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Great Quote

I wanted to share with you a quote I read today.  It was left as a comment by someone reading the transcript of the phone call I received from Stacy Harp.   This comment really sums up the silly idea that being gay is all about sex and was made by a handsome guy named Jason.

You can reduce just about anyone’s relationship to sex if you completely ignore the humanity of the people involved.

Day of Silence 2008 Part 1

Part one of my thoughts on the day of silence are really just an exact repost of what I wrote last year. Not much has changed for gay youth. The problems, the bullying and the violence have gotten worse rather than better and sadly, we lost a few beautiful young lives in the process. Below is a repost of what I wrote on Last year’s Day of Silence. I will be writing my thoughts for this year and posting them soon.

Today marks the 11th year of the “Day of Silence“, a day that marks the silence that is forced on those who are being harassed about their real or perceived sexuality. Studies indicate that 1/3 of all students report being harassed over sexual orientation issues. The problem is very real and the silence kids experience is a form of structural violence that does its share of psychological damage.

Currently, a group called “Not our Kids” is asking parents to keep their kids home to protest the protest which is the Day of Silence. The coalition is led by none other than ex-gay, Stephen Bennett and it has been pushed hard by groups like Americans for Truth led by Peter LaBarbera. The actions of this group, pulling kids from school, only highlights the problem and brings more attention to the cause. While this coalition thinks they are making some statement by pulling kids from school, they are actually helping to support the meaning behind the Day of Silence since it is these very groups who create the climate that fuels the hate that causes the silence gay youth are forced to tolerate. The people who support the Day of Silence should send the people who don’t a thank you card since the brouhaha they have created helps bring the problem into the light.

As usual, groups like Americans for Truth, Stephen Bennett Ministries, Faith2Action and others ignore the real problems and offer no alternative solutions to the problems. They claim that homosexuality shouldn’t be discussed in the school, along with an array of issues they have deemed moral issues. I would ask, what gives these folks the power to decide what is a sexuality, science, educational or moral issue?

Homosexuality is not just a moral issue, it has a human face, especially when we are talking about youth. Anti-gay activists are so quick to call any outspoken advocate for gay rights “militant”, “Radical” or “Extreme” when we demand fair treatment or equal rights. The true facts show that these groups are far more militant in action and go to far greater lengths to spread misinformation and untruth than any other political group I have experienced. They claim up and down to be religious groups, but religion plays a small role and politics seems to rule the day.

Gandhi held the belief that each side of a conflict holds a piece of the truth and a piece of the untruth. He believed that nonviolent conflict resolution could be found if each group sat down and pulled together the truths each held and dispelled the untruths. I have personally seen more gays and lesbians willing to do this than I have ever seen from anti-gay groups. I have seen more gay activists willing to compromise for peaceful resolution on the issue than I have ever seen from groups like Americans for Truth or Faith2Action. I see these groups fight, complain and make demands to silence and dehumanize gays but rarely do we see any of them offer solutions to the problems gays and lesbians face and as it has been stated a thousand times in history, if you are not part of the solution, than you must be part of the problem.

The Problem:

  • The reason most commonly cited for being harassed frequently in schools is a student’s appearance, as four in ten (39%) teens report that students are frequently harassed for the way they look or their body size. Right behind was sexual orientation as one-third (33%) of teens report that students are frequently harassed because they are or are perceived to be lesbian, gay or bisexual.

  • LGBT students are three times as likely as non-LGBT students to say that they do not feel safe at school (22% vs. 7%).

  • 90% of LGBT students (vs. 62% of non-LGBT teens) have been harassed or assaulted during the past year.

The Solution from Anti-gay groups:

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Other posts on the Day of Silence:

Christian Response to the GLBT Youth: Day of Silence?

 

Will Peter LaBarbera Protest this?

Peter LaBarbera known for doing “research” at gay baths and street fairs like the Folsom Fair, should be packing his bags and heading to Florida to protest this “HETEROSEXUAL” sex club that holds “Naughty Teacher” Night and other fun gatherings.   They have Friday Night “Kinky Ice Cream Social” and a hot tub for 5 that can “get pretty hott”.

The club, called the Hunt club, appears to be someone’s home. It is a place where “members” can go for sex and socializing and condoms are provided.   Neighbors began protesting last Friday during the Naught night.   They say, “community values” are important in the neighborhood, but denied suggestions that staunch Christian beliefs were propelling the protestor’s opposition.   Of course that because all the real Christians are at Folsom video taping the side action and protesting the gays.

If this were a gay thing, LaBarbera would be on a plane with his video camera ready to expose those nasty homosexuals.  Since it is a residential community of heterosexuals in Florida, I doubt the same amount of exposing will go on from the anti-gays.   The reason is that if anti-gay organizations gave this heterosexual behavior any attention it would show that homosexuals are more similar to straights than different.   

GET Magazine - Feature for April: Gay Men’s Domestic Violence Project

03_08-cover.jpgA recent survey conducted during Gay Pride in 2007 showed that 1 in 4 Rhode Island gay men, bisexual men, and transgender individuals (GBT) experience domestic violence at some point in their life. Sadly, 85% of the respondents do not know any resources for victims of GBT domestic violence and 60% don’t believe RI domestic laws apply to same sex relationships. Far too many of us don’t believe it happens in gay relationships or perhaps we just don’t think about it.In an effort to reach out to GBT victims of domestic violence, the Verizon Foundation has awarded a $75,000 grant to the Massachusetts-based Gay Men’s Domestic Violence Project (GMDVP) to expand its innovative 24-hour, hotline program throughout Southern New England, including Rhode Island.

Curt Rogers, Director of GMDVP and a domestic violence survivor, said “the GMDVP hotline provides a necessary service for victims who often fall through the cracks of traditional domestic violence hotlines or outreach.” Deborah DeBare, Executive Director of the Rhode Island Coalition Against Domestic Violence welcomed the hotline’s expansion into Rhode Island: “Our network of agencies is looking forward to collaborating with the Gay Men’s Domestic Violence Hotline to ensure that victims are able to access specialized services.” Rogers noted that “when GMDVP first began in Massachusetts in 1994, there was reluctance from the GBT community to acknowledge and embrace the issue. It took six years for GMDVP to find acceptance within the Massachusetts GBT community. However, Rhode Island’s GBT community seems to be poised to acknowledge the reality of the issue and begin working to help victims.”

The GMDVP began in 1994 with a gay man who was turned away from multiple domestic violence shelters in Massachusetts solely because he is a gay man. He was determined to prevent this from happening to other gay men. From 1994 to 1996, a time their website calls the “start up years”, the organization was driven by volunteers, incorporated and co-founded the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender Domestic Violence Coalition who main goal was to educated domestic violence service providers in Massachusetts. Over the next eighteen years, the GMDVP grew to multiple offices, multiple programs and countless awards for their efforts. The organization now offers a full array of domestic violence services, including a safe house, a 24-hour hotline and legal advocacy. Additionally the organization engages in aggressive education and policy advocacy activities to ensure GBT victims have access to services. “In my situation, I was turned away from domestic violence shelters while escaping an attempted murder because the mainstream shelters focused solely on female victims,” said Rogers.

GMDVP has operated a Massachusetts statewide 24-hour hotline for eight years. They now bring this valuable, life saving service to Rhode Island with the help of the Verizon Foundation, The philanthropic arm of Verizon Communications. The Massachusetts and Rhode Island Verizon President says, “Verizon is very proud to work with GMDVP to assist on this worthy project.”

What is Domestic Violence?

There are many stereotypes driving the myths around domestic violence. The most common misconception is that domestic violence is just physical abuse, but is can be emotional abuse, psychological abuse, financial control, social control, stalking or even sexual abuse. The next biggest misconception is that married heterosexual women are always the victims, but the victims come from any age, gender, race, education, cultural, religion and/or sexual orientation.

Domestic abuse is about two things: power and control over the victim. Despite what many people believe, domestic violence is not due to the abuser’s loss of control over his behavior. In fact, violence is a deliberate choice made by the abuser in order to take control over his partner. Tactics of control may include intimidation, denial and blame, isolation, accusations of infidelity, humiliation and physical violence.

What is different for Victims of Same Sex Domestic Violence?

I asked Iain Gill of the GMDVP to answer this question for me and he stated, “Firstly there are very limited services for GLBT people affected by intimate partner abuse. Secondly homophobia is still a virulent element in the U.S. culture, as well as bi- and trans-phobia. GLBT people affected by partner abuse can be reluctant to seek service from mainstream organizations, including the police, courts, and health care, for fear of being abused by the system. Then there is also a Lack of Knowledge issue: Most straight people know little about GLBT people and less about domestic violence amongst GLBT people. This lack of knowledge hampers providing support for people affected by GLBT partner abuse, whether the support is informal from family and straight friends or formal, through service-providers, such as mental health professionals or law enforcement. Add to that, increased isolation for GBT folks from family and co workers.”

Recognizing domestic violence is the first step to stopping it.

If you believe you or someone you love is involved in an abusive relationship, it is important to get help. It is important that we overcome our fear of getting involved. It is also difficult to get many victims to admit they are in an abusive relationship. Some of the warning signs may be frequent injuries that always seem to have an excuse of an “accident” or mishap, frequent harassing phone calls from a partner, or sudden withdrawal of an otherwise outgoing person.

The best thing you could do is get some sound advice by calling the Gay Men’s Domestic Violence Project’s Hotline at 1-800- 832-1901.

Day of Truth is lacking its main ingredient

Daniel Gonzales over at Box Turtle Bulletin has produced another informative video about the Ex-gay Myths.   He writes:

The religious right legal group Alliance Defense Fund started an anti-gay “Day of Truth” in response to the pro-gay “Day of Silence.” The “Day of Truth” is little more than an excuse to push ex-gay misinformation on queer youth in public schools which prompted me to make a video examining and mocking ideas promoted by the “Day of Truth.”

The Phantom Penis Theory

A study published in the January issue of the Journal of Consciousness Studies explores the idea of phantom body parts, including sexual organs.   The theory behind the study is the brains body map may include body parts that are not there.   Children who were born without arms can have vivid phantom sensations of having arms, including complicated gestures such as waving goodbye.   The theory was first noticed in soldiers who had the legs or arms removed who would expereience phantom pain or sensations that their missing body part is still there or in men who have been in accidents and have lost their penis.   Women who have had a breast removed dur to cancer report similar sensations.

The theory also explores transgender men or women who were born feeling they are not the gender the body displays.   These transgender men actually experience phantom sensations of having a penis, even though they have never had one.  Also, men who have had a male to female transition don’t report having the same feelings or sensations for the penis they had removed, claiming it was never a part of their body image in the first place.

It has never been that shocking or hard to believe for me that some people are born in  the wrong body.  That their brains don’t match or link up with their bodies.   We have had people with all sorts of crosswiring in the brain who see sound or hear colors.  We have people who are born with both sets of sexual organs.  With the realization that all thoise biological occurances have been documented and studied, it makes complete sense to me that someone would feel that they are living in the wrong body.

From the article:

When a limb is amputated, the area of the brain representing that limb is no longer activated by touch. But such areas do not become vacant lots. They get invaded by nerve fibers from adjacent brain areas that map intact body parts. When those parts - say the face or shoulder - are touched, sensations are felt in the missing limb.

Not long after this discovery, a few people wrote to Ramachandran to say that they experienced phantom penises after losing the organ in an accident or to disease. They even had phantom orgasms.

This got Ramachandran wondering whether the phantoms applied to transsexuality. To find out, he surveyed 20 male-to-female transsexual women and 29 female-to-male transsexual men.

You can finish reading about this study by clicking here.

What does opposition to homosexuality minus the hate look like?

Many times on this site, I have offered to anti-gay Christians the idea that they could still oppose homosexuality without spewing hate or contributing to the culture of violence that exists for gay people. I still truly believe that can be done. I would like to start offering some concrete suggestions that anti-gay, Christian organizations could use to oppose homosexuality but without the hate speech.

I would appreciate pro-gay folks taking a moment to empathize with those who are oppose gay rights and give them some concrete requests to how they can voice religious opposition to homosexuality and gay marriage without promoting violence or hate toward gays. Understanding that some people believe homosexuality is against their religion, not everyone who voices opposition to us is a religious extremist. Some people just hold different beliefs. Perhaps we can talk about better ways to voice those beliefs and even run organizations that lobby for anti-gay rights groups without hate.

I would also ask pro-gay folks to try their best to frame their request in Positive Actions Language. In other words, ask people what you DO want them to do, not what you DON’T want them to do.

  1. To start with, I would ask that folks who run organizations opposed to gay rights, write blogs or even just write to the local paper, start talking about anti-gay violence and condemning it very vocally. The first way to show us that you don’t support violence against gays and lesbians is to speak out on that violence as much as you speak out on everything gay you don’t like. If you are truly out to spread a positive biblical message, then speaking out against the violence against us is right in line with the work of Christ.  It is also just the right thing to do.
  2. If you claim you are a resource on homosexuality whether biblical or not, be sure your information is balanced and based on PEER REVIEWED research. Refrain from using the work of Paul Cameron, Bell and Weinberg and certainly Dr. John Diggs (who also uses Cameron and previously refuted science) as those are not peer-reviewed science.   Sure, both sides of this cultural war can provide all sorts of stats that say all sorts of things. If your work is truly about being compassionate and truthful, then prove it by using real science and not pseudo-science.   Present both sides, not just the side you want to hear.
  3. Use language that disarms rather than insults. If your message is truly about “reaching out” to gays and lesbians than stay away from calling us insulting and dehumanizing names like sodomite and militant. Strongly, I would recommend you drop the use of the word “homosexual” as an adjective to describe us as it will only make gays and lesbians cover their ears or put up their dukes to defend. Use words like “gay” or “same-sex attracted”.   If your mission is to “save us” or “help us” then we need to hear what you have to say. We don’t hear you when you offend us right from the get go! If your message is really directed at those who already think we are sick and evil and would beat us up in a dark ally, call us what you want, it is working. Hate crimes are up against us, your work is effective. Your work inspires others and I would like you to think what reaction you are trying to inspire, change in the world through compassion or violence? I am not happy you oppose my life, but could you at least express your concerns and beliefs without insulting me or calling me names?
  4. Gay kids are getting bullied and that is statistically proven. They are also attempting and too often succeeding at suicide. That is also a fact.  Promote youth safety.  If you are opposed to teaching about homosexuality in schools or anti-bullying campaigns that include homosexuality as a subject, then you damn well better have a solution to offer that stops the violence and shame that makes life miserable for these kids. Don’t just think of ways to stop what pro-gay advocates are doing to stop the bullies. If you don’t like what pro-gay advocates are doing, then come up with a solid plan to stop the bullying based on sexuality and present it. Otherwise, start supporting the efforts to protect kids who are perceived as gay from being tortured and abused.
  5. Find balance! If everything that comes out of your organization is a negative message about gays, then something is wrong. Gays and lesbians want the same things out of life that you do. I cannot and will not believe that you unable to come up with ways to present your message without the barrage of negative pictures of gays and lesbians. That barrage of negative-only articles and statistics creates enemy images of gays and lesbians that can and do lead to violence against us. We value our safety and would like you to value our safety as well.
  6. Work with us! Yes, I know that sounds crazy, but did you ever think to meet with us and talk about how your needs could be met? Gays and lesbians really are reasonable human beings. Have you ever thought of setting up some meetings with your organization and pro-gay organizations to see what you can work on together and what you can agree on. Then move to the things you don’t agree on and see of you can work some stuff out. The most amazing problems in the world were solved by the most unlikely of collaborations. Try it, it could create peace (something this planet is in great need of).
  7. Choose your metaphors carefully! The only reason this is a “war” is because you continue to promote it as one. If you promoted it as a collaboration or a disagreement, then it would be that instead of a war. This is America, we are both entitled to advocate for what we believe is right. That doesn’t mean we are enemies, it means we want different things and we have different beliefs. I would request rather than presening gays and lesbians as the enemy that people should “defeat” that you could present this as more of a negotiation of ideas not a war.
  8. Admit it when someone on your side just goes too far. Comparing us to terrorist went too far. You all know that, but rallied anyway. I don’t believe for one minute you are really agreed with Sally Kern, you supported her to tow the party line. Stop! When someone goes to far, call them on it. Prove you can be reasonable and you may find we are reasonable back! It is amazing what can be accomplished when people truly make an effort to be reasonable. (and stop expecting the other side to do it and be the change you wish to see in the world)
  9. We would appreciate it if you could acknowledge that our requests are valid requests even if you disagree with what we want. There is no secret agenda. We want equality and safety. Those are the goals and they are reasonable. Their are multiple tactics and strategies going on to try and reach those goals. Gays and lesbians are from all walks of life and many different beliefs. We have many different “lifestyles” and backgrounds as well. We don’t all agree with each other about the best strategy to reach the goals of equality and safety. We even bicker amongst ourselves trying to decide the best way to get what we want, but there is no secret agenda. We just want equality. We would appreciate it if you would take the time to really hear our requests and needs and think not about how to sop us, but how to help us. Example would be “I don’t support X but would be willing to support Y.”
  10. Lastly, vow yourself and your organization to abandon myths about homosexuality, especially the one about us choosing to be gay. No one chooses to be gay. Each time you say that you minimize the whole issue to a simple choice and if it were so simple, I wouldn’t be writing this list of requests right now. I would be out marrying a women and having children, but I am not. I am writing this list of requests I hope you will at least consider.

I am sure if people sat down at the table and made the decision to hear each other’s needs and feelings, so much could be resolved. I believe we get so wrapped up in the idea of winning, we stop hearing and we stop being rational.   Both those opposed and those in favor of gay rights are guilty of this.    I would advocate for rational reactions over knee jerked reactions and war like metaphors as they will let us move on to more important issues like the environment and wars. Who marries who will become extremely unimportant when we have no planet to get married on because it either died or was blown up!

Words of Wisdom: Jeremy Hooper

I have long admired the choice of nonviolence that Jeremy Hooper uses on his website, Good As You. Jeremy makes a choice to not call our opposition names or say means things yet calls them out on their anti-gay ways. He uses the power of humor and wit to change hearts and minds. I would aspire to do the same but I am not that witty or clever (at least not online.)

This May 6, 2008 issue of the advocate has a small piece written by Jeremy Hooper on why he has chosen this method of activism:

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It’s one part strategy, one part sincerity. While it’s true I made a deliberate choice to take a more pacifist approach, it honestly feels more like that tactic chose me. When I entered into this “culture war” debate, the stones just felt wrong in my hand. The more I studied the fight, the more I began to feel that victory would come by highlighting the slings and arrows that are directed toward our community, not by regifting those weapons in a pro-gay fashion.

Defeating Darwin in 4 Easy Steps

The uber right wing group, Renew America has an article up today that try’s to promote ID by debunking Darwin in four steps, but the 4 myths thhe writer has chosen are the four most popular tactics by creationist.   All of these goofy things have been refuted, so why don’t these creationists stop using old worn out myths….

The writer, Bryan Fischer says:

Before we even start, we ought to notice that, if evolution is true, there would be no way to know it. Because evolution teaches that everything that exists is the product of the random collision of atoms, this logically includes the thoughts I am thinking about evolution. But if my thoughts are the product of the random collision of atoms, there is no reason to think that any of them are true — they just are.

The funny thing is you can stop there.   As soon as any creationist says that evolution is random collision of atoms, I close my ears and stop listen or in this case I stop reading.  There is nothing random about it.    Random would imply it is like aimlessly throwing darts at the wall.  That is not the case at all. 

Mr. Fischer also says:

Intelligent Design theory offers not only a Watchmaker but a Watch-winder; evolution does not.

What he doesn’t tell you is that by offering a watch-winder, intelligent design creates a new set of questions rather than a set of answers.  Who created the watchmaker and did that being also creae the watch-winder?  Evolution seeks to give answers not new questions.

There ar far more qualified people to refute this mythology than me.  I will leave it to them.

Quick thought on the Pope’s Visit to America

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The Pope has come to spread some message about god to America wearing his prada loafers and traveling in his million dollar bullet proof buggy, but being my cyncial self, I doubt very much he going to be successful.  Convincing the starving and homeless folks in America that god cares about them and their poverty while selling his bullet proof buggy alone could feed them for a year is tough.  He will go home to his mansion with servants they are going back to their cardboard box and a soup kitchen.   I can’t speak for others, but hypocrisy makes me angry.  

Wouldn’t a spokesman for Jesus Christ at least in some way resemble Jesus Christ?

I wonder what it feels like to be watching the Pope travel with his entourage and fancy cars telling people god loves them when you have no money and little hope.   What is it like to hear that message while your home is on the forclosure auction block and your job just got shipped to India?  What happens when you have no money and two sick kids?

It is easy to say nice things to the poor about how god has a plan for their lives when god’s plan for you is a mansion in Rome.

If you think about it today, in celebration of the Pope’s visit, gather up some canned foods and take them to your community food bank.

Just for the record….

The same person who has this to say as a person: 

“The homosexual activists online, such as Joe Brummer, are exactly the type of homosexual I have encountered that have been anything but compassionate, kind etc. They indeed are the true hate filled liars and slanderers, unrighteous, unholy, sexually immoral and deviant. It’s no wonder they act the way the do….”

and also this to say about me as a person:

And I do keep in mind that most homosexuals aren’t haters, liars, antiChrist bigots like Joe and Kevin are. But they certainly are bad representatives of the homosexual community and certainly won’t win me or any other Christian I know to their beliefs or side. Now maybe if they were more loving and tolerant and less hateful and less bigoted, then bible obeying and bible believing Christians like me, could have an open dialog. Until they see the error of their ways and how they truly treat people like me, who they truly despise and truly hate, then no progress would be made.

follows that up with:

Maybe they should keep that in mind before they pick up their next verbal stone and sling it in my direction.

Am I the only one who finds that confusing….. “Do as I say, not as I do” kind of thing, right?

Is what she is really saying is that if I write anything about anti-gay Christian activists and the misinformation they spread about gays and lesbians, I will have personal attacks and name calling to make me think about he next time I fling stones?  Does she really think I am flinging stones?   Is she hoping I will be too scared of her name calling to continue writing about anti-gay propaganda?   Is she hoping I will change the presentation of my articles on hate speech by calling me  a deviant?   I am baffled at this.

I have to admit, that is confusing, but I can see that Stacy feels distressed and anguished at Kevin’s and my writings about her.   She has read our articles as attacks on her as a person rather than us attacking her writings and public comments about gays and lesbians.    This reminds me that sometimes how we say things and what we mean by them are not always what our listeners hear. 

Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed…Exposed!

Ben Stein’s new film, “Expelled” is now in theaters. This massive piece of religious propaganda called “Expelled” is being shown in theaters to promote the idea of intelligent design (ID) as an actual scientific theory. It is not, in fact, it is not even close as the film, Expelled claims.expelled.jpg

The film, Expelled makes a number of claims, all of which are about frightening including that Evolution is wrong. One of the claims in the film Expelled, is that ID is being suppressed. Ben Stein says: “Intelligent design was being suppressed in a systematic and ruthless fashion.” That is completely false….

The FACTS:

Intelligent design has not produced any research to suppress. When prominent ID proponent Michael Behe was asked about his research, and why “you don’t do those tests?” he responded, “I myself would prefer to spend time in what I would consider to be more fruitful endeavors.” If even proponents of ID do not think it is a fruitful enterprise, why should the scientific community take any interest in it?

As shown elsewhere on this site, the supposed cases of suppression offered in Expelled are dishonest attempts to make mountains out of molehills and to create martyrs where martyrdom does not exist.

Intelligent design is scientifically unproductive, and this perhaps explains why scientists like Guillermo Gonzalez and Michael Behe publish far fewer papers after they become attracted to intelligent design. Ultimately, intelligent design’s lack of success in science departments is the fault of the flawed and unscientific nature of intelligent design itself, not the result of bias in the scientific community.

The issue is not the suppression of ID, but the lack of warrant for its scientific claims. And ultimately, ID has an uphill struggle to demonstrate that it is, indeed, science. The fundamental problem with intelligent design as science is that intelligent design claims cannot be tested. Scientific testing requires that there be some set of phenomena which are incompatible with your idea. No observation could possibly be incompatible with a claim that an “intelligent agent” (whom everyone recognizes as God) acted to, say, introduce information into a system. Untestable claims are not scientific claims. Regardless of their attractiveness as religious ideas (although many people of faith strongly reject intelligent design) intelligent design has not passed muster as science.

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You can find more of the claims of the movie Expelled at this Expelled Exposed Website where all of the claims made by the movie Expelled are being examined and refuted with actual science.

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What is Compassion? Am I compassionate?

I was recently accused of not being a compassionate person.   I feel umoved by this as the statement didn’t come from someone who knows me with any intimacy.   The statement did get me to thinking about what is compassion and what does it mean to be compassionate.

At first, I thought to myself that I could stand to be more compassionate.  I suppose that can be said for all of makind these days.  So I would agree that I could be more compassionate to my fellow man.   I think we all could.

The Princeton online dictionary defines compassion as: 

  • a deep awareness of and sympathy for another’s suffering
  • the humane quality of understanding the suffering of others and wanting to do something about it  
  • With that in mind, I wonder to myself if I truly am a compassionate guy?  

    For one thing, since learning about Nonviolent Communication, I am not big on sympathy.   The idea of sympathy means that I am feeling your pain with you.  It reminds me of the saying, “if you’re in pain, then I am in pain.”  I wonder how useful or helpful it is to be suffering with someone.  How can I truly be there for them if I am focused on the fact I am suffering in pain.   How can I truly focus on your pain, if I am distracted by my own?  

    I would prefer to focus on giving empathy.  This is easy to write, and hard to do.  Empathy means I ackowledge your pain and suffering and want to help you end it.   It means that I hear what you are feeling and I am hoping to learn what you are needing to end the pain.   Empathy means we understand anothers pain, not feel it with them.

    When I read the post accusing me of being uncompassionate, I can see the writer is shocked that Bishop Tutu would call GLBT folks compassionate because her experience with gay folks has been different.   She seems to feel hurt and frustrated that Bishop Tutu’s would say what he did.   It seems she has had a different experience and would like it acknowledged.   I also read that she is confident that if others googled these gay people’s names (including mine) that would reveal how unlike the Bishop’s description we gay people are. Perhaps this blogger will let me know if I have understood her feelings.

    I don’t know if I am compassionate or not, but I know I started this blog because I am tired of the violence in the world, especially based on religion, sexuality and race.   My goal is now what it has been from day one.   To point out the injustice of hate speech and hope that new ways can be reached to express our differences that don’t attack or hurt others.

    I guess I should state for the record that this rant is heavily influence by Marshall Rosenberg’s NVC and Thich Nhat Hanh’s book, Peace is Every Step.  I have added a video below of Marshall Rosenberg giving about a 10 minute overview of NVC.  It is only part 1 of 3.  I would suggest to others, you watch all three. 

    Illinois House Votes to Limit Pool of Educators

    In the year 2008, the only way to bring in the brightest and most promising teachers is to offer the best benefits and salary.   Illinois took a turn today that will insure that they cannot attract the best and the brightest teachers for their schools.   The Illinois House of Representatives voted 43 to 67 to defeat HB 4731, a bill that would have allowed unmarried and same-sex partners of public school teachers to qualify as surviving spouses for purpose of survivor and death benefits.   Without this legislation, schools now have fewer tools to attract the best teachers.   This is truly a sad day for Illinois.

    Of course, the pro-family/anti-gay Americans for Truth is doing a happy dance thinking they have done some great service to their State and the Country.   I feel sad they are unable to see the damage they are causing youth in that state.   Without this legislation, many of the brightest teachers will be choosing employment in schools that respect and acknowledge their relationships.  This will limit the State of Illinois to only hire teachers that fit into a limited category, therefore leaving some of the best teachers open for universities and schools who do offer better partner benefits.

    Full Transcript of Anti-gay Activist Stacy Harp Phone Call

    Genocide for Jesus (Emorph) has taken the time to transcribe the whole phone call to me from pro-family/anti-gay advocate, Stacy Harp. Read the whole thing here, but for now, here is a sample:

    Stacy: You’re obsessed with me, I think you-you really like me. I think you want to have a relationship with me, frankly.
    Joe: Wow, that’s out there, but okay.
    Stacy: Oh wait, either that or…
    Joe: You can believe whatever you would like to believe…
    Stacy: Either that Joe, or you know what, you want to have a relationship with little three year old kids. I honestly cannot believe that you support teaching homosexuality and about homosexual sex to three year olds. Do you know how sick that is?
    Joe: I don’t support teaching sex to three year olds!
    Stacy: Oh, I’m sorry, but you actually wrote on my blog that you think it’s totally fine to teach homosexuality, to three year olds. So that’s…
    Joe: I think it should be done in an age appropriate way.
    Stacy: You said three year olds, you commented on the subject of three year olds.
    Joe: You know what, I know a three year old, who knows all about his neighbors, that happen to be gay. He doesn’t know anything about sex, he just knows, that there’s two men who are a couple behind him.
    Stacy: Homosexuality is all about sex.
    Joe: …he doesn’t understand that there’s sex involved in it, he just knows that the two people behind him are a couple. He doesn’t know more than that.
    Stacy: Homosexuality is all about sex Joe.
    Joe: If that’s what you want to believe - we both know that’s not true.
    Stacy: Oh it’s totally true. You would not be a homosexual if it wasn’t for the fact that you like men.
    Joe: You wouldn’t be a heterosexual if it wasn’t for the fact that you like men. Ditto.

    You can read all my thoughts about this and hear the recording of the call here.

    Creating Theocracy 101: Janet Folger Edition

    Janet Folger, president of Faith2Action, has an article up at World Net Daily entitled, How to Win the Culture War.  The article has several issues that scare me, but the biggest would be the metaphors of war and battle language she uses.   Ms. Folger uses terms like “defend” and “attack.”   She refers to the “battle to defend marriage” and “Winning the cultural War” and at one point she outlines the debates in popular culture as “Battlefronts” and discusses moving away from “defense” and adopting a better “offense”.  She refers to the bible and the spirit as a “weapon.” Is anyone else feeling nervous at the use of such warlike metaphors in talking about hot button issues of our day?

    Commonly, in conflict resolution studies, we can tell much about how a person views the outcome of a conflict but the metaphors they use to describe the conflict.   Some people may refer to the conflict as a fire that needs to be controlled or extinguished.   Some may see the conflict as an animal using statement like ‘this is ripping me apart” or “she came out of no where and pounced me.”  Others may see a conflict as a dance using statements, “We just are not dancing to the same song.”  

    The metaphors people subconsciously choose to describe conflict can give us much insight into how they see the outcome of that conflict.  Someone who sees conflict as a battle or war may see the outcome as a win-lose situation without much compromise.   Someone who compares the conflict to a dance may see collaboration and synchronization as the way to solve the conflict.   One may see the outcome of a conflict at the end of a journey with roadblocks, bumpy roads and steep hills to climb.   Listening to the metaphor someone chooses can help move the conflict into a place where it can be seen in a different way.

    In the case of many right wing conservatives and fundamentalist Christians, I tend to see the war and battle metaphors come up often when talking about conflict in our culture.   The problem I see in this is the win-lose outcomes this predicts and the violent imagery of the metaphor.   I also feel uncomfortable with the divisive nature of this picture.

    Ms. Folger’s article seems to have an overtone of an epic level battle against good and evil.   Sadly, she presents gays and lesbians as an enemy to be conquered.    After reading the war like language, the divisive projections and thinking about what war looks like, I find this metaphor particularly disturbing.   War is bloody and violent.  Is that how Ms. Folger sees dealing with the issues of gay rights and abortion?

    It would appear Ms. Folger sees no compromise or middle ground with gays and lesbians.  Despite the last 20 years of science and research that seem to point more and more to  a biological cause for homosexuality and less and less for changing sexuality, Ms. Folger offers no suggestions of how to treat those who are gay or lesbian.  She appears to just want control or to win against us.   She offers no picture or view of what life will be like for gays and lesbians should she succeed at her goals, which she lists in her article.  I can’t seem to tell from her article if the gays are all in camps or just hiding in shadows but there appears to be no room in Ms. Folgers America for us.

    Aside from the seek and destroy tactics she spells out for GLBT folks, Ms. Folger also demands an end to abortion, a place in the schools for creationism and the ability to remove any judge who rules in a way Ms. Folger deems illegal.  (She neglects to mention how out of balance that would make our judicial system.)  I am personally scared to death of the America Ms. Folger and those of her like are working toward as it seems to have no room for gays and lesbians, atheists, non-Christians and any judge with an unpopular view of the constitution. 

    At the end of the day, I think Ms. Folger is making a call to arms.   She is asking Christians to fight in her “army” for god.     Sadly, those she paints as the enemy to battle against are not on some foreign soil but fellow Americans with different views than hers.   I hope, if she should happen to read this, she will begin to move toward a less violent metaphor.

    Number 137? Why 137? What is the significance of 137?

    Peter LaBarbera of Americans for Truth About Homosexuality has posted an alleged email from a non-supporter of his movement.  While he calls it homosexual-hate, I ask where is your proof a homo sent this?   What is the significance of the number 137?

    While I don’t support any type of violence whether it be physical, spiritual or speech, I often wonder if these anti-gay folks don’t just make this stuff up.

    Real or Prank? Life Coach Can Change Sexuality?

    I stumbled onto this video via G.A.Y and then on to the guys website. I will give you the full unbelievable details of this man’s so called “life coaching” after the clip.

    The Workout is a Life Coaching service for men with unwanted same sex attractions. The tag line says that “It takes work to grow OUT of homosexuality.” The blog was started with one post in October 2006, but this video was just added to youtube, 2 days ago. On the first page of the site he claims in no certain terms to “change people from homosexuality to heterosexuality” and right there I am suspicious. Even the most vocal groups like Exodus International stay away from such claims. The most recent research, which little has really been done, shows that only small percentages of people see small percentages of change in their sexuality from Reparative therapies.

    Did I mention he is charging $65.00 an hour for this life coaching service?

    I am a bit shocked that any credible clinician is trying to connect sexual orientation to gender identity. Science has already broken the link between these two things. Our gender identity and sexual orientation are not linked. Why this man is trying life coach someone into masculinity thinking it will bring about a change in sexual orientation is baffling. Since I have already explained this myth of gender affirmation in clinical therapy, I am not going to go through all of it. (The long and short is that boys, who were accidentally castrated as children, were raised as girls wearing dresses, still grew up to be heterosexual men.)

    There is also plenty of information on gender affirmation and intersex persons who were born with both male and female genitalia . Science has shown that the sexual orientation of an intersexed person may not coincide with the dominate gender of that individual. While someone may have the stronger appearance of female traits, their sexual orientation may have been toward females. The vice versa may also be true.

    At first, I laughed when I saw this infomercial of a clip. I wondered if this guy was serious or if this was some prank. A trip over to Dave Pickup’s website (yes, his name appears to be Pickup) and I am still suspicious. Either this man is seriously dangerous to anyone who would hire him or this is in fact, just a prank. He claims that with “life coaching” he can better help people reach masculinity. It is almost as if he is saying he is man enough to make you straight. I am shocked by such claims. For starters, he claims to hold a masters degree in psychology and is working towards his PhD. That is not necessarily an indication of the validity of this new business.

    Some of the claims and quotes from the website are scary and way behind the times as far as research and sexuality go.

    Pickup writes on his site:
    “If gay identity is natural within humanity, then we have an obligation to get rid of what would be a bigoted mindset and work to incorporate gay men and women into the fabric of our lives.”

    The fact is that most scientists agree that sexual orientation is at least in some way biological, if not genetic. Most scientists believe it is a combination of biological factors and environmental factors. That would make it “natural” wouldn’t it?

    A recent study of the DNA of 1000 gay brothers is already showing promise that homosexuality is in fact biological based.

    Dr. Alan Sanders of Evanston Northwestern Healthcare Research Institute, the lead researcher of the new study, said he suspects there isn’t one so-called “gay gene.”

    It is more likely there are several genes that interact with nongenetic factors, including psychological and social influences, to determine sexual orientation, said Sanders, a psychiatrist.

    “Confusing the confused” would be my way to describe Dave Pickup’s website. He starts off with this pro-gay writing entitled “What the Christian world isn’t telling you” about how gay people should be treated with dignity and honor if homosexuality is inborn and natural. That article leads into another page on the site that addresses “What the Gay World Isn’t telling you” then goes into a therapy sales pitch saying that, “If gay male identity is not inborn, not natural, but is a compensation for the unmet inborn needs of manhood, then these men and the people who support gay ideals are headed down a dangerous path.” The bizarre part is this idea that each person gets to decide for themselves if they were born gay or not. Talk about abandoning science and reason for faith, that takes the cake.

    He writes: So what is the truth then? Who decides? YOU DO…

    The idea that a person gets to decide for themselves if they were born gay or not is misleading. Of course a person who doesn’t want to be gay is going to tell you that their homosexuality is not inborn. They want it to change and to believe it is inborn means it can’t change. The question of born or not born gay should be answered by Scientists with data and facts, not persons suffering from guilt, low self-esteem and sexual confusion. A “life coach” who would leave such life changing decisions up to someone in such compromising positions is not looking out for the best interest of his clients but instead looking to line his pockets with cash.

    The most frightening thing I saw on this man’s website is his “survey” which for the sake of my readers and this article, I am going to take here on my site: (my answers are in blue)

    1. Do you get a “buzz” inside you that makes you suspect your homosexual feelings weren’t an inborn trait? Answer: Nope and what do you mean by buzz?
    2. Do feel a feeling of being “neutral” or “not man enough” or kind of “feminine” in your emotions or actions? Answer: Nope, all man here!
    3. Do you feel an aching need for unconditional love, a desire to be truly “one of the guys,” or the need for physical affection? Answer: Your kidding right? I am concerned a “life coach” out to help you would ask this.
    4. Do you believe God directs and creates the traits of masculinity, and that He intended you to experience your full manhood? Answer: Nope, I don’t believe in god at all. But this question made me laugh till I cried. Trust me, I have experienced all of my “manhood” We will leave it at that!
    5. While growing up, did you experience being kidded incessantly or constantly put-down by other boys for being “weak”? Answer: YES! I was brutally picked on as a kid. I went through much therapy, but science has already shown that teasing and bullying are more likely a result of sexual orientation not the cause.
    6. Are you afraid that other guys won’t think you are a real man? Answer: A real man? I don’t even know how to answer this question other than no Life coach or therapist should be working off the notion that it matters what “the other guy’s think of my manhood.
    7. Did you pretty much always feel detached from your Dad or cut off from him through his emotional distance or his over-bearing nature? Answer: Nope, I have always been connected and attached to my dad. Please see pic and story here
    8. Have you had homosexual experiences in your life and then felt there was still something missing? Answer: Yes, I did and I discovered what was missing, love. Then I found a great guy and we have been having a great relationship and nothing is missing for me. I am very happy. We celebrate eight years next month.
    9. Have you been in the gay lifestyle but come to find that this lifestyle is ultimately unfulfilling, futile or feels dysfuntional? (sp?) Answer: Gay lifestyle? Exactly what does this mean? Oh you mean that crap Peter LaBarbera, Stacy Harp and Stephen Bennett try to sell you as every gay man’s lifestyle? Nope, that picture doesn’t look anything like my life or any gay person I have ever met. I am also leary of a man with a psych major who cannot spell the word, dysfunctional.
    10. Are you easily discouraged? Answer: If you were to ask my friends if I am easily discouraged, they would laugh you out of the room.
    11. Are you willing to take appropriate risks, and get rid of the roadblocks in order to change your feelings and actions? Answer: Since he is asking this about my sexuality, I have no answer. I don’t want to change my feelings or actions. I am very happy the way I am. I believe others can be happy and healthy being gay as well. My advice, treat yourself the way you want others to treat you and they will for bad or good.
    12. Are you willing to take responsibility for yourself, for your faith, for your growth, and reach out for what you need no matter what it takes? Answer: This is getting to scare me. Does he really ask people this? It sounds like the tactics used by high pressure sales people to buy a car with no tires. I can almost picture him badgering people with this line and the contract to sign with him. Very drill Sargent like….scare em straight?
    13. Are you ready to accept the rewards of being your own man and feeling your own masculinity? Answer: Are you kidding? This is silly. There are no rewards or punishments for being a man. If you teach people there are, you are misleading them into some serious misinformation (sexist at that.) Being a man is no more rewarding them being a women, which reminds me, why doesn’t this guy coach women?
    14. Are you tired of being ashamed of your feelings (even if they are homosexual feelings), and want to be more at peace with exactly who you are at any given moment? Answer: Nope! I have no shame. I am not proud of me but I am not ashamed. I am just me and happy about that. I value other same sex attracted people being taught the same thing.
    15. Are you at your wit’s end or do you feel nothing is working in terms of your sexuality? Answer: If you are asking people this you really should sell used cars.

    This survey is just a sample of how anti-science, uninformed and scary this man’s thinking is. He is preying on people with a strong desire to “not be gay” and low self-esteem. I fear for anyone who would be coached by this man.

    Ask Peterson Toscano about changing sexual orientation. Peterson spent tens of thousands of dollars with some of the top reparative therapist and still never changed even a little of his sexuality. How about Christine Bakke who also spent years trying to change her sexuality with no changes. Check in with Truth Wins Out or Beyond Ex-Gay to learn more about the dangers and harms of ex-gay therapy.

    Previous posts on similar issues:

    The Myth of Gender Affirmation
    Breaking Myths: The Uninvolved Father Makes Children Gay

    World Net Daily Preys on the Faithful

    wnd-2.JPGAlong with some of the nutty news I see on World Net Daily, I also can’t help but notice the wealth of advertisements on the site for psuedo-scientific remedies for everything from weight loss to plaque build up in artieries.    They also have numerous “get rich quick” plans advertised, most of which can be assumed to be questionable as all “get rich” scams should be.  

    When I see some of these advertisments for unproven medical scams, unproven get rich scams and some of the other bizarre products I see on World Net daily, I think that the success of many of these products comes from people not questionings the claims made by the advertisers.   The one advertisement for “early to rise”, a get rich scam most likely works because the guy made 187,296 dollars by having you send him money to learn how to make money.  Of course, you don’t get any information on this unless you are willing to give them your email first.   You are then taken to a very long page that doesn’t explain the nature of this business or even a phone number.  Just lots of blah, blah, blah trying to sell you on it.   I can assure you, if this was a legit product or service, you would be given the product details right up front.  If they have to go through that much hoopla to sell you, then it is a scam.

    Much like religion, these medical and financial scams work on faith.   They say they work and since you want them to work or need them to work, you believe it.   They get psuedo doctors and fancy sounding organizations or associations to sell you on the product, but who are these people?  These products claim to clean out your artieries, rid you of toxins, fix your credit or make you rich but the proof that they work is always questionable.   Their medical experts are not from the American Medical Association but from other unknown but important sounding groups.   They say it is reccomended by a Doctor, but who is he and what are his credentials?   Is he licensed to practice medicine?   Do people think to ask these questions before believing these products work? 

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    Lets take a closer look at what happens when you click on one of the links on World Net Daily.

    The link in the picture, presented misleading as news, takes you to a site selling ”Chelation Therapy.”  Sounds promising right?  It isn’t.   While the product claims it will improve everything from a sense of smell to clogged arteries.  You can read here, how it is a scam and how in 1998, The United State Federal Trade Commission had a few problems with this product.  It is important to note

    Chelation therapy is a recognized treatment for heavy metal (such as lead) poisoning. EDTA, injected into the blood, will bind the metals and allow them to be removed from the body in the urine. Chelation therapy is not approved by the FDA to treat coronary artery disease, but some physicians and alternative medicine practitioners use it for this purpose.

    One of the side effects of “faith” is that we teach our children to take things at a surface value.   We don’t teach kids to question things like medicine, advertisements, and books.    There are all sorts of wild claims out there for products that do everything from clean toxins by putting goofy patches on your feet to curing ADHD.   We need to start teaching kids to question things.  One of the reasons religion and belief in god is so popular and widespread is because few people question the fine details and claims of religion.   When people do doubt there faith, they are encouraged to pray to god rather than follow through when the questions.  

    Was there really a talking snake?   Was the world created in 6 days?   Did Moses really part the sea?   Is the Flood in the bible even possible?  The Faithful may come against these questions, but rather than be encouraged to answer them, the faithful are encouraged to pray for the answers rather than challenge the scriptures.    When discrepencies are found in the scripture, we say that “all things are possible with god” but the facts don’t support such statements.   They sound good, but I have yet to see anyone regrow a severed limb or sound proof of many of the claims of the bible.   I truly believe if people were to question the probability of god, they would stop believing in god.    There are too many logistical and logical issues with all of the current claims about god.

    I suppose I really had two points to make in this rant of mine.  The first being that we need to start teaching people to question things, including god.   The second being my opinion that World Net Daily makes lots of money giving platform to those with scams to sell, even going as far as to call them, “medical break thoughs” when they are medical frauds.    In other words, WND is making a whole lot of money taking advantage of people’s BLIND FAITH.

    Anti-Gay Activist Stacy Harp, The Phone Call and Other Things

    Kevin Kaatz, an occasional writer here at this blog and friend, has posted a phone call from anti-gay advocate, Stacy Harp to yours truly from about a year and a 1/2 ago. It was definitely before I learned about Nonviolent Communication (Marshal Rosenberg, PhD) and before I was trained as a mediator which has given me some stronger communication skills. The call is offensive and contains some strong and graphic language (most of it not from me and my normal truck driver mouth.) You can listen to the call at Kevin’s Space.

    Stacy Harp is a charismatic anti-gay, anti-evolution and very conservative Christian who truly believes that being gay is sick and disgusting. While she claims in this post that she is not a former lesbian or ex-gay, in an email to me dated March 5, 2006 Stacy wrote, “… I understand the struggle with homosexuality personally because for years I had those intense feelings for women. However, as a Christian I knew it was wrong, and so I entered therapy and during my time in therapy I came to understand why I felt that way.” She continued on about the reason she believes she had those feelings listing some personal experiences that lead her to that path. I am confused about what is the truth from Stacy and if she is not a former lesbian, why did she claim she was? I would value some clarity about this.

    I have been following Stacy Harp’s online antics for almost 2 years. I have tried my best to address each issue concerning her with the up most respect and hope I have done so successfully. I do have to admit her anti-gay rhetoric and her desire for attention through multiple websites, an online radio show called “The Right View” and now BLOGtv scare me. I value a world where people are safe and I fear for the safety of gays and lesbians in a world where radio, tv and the web have a constant barrage of negative and untrue messages picturing us as enemies that need to be defeated in a cultural war.

    She is the president of a business venture called Active Christian Media which appears to mostly review books. With all of these platforms, Stacy has presented a constant barrage of negative and often inaccurate pictures of gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender people. Her messages about gays and lesbians crosses the line from religious opposition to hate speech by the constant negativity and call to arms themes contained in the messages.

    She has said several times, as with many anti-gay Christians, that she is being attacked for her beliefs in god. Many anti-gay Christians will make the claim, Stacy included, that they are being attacked or “vilified” for preaching the gospel. That is a false claim. No one is attacking them, no one is trying to silence their beliefs in god, but I and others like me are very concerned about the misinformation Stacy is spreading about GLBT folks. As you will see in her claims about homosexuality, few of her comments about homosexuality are a “Gospel” message. Most of her claims are science and bad science at that. (I am sure it won’t belong before this post is considered an attack, but I feel comfortable that I have tried to remain objective here and only present the facts and respectful commentary)

    This is the same Stacy Harp who hosted the radio show where the guest claimed that the new trend for gays in Chicago was to have “sex with infants”. While Stacy did apologize for that radio show, she has continued to spread her anti-gay message beyond it. For the most part Stacy has been a bulletin board for other anti-gay groups by reposting on her site their anti-gay press releases and promoting their shows. She tends to lend her support to those fallen like Larry Craig, Sally Kern, Ted Haggert saying the gays are always wrong. I personal feel uneasy and concerned that anyone supports a message like Sally Kern’s, who claims gays are a bigger threat to America than Cancer or terrorism.

    She often refers to gays and lesbians as “sodomites” and “militant homosexuals” but then claims she is being vilified should anyone call her out on how offensive those things are. It is my wish that Stacy just stick to other subjects or keep her opposition to homosexuality within the limits of the bible messages about homosexuality. Keep the false science, mean-spirited names and negative images out of the conversation for they do no one any good.

    As for the phone call posted at Kevin’s site, I wanted to post a few random bullets about it:

    1) I do in fact advocate teaching kids young about diversity, with the horrors I see on Tv, I would like kids to get along from the get go without stereotypes and false images of GLBT folks.

    2) I did hear Stacy ask in the beginning that she was recording the call “for her protection”. I am not sure what she felt she needed protection from or what she was afraid of, but I did consent to the call. I know some think I was recorded without consent, that is simply not true.

    2) I do wish I had not tried to defend myself or my beliefs. I should have just hung up or empathized with Stacy’s feelings of disgust and her need to be heard. You can hear me say in the beginning of the call “but that’s not true” and if I have learned anything from NVC, it is “never to throw your ‘but’ into the face of an angry person. I used the word “but” way too many times in this conversation. I am working on removing the phrase, “but I” from my vocabulary. I am also working on responding to difficult messages with empathy rather than a need to correct information. You can always correct it later, first just listen. I wonder how this call would have went if I had used the process of Nonviolent Communication as taught by Marshall Rosenberg.

    3) It truly is no ones business what my partner and I do in bed, but there is so much more to a relationship then sex. If a relationship is based on sex, it isn’t going to last long and my partner and I will celebrate 8 years together next month. The fight for equality isn’t about sex, it is about safety, equality in health care, insurance, medical issues and adoption issues. These don’t happen in the bedroom, they happen in our courts, doctor’s offices, schools and hospitals. They happen on our streets where many a person both gay and straight has been slain or beaten for being perceived as gay.

    4) I truly believe in the bottom of my heart that all people are basically well-meaning and have the best intentions. I feel confident that people try to do the right thing, the moral thing that meets their needs even if they cause harm in the process. What I do hope is that when people see harm or cause it, that they stop it.

    5) I would have a deep appreciation that anyone who responds or writes about this phone call do so respectfully. There is no need to call Stacy names or be mean-spirited. I don’t want to be a person that calls others mean-spirited names. I can’t make others want to be that person, but if you can think of no other reason to be respectful, please do it to meet my need of nonviolence in the world. There is far too much spiritual, mental, and physical violence in the world. Calling people names will not win your argument.

    Twisting My Words

    Yesterday, I wrote this post on American Idol’s use of a Christian Hymn.

    Today, A Christian Blogger wrote this response, but I am puzzled as it addesses things, I never said.  It also claims I “don’t quite get” things I never talked about in the first place.  My original article never mentions secular vs. religious charities.   

     It also makes the claim that the majority of charity in the world is from Christians.   I felt sad that anyone would feel the need to write that down.   Is charity a pissing contest to see who gives more, who does the most?

    American Idol Goes Christian

    I was disappointed that the producers of American Idol chose to end their “Idol Gives Back” television show with a Christian Hymn. While the song was beautiful and performed with such passion and grace, I felt uncomfortable with the message it sends about America. I guess I was also frustrated that people don’t make the connection between such extreme poverty and suffering and these beliefs in god. All the suffering of folks all over the world with HIV/AIDS, Malaria, and extreme poverty were just disturbing, but to end the night after all the photos, video and stories of that suffering with a song praising god seemed bizarre for me.

    The hymn, “Shout out to the Lord” was a Christian song. It specifically praises Jesus as god. The lyrics are:

    My Jesus, My Savior
    Lord there is none like You
    All of my days, I want to praise
    The wonders of Your mighty love
    My Comfort, My Shelter
    Tower of refuge and strength
    Let every breath, all that I am
    Never cease to worship You

    What this says to people is that you have to be a Christian to win at Idol or at least be willing to pretend to be a Christian to win. What if a Muslim or a Jew was on Idol? Can we have an Idol who subscribes to other beliefs?

    I was also incredibly moved by the overall of the show. For those of you who read this site often, you will know I am a bit sensitive. I can’t believe the poverty, injustice and hate in the world. I struggle with these issue and I have since I was very young. As a teen, my folk singing, born again Christian neighbor, Lois always told me I was born in the wrong era since I was a born “hippy” with my peace and love attitudes. At now, close to 40 years old, I continue to struggle with these social injustices more and more. To add to the mix of just how horrible I think these things are, there are actually people who believe there is a god who is all knowing, all powerful and who is allowing this suffering in the name of free will. To top that, not all of these people believe that god is the same. (head now spinning)

    It sometimes becomes just mind numbing to me that so many people wrap themselves up a belief in the “lord” not realizing that an all knowing being would have known before your creation that you would suffer during your creation, but he still chose to create you. Such a being would be sick and cruel, not loving. Whether you call him Jesus, God, Yahweh, Allah, Ganesh or Fred makes no difference. To claim god knows it all, but created a being fulling knowing it is born to suffer is cruel and sick.

    On a lighter note:  I was thrilled to see Carrie Underwood do this George Michael song, “Praying for Time.”

    Oklahoma Editor Blasts Sally Kern Supporters

    Watch Video Here

    In a video posted on Friday, Ed Kelley, the editor of The Oklahoman newspaper, blasted Sally Kern, her supporters, last week’s “Sally Rally”, and her message.

    H/T: Towleroad

    The Human Cost of Hate Speech: Clive Richards

    clivecliveFolks like Stacy and Randall Harp, Representative Sally Kern, Peter LaBarbera, Matt Barber and Stephen Bennett don’t see the damage caused by the constant negative images and messages they transmit to the public about gays and lesbians.  I think it is hard for them to even believe what they are doing it hurting anyone or dangerous because they believe it is grounded in “God’s Work.”   I must admit, I struggle with how to get the message across to them that their message is hurting more people than it helps.   Many of these folks I have mentioned truly believe in their hearts that “warning” people of the horrors of the “gay agenda” and “gay” anything is compassionate and loving.  Whle the intentions may be in the right place, the end result is not.

    What folks, like I have mentioned above, fail to see is the cost of their barrage of negative images is human life.  The constant message from these folks is dark and destructive.   Can you imagine hearing this message and applying to yourself?

    Imagine if you woke up each day, knowing your were gay and hearing messages that said you were not natural, deviant, after the children, a threat to the nation, diseased, perverted, more of a threat than terrorism.  How would you feel?  How would you feel about yourself?

    These negative messages have consequences.   

    Meet Clive Richards, a man who was gay and so ashamed of being gay he lived in the shadows rather than be out.   Like many closeted gay men, he would engage in sexual behaviors in the shadows rather than come out and live in the open with a partner.   Clive was arrested for these behaviors.   In his fear of being outed as one of those nasty homosexuals of whom he had heard so many negative things, Clive chose to kill himself rather than be outed.

    Clive was an involved citizen, teacher and sang in a local choral group.   He had friends, family and admirers who loved him.   His internal picture of gays and lesbians was so negative, he would rather be dead than have it be known he was gay.   On the day before his trial, Clive committed suicide.

    Where do you think he got those negative images of being gay?

    Why do you think he would be so afraid to be known as gay?

    Now, if we could get anti-gay advocates to change the way they present their messages.    If we could get them trained in Nonviolent Communication (Marshall Rosenberg, PhD) or some other method of communication, would this whole debate be different?  Could we save some lives?

    Christian Response to the GLBT Youth: Day of Silence?

    Ex-gay Watch has pointed me to this article and effort by Dr. Warren Throckmorton that is suppose to be the “evangelical Christian Response” to the Day of Silence.   Day of Silence is a day where GLBT youth and their supporters vow not to speak for a day in protest of the violence and bullying gay youth experience on high school campuses.   Throckmorton is proposing a “Golden Rule” as the Christian response.

    Youth who participate in the Day of Silence campaign pass out small cards explaining why they are not speaking.   Throckmorton is proposing that Christian youth respond by giving a card back.  Dr. Throckmorton writes on his blog:

    For those Christian students who attend school on that day, we propose a different option. We believe the teaching of Christ in the Golden Rule should guide our actions and attitudes regarding all. We also believe that we should make school a safe place for all students.

    Thus, we advocate students spread a message like this on the Day of Silence:

    I pledge to treat others the way I want to be treated.

    Will you join me in this pledge?

    “Do to others as you would have them do to you.” (Luke 6:31).

    Because the Day of Silence participants will be passing out cards describing why they are silent and what the Day means to them, we advocate exchanging a card or paper in return. Write or type the Golden Rule pledge on pieces of paper or an index card and pass it out at your school if the Day of Silence is being observed.

    This “christian response” event in itself, is a contradiction to the Golden Rule.   Think about it, if you were having an event, would you want another group to “overshadow” or “compete” with your event.    The idea of protesting the protest to deliberately take away from the message is not in line with the Golden Rule.    The why are Christians doing it?   

    Why do Christians need a “response” to this event?   

    Christians can’t let any gay event go by without having the response to it.   Yet if you stand up to them, they will scream that you are trying to silence them.  Are they not trying to silence the message of the Day of Silence by having their own counter “response” event?

    Throckmorton should stop this lunacy and stop trying to take attention away from the GLBT youth and their event.   He wouldn’t want someone fudging his event, so why is he doing it to others?

    Anatomy of Hate Speech: Randall Harp Edition

    I wasn’t going to address this article written by the husband of anti-gay Christian writer, Stacy Harp. I thought it mostly contains the same ole same old claims that have been refuted a dozen times over. He starts off with the explanation of the Sally Kern issue and tries his best to spin the logic. I don’t think he managed to make his case but that is because his case can’t be made. Sally Kern advocates violence whether intended or not and no matter how you spin it.

    The major premise that Mr. Harp is trying to make is that the Gay Agenda is somehow separate from gays and lesbians as a class of people. Randall claims that the gay agenda isn’t the people as a class, but the strategy they are using to gain acceptance of their lives. He uses the gun lobby as an example. I call this idea short sighted and blind.

    Randall writes:

    In reality, “the homosexual agenda” does not mean gays and lesbians everywhere anymore than “the gun lobby” is synonymous with everyone who owns a firear