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The Four Horsemen

Dawkins, Dennett, Harris, Hitchens (1/12)

Texas biology professors voice support for evolution education

This is one of the stories I've been following:

AUSTIN — Biology professors from across Texas stressed the importance of educating students about evolution in a letter to the state education commissioner and said Texas Education Agency employees shouldn't be required to stay neutral on the subject.

more...


Other Articles:
NCSE Resource -- Barbara Forrest on Chris Comer's forced resignation

December 5, 2007

In forcing Chris Comer to resign as Texas Director of Science, the Texas Education Agency has confirmed in a most public, unfortunate way the central point of my Austin presentation, "Inside Creationism's Trojan Horse," the mere announcement of which TEA used as an excuse to terminate her: the intelligent design (ID) creationist movement is about politics, religion, and power. If anyone had any doubts about how mean-spirited ID politics is, this episode should erase them. Texas school children depend on the adults at the TEA to protect the quality of their education. For the last nine years at the TEA, after twenty-seven years as a science teacher, Ms. Comer was doing her part, and she got fired for doing it. The children are ultimately the losers.

- Barbara Forrest


Teaching of evolution to go under microscope | Dallas Morning News | News for Dallas, Texas | News: Education
Star-Telegram.com: | 12/12/2007 | Science professors blast ouster at TEA

Other sources:
"Chris Comer" - Google News
Texas Education Agency - Google News
Texas Education Commissioner Robert Scott - Google News

Busy

Sorry everybody. I've got somewhat of a writers block and am also busy with other projects.

New Favorite!!! Sabayon Linux (Debian based)

Goodbye Fedora...for a little while.







Sabayon Linux Project Website

Beryl.project.org

Slayer Vids



Seasons in the Abyss

Razors edge
Outlines the dead
Incisions in my head
Anticipation the stimulation
To kill the exhilaration

(chorus:)
[part 1]
Close your eyes
Look deep in your soul
Step outside yourself
And let your mind go
Frozen eyes stare deep in your mind as you die

[part 2]
Close your eyes
And forget your name
Step outside yourself
And let your thoughts drain
As you go insane... [go] insane

[this verse has changed place with verse 3]
Inert flesh
A bloody tomb
A decorated splatter brightens the room
An execution a sadist ritual
Mad intervals of mind residuals

Close your eyes
Look deep in your soul
Step outside yourself
And let your mind go
Frozen eyes stare deep in your mind as you die

Close your eyes... and forget your name
Step outside yourself... and let your thoughts drain
As you go insane... [go] insane

[this verse has changed place with verse 2]
Innate seed
To watch you bleed
A demanding physical need
Desecrated, eviscerated
Times prostrated [sings perpetuated]

(chorus)

South of Heaven
(lyrics: araya; music: hanneman)

An unforeseen future nestled somewhere in time.
Unsuspecting victims no warnings, no signs.
Judgment day the second coming arrives.
Before you see the light you must die.

Forgotten children, conform a new faith,
Avidity and lust controlled by hate.
[the] never ending search for your shattered sanity,
Souls of damnation in their own reality.

Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.

Bastard sons beget your cunting daughters,
Promiscuous mothers with your incestuous fathers.
Engreat souls condemned for [all] eternity,
Sustained by immoral observance a domineering deity.

Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive sabbath.

On and on, south of heaven [x 4]

Lead: king

The root of all evil is the heart of a black soul.
A force that has lived all eternity.
A never ending search for a truth never told.
The loss of all hope and your dignity.

Chaos rampant,
An age of distrust.
Confrontations.
Impulsive habitat.

On and on, south of heaven [x 4]

Lead: hanneman


All these years I've assumed that South of Heaven was in reference to hell. Now i'm not so sure now south of heaven could very well be here on earth.

And I do believe Seasons in the Abyss is about Islam.

slayer - Atheist Blogroll Search

Other Slayer fans on the Atheist Blogroll:

VJACK: CD Review: Slayer's Christ Illusion

Jon Voisey: 30 Days: Atheist/Christian review "...if I ever get a Christian to come stay with me, I should take them to a Slayer concert…"

angelsdepart: Religion

And I gotta throw this one in because he's a personal friend of mine:
Bob (aka Robert Fisher): Humans: The Other White Meat

Atheist Blogroll blogs about Slayer:
Slayer censored in India">Slayer censored in India

James Baldwin (author)

Author Note: James Baldwin

( Free Inquiry - Fall 2000 )
By James A. Haught

Here's an interesting literary footnote:
James Baldwin, arguably America's greatest black writer, was a popular Pentecostal preacher in Harlem at age 14 - but at 17 he renounced religion as a sham.

Years later, he described his boyhood transformation in an essay titled Down at the Cross, first published in The New Yorker, then reprinted in his civil rights book, The Fire Next Time.

He told of growing up amid the bitter hopelessness of the black ghetto, watching jobless men drink and fight, resenting tyrannical treatment by his preacher stepfather, wishing for escape. The misery around him "helped to hurl me into the church," he wrote.

One night at a prayer meeting, "everything came roaring, screaming, crying out, and I fell to the ground before the altar. It was the strangest sensation I have ever had in my life." He soon became a junior minister at the Fireside Pentecostal Assembly, and became "a much bigger drawing card than my father."

"That was the most frightening time of my life, and quite the most dishonest, and the resulting hysteria lent great passion to my sermons - for a while," he said. Considering all the evils of Harlem street life, "it was my good luck - perhaps - that I found myself in the church racket instead of some other, and surrendered to a spiritual seduction long before I came to any carnal knowledge."

The "fire and excitement" of Pentecostalism were captivating, Baldwin wrote -- but he sensed subconsciously that it was bogus, and by 17 suffered "the slow crumbling of my faith." It happened "when I began to read again.... I began, fatally, with Dostoevski."

He continued handing out gospel tracts, but knew they were "impossible to believe."

"I was forced, reluctantly, to realize that the Bible itself had been written by men." As for the claim that the Bible writers were divinely inspired, he said he "knew by now, alas, far more about divine inspiration than I dared admit, for I knew how I worked myself up into my own visions."

Baldwin wrote that he might have remained in the church if "there was any loving-kindness to be found in the haven I represented." But he finally concluded that "there was no love in the church. It was a mask for hatred and self-hatred and despair." So his religion ended.

Years later, he visited Black Muslim leader Elijah Muhammad and concluded that Elijah's "revelations" about Satan creating "white devils" were just as irrational as Christian beliefs.

When Elijah asked his faith, Baldwin replied:

"I left the church 20 years ago and I haven't joined anything since."

"And what are you now?" Elijah asked.

"I? Now? Nothing," the great writer replied.
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"Life is tragic simply because the earth turns and the sun inexorably rises and sets, and one day, for each of us, the sun will go down for the last, last time. Perhaps the whole root of our trouble, the human trouble, is that we will sacrifice all the beauty of our lives, will imprison ourselves in totems, taboos, crosses, blood sacrifices, steeples, mosques, races, armies, flags, nations, in order to deny the fact of death, which is the only fact we have."

- from Down At the Cross, part of The Fire Next Time

Tex’s One and Only



Fuck! I had a bitch of a time but I finally got these songs embedded in a flash player!

Go vote for the worst song!

Tex's chainsaw massacre

Atheist Blogroll Toolkit

If nobody has noticed off in the left side-bar you'll find a section titled "Atheist Blogroll Tools".

I've recently exported an OPML file for download to use in any feed reader that can import OPML files. There are many, many feed readers available, both software and web-based too.

Essentially this OPML file is a master list of ALL the RSS feeds of ALL the blogs on the Atheist Blogroll (that is, if the blog has an RSS available. There are some blogs on the blogroll that I have encountered that DO NOT have an RSS feed available so consequently they will not be available through the OPML file).

Here is a list of feed readers that you can use.
rss reader - Google Search

Web-based
Bloglines
NewsGator
Google Reader
My prefered reader.


Google Reader

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Read all the latest blog entries...


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Mark (star) your favorite blog entries...


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Share you favorite entries and parse them as an RSS feed...


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Search the items. Here I did a search for "Jerry Falwell"...


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Select just one entry you want to read. Also watch media right inside Google Reader...


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We came, we saw, we kicked its ass.



Archbishop: Lenny, offically the church won't take any postion with the religious implications of these phenomenons. Personally Lenny, I think it's a sign from God, but don't quote me on that.
Dr. Peter Venkman: I think that's a smart move, Mike.

Dr. Peter Venkman: [picking up his radio and speaking slowly] Come in, Ray.
Dr Ray Stantz: [excited] Venkman? I saw it, I saw it, I saw it.
Dr. Peter Venkman: [slowly, calmly] It's right here, Ray. It's... looking at me.
Dr Ray Stantz: He's an ugly little spud, isn't he?
Dr. Peter Venkman: [quickly] I think he can hear you, Ray.

Dr. Peter Venkman: All right, this chick is TOAST. Okay; sticks?
Dr Ray Stantz, Dr. Egon Spengler, Winston Zeddemore: PULLED 'EM.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Heat 'em up.
Dr Ray Stantz, Dr. Egon Spengler, Winston Zeddemore: SMOKIN'.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Bang 'em hard.
Dr Ray Stantz, Dr. Egon Spengler, Winston Zeddemore: READY.
Dr. Peter Venkman: Let's show this prehistoric bitch how we do things downtown.

Dr. Egon Spengler: Venkman, shorten your stream! I don't want my face burned off!
Dr. Peter Venkman: We came, we saw, we kicked its ass.

Dr. Peter Venkman: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nice shootin', Tex!

Dr. Peter Venkman: How's the grid holding up?
Dr. Egon Spengler: Not good.
Winston Zeddemore: Tell him about the Twinkie.
Dr. Peter Venkman: What about the Twinkie?

I found this over at Atheists group on Multiply.com. Hilarious!!!

Favorite Religion Clip (2)

One of my favorite songs regarding this god person.



Who's is this god person anyway?

Tagged: Memory Meme


My mom (tina) tagged me.
  1. Describe my earliest memory where the memory is clear, and where "clear" means I can depict at least three details.
  2. Give an estimate of my age at the time.
  3. Tag five other bloggers with this meme.
I remember my dad smacking me in the mouth for crying out loud. LOL

I'm assuming (from recollections from my mom corroborating this) that me, my dad and her were on our way to Texas (because I don't remember anybody else in the car (ie. my younger sister who was born in Texas) I'm guessing I must have been no more than a year old. I remember sitting in the back seat when this happened and my dad reaching around and 'whack'.

I remember that it was daylight, the vinyl seats (blueish colored). That's about it.

If you've never been tagged with this meme...you are now.

Atheism, Divorce and Custody Battles

Somebody in my extended family is undergoing a custody battle with her divorced husband. She is a good Christian and her ex wants joint custody. I just got off the phone with her and thought to myself "Good thing you aren't an atheist."

What made me think this? Cruising around the net will explain why.

Carson v. Carson, 401 N.W.2d 632, 635–36
(Mich. Ct. App. 1986) (quoting trial court as opining that it “was a little bit distraught in finding that there was no particular affiliation [held by either parent] with a church,” because “[p]robably 95 percent of the criminals that I see before me come from homes where there’s no . . . established religious affiliation,”

Sharrow v. Davis, Nos. 244043, 245117, 2003 WL 21699876, at *3
(Mich. Ct. App. July 22, 2003) (noting that “[father] never attended church and his older children were not baptized,” that “[father] felt [the children] should experience many religions and choose one when they were older,” and that though “[mother] did not attend church regularly, she attended periodically and would take all of the children with her”);

Goodrich v. Jex, No. 243455, 2003 WL 21362971, at *1
(Mich. Ct. App. June 12, 2003) (noting “that [father] has a greater capacity and willingness to continue to take the parties’ daughters to church and related activities,” and that trial court had been “concerned with [mother’s] belief that her minor daughters are capable of making their own decisions whether to attend church”);

Sims v. Stanfield, No. CA98-1040, 1999 WL 239888, at *3–*4 (Ark. Ct. App. Apr. 21, 1999)
(noting that lower court based award of custody to father partly on father’s having “‘rekindled’ a relationship with his church,” “regularly attend[ing] services,” and providing “a Christian home,” but declining on procedural grounds to review this);

Tweedel v. Tweedel, 484 So. 2d 260, 262 (La. Ct. App. 1986)
(noting that “The child attends church regularly with the mother and receives religious instruction. The father testified that he has not brought the child to church because the child did not want to go and that he would not force the child to go to church.”);

Staggs v. Staggs, No. 2004-CA-00443-COA, 2005 WL 1384525, at *6
(Miss. Ct. App. May 24, 2005) (noting that “[w]hile [father] is an agnostic and testified that religion is not important to him, [mother] testified that religion is very important to her”);

Weigand v. Houghton, 730 So. 2d 581, 587 (Miss. 1999)
(noting chancellor’s “weighing heavily” as factor in mother’s favor that “mother has seen that [the son] is taken to church and undergone religious training, along with the entire family” and that “[the son’s] best interest would be served by providing religious training”).

Gancas v. Schultz, 683 A.2d 1207, 1213–14 (Pa. Super. Ct. 1996)
(reversing lower court’s transfer of custody from mother to father, based partly on lower court’s “fail[ure] to consider ‘all factors which legitimately have an effect upon the child’s physical, intellectual, moral and spiritual well-being,’” and in particular that while “[m]other . . . takes [daughter] to church whenever [daughter] is with her,” “[f]ather, an admitted agnostic, does not attend church”).

Myers v. Myers, 14 Phila. 224, 256–57 (Com. Pl. 1986)
(“Although the issue of religion is not controlling in a custody case, the religious training of children is a matter of serious concern and is a factor that should be considered in rendering a custody decision. ‘A proper religious atmosphere is an attribute of a good home and it contributes significantly to the ultimate welfare of a child.’ Where it appears that the religious training of the children will cease upon placement in a given custodial setting, courts lean in favor of the religious-minded contestant.”), aff’d without op., 520 A.2d 68 (Pa. Super. Ct. 1986);

Scheeler v. Rudy, 2 Pa. D. & C.3d 772, 780 (Com. Pl. 1977)
(awarding custody to mother, noting as factor in her favor that she often took children to church, while father rarely did, that “[t]his court has often noted the absence of any regular church attendance in the pre- sentence reports of those who have been convicted of some crime, which appear on our desk,” and that “a religious education and upbringing can have a substantial effect upon the outlook and attitudes of a child, and in turn upon the life of the adult he or she will become.”)

Pountain v. Pountain, 503 S.E.2d 757, 761 (S.C. Ct. App. 1998)
(upholding denial of custody to father whom court described as “agnostic,” and stating that “Although the religious beliefs of parents are not dispositive in a child custody dispute, they are a factor relevant to determining the best interest of a child”);

In re F.J.K., 608 S.W.2d 301 (Tex. App. 1980)
(noting “the mother’s neglect of the children’s religious upbringing,” and “[a]n atheistic philosophy [being] . . . discussed by the new husband to some extent with the daughter, prompting her to advise her nursery school teacher that she was ‘not a Christian or a Jew but an atheist’”).

Source: Atheists Discriminated Against in Child Custody Cases

In 1992 a South Dakota man "will agree to present a plan to the Court of how
[he] is going to commence providing some sort of spiritual opportunity for the [children] to learn about God while in [his] custody." Similar language was couched in 2005 Arkansas, 2002 Georgia, 2005 Louisiana, 2004 Minnesota, 2005 Mississippi, 2006 New York, 2005 North Carolina, 1996 Pennsylvania, 2004 South Carolina, 1997 Tennessee, 2000 Texas, and, going back to the 1970s and 1980s, Alabama, Connecticut, the District of Columbia, Iowa, Montana, and Nebraska.

In 2000, the Mississippi Supreme Court ordered a mother to take her child to church each week, reasoning that "it is certainly to the best interests of [the child] to receive regular and systematic spiritual training" in 1996, the Arkansas Supreme Court did the same, partly on the grounds that weekly
church attendance, rather than just the once-every-two-weeks attendance that the child would have had if he went only with the other parent, provides superior "moral instruction."

All this is done under the rubric of the "best interests of the
child" standard, the normal rule applied in custody disputes between two parents and this standard leaves family court judges ample room to consider a parent's ideology.

Source (PDF): PARENT-CHILD SPEECH AND CHILD CUSTODY SPEECH RESTRICTIONS
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atheist child custody - Google Search
atheist child custody - Atheist Blogroll Search

Regardless if any of these opinions and judgments were overturned the court statements speak for themselves of the bias and prejudice toward non-Christians in the US. The United States is not alone in the ideological divide and the personal prejudices that justices take liberty with while on the bench. These are local and state judges who are not appointed but elected. What does that say about our so-called secular society?

As an American, our constitution is a text left open for interpretation by the Judicial branch. When judges waver from the first amendment it saddens me to no end.

Essentially, I think we should all get the message very clearly. Christians think [atheists] are shit and not worthy of raising their own children if it doesn't fall in line with so-called "moral instruction".

The first amendment stands on one leg ready to topple.

Coming Out!? Again?

This time by name.

Nontheists, Come Out!
The religious lobby has controlled discourse and policy for too long. As nontheists we are a minority, however we are one of the largest minorities, quite capable of setting the agenda and directing discussion on the matter. For this prospect to be realized we must stand as nontheists – we must come out all together. Come out and stand for an enlightened tomorrow today.

Supported by Rationalists and Freethinkers at the University of Illinois at Chicago: uic-raft.org

I found this link at Friendly Atheist » Chicken Shit Atheists

This Secular Nation

This I think has been a long time coming. I'm happy with the results. I've started a new blog titled This Secular Nation.
I am thoroughly pleased with the premise and the tack I have chosen to take. My intent with this blog is to step out of the "atheist shoes" and into what I am passionate about the most: separation of church and state or otherwise secularism. I've also vowed to refrain from "ranting" as best I can and to do my best in researching the topics.
I'll be here, I'll be there, I'll be...everywhere?

An Atheist Sick of the Theological Debate

Yes, that's me that I'm talking about.

It's not my cup of tea and I'm on the verge of denouncing the atheist label altogether because in essence one can't shake the impending question: "God or no god?" This is the burden that being an atheist entails; arguing the non-existence of a god or gods. Truthfully I don't give a shit. Reading commentary going back and forth between evolutionists and creationists makes me want to vomit. Why? It gets us nowhere in the grander scheme of things that encompass all humanity. Sure, I don't mind those debating the issue to debate it, but in my opinion it completely skirts real, mundane issues of our time. After all, this debate has been going on for millennia. And how has it changed? This debate? Thank you.

For instance let's talk about the real and mundane issues I speak of and start with one polarizing topic heatedly contested by religious conservatives and liberal secularists alike.

Abortion.

If not for the religious minded and faithful thumping their "good" book asserting that abortion is wrong* by the word of a god we wouldn't be having a counter argument coming from the more liberal voices of society asserting that it is the womans choice. This leads me to believe that it's not about abortion at all but about womens liberation. The bible has plenty to say about the roles of women. I need not elaborate. Religious conservatives seek to outlaw abortion solely based on their interpretation of their bible as constituting law.

Another issue is education and specifically the teaching of evolution. Devout creationists see the theory of evolution as a slap in the face of god.** Why? Don't anybody answer that. Here's my take though. The teaching of evolution invariably caused an uproar within the religious community, not because of the theory itself but because of the public secular education establishment teaching it to "their" children.

Holy shit! You mean to tell me that these people got their panties in a bunch over this? Sadly yes. We don't want children to become "wayward" of their parents teachings and those of the religious establishments they adhere to. Why not? What is so bad about breaking the mold and venturing forth into the REAL world? In my opinion "the church" is a stagnant do-nothing body of...conservatism. If one adheres to the tenants of ones faith through a book that remains "eternal" then there really is no room for real progress in the social scheme of things.

A "Christian nation". What? Your average fundie is going to go on and on about how this country was founded as a Christian nation. Well they'll hate Jefferson for longing that he'd have liked to have seen King George be strangled with the entrails of his priests.***

What has all of this to do with me being sick of the theological debate? Because it is wholeheartedly a NON-ISSUE! Let them believe and have "faith" in whatever floats that boat.

I am a SECULARIST.

*Nowhere in the bible is abortion addressed as constituting murder. Not literally.
**In fact the theory of evolution makes no mention of god or a creator and therefore is not an attack against any god. The attack comes from the faithful who typically interpret anything they read to suit whatever premise or indoctrinated motives they hold.
***Paine, like Jefferson, was a product of the Enlightenment who sincerely believed there was a natural order of perfect freedom and equality that had been hijacked by medieval kings and priests.

Atheist Spotlight

Ernestine Louise Rose (January 13, 1810 – August 4, 1892) was an Individualist Feminist, abolitionist, freethinker, and atheist. She was one of the major intellectual forces behind the women's rights movement in nineteenth-century America.

She was born on January 13, 1820, in Piotrkow Trybunalski, Russia-Poland, as Ernestine Louise Polowsky. Her father was a rich rabbi and her mother the daughter of a wealthy businessman.

At the age of five, Ernestine began to “question the justice of a God who would exact such hardships” as the frequent fasts that her father performed. As she grew older, she began to question her father more and more on religious matters, receiving only, "A young girl does not want to understand the object of her creed, but to accept and believe it." in response. By the age of fourteen, she had completely rejected the idea of female inferiority and the religious texts that supported that idea.

At the age of sixteen, her mother died, and her father betrothed her, without her consent, to a young Jew who was a friend of his. Ernestine, not wanting to enter a marriage with a man she neither chose nor loved, confronted him, professing her lack of affection towards him and begging for release. However, Ernestine was a beautiful woman from a rich family, and he laughed in her face. But Ernestine would not give up so easily. Renting a sleigh and driver, she braved cold, harsh weather to go on a long journey to the notoriously anti-Semitic secular civil court, where she pleaded her case herself. The courts ruled in her favor, not only freeing her from her betrothal, but ruling that she could retain the full inheritance she received from her mother. Although she decided to relinquish the fortune to her father, she gladly took her freedom from betrothal, and triumphantly returned home only to discover that in her absence, her father had remarried to a sixteen year old girl. The tension that developed eventually forced her to leave home at the age of seventeen.

Ernestine then traveled to Berlin, where she found herself hampered by an anti-Semitic law that required all non-Prussian Jews to have a Prussian sponsor. Rather than quietly submit to this law, she instead appealed directly to the king, and was granted an exemption from the rule. Soon afterwards, she developed a room deodorizer, which she sold to fund her travels.

She traveled to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and finally England. Her arrival in England was less than smooth, however, as the ship in which she was sailing wrecked. Although Ernestine did make it to England safely, all her possessions had been destroyed, and she found herself destitute. In order to support herself, she sought work as a teacher in the languages of German and Hebrew and she continued to sell her room deodorizers. While in England, she met Robert Owen, a Utopian socialist, who was so impressed by her that he invited her to speak in a large hall for radical speakers. In spite of her limited knowledge of English, the audience was so impressed that from then on, her appearances were regular. She and Owen were close friends, and she even helped him to found the Association of All Classes of All Nations, a group that espoused human rights for all people of all nations, sexes, races and classes. During her time there she also met William Ella Rose, a Christian jeweler and silversmith, an Englishman and an “Owenite”. They were soon married by a civil magistrate, and both made it plain that they considered the marriage a civil contract rather than a religious one.

In May 1836 the Roses emigrated to the United States, where they later became naturalized citizens and settled in a cozy house in New York city in 1837. The Roses soon opened a small “Fancy and Perfumery” store in their home, where Ernestine sold her perfumed toilet water and William ran a silversmith shop.

Ernestine soon began to give lectures on the subjects that most interested her, joining the “Society for Moral Philanthropists” and traveling to different states to espouse her causes of the abolition of slavery, religious tolerance, public education and equality for women. Her lectures were met with controversy. When she was in the South to speak out against slavery, one slaveholder told her he would have “tarred and feathered her if she had been a man”. When, in 1855, she was invited to deliver an anti-slavery lecture in Bangor, Maine, a local newspaper called her “a female Atheist... a thousand times below a prostitute.” When Ernestine responded to the slur in a letter to the competing paper, she sparked off a town feud that created such publicity that, by the time she arrived, everyone in town was eager to hear her. Her most ill received lecture was likely in Charleston, West Virginia, where her lecture on the evils of slavery was met with such vehement opposition and outrage that she was forced to exercise considerable influence to even get out of the city safely.

In the 1840s and '50s, Ernestine joined the “pantheon of great American women”, a group which included such influential women as Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Lucretia Mott, Paulina Wright and Sojourner Truth and fought for women's rights and abolition.

In the winter of 1836, Judge Thomas Hertell submitted a married women's property act to the legislature of New York city to investigate methods of improving the civil and property rights of married women, and to allow them to hold real estate in their own name. When Ernestine heard of this resolution, she drew up a petition and began to solicit names in support of it. In 1838, this petition was sent to the state legislature in spite of it only having five names. This was the first petition ever introduced in favor of rights for women. During the following years, she increased both the number of petitions and the number of signatures. In 1849, these rights were finally won.

Ernestine also attended and spoke at numerous conferences and conventions, including, but not limited to: the first national convention of Infidels, the Hartford Bible Convention, the Women's Rights Convention in the Tabernacle, New York City, the tenth national convention of the National Women's Rights Convention in Cooper Institute, New York City, the State Women's Rights Convention in Albany, New York, and the Equal Rights Association meeting in which there was a schism.

Ernestine was elected president of the National Women's Rights Convention in October, 1854, in spite of objections that she was an Atheist. Her election was heavily supported by Susan B. Anthony, who declared that, “every religion – or none – should have an equal right on the platform”.

In her later years, after a six month trip to Europe, she attempted to stay away from platforms and controversy. Within 6 months, she made the closing address at the nationwide Women's Rights Convention. However, her health once again took a downward turn, and on June 8, 1869, she and her husband set sail for England. Susan B. Anthony arranged a farewell party for them, and the couple received many gifts from friends and admirers, including a substantial amount of money.

After 1873, her health improved, and she began to advocate women's suffrage in England, even attending the Conference of the Woman's Suffrage movement in London and speaking in Edinburgh, Scotland at a large public meeting in favor of woman's suffrage. She died in England in 1892.

Quotes

  • "It is an interesting and demonstrable fact, that all children are atheists and were religion not inculcated into their minds, they would remain so."
  • "Do you tell me that the Bible is against our rights? Then I say that our claims do not rest upon a book written no one knows when, or by whom. Do you tell me what Paul or Peter says on the subject? Then again I reply that our claims do not rest on the opinions of any one, not even on those of Paul and Peter, . . . Books and opinions, no matter from whom they came, if they are in opposition to human rights, are nothing but dead letters." -- Ernestine Rose, responding to religious heckler at Seventh National Woman's Rights Convention, New York, Nov. 25-26, 1856 (History of Woman Suffrage, Vol. 1: 661-663)
  • “...The wisest of all ages have acknowledged that the most important period in human education is in childhood. . - - This most important part of education is left entirely in the hands of the mother. She prepares the soil for future culture. . . . But the mother cannot give what she does not possess; weakness cannot impart strength. With an imperfect education . . . can she develop the powers, call out the energies, and impart a spirit of independence in her sons? . . . The mother must possess these high and noble qualities, or she never can impart them to her offspring...”

Profanity!? The Blogosphere!?! Profanity on Atheist Blogs!?! No way!!!

I was monkeying with the Atheist Blogroll Search Engine and thought...hey! I wonder how many Atheist Blogroll bloggers get so fucking pissed off they just can't restrain themselves. Below are links to the search pages. Have fun.

Who are the potty mouths (I better be close to the top! Damn! Looks like I better get fucking going on some profane posts!)

fuck - asshole - cunt - dick - dickhead - shithead - shit - "Mother Fucker" - "ass clown" - "fucktard" - "shit-for-brains" - goddamn - twat - bitch - bloody
(for the Brits...and Aussies? Do Aussies say "bloody"?) - "douche bag" - "ass monkey"

Notify me if you have a real good profane word I may have forgotten or am unaware of (that isn't in use in these here parts). Future additions will saved into the sidebar at the left.

Bare assertion fallacy

The bare assertion fallacy is fallacy in formal logic where a premise in an argument is assumed to be true merely because it says that it is true.

One form of the fallacy may be summarized as follows:

* Fact 1: X claims statement A.
* Fact 2: X claims that X is not lying.
* Conclusion: Therefore, A is true.

Put into practice, this fallacy would read:

* Fact 1: This book says that goats can fly.
* Fact 2: This book says that it is true.
* Conclusion: Therefore, goats can fly.

Source: Bare assertion fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
See also: Ontological argument - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Thanks: Quazy Quistian Question # 1 from No More Hornets by

NYC Arabic School Stonewalling Citizens’ Group

By Chuck Hustmyre

October 25, 2007

New York (Crime Library) — Classes started last month at the Khalil Gibran International Academy, but neither the school nor the New York City Department of Education is willing to provide much detail about what is being taught there, other than much of it will be taught in Arabic.

Why does this bother me? I am so obsessed with this story. I don't have much time to elaborate (I'm headed out the door). Suffice it to say that this completely smacks of Hitler's NAZI Germany.

Source: NYC Arabic School Stonewalling Citizens' Group - The Crime library

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Really Neat E-mail

Hello fellow atheist blogger!

Over the past couple of days, we’ve emailed libraries across the U.S., telling them about Onion Breath and asking them to consider the book for their collections. Libraries are one of the last public institutions specifically dedicated to improving the mental landscape of the nation. They’ve traditionally been great advocates of diversity and tolerance, so we’re approaching them on this basis.

In most libraries, anyone with a valid library card can request additions to the collection. We hope our friends in the humanist and atheist communities will go online or visit their local libraries and ask them to get Onion Breath. As Amanda said, “Whether it helps normalize atheism in broader society will depend on it being carried by libraries and bookstores, and being read by families who do not identify as atheists.” We hope kids with no idea that there are atheists in their communities will open the book in their libraries and run to mommy or daddy asking questions. It all begins with questions.

An early response to the email came from a library administrator in Logan, Iowa. It said:

"Hmmm! No God ? No Creator? I Wonder where they got all
their humor and creativity? A Fish I suppose, Wonder who
created the fish? Something to chew on!!!"

We emailed back:

"Well, we have our own ideas on that, of course. The cool thing is, Onion Breath doesn’t try to slam religion or recruit for atheism. It just mentions that the characters are all atheists. If kids become familiar with the fact that the world they’re living in is filled with diversity, they may grow up more open to different points of view. That’s why we think Onion Breath belongs in your library. Thanks!"

We hope even librarians who are not atheists themselves will put Onion Breath on their shelves, in the name of diversity and tolerance. It’s important for kids (even the most conventional kids) to know there are other types of people in the world. Libraries get endowments, grants and government money to buy books like this. If they’re buying titles that support ethnic, lifestyle, or religious minorities, they ought to be buying Onion Breath. But usually it takes someone requesting the book to alert them there’s a community that needs service.

So please ask your library to get Onion Breath! And please let us know how it goes. Thanks!! Dan & Steph.

Dan Allosso @onionbreath.net

Google Reader

If nobody has noticed the "Larro's Shared Items" widget in the right side bar, this is my Google Reader shared items widget. I have all the Atheist Blogroll feeds running through it as well as all my Google News feeds.

Essentially though I wanted to point out I can cover A LOT of ground perusing other peoples blogs and the news with Google Reader. When I find something interesting I share it right in the reader and voila it goes directly to that widget.

Just wanted to share that.

Religious Moderates

At fault as much as religious extremists...if not more so.

A misunderstanding, misinterpretation, unschooled or laissez-faire knowledge of scriptural text handed down by a god is as much, if not more so, a failing as those who interpret it literally. Horrific as it may seem I would wager that extreme fundamentalist have a much better grasp on scripture than their liberal counterparts.

You heard me right. I said: Liberal. As in "take liberty" with the holy scripture, pick and choose what fits your societal outlook.

Religious moderates are far less educated or far more liberated from their religious scripture than their fanatical counterparts. Why? Because fundamentalists take the entirety of scripture as truth...as it was meant to be taken. Shame on those who seek to re-interpret it.

Moderates are more likely to pick and choose from scripture. This in itself compromises both their "faith" and their inherent humanism. I implore religious moderates to fully (or at least thoroughly examine) their humanist social world view. Certainly it may compromise their faith in ways not entirely detrimental to their religious beliefs. This very act may broaden their definition of humanism and how their faith fits within its framework.

There's NO fork in the road here. Sure, I fault all religious "faithfuls", but that's just me and not all non-believers.

I would like to live harmoniously and stamp out those aspects of society that harbor violence as a means to an end of so-called sin and offenses against a god. Do religious moderates?

Most religious moderates don't "know" their scripture and many fundamentalists and extremists surely fault them for this. Most religious moderates probably can't remember the Ten Commandments, a passage from the Koran or any of the various Hindu and Buddhist text. Such is their distance from true indoctrination. Yet I fault religious moderates because they don't see that the extreme aspects of their particular religion are in all actuality the truest form.

Religious moderation? What does that mean? Moderating religion on a personal level! Damn! I am so glad I myself don't have to deal with THAT crap!

Moderating your religion compromises your faith in religious scripture. If you truly believe in the god of whatever scripture you adhere to then you are doing a vastly greater disservice to your faith than you know.

The End of Faith & Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism

New books on my bookshelf. I just went out and picked up these two books. I am sooo stoked. Gonna start reading tomorrow.

The End of Faith by Sam Harris

An impassioned plea for reason in a world divided by faith.
This important and timely book delivers a startling analysis of the clash of faith and reason in today's world. Harris offers a vivid historical tour of mankind's willingness to suspend reason in favor of religious beliefs, even when those beliefs are used to justify harmful behavior and sometimes heinous crimes. He asserts that in the shadow of weapons of mass destruction, we can no longer tolerate views that pit one true god against another. Most controversially, he argues that we cannot afford moderate lip service to religion—an accommodation that only blinds us to the real perils of fundamentalism. While warning against the encroachment of organized religion into world politics, Harris also draws on new evidence from neuroscience and insights from philosophy to explore spirituality as a biological, brain-based need. He calls on us to invoke that need in taking a secular humanistic approach to solving the problems of this world.

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Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan Jacoby

-Los Angeles Times Book Review

At a time when the separation of church and state is under attack as never before, Freethinkers offers a powerful defense of the secularist heritage that gave Americans the first government in the world founded not on the authority of religion but on the bedrock of human reason. In impassioned, elegant prose, celebrated author Susan Jacoby traces more than two hundred years of secularist activism, beginning with the fierce debate over the omission of God from the Constitution. Moving from nineteenth-century abolitionism and suffragism through the twentieth century's civil liberties, civil rights, and feminist movements, Freethinkers illuminates the neglected achievements of secularists who, allied with tolerant believers, have led the battle for reform in the past and today.
Rich with such iconic figures as Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, Thomas Paine, and the once-famous Robert Green Ingersoll, Freethinkers restores to history the passionate humanists who struggled against those who would undermine the combination of secular government and religious liberty that is the glory of the American system.

The New York Times

Ardent and insightful, Ms. Jacoby seeks to rescue a proud tradition from the indifference of posterity. Her title was shrewdly chosen. "Freethinker" is what rebels against spiritual authority once called themselves, and it ennobles the breed with, if she'll excuse the term, the holiest adjective in the lexicon of American politics. Her pantheon of skeptics includes names like Jefferson, Paine, Darrow and Elizabeth Cady Stanton, author of The Woman's Bible that ridiculed the sexism of the apostles. And she rediscovers such figures as Robert Ingersoll, the Gilded Age orator who drew huge audiences with calls for "a religion of humanity" that would venerate only "inquiry, investigation and thought." — Michael Kazin


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Religious-based education on trial in California

Now what kind of mess is this? Thanks to W's pro-Christian/No Private School Left-Behind/desecularization agenda. We have seen mega-churches crop up across the country building more of their own Christian schools than they have in the past.

As no surprise here comes the whining and complaining of persecution. Wah! The University of California, like all public universities, is a secular institution. I am sure UC is not discriminating or persecuting Christian applicants that come from Christian schooled education because they are Christian. I would wager my left nut that UC simply looks at these applications and find inadequate criteria met for admission to UC.

I wonder why. Maybe 'cause a Christian education is...well, inadequate and lacking.

That's a no-brainer as is illustrated in these first two snippets.

Sarah Potter-Smith, a sophomore at Calvary Chapel Christian School, can’t understand why anyone would think that learning any subject from a Christian perspective is inferior to a secular education.

Let's see. Damn! I can't find any statistics or reports except this: North Jersey Media Group providing local news, sports & classifieds for Northern New Jersey!

“We learn just as much as the public schools around here do and, actually, we learn more. For example, we have to learn about evolution on top of creationism, too,” said the 15-year-old.

No. According to the above study; on average public and private educations differ insignificantly.
Here's the rub though, Creationism is not a recognized or validated science...period and never will be because it's a theological philosophy not a biological science. Armed with the Creation Sword Christian educated students attempting to enter in public university will find a hard time discussing "real" religious theology, comparative that is (though, in my opinion, [theology] is all bullshit anyway). I don't think most fundamental Christians could handle discussion of other Creation myths without having a hissy fit.

Calvary English teacher Shannon Jonker, 26, said the Christian perspective helps students identify the many religious and biblical themes in literature. “We’re reading Frankenstein right now, and there are allusions to the creation story,” said Jonker, a 2002 graduate of University of California, Riverside.

Why does this look like the seed for a BEAST post? Frankenstein!!! That is just brilliant! Amazing!
Perhaps there are allusions, I'll not dispute it. But I'd like to know how they are interpreting it. God as Dr. Frankenstein? Adam as the "monster"? Damn, that's pure academic genius.

The Christian perspective is why people send their children to a Christian school, said Robert Tyler, head of Advocates for Faith and Freedom and Calvary’s lawyer in a controversial case against the University of California system.

I thought conservatives, I could probably lump religious conservatives here, were against frivolous lawsuits?

...an association of Christian schools...charges that the admissions policy at the university unconstitutionally discriminates against them because they teach from a religious perspective.

I disagree and would add that these schools provide a piss-poor education. It's not discrimination. It's a simple case of crunching the numbers to see who is up to snuff on standardized testing.

“This is just another example of what’s happening on a much larger scale,” said Tyler, who maintains that the university is attempting to secularize private Christian education.

I have a solution. If they are bitching about a secular education, why the fuck do they even want to get into a secular university? It's called higher education for a reason; pack their bags to Oral Roberts, Liberty, Regent or Patrick Henry College. Where's John Stossel damnit, only if just to say "Give me a break".

Christopher Patti, counsel for UC. “There is no prohibition on religious content in UC a-g courses,” he said. “If the course adequately teaches the subject matter and adequately teaches the skills that students need in that subject, then the fact that it may also make reference to other theories doesn’t disqualify it, even religious theories,”

Mm..hm.

He was referring to the charge that the university rejected core courses using textbooks by leading Christian publishers Bob Jones University Press and A Beka Book because of religious content. These included biology texts that presented evolution but also the biblical account of creation and intelligent design as alternative theories.
UC said it rejected such texts “not because they have religious content, but because they fail to meet the university’s standards for effectively teaching the required subject matter.” UC, which also has disapproved courses from secular and other religious schools, said the books might have been approved as supplementary instead of primary texts.

DUH! Wow! I had an epiphany. Why Christian education is a farce. You can cheat by reading the bible!

Patti said, “The hypothetical that every core course would be disqualified is so far-fetched because Calvary already has a very large number of approved courses, including courses in every one of the a-g requirements.”

Just not the Creation and Christian doctrinal type of courses I'm sure.

Moreover, he said, if a school does not have approval for all or any of the 15 a-g courses, there are other ways for students to satisfy the requirement. These include scoring in the top two-thirds on the relevant SAT II tests in missing courses or by achieving a total score of 3450 on the three-part SAT Reasoning Test and two SAT II subject tests. However, since the majority of applicants achieve eligibility through approved courses in high school, the Christian schools consider these alternatives unfairly burdensome for their students.

Unfairly burdensome for their student? Thank you, thank you. This is exactly what the hell I was getting at with this post. Christian educated students are not up to snuff on these standardized tests. Does anybody have an explanation? How about a piss-poor education?

Here's how:

CLASSES DISMISSED
Examples of courses at Christian schools rejected by the University of California:

Course: Special Providence: Christianity and the American Republic

Text: American Government for Christian Schools (Bob Jones University Press)

Reason rejected: Content was not consistent with the “empirical historical knowledge generally accepted in the collegiate community.”

Course: Christianity and Morality in American Literature

Text: American Literature: Classics for Christians Vol. 5 (A Beka Book)

Reason Rejected: Used only an anthology instead of complete works; selected works inconsistent with university “expectations regarding critical thinking and broad exposure to writers’ key works.”

Course: Biology

Text: Biology for Christian Schools 2nd Edition (Bob Jones University Press)

Reason rejected: Text “is not consistent with the knowledge generally accepted in the scientific community” and operates from the premise that “science is invalid to the extent it conflicts with Christian belief.”