded himself as a Christian.
The following quotes are translations from Hitler's speeches - I make no apologies for pilfering them from the following excellent source: http://www.atheism.about.com/religion/atheism/library/quotes/bl_q_AHitler.htm where you will find 60 quotes.
"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"
[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]
"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work".
[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]
"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator." [Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 46]
"Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith . . . we need believing people."
[Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933]
"Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time."
[Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 5]
"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter."
[Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order, quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]
"What we have to fight for...is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator."
[Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp. 125]
"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief."
[Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.152]
"And the founder of Christianity. made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."
[Adolph Hitler, Mein Kampf, pp.174]
"I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal."
[Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 1]
"Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise."
[Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf Vol. 2 Chapter 1]
"Today Christians ... stand at the head of [this country]... I pledge that I never will tie myself to parties who want to destroy Christianity. .. We want to fill our culture again with the Christian spirit ... We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years."
[The Speeches of Adolph Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872]
Secular schools can never be tolerated because such schools have no religious instruction, and a general moral instruction without a religious foundation is built on air; consequently, all character training and religion must be derived from faith . . . we need believing people. [Adolf Hitler, April 26, 1933, from a speech made during negotiations leading to the Nazi-Vatican Concordant of 1933]
My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. [Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922, published in My New Order, quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]
The anti-Semitism of the new movement [Christian Social movement] was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge. [Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 3]
Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children. [Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World War I]
We are expected to tolerate and respect the religious beliefs of others, yet, how often are those who wish to be completely free of religion invited to a ceremony such as a marriage or funeral where there will be appeals to the supernatural. These are occasions where you will be surrounded by people engaged in degrading, superstitious acts.
Family members often have no sense of the offence they cause.
The religious can be divided into two categories; victims and perpetrators.
The preacher with a congregation has surely found heaven on earth. He stands in a special place, everyone listens. He might even be allowed to wear special clothes or, joy of joys, a silly hat.
Perpetrators may also be victims. Most religious practitioners do believe in the supernatural but some do not – they are in it for the money and power.
There is little point in discussing their ridiculous beliefs. They did not arrive at them through rational thought and no amount of argument will change their minds.
Whether they are justified or not is not the point – remember, they want to feel important. All you need to do is show a complete lack of deference.
As an enlightened observer you know that it is not a god that is slighted but the man in the silly hat. However, by remaining acquiescent you will appear to indicate an acceptance of this person’s elevated position and special knowledge. As an enlightened observer you need to find an acceptable way of showing your disdain.
In other circumstances you need to make your feelings known directly. Merely tell them that you find their actions unacceptable and that you would prefer them to continue in private because you would not like your children to witness these acts.
Above all, be confident, smile, be courteous, and be gracious.
I have just seen the breakdown of expenses for the rent of this room. The item for rent is £61 (sterling) per week. There is an extra for £30 service charges giving £91 per week altogether. There are three occupants giving £183 per week rent or £732 per month going to the landlord. As I peruse my local paper I see that this is very close to the commercial rate in this vicinity.
Presumably as a religious charity English Churches benefits from generous tax concessions. House prices have risen sharply in this area so the house has been a very lucrative investment in other ways.
From these figures it seems that English Churches is onto a nice little earner at the taxpayers expense. I think its charitable status should be in question.
We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement,
and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have
stamped it out."
-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Berlin on 24 Oct. 1933
I have an alloy belt buckle gifted to my father-in-law by a German officer during WW2. The leather belt has perished but the buckle is well preserved. It bears the message
There is a lot of other reliable evidence testifying to the Nazis respect for religion and antagonism toward atheism. It is easy to find many similar quotations from Hitler's speeches, books and letters.
The widespread notion that the Nazi regime was purely secular or atheist in nature is clearly untrue. At best there has been a successful propaganda coup by the churches. There may be a very dirty story waiting to be uncovered.
Atheist Hedge Fund Manager In Boost To Catholic Schools
I have said in earlier postings that we Atheists are ignoring the successful tactics used by the churches. When wealthy Atheists are looking around for good causes do they see trusted, established, well publicised Atheist organisations doing 'good work'. Not really. There are plenty of secular institutions connected to the state or big business but I do not see similar bodies aligned specifically to Atheists or Brights.
I hope I am wrong in this. Please demolish my argument by posting worthy examples.
Perhaps not playing football is a sport?
"Are you into sport"
"Oh yes. I don't play football"
"Didn't you play any football yesterday."
"No, and I didn't play football the day before or any day before that."
"Aren't you going to play today."
"No, I never play football"
" I think you are a bit of a fanatic. All this not playing football has turned you into a fundamentalist not football player."
Exit stout party.
However, he does have a worrying reverence for foxes.
"I am an Atheist and proud of it. I do not steal, cheat or lie. I have been married to the same woman for 38 years and have never been disloyal. I give regularly to charities and several hours of my time every week to helping the disabled. I have morals and live ethically and yet I am not good enough to expect fair representation on Thought for The Day. The inference is that because I do not accept the supernatural I am in some way inferior. By their implications, I am regularly deeply offended by statements broadcast on this programme. "
However we sometimes need to counter a few facile arguments.
I have recently read that many christians believe that I cannot have morality or live ethically without a belief in a god. For instance, if it would enhance my own survival or reproductive potential it would be right to commit murder, rape or theft for example. I have even been told that I am moral because I was raised in a religious community (true) and it is that and not my atheism that makes me such a good person. So I will give just one reason why I don't strangle the next cross dangling idiot I see.
If I argue that, say, theft is acceptable, then it is acceptable for others to do the same. I may gain temporarily if I steal from others but in the long term I would lose because there are many other people who would steal from me. So it is in my interests to encourage a complete ban on theft.
Conversely, it follows that it is in my interests to encourage altruism.
But I do not have to have worked all this out in order to act morally. Societies with a significant number of individuals that do not adopt similar principles are unstable. I act morally because my ancestors survived and in order to do so they had to act morally.
So, whether we work out how to behave or inherit a predisposition (perhaps by being susceptible to religion) we can still be moral.
panj



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