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Email: “You wouldn’t address someone like that in real life”

In between the spam emails from Senator Steve Fielding and Imago Dei, I’ve got a piece of correspondence criticising that portion of my post about judging tack, wherein I criticise Nobel laureate William Phillips for making generalised, baseless, unsourced and highly contentious accusations about atheists causing a growth in incivility. In accordance with the general policy I have on mentioning names and quoting private correspondence when said correspondence isn’t discernibly mendacious, I won’t mention the name of the correspondent and will only quote the relevant portion that I respond to. They can comment on this post under a nom de plume if they wish, and I won’t “out” them.

Speaking of my treatment of Phillips, Anonymous writes…

“You wouldn’t address someone like that in real life.”

(The rest of this post, where I repeatedly drop the f-bomb, can be found over the fold).

This, or something like it, is common wisdom. Perhaps Anonymous meant “You wouldn’t address him like that in real life over this.” I think a little more specificity is part and parcel of the conventional wisdom, and certainly I would approach William Phillips in person over this matter differently than I would say, someone taking a crap on my front lawn.

Perhaps I’m being trolled, but it’s hard to tell what exactly Anonymous thinks is my inappropriate approach toward William Phillips. Anonymous doesn’t quote anything I’ve actually said in my post, just casually refers to the general tone.

It’s all very vague. Is Anonymous just repeating the above phrase because it sounds like something one of those people criticising the New Atheists, or those criticising the “dicks” (if you’ve been following that debate in the skeptic community), would say? Repeating a piece of wisdom like a magic platitude that wins you arguments by fiat? I don’t know. Anonymous does mention atheists, and “the scene”, but I can’t divine much from that.

I will say this though, if Anonymous genuinely believes that I wouldn’t say what I wrote to William Phillips face, then they’re mistaken. I’m quite willing to say even more to Phillips’ face, only I don’t have the chance and going on at that length, with nothing extra to gain seems a bit futile.

The wisdom being cited in this criticism goes that the Internet is one of those instant gratification means of communication, where you can send an email, or hit publish without thinking things over. Without letting things cool off to the next morning. Indeed, the post Anonymous criticises was written in much those circumstances – publish the night before, then wait a while (I think it was a couple of days) then hit “publish”. The result was an embarrassing, repeated malapropism that managed to escape my weary eyes at 3am.

But even if I don’t stand by my typographical vices, I still stand by my treatment of Phillips. I think I was quite fair.

I think I can say in all seriousness, that at least in as far as fairness is concerned (but not prose – I don’t always speak like I write), I’d be happy to talk to people the way I write on this blog. Indeed, I think it rather easy.

I can recall from my youth, and I give this to you as an example of me fairly and proportionately addressing someone for which I feel no remorse, on one of the occasions that I had someone pull a knife on me, I said something to the effect of “oh, you’re fucking using that ’cause you can’t fucking do it with your fucking hands, you fucking coward”. I’m pretty sure I’ve said words to this effect more than once in situations like these, and I’m not apologetic for any of it.

Now, wouldn’t I use such strong language with William Phillips? Well, no, not exactly. I wouldn’t call him a “fucking coward”, either to his face or online. This is simply because I think it would be disproportionate and honestly, I don’t feel the urge to refer to Phillips like that specifically.

But if you asked me if William Phillips was a coward for not naming names on the matter of objections to the appointment of Francis Collins to the NIH, then yes, I would say that in this case he was being a coward. I have no problem saying this online. Also, given the chance, and I say this after some reflection, on this matter I would be quite happy to call him a coward to his face. Or perhaps “yellow” as in “yellow journalism”, not that he’s a journo. And dishonest for not providing his audience with the source material to assess the truth of his claim; the articles by Sam Harris and Steven Pinker particularly.

Of course, confirmation bias being what it is, that’d be an example of Atheists Being Unciviltm. I’m probably too barbaric in appearance to get into one of these Templeton gigs anyway, so it’s all hypothetical.

Hope that answers Anonymous’ objections.

~ Bruce


The abrupt finish

Have you had one of those long arguments, where someone’s really pushing a grudge they’re holding (not necessarily against you), pulling out strawman after strawman, failing to give sources and so on and so forth, but…

…then eventually after making you do the hard yards to prove the innocence of the object of their contempt, or at least prove that there isn’t any evidence (which they could have worked out themselves with a little homework), they grant that okay, yes, they don’t have any evidence – and then that’s it?

Now that you’ve proven your point, at least until they work themselves up again, the discussion is over. “Yes, yes, you were right on these points, goodnight.”

I’m not talking about petty nothings either. Who should have won The World Cup. Who’d win out of Spiderman and Superman.

No, I’m talking about things that matter. Arguments over matters that have, or arguments that themselves have, consequences for social or political inclusion. The kind of arguments where the consequences of baseless grudges and accusations can really matter. Especially if they catch on.

Someone ventures such a baseless accusation and you call them on it.

Suddenly, they casually switch off a discussion where you’ve been pretty damn patient, all things considered. You’ve dealt with their core accusation and weathered the manifold, auxiliary, ad hoc accusations. You’ve managed to point out that in all of it, they haven’t produced a single shred of evidence – just bare assertion and misrepresentation.

Then, when you’ve worked so hard at it, they get to decide that the trial ends then and there, making token concessions but not really ceding anything, and being able to make the same accusations tomorrow, with the same lack of evidence, and the same lack of consequence, as if your argument never happened.

***

Perhaps you’ve been the target of one of the ad hoc accusations that make up the manifold of diversionary tactics.

Them: “X is just taking advantage of a cult of personality!”

You: “What cult of personality? And one accusation at a time, thanks, we haven’t finished with your first one!”

Them: “You’re defending X, and you ask what cult of personality? You’re just a fan!”

Perhaps you’re just a fan of fair-mindedness. You may not even remotely like the person(s) your interlocutor is attacking, but all the same you’ve been attacked you in order to divert attention away from the validity of your criticisms.

So often you wind up with these artless dodgers, these mongers of rotten red herrings, deciding the terms and conditions of the discussion. How come?

It seems odd that these people can slip out of a tight spot so easily, to be so at ease, to have such a wide margin of error, to even get nothing right about a serious argument they themselves started out of caprice, and still come out squeaky clean. To come out with the greater share of the in-group benefits. More social inclusion. More power.

Because lets face it, if they weren’t privileged somehow, they’d never get away with it. They’d be cut down the way you’d be cut down for getting it only half as wrong.

Which brings us to you. You’re left waiting for the next round of the same old same old. For them to make the prejudicial accusation. Again

You’re just left with a lull, why they go off to bed to sleep without a worry. Received wisdom is on their side. It’s going to be obvious if you make a mistake and maybe this keeps you up at night.

Even when you don’t make a mistake, they can make one for you. Twist a word. Add an inference. Read connotations that wouldn’t be read into what you say by anyone who paid attention to the context. Lop off a qualifying remark. Take hearsay for granted and assume that it represents your view on the world, because everyone knows people like you think like that.

And even if they’re called on it and even if it’s shown how you’ve been misrepresented, there are no consequences. At least not for anyone other than you. Any such public hearing can easily be brought to an abrupt finish, especially given that your interlocutors probably aren’t entirely aware that they’re doing it. They don’t think about it because they don’t have to.

Such privilege.

This makes participation in public discussion difficult for you and perhaps you wonder why it’s this way. Why it is that you can make reasonable requests for fairness and honesty, and be viewed as a monster, while others can play hard and fast with the truth and be seen at least as non-controversial?

Your interlocutor sleeps well, because there aren’t any consequences to keep you up at night when objections can be turned off like a light. They can walk through the next day, well rested and without a care until they feel the urge to carelessly act up again.

The cycle repeats. Accusation. No evidence. Ad hoc generation of spurious charges. Dismissal. Goodnight. The abrupt finish.

***

Breaking the cycle is tricky. At what point?

Do you walk away prior to your dismissal? No. If your interlocutor is so bloody minded that they can accuse without evidence, impugn your judgement in ways not subject to evidence, how do you think they’ll receive your retreat? How do you think the like-minded will interpret your withdrawal? Going back to your “cult”? Going back to “your people”? Hiding from criticism?

Voluntary social exclusion will only perpetuate social exclusion.

Perhaps if you don’t challenge them. Perhaps if you nod your head and say “yes, yes” and cosy up to this privileged crowd, they won’t see you as a threat and then they’ll take on board what you have to say… When you decide to say it… Or not, because you’ve decided not to upset them, and you wouldn’t want to be chucked out in the cold.

I’m sorry, but I have to say this don’t rock the boat approach seems to have a flaw in it. You get close to them to say what you want, but you don’t say what you want because then you won’t be close enough to say it. And in the meantime you enjoy the canapés.

And besides the obvious self-defeating strategy, it’s next to impossible to distinguish from just crawling up people’s arse to enjoy the fringe benefits. You may find your brothers and sisters don’t take to your plan with the utmost enthusiasm. Put down that canapé, there’s work to do.

Refusing the dismissal? Perhaps this is the angle you want. At the very least it seems to lack fatal flaws like the above two approaches. Perhaps it depends on how you take the metaphor. Do you want to be arguing in to the small hours of the morning, metaphorically or literally?

Keeping in mind that we’re talking about matters that matter, and entrenched privilege, mere late-night Internet argument (or discourse about as productive) probably isn’t what you should have in mind.

I think the only solution left is this…

They can bring an abrupt finish with a goodnight, but you can bring an abrupt new beginning with a timely good morning.

Which is to say, prepare your case and in your own time, go on the attack.

Don’t simply respond to their allegations. If you’ve been doing that ad nauseam, and doing it to the best of your ability in good faith, there are three things you need to recognise:

  • More of the same is just more of the same and if your good faith isn’t good enough for them, more of the same is what you’re going to get.
  • If you’ve been arguing in good faith, ad nauseam, you have a track record. You have evidence.
  • If you continue arguing ad nauseam, and you don’t change tack, at some point you’ll test the patience of your allies just that bit too far. Then it’s game over.

This isn’t a case of attacking your interlocutor to defend the argument of X. That’s a separate issue.

This is a case of attacking your interlocutor, because through their ample track record of bad faith, they’ve made themselves a legitimate target of criticism.

Put another way, it’s not that your interlocutor is prejudiced towards X, therefore X is all rainbows and twee; it’s that your interlocutor has acted this, and this, and this way toward X, therefore your interlocutor is prejudiced.

If your interlocutor is anyone of note, with noteworthy privilege and opinion that carries weight, they’re worth going after.

If this sounds too aggressive, and you’d like to engage in diplomacy, please consider… That bit about the ad nauseam – that’s diplomacy. If it’s gone this far, diplomacy has failed and you’ve given it your best shot. If it’s gone this far, you’ve got a track record to demonstrate your attempts at diplomacy.

You can point to this track record when people criticise your apparent aggression.

Yes, an aggressive approach can polarise. There are risks. But there are risks of inaction as well.

Yes, people will talk of “growing incivility” as if no precedent for incivility had already been set by their own privileged in-group. Since when has this ever not been the case when the member of an out-group speaks out?

You need to remember that the people making these kinds of accusations are usually in a position not to have to give them much thought. That’s part and parcel of being a privileged in-group. Take these accusations as seriously as the thought and evidence provided to support them.

***

The aggressive approach may mean complaining to radio stations. It may mean writing in to television stations, or firing off emails to the editors of online media. It may mean organising petitions, or filing complains with ACMA or the media regulatory bodies in your jurisdiction. It may mean making a formal complaint against University staff (not because they are offensive per se, but because of the poor and prejudiced quality of their argument and the consequences thereof).

This isn’t to say that you advocate for censorship, but it doesn’t mean that your tolerance of free speech needs to result in free kick after free kick either. Nor should the aggressive approach lead one to launch vexatious or frivolous complains; again, if you’ve gone this far being fair and patient…

If you’ve gone this far, and been so fair and so patient, it’s time for you and yours to stop being put on trial. It’s time bring the cycle to an abrupt finish with an abrupt new beginning.

~ Bruce


Voted…

Okay. I’ve voted and I’ve voted for The Greens.

I hope for an ALP government with the balance of power going to The Greens in the senate; to take the edge off of some of the ALP’s dodgier policies.

I’m glad to have voted Family First last, for what it’s worth. I hope that despite all the money Bob “Workchoices doesn’t go far enough” Day sunk into his Family First senate campaign, it goes the same way as his bid for the seat of Makin last election – nowhere.

I’d have liked to have had the time to blog about my reasons why I’m voting that way I am, but things didn’t work out that way.

Now it’s just a matter of sitting back and seeing how the count goes. I’d cross my fingers if I were superstitious.

~ Bruce


Tack not entirely decided upon…

mirror You’ve started a book and you think you’ve got your tack sorted, then you hit a hurdle.

It’s a decided matter that the book I’m engaging in won’t specialise in recriminations. Not that I’ve got a problem with passing judgement, I’m just of the view that in order to make charges against people you have to spend a good amount of time entertaining the various possible explanations and weighing up the evidence. You’ve got to be fair.

This would bog the book down far too much. That and it could become boring.

Putting a number of the people I’ll be citing on the dock, wouldn’t exactly be the trial of Socrates, and I’m not referring to matters of fair trial. Think “underwhelming”.

This potential road-to-ennui could ruin the entire voyage. I’m trying to focus on the same pattern repeated, not the biography of bigots (if indeed they are bigots).

On the other hand…

Some of the examples of the misrepresentation of the godless I have down on paper, especially a number of those that have accumulated this year (e.g. media coverage of the atheist convention, Pell and Jensen’s Easter speeches and the Chris Mooney “Sockpuppetgate” affair) have been astoundingly rotten.

Even if I can see how in the case of Mooney’s credulous run-in with a sockpuppet is the product of cognitive bias, it tests one’s patience given that not all of Mooney’s opprobrium lands on its intended targets; some of it splashes off of the likes of PZ and on to us little people. As for the Australian media coverage of the atheist convention earlier this year, it is galling to see positions of privilege granted to people who don’t always seem to take due care with the truth.

If not recriminations, there’s something more than mere analysis one can rightly take from this. What tack can one take in response to this, other than cold analysis, futile rage or shameful deference? I want more than pure analysis in my prose, but I’m not going to jump up and down screaming and I’m not going to get on my knees to beg people to behave themselves.

If Pell claiming that atheists aren’t charitable doesn’t get you; if Mooney uncritically entertaining complete fabrications about “New Atheists” bullying people on and about campus doesn’t convey to you the kind of provocation I’m talking about responding to, then consider the recent AAAS conference where at a Templeton funded seminar, Nobel laureate William Phillips got up and… See for yourself.

This just takes the cake. At least Pell and Jensen don’t make much in the way of pretence to being peacemakers! At least Chris Mooney was obviously to some extent, the victim of a hoax.

While I don’t aim to recriminate, it’s hard in this instance to exonerate.

I’d really like to see a source for “deluded, ignorant fools” other than what seems at the most charitable to be the product of a kind of literary pareidolia, spawned by way of judging a book by its cover. I’d like the weasel words to give way to citation, if only so that people could get an idea of the scope of  Phillips’ accusations against “adherents of The New Atheism”; was it a few select “New Atheists”, an Internet fan-base or a screaming horde of non-church goers?

As is often the case with this particular pejorative term, Phillips describes no boundary where “The New Atheism” ends and safe godlessness beings; no demarcation. This has the dual effect of on the one hand facilitating equivocation while also allowing exaggerated speculation of some kind of New Atheist Monolith that’s come to take your rights away.

You can level any claim against “New Atheism” if you don’t define what an “adherent of The New Atheism” is, and you don’t cite anyone. Then when someone presents a specific exception, you just equivocate “oh no, I wasn’t talking about them.” But who is Phillips talking about? Phillips’ specific choice of pejorative isn’t specific enough.

If rigging the goal posts with wheels to make them easier to shift isn’t conspicuous enough, the absurdity of this approach can be elucidated with a single open question. How would you go about counting “New Atheists”?

Nothing screams “above criticism” more than an idea that shelters itself from empirical verification. The very religious concept of “The New Atheist” is a sacred cow beyond reproach and a testament to bloody-mindedness; “You’re a New Atheist only if and when we need you to be one!”

Lovers of irony should find themselves well catered to when such misinformed discussion grants itself the moral high ground.

The irony in this case is profound when you consider that Phillips sees himself as a bridge-builder between people from different perspectives. Irony squared when you realise that after his talk in response to a question from the audience, Phillips accused the (uncited) “New Atheists” of presenting “a cartoon version” of religious people!

Phillips presents the “adherents of  The New Atheism” as an undefined mass, without citation to specific details, and he wants to talk about making cartoons out of people! Ha!

Of course, the real advantage in not citing the people you smear (aside from possible litigation) is that you somewhat rob your audience of the means and inclination to check your sources. Especially when it’s a friendly audience.

This is no more obvious in Phillips’ talk than when he accused the “New Atheists” of objecting to the appointment of Francis Collins to the NIH on the grounds of Collins believing that there was a god; that the “New Atheists” believe that religious people can’t be scientists.

Phillips fails to provide a single quote, even from an unnamed “New Atheist”, to the effect that religious people can’t be scientists. Yet if he’s going to make an accusation, especially targeted in such general terms as he’s used, he should at least provide something of the sort rather than act like a cheap purveyor of idées reçues.

As for the actual “New Atheist” response to the appointment of Francis Collins… Yes, there were objections. No, they were not because Francis Collins believes in the existence of a god.

The closest you can get to this kind of objection by “New Atheists” is over Collins’ assertion that his god communicated with him through a waterfall. Literally.

Indeed, liberal theists (I have Ken Miller of Dover trial fame in mind specifically) coming to the defence of Francis Collins, even if not for their righteous wrestling with straw-men, are starting to accumulate egg on their faces as Collins’ BioLogos institute seems to have started peddling biblical literalism. Literalism of a kind that may seem to some as more at home at Answers in Genesis, than in the canon of liberal Christendom. But I digress.

There are of course other issues to take with Collins’ appointment, that the “New Atheists” have taken; amongst other matters he doesn’t understand kin-selection and the evolution of social traits, and he’s on the record as publically advocating the view that science has nothing to say about human nature; this kind of public advocacy from a guy now the head of an organisation that directs funding to research into mental illness, criminology and so on.

Collins’ personal, private beliefs (in as far as he has any – he’s quite the proselyte) are hardly the point at all.

But don’t take my word for it and don’t take Phillips’. Unlike Phillips’ audience, you’re able to get both sides of the story via a number of the “New Atheists” themselves, who I’m only too happy to name; DRM, Steven Pinker, Sam Harris, PZ Myers and Jerry Coyne. Keeping in mind that I’m not asking you to agree with them, that I’m not asking you to enjoy their prose and that yes, PZ Myers does call Francis Collins a few names, Phillips was very specific in his accusations – this is what I’m asking you to assess.

(Hint: If you want a fun, albeit risky drinking game, take a shot of liquor each time one of these authors moots the idea of a test of atheism for scientific office. You can blame Phillips if you get too drunk).

But back to the topic of my post, which is the tack I’m taking in writing about this kind of thing in my book. You can only go so far with what you can imply from Phillips’ misleading, but calmly spoken rant.

Is Phillips deliberately and malevolently spreading stereotypes about atheists? Is he mistaken? Is he coo coo for Coco Pops? Is he trying to give Templeton good value for money? Does he need his consciousness raised in regards to the way he talks about the godless?

I can’t possibly know that with what I’ve got to work with.

Even if The Templeton Foundation is funding The Witherspoon Institute to peddle prejudicial speculation about same-sex marriage (pages 26 & 27 of this PDF), it doesn’t mean that there’s an orchestrated conspiracy to smear out-groups. It could just be that statistically, Templeton types lean that way and cognitive bias obscures self-awareness of the fact, allowing such tendencies to go unchecked on occasions. This or any of a hundred and one other motivations.

There are so many possibilities to explore if I were to take this approach. Too many.

I’m not out to “get” people at any rate. Not with this book at least.

So, the “no recriminations” rule, as a necessary product of my method, stays. I’ll be drawing other conclusions I would hope no less significant.

That being said, I don’t want to be too clinical in this enterprise. I may not impugn the character of the likes of Phillips, but that doesn’t stop me impugning their ideas about godless people; their stupid ideas.

And no, smart people can make stupid mistakes, so it’s not an ad hominem to call anyone’s idea stupid. That’s a stupid idea as well. Stupid, stupid, stupid!

Okay, I may not use the word “stupid” in the book, but you get the point. This othering of atheists, aside from being poorly thought out and having potentially nasty consequences, laughably falls on its face like the Frank Spencer of religious apologetics that it is.

If godless people have to, and have had to put up with this kind of nonsense, then it’s only fair that a certain entitlement to enjoy the silver lining exists; that silver lining being comedic value. I’m not going to apologise for kindly laughing at the folly of the William Phillipses of the world.

While intending a serious work and still a bit unsure of my tack, a little bit of levity wouldn’t go astray and there’s little funnier than when the pretence of morality goes awry. It’s probably best that those finding themselves caught up this way learn to laugh at themselves and learn from their mistakes.

Flowers and some chocolate wouldn’t hurt either. Making this right isn’t down to the godless.

This is of course assuming Phillips et. al. really want a dialogue!

~ Bruce

Update: As A. Cooper points out in the comments, it’s “tack” that you take, not “tact”. Another late-night malapropism-fest! Will amend post soon.

Update: Fixed. For now…


The ritual

It seems that nobody has noticed, but I’ve been destroying old posts for a while now. It’s fun.

If this sounds a tad nihilistic, a little crazy, consider that there’s more to it. Consider that it a ritual of reflection.

I really don’t like some of my older posts.

Sometimes writing can be an act of wrangling with an elusive idea, sometimes one that will pop up again at a later date, without warning and after being left alone for years. Except sometimes the idea’s second coming doesn’t present an elusive struggle.

You don’t always notice how your take on things changes, as gradual as it may be.

So these ideas pop back up again and cue to what you wrote before; you traipse back through your past writing and sometimes you’re left thinking “was I really that bad?”

I know I don’t blog with the highest standard of editorial practice and much less in the past; blogs aren’t broadsheets. But that not withstanding, sometimes the older stuff still looks like something that as your present self, you’d have torn apart for any number of reasons.

So here’s the ritual when reading past writings…

If it’s something that’s not too offensive to my still evolving sensibilities, it stays. If it’s something potentially good that’s been held down through a lack of care, it gets marked for change or put in my draft folder for a touch-up.

If it’s a complete, stinking load of ****, it gets ceremonially deleted after apologising to myself for writing it in the first place. Strangely enough this process grants me an inner calm of a kind. Perhaps this is inappropriate.

Perhaps I should be asking myself “why did I ever put readers through this?” Perhaps I should chastise myself for writing for myself to begin with. It kind of seems that I’ve used readers from time to time.

This ritual almost feels as if I’m being ruthless with someone else. Someone else who’ll never whine that I’m smashing their cherished ideas. Smash away! I’m enjoying for reasons not entirely clear, even if you lot don’t care one dot.

I’m not entirely sure what’s happening to me as a writer, and while I’m not scared of the ambiguity there’s still the matter of curiosity. Are there any literary types out there that know what’s going on here?

This ritual of cathartic sacrifice has been building up for a while. Considering the word-count of this blog there’s been too few words and sentences sent to the yawning void.

For writers who’ve got a bit behind on the pruning I’d like to recommend the sacrifice. When something reminds you of an old piece of work, check what you wrote, and if it was rubbish, repent to yourself then burn it away.

It’s working for me.

~ Bruce


Religion: Public or private?

There’s a line that pops up now and again, that you don’t get to criticise religion if you haven’t been invited. The rather obvious matter of freedom of expression aside, it doesn’t actually sound like a terrible argument when you first consider it.

Just take Jefferson into account.

“I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others.”

(Thomas Jefferson, correspondence with Edward Dowse, 1803)

Live and let live and all that jazz.

It’s worthy to take into account, Jefferson’s assumptions of course. That what one believes in good conscience, is no harm to another and perhaps more importantly, the belief that this rule of religious privacy protected the religious from priests as well. That is, that the clergy had no right of inquiry – matters of conscience were between a man and his maker (I use the masculine to keep in perspective, not to agree).

I think it safe to say that for its time, this was a progressive and liberal take on religious rights, but it’s unjustifiable to treat Jefferson as some kind of purveyor of gospel truth. To be blunt, we can do better now – you and I.

Consider that Jefferson was a slave owner. He owned hundreds of slaves – people rendered non-persons.

One generation builds upon the one before and the US, and countries such as Australia who have looked to the US for inspiration for their civics, have come a long way. We’ve got more to work with than Jefferson and Jefferson, after all is said and done, was still a fallible man.

Make the man a prophet and at the very least you can forget about expecting people to treat you like a progressive – maybe you don’t.

We have two other, massive advantages over Jefferson; more time to accumulate data and much more advanced means to process it. Jefferson was premature when he pronounced…

“We have solved, by fair experiment, the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”

(Thomas Jefferson, correspondence with the Virginia Baptists, 1808)

Put bluntly, Jefferson, if we could communicate with him, would not be in a position to argue with us about the sociology and civics of religion. At best, he could clarify his definition of religion so that that which was not private, was not religion, hence that for example that unsolicited proselytism, and other public expressions of a similar nature, were by definition, not religion. This would of course have interesting consequences if borne out in court and I’m not sure that these consequences would be welcomed by secular liberals and religious conservatives alike.

The alternative is to take Jefferson’s assertion on face value as a statement of fact, rather than definitional truth; religion is private. To which we can safely answer, in light of the data accumulated over the past two hundred years in societies that embrace to a reasonable extent, Jeffersonian liberties, that Jefferson was wrong.

Obviously Jefferson never met Fred Phelps, or seen the way that the congregations of megachurches interact with their communities (and schools!), or seen Mel Gibson’s Jew-baiting Passion of The Christ. Moreover on the matter of causing harm to one’s fellow human beings, I’m not willing to cede my perspective, nor should you, to someone who owned slaves – this is not a recrimination just a matter of qualification.

Religion is in large, public. Jefferson was wrong. If only he weren’t, imagine how much nicer things would be.

But “live and let live” is a conditional statement – you let live on the condition you’re let live, and if you pay attention to the evidence, that’s often not the case. Often religion involves, indeed encourages interference.

This isn’t to say that Jefferson’s views on religious privacy still can’t guide us. If they fail by way of definition, or by way of matter-of-fact, then there’s still the option of an algorithmic approach. Consider a “Jeffersonian algorithm”;

IF an instance of religious belief is private THEN no right of inquiry to that belief exists.

Or perhaps better still…

IF an instance of religion belief is private AND IF it is in no way causal in harming others THEN no right of inquiry applies.

Easter addresses to the nation, the Queen’s Christmas address, all instances of proselytism and all institutional proselytism, renders the content publicised. Indeed, perhaps beyond being public domain, it should be considered public property when heads of state are involved in pushing religious culture.

Perhaps the Vatican should inquire into the workings of Creative Commons; derivatives allowed owing to precedent/past tampering of course.

When you think about it though, this is more than just intuitive. Jefferson had religious beliefs – but where from?

Surely Jefferson wouldn’t argue that he wasn’t influenced in some matter of conscience by the public discussion of a matter of faith. Could he really argue that his religious belief in no part derived from the commons? And if not Jefferson, what about everyone else?

It defies belief that religious culture could persist without the public recruitment of minds.

I’m not sure I take this as self-evident, but I take it seriously.

And I take it quite seriously when a faith can spend its time promoting itself in public, then admonish people for asking questions. “Step right up, it’s Jesus! He’ll save you from your sins and put a sparkle in your eye! Take one cracker a week with wine and it’s immortality. Just give what you can, no questions asked! And I mean, no questions.”

(Note to those who complain about atheists being too literal minded – don’t take the above example too literally, thanks).

Jefferson can’t save this kind of sales pitch, nor a history of such sales pitches on a grand scale (with the occasional burning at the stake for people who ask questions), from scrutiny. No religious proposition is beyond dissection by members of a community, or its descendants, once the proposition is used as an assumption informing community decision making.

If someone’s god wants to have its politics inform the governance I’m subjected to, then their god had better make themselves known – not as a test of faith but so that I can lodge an FoI request*!

~ Bruce

* Even if the “Jeffersonian algorithm” holds as a truism universally, this doesn’t guarantee that any given state recognises the separation of church and state. For example, the State Government of South Australia, the jurisdiction of which I live within, does not observe such a separation. But I still demand the right to inquire in public matters where I’m a stakeholder!


It seems I’ll have to make my own exceptions to Hart’s rules

On pg. 382 of my New Hart’s Rules, ‘20.10 Blasphemy, obscenity, racial hatred, and official secrets’ says…

Publishing a work which contains contemptuous, scandalous, or insulting material relating to the Christian religion is a criminal offense, punishable by a fine or imprisonment. Note that only the Christian religion is covered by this law and that merely attacking Christianity is not blasphemy: the attack would be blasphemous only if it were contemptuous or insulting.

(New Hart’s Rules, 2005)

Which is to say that any attack is at least tantamount to blasphemy, contempt or insult being as easy to conjure, and as hard to dismiss as an unfalsifiable Freudian diagnosis.

I also don’t like the fact that blasphemy is lumped in the same section as racial hatred. A smear by association – I don’t, as a blasphemer, think it fair to lump me or anyone else with the same tolerant disposition towards race, with bigots.

And at the very least, the discrimination inherent in making a special case for protecting Christianity alone demonstrates that the law isn’t interested in equality. By all means, report the law (actually abolished in the UK in 2008 – after this edition of Hart’s Rules was published), but the unnecessary value judgements are something I can do without.

Oh, and on that part of Western Christianity where you’ll find a long anti-Semitic streak, I’ve left a great big, fat, hot, steaming metaphorical turd. Of course the flies were already there before I metaphorically passed my bowels, being attracted to the scent of a thousand and one shitty Passion plays, Mel Gibson’s included.

I simply shat in what was already a latrine.

I hold the original charge of Deicide in contempt. I hold the concept of The Mark of Cain in contempt, and not just the Jew-hating interpretations.

Contempt!

~ Bruce


Interest sought

thereader Work on the book* is going slowly – as planned.

It’s mostly been research so far, clarifying and expanding up what I’ve already collected over the past few years. A couple of trial run versions of the first part, or at least the better part of it, have gone well, although I’m discarding them.

The practice runs to get into the swing of things that they are.

The “swing” I’m trying to get into is to maintain the technical content, but to write in a more literary fashion. The book isn’t a manual and I don’t want it to feel like one.

Each rehearsal of the first part has increasingly moved toward a literary feel, but without losing any technical content and I think the first part proper is ready to write – which is where I intended to be by this time of year.

Work on the book from this point onward is largely a case of “knocking them down”, the “setting them up” being mostly complete. (I say “mostly”, you never know when some idea will pop into your head over the course of a year, that will demand further inquiry).

This is where I can see the next waypoint more clearly; the first draft of the opening chapters.

Which is where I’ll want to put some of my work past a few trusted people.

In September I’ll produce a .pdf file of the first draft of the first part. I want to distribute this to a few people to get their feedback.

The kind of reviewers I’m looking for fall into any number of categories, such as…

Established. A fanciful expectation? All I mean by this is “published”. It could be a few articles written for a small Australian literary journal or the online equivalent. It could be that you’re an established blogger – by which I mean PZ Myers. Okay, now I am getting my hopes up a bit high, but you get the point.

“Community types”. Those within humanist, atheist, skeptic or progressive communities – specifically those who have been active and have a profile within the community. Say long-time regulars at the AFA forums, speakers from local-level events, organisation officials, niche podcasters and so-on.

Academics. Busy people of course.

I’ve had some correspondence with academics on matters the book will cover. Although it feels there’s something in asking them to read my manuscript along the lines of asking them to mark my work – something they usually already have more than enough of.

Any such participation would be appreciated, even if it were limited, and I wouldn’t be too put out if I didn’t get any such support at this stage. (Though it would be nice if ultimately I could get someone like Richard Holloway to have a read of the manuscript).

Long-time blogospheric dwellers. What would this blog have been without other bloggers, and regular readers? Those who’ve been long-time participants in discussion here (those at least who haven’t made the spam filter list) are sought. Those like I’ve got to know as regulars at sites like the late GrodsCorp are sought. (Now if only AV of Five Public Opinions would pop his head up again – for that matter DQ of Silently Speaking as well).

None of the standard out-groupings apply. I doesn’t particularly worry me that any given trial reader may be Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, atheist or one of the Jains. If any given Hare Krishna gets turned down, it’s because the over-arching criteria – safety – isn’t being met: either they aren’t established writers etc. or I just don’t know them well enough. A mix is preferable, but at this stage I’m keeping my material well within a safety bubble, so that comes first.

Now here’s the gist. I don’t want anyone going off and advocating on my behalf to the PZ Myers and Friendly Atheists of the Internet – yet. (Although I’m quite happy to have been Pharyngulated earlier this year).

Perhaps at some later stage (like next year), the higher profile writers can be nagged with a “hey, you’ve just got to read this manuscript, it’s awesome!”, but that’s contingent on it being received as “awesome” to begin with.

This early in the project, I’m asking those who’ve volunteered their time to see if the opening chapters “hook” them. Maintaining a steady pace without meandering, especially while outlining my methodology in sufficient detail, is likely to be the biggest hurdle in maintaining reader interest in the entire book. Seeing if people feel enticed to read on beyond that is crucial.

Breaking things down into stages also provides a polite avenue for people to opt out of further manuscript reading should other tasks arrive that they deem more deserving of their attention. I’m not entitled to expect that volunteer readers stay on for the whole project, and I don’t.

I don’t take people’s help for granted – I don’t want them to feel imposed upon.

So if you are interested (even if a bit semi-committal about it) and you want in on the reading of the first draft of the first few chapters (introduction, rationale, assumptions and methodology etc.), pop a comment below indicating your interest. I’ll get back to you via the email address that you use to submit your comment ASAP (which can take a while of late), or by other means if we already have other lines of communication.

Thanks for your consideration thus far. ;-)

~ Bruce

* “The Book” being Human in a Warped Mirror (working title) – a book about the misrepresentation of atheists. Think of it as my attempt at Orientalism for religious representations of godlessness, albeit from an evolutionary perspective.

(Picture Source: a reader from Le Livre (The Book) by Octave Uzanne, 1880).


A scenario

You’re an atheist of around retirement age. You’ve been fortunate enough to have been in a position to promote free thought, humanism, skepticism and so forth for most of your life.

And while you’ve never been in the position to actually experience on the receiving end, the impact wrought upon those atheists and other Others – those more vulnerable than you ever were – you’ve helped people. You really have.

You’ve got a good reputation, maybe even a legacy.

You have fans. Loyal fans. Tribal fans.

For most of your life, you’ve had it said that you’re a nice individual. Admittedly, not from pitchfork-wielding types, but at least from progressives. This matters to you. You’re a progressive.

This is in essence, what you see when you look back at your life. It’s what you pride yourself on because frankly, it’s all you have!

Things change.

The world around you changes.

Things become a bit more open on the scene. Either owing to the collapse of divisions between class, or creed or international borders or whatever, more players come onto the board.

New grounds emerge where you have no history. No legacy.

Many of these new players are seeing you for the first time. Many have never had the benefit of your legacy.

Many have nothing to thank you for and no track record by which to judge you as being nice. Many have no reason to even consider you at all – if they need something that you provide, they’ve long since been able to do without you providing it.

They can provide for themselves, even if cooperation may seem at first glances to be desirable.

Imagine, not that it should be hard, that you are caught in some internecine war of words with other prominent atheists. Imagine that you don’t chose your words carefully. Imagine that it’s not the tone that’s the problem – you’re nice after all – but the substance that people are questioning.

Allegedly a trimmed quote here, supposedly an out of context citation there and a string of complaints that you’re committing the bare assertion fallacy when levelling charges against your opponent.

Pish! Your atheist interlocutor is guilty of X! And all your followers, all of those grateful for your years of service to the cause, know it’s true.

Everyone knows! Don’t be silly.

Why would someone like you lead people astray? How could someone like you lead people astray?

You’re the great Mr/Mrs Nice! You wouldn’t have got the reputation if you were so unpleasant as to make spurious accusations!

But then one of these new sorts comes along. One from over the back fence in a part of the now interconnected community that you’ve never established yourself in. One of these new sorts that you don’t have a track record with.

They allege that in this spat match of yours, that one of your accusations has overshot its mark and landed square in your new neighbour’s lap. They aren’t at all happy about it.

Your accusation, overshooting its mark, has been instrumental in establishing a stereotype “over the fence”. A stereotype that allegedly smears atheists as being guilty of whatever it is you’re accusing your political opponents of.

How do you deal with this?

Do you cite your track record as the great Mr/Mrs Nice? Do you cite all the things you’ve done for the cause, albeit not in a way that has effected your new neighbour?

Do you expect them to recognise your contribution and your quality of character?

What do you do when they add you to their list of people who haven’t helped, but have caused them harm? What do you do when you’re effectively added to the list of Hagees, Robertsons and Falwells of their part of the world – all of those who’ve birthed pejorative myths about the godless?

This incident, this overshooting the mark and “over the fence” is the first interaction you’ve had with these particular atheists.

Do you expect people to fall into line, do you pretend that your behaviour isn’t in question, do you give excuses, do you give a non-apology or do you admit that you screwed up and set about fixing the damage?

Or do you just not give a shit anymore? Or did you ever give a shit in the first place? Was it all about your own little kingdom, and your own grandiose reputation all along?

So much for Mr/Mrs Nice if that’s the case!

~ Bruce


Testing Mk II

On Sean’s suggestion, I am attempting to blog using Windows Live Writer on my laptop, owing to the rather poor faring of Sun’s add-on for Open Office. I’m finding my open source bias challenged already – the user interface is preferable to blogging via other means.

The only two issues I anticipate are the licensing of the software, in the future, and how my writing will be formatted when uploaded to the blog. Will it contain awful code, causing paragraphs to be mishandled?

Time to see.

~ Bruce

Update: Oh, this is so much nicer. Thanks for the tip, Sean.


Changes

There are a few changes going on around these parts.

For one, the old, casual computer lab is being morphed into a more suitable writing environment. There is a new computer in the collection from which I am typing this now. It’s a notebook that’s dedicated to writing – no games, no encoding of media, no endless Firefox tabs!

And if all goes to plan, I’ll be able to upload this post to my blog directly from Open Office, which I find a far more suitable writing tool than the interface provided by WordPress.

So let’s see how it goes!

~ Bruce

Update: It seems that WordPress, or at least the Open Office add-on I’m using, doesn’t handle paragraphs very well!


The peril of “nice”

Another week and it’s another blog post telling skeptics/new atheists/humanists etc. to “be nice”. As if as a group, we weren’t as nice as anyone else. Naturally without supporting evidence – a Type I error for the serious skeptics out there. (Some people need to learn to love the null hypothesis a bit more).

It doesn’t matter which one specifically because there’s a truckload of each variety. If you’ve followed the accommodationist-versus-whateverist debate for any length of time, or merely seen the noise surrounding Mooney and Kirschbaum’s Unscientific America, you know what I’m talking about.

It is painful to watch and the spectacle seems perpetual.

I’ll make one of those apparently obligatory qualifiers. I’m not for example, okay with the names PZ Myers used to describe Michael Ruse. Even if I don’t like Ruse’s work one dot.

Heck, I probably shouldn’t call Geert Wilders supporters “loons”, or members of the Tea Party movement “tea baggers”. It’s considerably milder than PZ on Ruse, but all the same a vice I’ve probably got to get under control. Although at least some name calling isn’t beyond the pale – would you bristle if I called Mussolini a fascist?

This whole be nice fundamentalism has me worried.

There are seemingly two camps in the “be nice” school of thought. Those that argue that being nice is some kind of categorical imperative that we all have to follow in order to get our message across to the anti-vaccination crowd, the creationists and the like. I’ve already taken a swing at this camp before, so I’ll not labour on that too much this time around.

Then there’s the be “nice because it’s moral to be nice” crowd. Again, like it’s some kind of categorical imperative wherein nice is synonymous with moral.

To be blunt, I think this camp is incredibly dangerous. For reasons similar to that of the other camp – namely that it sets one standard for atheists/skeptics/humanists and another for our interlocutors – but also for matters of ethics.

My objection becomes clearer through the juxtaposition of two thought experiments.

Thought Experiment #1

Your neighbour, a friend who you’ve known for years and a valued, supportive, kind individual who has brought much well-being to the world, drops by for a coffee. They ask for a teaspoon of sugar and as it happens you have two jars over by the coffee mugs where they can’t see you spoon the contents into their drink. One container has sugar, while the other contains a flavourless, odorless poison that will cause your neighbour to die in excruciating agony over the next few days, with no hope of medical intervention.

The sugar is the nice option. The poison is the nasty option. Which option is the more moral?

…and…

Thought Experiment #2

You live in a dystopian society near a concentration camp that regularly puts people to death at an industrial capacity. You are a member of a secret resistance in regular contact with the totalitarian authorities. The head of the concentration camp drops in for a coffee while on his way to order a mass execution, which if it takes place on time will foil a planned mass escape that you are aware of. Your guest asks for a teaspoon of sugar and as it happens you have two jars over by the coffee mugs where they can’t see you spoon the contents into their drink. One container has sugar, while the other contain a flavourless, odorless poison that will cause the camp leader to die in excruciating agony over the next few days, but will provide the necessary delay to ensure the success of the mass escape bid (even if resulting in your own execution).

The sugar is the nice option. The poison is the nasty option. Which option is the more moral?

I could press the point further, but all I need to do is show that automatically equating nice with moral is not unproblematic. As the juxtaposition shows, it’s incredibly problematic.

It doesn’t require such extreme examples – it’s the logic of it that I’m getting at.

And for any humanist with an interest in ethics, this kind of thing should be grist for the mill. Discussing the ethics of warfare critically requires this kind of thinking. Discussing the ethics of self-defence requires this kind of thinking. Much of geopolitics requires this kind of thinking. Critical discussion of euthanasia requires this kind of thinking. And on and on and on the list goes.

Indeed, the logic of the problem remains the same even when you lower the stakes down to resemble the more mundane disputes skeptics, humanists and affirmative atheists find themselves embroiled in. I’ve only amped up the terms to test the notion the way a programmer tests their code with extreme values.

Aside from the problem of the logic of this kind of absolutist argument, you have to ask why it’s being preached in such a paternal and simplistic manner. Especially from self-avowed humanists – for any humanist who’s earned the right to lecture the rest of us, this kind of problem should be obvious. It’s not something that a considerate humanist should run rough-shod over.

Like I said, it’s painful to watch. A least if you care about these kinds of things it is.

And why? Why is this happening?

I’m reminded of Daniel Dennett’s discussion of models of the evolution of cooperation in Freedom Evolves, where an evolutionary arms race between freeloaders and cooperators takes place. A population originally made up of cooperators plays host to a new, freeloading mutant that doesn’t pay its dues. Yet the freeloader receives the full benefits of group membership – enabling it through a net increase in benefits to proliferate faster than the cooperators. Over generations this alters the make-up of the population up until there aren’t enough cooperators for the freeloaders to sponge off of.

With more complicated agents, freeloader-detection exists amongst cooperators to help prevent freeloaders’ proliferation-via-mooching, while the evolution of cooperator-mimicry by freeloaders allows them to proliferate by side-stepping detection. Better detection methods by cooperators are in turn positively selected for when they manage to detect this mimicry, which in turn positively selects for even more advanced mimicry to side-step the more advanced detection. The arms race goes on and on, with freeloaders evolving newer and better ways to pass themselves off as cooperators, while cooperators evolve ever more capable freeloader-detection measures.

There are times when the “be nice because it’s ethical” camp reminds me of cooperator-mimicry. It has the free-loader quality of less energy expenditure by cooperators – as we’ve seen above, simply treating “nice” as synonymous with “ethical” isn’t exactly an expensive contribution to a community that values the thoughtful discussion of ethics. It’s not exactly paying one’s dues. Yet the upshot of this cheap approach may be very beneficial in terms of acquiring in-group benefits, if appearances don’t deceive.

If a nice Colgate smile, simple platitudes about manners and a lack of consideration can guarantee success amongst humanists, then frankly, organised humanism may well be screwed. Or at least partially screwed.

And let’s be serious. The kind of simplistic attitude we are talking about does have meaningful consequences in the world – what’s “nice” about euthanasia or abortion?

Do you really care about this stuff?

Humanists, skeptics and assorted quasi-allied philosophical dispositions need to ratchet up their freeloader-detection, and a heuristic I’d like to nominate is the recognition of the treatment of “nice” as synonymous with “moral” or “ethical” as a freeloader warning sign. Update that into your social virus-checker database!

Letting this one pass may do the careers of those non-threatening, Hollywood-white-smile types a world of wonder, but is that really the point of the whole exercise?

~ Bruce


Grinding to a halt…

Some of you lot may have noticed that this blog has been a bit slow of late. There’s been about one post a week for a number of weeks and discussion has almost finished evaporating.

I don’t think it’s run its course quite yet, but I can see the end in sight.

It never really had much in the way of a distinct purpose; a few guiding principles and a vague motivation, but no raison d’être.

My values are changing.

I look back at some of the things I was schizotypally whimsical about and wonder what on earth I was doing. Or at least I know why I did what I did but can no longer relate to it.

I’m not diving into anal retentive sub-editorialising, at least not yet. And don’t get me wrong, I haven’t suddenly jumped on board with common sense about these things – I’m still a bit weird.

I am however enjoying word-crafting somewhat more than usual – something that may not be apparent because so much of the tinkering has been done away from cyberspace.

I have drafts of a number of posts, printed out and sitting on my coffee table. I’ve always read better from paper than from the screen, but I’ve never been inclined to make the effort. These draft posts (this post not being one of them) won’t see publication until I’ve had a better look at them.

The drafts have been piling up faster than I’ve been publishing them.

What to do?

Spontaneous, slack-edited posts will continue for a while but at an ever decreasing rate. This will grind to a halt. I’m not always going to be quite so lazy just because it’s a blog.

As my attempt to write a decent manuscript moves into full-swing, my attention will be drawn away from the general topics I normally discuss even more than over the last couple of months. It’s getting really interesting on that front actually. This does mean though that the traditional inspirations for posting also will grind to something approximating a halt and the draft pile will eventually expend itself.

My writing will focus elsewhere in accordance with my new, emerging sensibilities.

My writing will have the articulated raison d’être that this blog has always lacked.

It seems to me that my writing is parting ways with this blog and ultimately for the better. I don’t see Thinkers’ Podium lasting until the end of the year.

I’ll be testing the waters elsewhere away from the blogosphere where I hope to get more polished pieces published. So what will remain?

The leftovers? An aspiring writer’s diary (a very doable prospect)? Interesting notes from the book-in-progress (some of the correspondence I’ve been having is worthy of writing about)?

There is I think something to having a blog to compliment the more traditional outlets, and part of it is the relaxed conventions.

But whatever reason I’ll have for blogging in 2011 will be at least as far as I’m concerned, different to the chaos of the last five years (good grief, I missed my fifth blogging anniversary last week). Which means that a new blog will have to be born, while I’m prepared to let Thinkers’ Podium grind to a halt.

Let the slow process of renewal begin and the silent countdown to this blog’s death commence.

~ Bruce


“Where did that come from?”

…You are asked, as if there wasn’t warning, as if you hadn’t been dealing with them patiently for quite some time.

The implication being that you aren’t patient. That you’ve just snapped. That you’re being irrational and unfair.

“Where did that come from?”

They feign ignorance and innocence, to the particular offence and the to track record of behaviour.

They’ve asked before. It’s not like they are completely unaware.

“Was I out of line?” – that’s what they should be asking of their behaviour – a judgement call with no room for equivocation.

Instead they ask questions, the answers to which don’t quite get to the point and are guaranteed to get an answer, if answered, that won’t pose near as much threat to their ego?

“Were they offended?” – they’ll ask, as if the problem were just a matter of other people’s perspectives.

“Was I over-reacting?” – as if it were a question of proportion instead of appropriate response – when the question should have been categorical instead of a question of scale.

You get the idea.

So you answer their questions but you don’t answer them in such a straight forward manner as to enable self-deception. You use tone. “No…”, you answer – with an audible but unspoken “but” well within what they have the capacity to detect.

They’re always detecting nuance – they’re quite sensitive to the tone of your voice so you’ve done your due diligence and said as much as you are responsible for saying.

Any more than that and you’re lecturing them, which will either do their thinking for them (ultimately solving nothing) or provoking a defence (also ultimately solving nothing).

The “but” in your voice should be enough to tell them their question is based on a false premise and that they have a job to do working it out for themselves. This is a reasonable expectation.

When they obviously set over the line – perhaps not more than their three strikes worth but plain enough for all to see – you don’t reward them. If they bark orders when they don’t have a dot worth of authority, you don’t obey. If they demand answers you repeat your defiance, perhaps with a “because I said so”.

You let it be known that they have to step back over that line.

But the time comes when they’ve had more than their three strikes. When the patience you’ve extended to them that most people wouldn’t, as much as it is but finite, comes to an end.

Then the hammer falls. Then the rules have to change and you have to change them.

So you stop answering their loaded questions, nor even addressing them. You’re defiance becomes articulated, assertive and affirmative.

“Where did that come from?”, they shriek – as if it hadn’t been communicated – as if their wasn’t a long history of you patiently saying what you have to and expecting them to carry their half of the load.

In one presumptuous question born of bad faith they belittle all the patience you’ve shown them. All the consideration they’ve been shown and never really deserved, as if they’d never been the beneficiary.

If they were a friend, they’re merely an acquaintance now. You have to acknowledge this – when they disregard how you’ve done the right thing by them, they disregard your friendship.

“Where did that come from?” instead of “oh shit, I’m sorry!”

So you are left without obligation in a position where it may not be a good thing for you to continue your association, where perhaps you can sever the ties at the drop of a hat. You don’t have to burn bridges – there’s a toll booth on the bridge and you own it.

You get to set the fee. You get to turn them back.

The first toll you should extract from them is for them to acknowledge where it came from – that for things to get here things can’t have been all okay. You’ve already been coaxing them patiently in the right direction for a long time so expect them to volunteer it all.

You don’t tell them what they did wrong. They tell you. It’s been discussed already.

Spinning the truth should be treated like counterfeit currency. So you turn them back to where they came from for downplaying what they’ve done wrong. Perhaps with the understanding that they aren’t to come back – you’ve got other people crossing your bridge.

Perhaps they do this. But things don’t go back to being the way they were because you don’t have to let them be. You don’t need this shit like the way they need you.

You set the terms of any new arrangement.

Again, they act aggrieved.

“Where did that come from?”

They act entitled. Which is to say that somehow you’re obligated. You aren’t.

All of their behaviour, including the incessant “where did that come from?” lead them to this. It’s a consequence of their behaviour and oddly enough the answer to their question.

You set your terms. Maybe you’re generous or maybe you’re not – maybe you’re fair and give them no more of yourself than they deserve. They either accept them or they don’t. When they reject your terms – either out of hand or further down the track – you reject them.

“Where did that come from?”, they ask as they’ve lost another friend – another person who gave them time they weren’t entitled to to begin with.

They’ll say how people can be cruel; how the world is so unfair; how they hold themselves to a higher standard and how humanity disappoints them, or otherwise attribute their rejection to some unknown cause in a nebulous realm to which blame can be sent without return.

Anything but the fact that they’ve acted with contempt towards people they’ve owed respect and that this is what has caused their predicament. It’s their own fault, not yours, not the world’s.

So they’ll go on and cry on the shoulder of who ever else they’ve got left that will listen, asking in bad faith “where did that come from?”, “were they offended?” and “was I over-reacting?” and those few friends that they have left, will patiently listen, reply with a “but” in their voice and put up with it until the contempt has gone too far.

Then the process will repeat itself, the only unfair thing about it all being that an unfair question will continually hang over the heads of people just because they showed a bit of grace. The lonely narcissist asking the perpetual question deserving their loneliness entirely.

Wouldn’t it be nicer for all concerned if some people just grew the fuck up and took responsibility for themselves for a change?

~ Bruce


Pet Peeve – “It’s my money!”

I’m going to vent this one before I head out the door.

I’m sick and tired of people – usually self-identifying right-libertarians (or pseudo-libertarians if the association offends “true” libertarians) – claiming that taxation is taking their money. That it’s theft.

Bollocks.

It’s not your money. It’s the state’s money. You see that head of state printed on the note or stamped on the coin? Over wondered why it’s a crime to mint our own cash in the same currency? Yeah. Exactly.

It’s the state’s money - it’s been allocated to you in recognition of your productivity.

The real debate, if you are interested, is between the means of allocation.

  • A state can, unless its constitution prohibits it, choose to allocate all of its currency via an absolutely free market. I’m not anti-market, but I’m against unregulated free market fundamentalism.
  • A state can, unless its constitution prohibits it, choose to allocate all of its currency via a regulated, mixed market. I’m in this camp, although there are varying degrees and ways of mixing the marketplace.
  • A state can, unless its constitution prohibits it, choose to allocate all of its currency via the state, to each according to their ability, to each according to their needs (or via any other state-based criteria not necessarily so egalitarian). I’d lean towards this option if I weren’t such a pragmatic, piecemeal revolutionary.

Claiming that “it’s my money!” – aside from being technically false in anything other than an anarchy – is most problematic in that it side-tracks people away from the discussion of how resources are allocated to the populace and the values we use to inform such policy positions.

What does “it’s my money!” tell you about the above three options? Nothing.

“It’s my money!”, by presenting a subtly extreme anarchist value as an unassailable statement of fact*, ends debate prematurely. Debate which to my mind was cut short in the 1970s – back when “a fair go” wasn’t just a jingoistic slogan – debate that we need to be having today.

Preferably this debate can be re-vivified before matters polarize further – before the debate re-ignites as a clash between bloody-minded ideology and incorrigible self-interest because people didn’t see it in their self interest to discuss the matter sooner. Or because some right-wing radical shouted “it’s my money!” and people just left it at that.

There. Glad to have that out in the open. *Big sigh*

~ Bruce

* Always a good thing to have some Hume at hand.


How to pigeonhole atheists and reward them accordingly

// While already widely distributed, this code is still in alpha testing – use at your own risk!

1. Ask “You’re an atheist? How exactly?”; **Try not to upset the atheist with your anxiety – appear calm and respectful*

If atheist = “…an atheist, but not like…”, go to 2 else go to 3;

2. Say “Oh, I know, those new atheists are so intolerant, like that [insert new atheist name] who thinks all [insert religious identifier] are [insert unsourced claim] and all the new atheists who follow them!”;

Say “I’m so glad we can be friends!”;

Assign atheist’s in-group benefits to that of [insert religious identifier] – 1;

Be sure to demonstrate an interest in their spirituality to let them know they’ll be tested again;

Have a feel good moment;

End;

3. Do not have a conniption fit;

State “But you call yourself tolerant! [Insert new atheist name] thinks all [insert religious identifier] are [insert unsourced claim]!”;

Wait for Reply with best earnest face;

Question = 0

Go to 4;

4. Either nod or shake head to pretend you are listening while maintaining earnest face;

If Question = 0 then

if Reply = “Oh, I didn’t know that! I’m sorry!”, go to 2 else

if Reply = “Do you have a source for that?”, go to 5 else

if Reply = “That contradicts where [insert new atheist name] said [X sourced claim] about some [insert religious identifier]“, go to 6 else

if Reply = “I think we’ll have to agree to disagree”, go to 10 else

if Reply = “No [Insert new atheist name] doesn’t”, go to 7 else go to 8;

If question > 0 then

if Reply = “I’m so silly. What was I thinking?”, go to 2 else

if Reply = “Do you have a source for that?”, go to 5 else

if Reply = “I think we’ll have to agree to disagree” or “just leave me the fuck alone you bigot”, go to 10 else

if Reply = “Well I’m not the one parroting unsourced rumours” or “have you even read any [insert new atheist name]“, go to 8 else go to 9;

5. Maintain earnest face – do best to mitigate patronising attitude towards them through calm;

Question = Question +1

Say “No I don’t, but do you? Everyone knows that new atheists think [insert unsourced claim]“;

Wait for Reply with best earnest face;

Go to 4;

6. Maintain earnest face and don’t start to wobble;

Question = Question +1;

Say “Well, I’m sure you think that. But I think you’re being a bit naive.”;

Wait for Reply with best earnest face;

Go to 4;

7. Maintain earnest face and don’t start to wobble;

Question = Question +1;

Say “Do you have a source for that?”;

Wait for Reply with best earnest face;

Go to 4;

8. Appeal to authority ad preferably your own but if not possible that of the Emperor’s robes will do;

Act indignant that you’ve had your integrity questioned;

Assume the posture you would when speaking to a barbarian;

Go to 9;

9. Ask yourself if you are a rationalist or relativist;

If you = “rationalist” then imply “I am a tolerant, rational [insert religious identifier here] perfectly capable of objectively criticising [insert new atheist name], not that a member of the new atheist cult like you would be able to tell!” with as much subtlety as you are willing to muster, else

if you = “relativist” then imply “I am a tolerant, post-modern [insert religious identifier here] not at all credulous to the meta-narratives of [insert new atheist name], not that a member of the new atheist cult like you would be able to tell!”" with as much subtlety as you are willing to muster;

Wait for Reply;

Go to 11;

10. Grind your teeth and fume while at the same time smiling and getting back to other tasks;

Assign atheist’s in-group benefits to that of [insert religious identifier] – [passive aggressive compensation equalling the magnitude of your spite];

End;

11. Hold your chin up to let them know you won’t be stripped of your self-respect;

If Reply = “You know the wholesale smearing a contrived out-group like “new atheists” without even a shred of evidence isn’t particularly tolerant” go to 13 else

if Reply = “What’s rational about being in a state of cognitive dissonance about the empirical evidence of your own prejudice towards “new atheists”?” go to 14 else

if Reply = “Oh jeez, somebody get Alan Sokal in here, PLEASE!” go to 15 else go to 16;

12. Intensity = Intensity + 1;

Wave arms and raise voice at level = Intensity;

Say “[Random non-sequitur from your 'Big Bad Book of New Atheists - Guide To The Despicable']“

If Intensity < 666 then go to 12 else go to 16;

13. Say “I”M INTOLERANT!!! BUT [Insert new atheist name] THINKS ALL [insert religious identifier] ARE [insert unsourced claim]! WHAT ABOUT HIM?!?!”;

Go to 12;

14. Say “I AM BEING RATIONAL! I’M A RATIONALIST! RATIONALISM WAS BUILT ON THE [insert religious identifier] TRADITION!”;

Go to 12;

15. Say “CREDULOUS, INTOLERANT POMOPHOBE!”;

Go to 12;

16. Fume;

Cease communication with the obvious bad person in all of this;

Assign atheist’s in-group benefits to that of [insert religious identifier] – [passive aggressive compensation equalling the magnitude of your spite];

End;


Posturing and pretense of political argument in the world of the godless

I’m not the greatest proponent of deliberate, out-and-out blasphemy for blasphemy’s sake, nor am I by any means an opponent of blasphemy. I simply have caveats.

For me, offence is an inevitable side effect of challenging sectarian power, not the goal itself. And therein lies the problem for me – like others in a democracy, I have the right to challenge sectarian political power by way of argument and the concept of blasphemy is a good way of stripping me of that right.

My ends may differ from the “offensive” atheists out there who are just in it for the laughs (whoever they are), but like them I don’t see “I’m offended” as a legitimate rejoinder.

So when some “high road” preacher from our side of the fence starts waiving their finger and telling us to take the high road; telling us what not to do; telling us atheists how they are embarrassed by our blasphemy, I’m not at all impressed.

Paul Kurtz, now former chair emeritus of the Center for Inquiry has been in the spotlight, or perhaps hogging the limelight, of late. Kurtz, seemingly increasingly, belongs to the take-the-highroad camp. Objecting to the Center for Inquiry’s Blasphemy Day for not reaching his (increasingly?) lofty ideals.

Similarly, Edd Doerr, former head of The American Humanist Association last December waved his finger at the proliferation of billboard campaigns. Specifically the ads claiming of all things (shock horror), that you can be good without God. Why? Because “divisive ad campaigns invite blowback and stimulate both ends of the religious spectrum to engage in fruitless bouts of name-calling and invective”.

Yes. Doerr is telling us that pointing out that ethics are a product of humanity, a view that religious humanists and godless humanists have in common, is divisive.

There was no invective at all in the Good without God billboard campaign. There was no invective stemming from the campaign. The only invective surrounding it was that directed at it.

Doerr is just taking the be-nice-to-religious-people-as-categorical-imperative to its logical conclusion; pandering to religious bigotry held dear by bigoted religious people. “How dare they say that morals are human in origin and that godless heathens can therefore be as moral as religious people!”

This is why I take more issue with this kind of thing from the Doerrs and the Kurtzs in the world of the godless than I do with the admittedly acquired taste works of the likes of PZ Myers.

Hyperbolic rhetoric at least to some degree risks inflammatory polarisation, but it doesn’t guarantee that anything bad will come of it. This is as strong an argument as the “I’m offended” or “play nice” types can make against the object of their chagrin. It’s not a necessary, nor obvious outcome that their fears, real or contrived, are realised.

On the other hand, it’s a necessary outcome of the “be better” approach that equality is devalued? How so?

There is a minimum standard for intelligent, civic conduct that one can expect from people speaking from a position of privilege. Indeed, I think there are two tiers of minimum conduct – that required to be taken seriously (the one more relevant to this discussion) and another for lawful minimum conduct (e.g. using a media pulpit to call for the assassination of a democratically elected head of state falls below this tier). (For some idea of scope, I consider Myers’ work above the first tier, while Pat Condell’s sillier posts and Thunderf00t’s recent failings I’d place below the first tier but above the second.)

In an equal, pluralistic democracy these standards are the same regardless of what race, gender or religious tradition you hail from. This is where Kurtz and Doerr run into trouble.

Their finger waiving necessarily raises the first tier (behaviour to expect) for atheists, but not for others. This is contrary to the cause of atheist equality, and contrary to the cause of equality in general.

If it weren’t a categorical imperative, if Kurtz and Doerr confined their high expectations to specific office as a matter of pragmatism, I wouldn’t be writing this. But they don’t.

Doerr painted the ‘Good without God’ billboard campaign as intrinsically at odds with secular humanist values. It was practically the secular humanist equivalent of a Papal decree.

And Kurtz takes his “be nicer than you actually are, and nicer than the norm, to get people to merely accept you as normal” schick on the road, selling it to the godless masses.

Part of this equality thing that perhaps more than anything else is supposed to be a part of our mandate, is that we all get a bit of leeway for difference in personality given our differences in nature and nurture; a bit of leeway for difference in approach given the different ways we can be received and a margin for human error – a margin the same as that given to anyone else with the same opportunities, regardless of religiosity. Jokes can fall flat. Tone can be off.

It’s not ideal to screw-up – that much is self-evident -  but within reason it’s not something for people to be made to feel ashamed about – again, regardless of religiosity.

If you aren’t on board with atheists being able to screw up as much as anyone else, then you aren’t on board with equality.

The neglect of this very serious point by Kurtz and Doerr is to my mind a far worse infraction, far more substantial than any of PZ Myers’ more misjudged rhetoric. To the extent that I consider it beneath the first tier I talked about – although not beneath the second, lower tier. This error of judgement may not be as colourful, or brazen, or apparently as distasteful as the worst that Pat Condell has to offer, but to me the tiers I talk of aren’t a matter of taste.

I find Kurtz and Doerr’s take on acceptable conduct amongst the godless, to the stated aim of equality, to be as wrong and self-contradictory as Pat Condell’s arguments about women’s clothing and freedom of movement across borders is to his stated aim of freedom. They are just logically, terminally at odds with their stated civic goals.

***

Often, by those of the “mandatory high road” persuasion, much is made of the alliances the godless have, or could have, with people of moderate religions. Indeed, that’s pretty much it – “we won’t win any religious allies” (I paraphrase) – as if that was an argument in and of itself.

Religious allies aren’t necessarily wanted

Let me say that it is by no means self-evident that in a pluralistic democracy, that all persuasions are cherished equally by all people. There is no place for forced affection in a tolerant, multicultural society.

To those of a multicultural persuasion who may disagree, let me put a thought experiment by you. I’m a vegetarian. Would you take away my multicultural street-cred if I didn’t sit around in a kebab shop, eating lamb kebabs? No. There you go – a clear, if simple example. Inter-cultural affection is a multicultural ideal, but not a multicultural necessity.

Similarly, while I would never advocate tearing down a Jeffersonian wall (indeed like Christopher Hitchens, I say “build up that wall”) to tell Christians not to wear their crosses in public and so on. This is me being tolerant, but it doesn’t require that I have a relationship with a single religious person – as it happens I do have relationships with religious people, but in as far as a tolerant pluralism is concerned, this is incidental.

So let me just say that in and of itself, losing potential religious contacts isn’t a deal breaker because it is not self-evident that we want to have relationships with religious people.

But it’s worse, the line that we have to behave like angels to keep our religious friends. Worse because it plays to concepts both naive and sinister about “having the numbers”.

Religious allies aren’t necessarily needed

I always get a kick when Chris Mooney calls people politically naive for not trying to brook alliances with religious progressives. Really, I do. It’s so… Naive.

The trade union movement in Australia used to, and to some extent has a fixation on “having the numbers”. Indeed, this is where the cynical end to an obsession with head counting comes in – branch stacking (oh how that’s killed truly intelligent debate in the Labor party).

But naivety – if you’re a young intern unionist in Australia, you’ll probably be lucky enough to come across some emerging political wisdom in union education that’s being taught these days. Aside from a recognition of where an obsession about “having the numbers” can lead you, it’s being realised that “having the numbers” isn’t as necessary to political success as common wisdom may have you believe.

The battle in South Australia (pre-WorkChoices) to have the right for casual workers to transition to permanent part-time contracts after sufficient periods of employment, amongst other examples, showed how a union movement without the numbers and without help from government, could still effect change.

Ask yourself – why does the Christian Right punch so much above its weight in both terms of money* and head-count?

Treating the existence of religious allies as self-evidently necessary to political success is naive.

Religious allies aren’t necessarily going to be attracted by a softly-softly approach

You know how the null hypothesis works when you are testing for difference between two groups of data? That without evidence to the contrary, no difference is assumed?

Take two groups – success in bringing religious people on board by method – high risk straight talking versus used car sales-man.

Until people telling me that one approach is better than the other present some actual hard data, guess what I’m going to assume?

Yes. Being straight talking can risk provoking the resolution of cognitive dissonance through the dismissal of data – “that mean atheist was rude to me! I don’t have to consider what they said!”

Why is it so hard to consider that other approaches may result in similar dismissal – “that friendly atheist is being sneaky! I don’t have to consider what they said!”

Please, don’t tell me you aren’t aware of poisoning of the well of both stripes. Please don’t tell me that there aren’t manifold means of ego defence. It’s not self-evident that one approach is inherently better than the other.

And for pity’s sake, even when cognitive dissonance isn’t an issue, I’ve more respect for my religious friends than to try to crawl up their arse in the first place.

Potential religious allies aren’t necessarily in line with our stated interests

Let’s take a relatively non-contentious issue amongst humanists – freedom of expression is a universal human right.

Consider some of our prospective religious allies.

Certainly not the Christian right – they’re unlikely to touch us with a barge-pole even if what we are proposing is ultimately in their own best interests.

Broadly, we’re left with religious moderates and the evangelical left.

Whittle that down further – who of the moderate and evangelical left are we most likely to attract by shunning blasphemy – the Pythonesque “I reserve the right to…”, but not actually be able to carry through with the act?

I reserve the right to blaspheme, even though… – It’s “pure Monty Python!”

Sure, amongst those you can attract, you’ll still attract those who take freedom of expression seriously, but perhaps this is using a magnet when a sieve is the appropriate tool.

It may be the case that you don’t want people on board who are on board with anti-blasphemy laws. Otherwise you could be inviting internecine spats like that seen above in The Life of Brian.

Please don’t tell me that you’re unaware of religious moderates who support the banning of blasphemy as a hate-crime. Indeed, with reference to the mentioned tiers of acceptable engagement, I view anti-blasphemy laws as below the second, lower tier – I consider anti-blasphemy laws a crime against humanity, and those who enact them as human rights violators – as criminals, if not in law then in principle.

It’s not necessarily the case that religious allies attracted by a given tact are going to be assets to the cause.

Even when in discreet cases religious allies are wanted, and are needed, it doesn’t necessarily fall to the godless to court them

Maybe if you were an ex-Soviet or Maoist atheist looking to reconcile with Russian Orthodox or Chinese Christians, you’d have your work set out for you. But…

How many of the godless people in humanist or even (ahem) “New Atheist” organisations today, have or have had membership in an organisation that is responsible for building the rift that exists between the religious and the non-religious?

I’ll be blunt. The Roman Catholic Church has a responsibility to build a bridge with atheists. The Church of England has a responsibility to build a bridge with atheists. I don’t have a responsibility to bridge the gap, nor do many, many, many other godless people.

And for pity’s sake, the churches most likely to be responsible actually have more of the material means to do the job! Why the hell am I being hit up for my labour?

You want an alliance to fight for environmental policy? Fine. Tell the CoE and the Roman Catholic church to overcome the obstacles they’ve engineered to make it happen! Stop this pretentious, false mea culpa that it’s the godless who are getting in the way of things.

For the many, many people like me, expecting us to make the effort to meet with the very churches with a history of creating the division in the first place is an imposture. It’s a yoke. Keep the damn thing – and don’t you dare call me divisive and expect me to treat you like a rational, honest, fair human being, just because I don’t don that yoke. I do associate with religious people of my own choosing, and if I don a yoke to do so, it’s because I’ve put it on myself.

And here’s the political risk. It may seem politically expedient to make an effort to woo religious people – there may very well be utility in any given circumstance to doing this. You may very win a political battle that you otherwise wouldn’t have. But to expect that this is where the consequences end is incredibly short-sighted.

There’s already a pervasive attitude that atheists are responsible for divisiveness, despite that the whopping great trench that’s been dug between us and the religious has been there for years and that we did little to dig it. This state of affairs is there, waiting to be inherited. It’s not our burden to inherit.

As with the more attractive trappings of religious tradition – the architecture, the private art collections, the ceremony – the division is the heritage of people who choose to affiliate with the organisations that caused it.

Expecting the godless to just shoulder more than our share of the burden, without acknowledging that it’s not actually our burden to bear, is to my mind setting up an incredibly dangerous political precedent. If we are to do this at all, it should not be before it is widely acknowledged by the leaders of the very churches that dug the stinking great trench, that the participation of the godless (or at least the innocent majority) is an act of grace.

Indeed, so huge is such a political loss, that I think it quite clear that there are numerous political goals that are worth sacrificing in order not to lose just this one. And this is even before considering that publicly telling atheists that they need to be nicer plays to the impression that atheists are less nice than other people – which is hardly an established fact.

Hence, even if religious allies can be useful for some other political goal, I don’t think it necessarily worth while going to the effort to bring them on board. Depending on the consequences of any given tactic, it could very well cost far too much.

***

A few last words

Keep in mind – I’m not some kind of atheist separatist. I’m simply criticising a number of the unspoken and seemingly unexamined assumptions naively propagated each time we atheists are told that playing nice won’t win religious friends. I’m criticising the notion that this is the way that atheists in general, not atheists in specific roles, should conduct themselves.

I’m not averse to being nice to people. I’m not averse to tone. I’m not averse to political timing. I’m certainly not averse to religious people.

I’m not averse to the idea that at least where relevant circumstances permit (China perhaps – perhaps even more-so in dealing with atheists of certain dispositions?), religious people may very well reasonably share all the same concerns I’ve expressed above in as far as their conduct towards the godless is concerned.

I’m not blaming anyone for the state of affairs – it was like this before any of us could have an effect on the situation. The situation is inherited – what parts of the situation being inherited determined by which in-group benefits (and out-group penalties) we opt for or otherwise inherit.

I’m not averse to acknowledging the many contributions that Kurtz and Doerr (and others) have made to humanism, skepticism and the cause of the godless over the length of their careers. I have no ill will (nor indeed much in the way of a crystallised opinion) about Kurtz and Doerr as people themselves – although I’ll admit that Doerr’s frankly misleading own-goal about the ‘Good without God’ billboards has sent my opinion of him in a downward trajectory.

I’m not averse to subjecting the arguments of those on “the other side” to the same scrutiny I’m subjecting those of the likes of Kurtz and Doerr to – I think my treatment of Draw Muhammad Day over the past month bares this out.

What I am averse to is being told along with others that we shouldn’t call a spade a spade, or a dickhead a dickhead, on the grounds that it will cost us religious allies thus necessarily leading to political failure – all with little more justification than that. It is by no means well-known that this is the case – it is by no means obvious – whatever happened to a bit of epistemological humility amongst skeptics?

I may choose to use tact in order to get a point across, but I will not contort my logic merely because my views may be unwelcome. I will not put an issue on the back burner merely because a group of prospective allies don’t want to deal with it – one needs to argue their political method a lot better than that to win me over. Prospective leaders of any ilk need to argue their case a lot better if they expect me to in any way support them.

I find the “play nice” argument unconvincing, and the paternalistic manner in which it is usually conveyed as supposedly obvious truth to be entirely unhelpful.

~ Bruce

* Do you really see corporate money being behind creationism, or RU486 bans? Where’s the profit?


Groan… People who just can’t get over your vegetarianism

Way back in 1998, I made my first attempt at vegetarianism after being chewed out, rightly, by a young lady who thought I was better than that.

It wasn’t easy and like my many attempts, it only lasted a few weeks. As I’ve mentioned before on this blog, eating meat is something that’s normalised in me.

The primary reason – always the primary reason – has been that of the suffering of animals.

I’ve been told a lot of dodgy-to-not-so-convincing reasons such as the claim that it will increase your lifespan.

The World Health Organisation is the source usually cited for the studies that saw higher mortality amongst meat eaters than vegetarians. But, what people citing this source – apparently not reading or not understanding it – don’t tell you is that the vegetarian groups in the earlier study had a lower incidence of smoking and once this was accounted for in further studies, the morbidity difference between lacto-ovo vegetarians and meat-eaters went away. In fact the vegans scored significantly worse.

Then there’s the water and fossil fuel usage. I’m not adverse to the idea that not eating meat in general may leave a smaller carbon footprint, or save water. But I’m yet to be shown a convincing study by the advocates. The problem with research I’ve been shown is usually that fuel/water usage between vegetarian and meat-sources are counted differently (e.g. double counting for meat produce, or omitting certain uses from vegetable produce while counting it for meat produce).

Although, I’m not prepared to go into great length looking into the veracity of either when even if true, it wouldn’t change my behaviour. My vegetarianism doesn’t hinge on the truth of  either of these kinds of arguments.

Now if it’s not hard enough for me just to check my food sources while at the same time resisting the urges that were inculcated into me as a child, people have to go and make it harder by being dicks.

There’s a phrase of Bertrand Russell’s that is apt, “conventional people are roused to fury by departure from convention, largely because they regard such departure as a criticism of themselves.” Although to be more precise, I’d go with “roused to resolve cognitive dissonance through ego defence”.

I’m not talking about the likes of a friend that said “I’m going to give you so much shit from now on!” There’s no mental gymnastics there – just humour and an understated, implicit admission of moral failure.

It’s pretence and moral indignation that’s the problem.

People most often like to think of themselves as being good. The observation that I’m avoiding doing something bad, something that they’re themselves doing, causes dissonance with my meat-eating acquaintances’ self-image of goodness.

I’m not judgemental about it. I don’t jump down anyone’s throat. The only time I snap at anyone about the issue is when they’re already digging away at me.

It’s not jumping down someone’s throat if they started it.

1998 (I paraphrase).

Cousin: “Would you like a metwurst sandwich?”

Me: “Geez! I’m a vegetarian! I only told you again a couple of hours ago.”

Cousin: “I CAN EAT WHAT I WANT!”

Notice how I’m supposed to be oppressing my cousin?

I didn’t tell anyone what to eat in that conversation. I was newly vegetarian, committed but struggling, had communicated the fact already and was then thoughtlessly offered something that he knew I’d find tasty.

I’ve found it amazing the level of mental gymnastics some people will go to blame me for something because of my vegetarianism, even if it hasn’t happened yet.

Last Christmas (again, I paraphrase).

Mother: “I hope you’re not going to ruin Christmas for everyone else with this [vegetarianism].”

My not eating meat will ruin Christmas for everyone else? Even though I’d already pre-cooked my own Christmas lunch and tea to save any hassles.

And if it’s not a big enough pain in the arse that they’ve got these kind of issues, it’s the mental gymnastics they go through to convince themselves that they aren’t going through mental gymnastics.

“I’m just trying to be a good host!”

“I forgot you’re a vegetarian!” (An odd thing to forget given how obsessed and neurotic they can be about it, no?)

It’s the ones who are the “forgetful good hosts” that needle you about it the most. Needle, needle, needle.

They’ll serve something up with a big fat hot steak or piece of pork with crackling smacked on the plate, hover it in front of your face and then proceed to inquire as if to be considerate.

Of course they know this kind of thing is attractive to me, they know that I don’t want to be offered meat and rather than ask if I don’t want it, they’ll ask why I don’t want it and if I’m sure I don’t want it, all in the tone of the most conscientious host. All while hovering the plate in front of my face.

The context always shows they should know how to behave better. You’ve already talked to them about it within the past few hours. They spend time trying to “serve” you, all why others are waiting hungrily. And why ask why you don’t want it if they don’t already know you don’t want it?

Odd behaviour for the conscientious or for anyone who supposedly doesn’t realise that you don’t eat meat.

I mentioned some of the justifications I don’t use to inform my vegetarianism – health and environmental reasons.

Yet surprisingly after the umpteenth time I’ve told them “no”, they can still pull the straw man rejoinder like…

“It won’t kill you!”

…or…

“It won’t cause that much environmental damage. Just one.”

Of course, I don’t repeat my reasons for being a vegetarian ad infinitum to people who behave like this. What’s the point of expressing a moral justification if your interlocutor isn’t interested in listening.

But it’s not like I haven’t tried – it’s just that I’ve learned that it’s futile so I’ve stopped.

And oh, the sheer hypocrisy of asking why, when they don’t care why! The disingenuous questions aren’t much fun.

I no longer justify my choice if they ask me to explain. The dialogue is closed.

And why not? It is my body after all.

Why am I even having to have these discussions? Well, we know the answer of course – my choice through no intent on my part reflects on them in a way that they aren’t willing to admit to themselves.

But that’s their problem. I shouldn’t have to hear about it. I’m sick of hearing about it.

It makes being a vegetarian that much more difficult on top of everything else.

There’s only so much time before I grow so tired of this that I’ll stop being the passive party and I’ll actively use their own neurosis on the issue against them.

The discomfort they feel now at my being a vegetarian – the imagined persecution through imagined ruined public holidays and imagined chastisings – will seem insignificant when I play the double jeopardy card and actually do what I’ve been accused of doing. Namely chastise and ruin public holidays.

It’s either that or just walking away when it gets too much. Ultimately, I can afford to burn these bridges if my stock in these relationships falls so low.

I’ve been vegetarian for over half a year now and things are staying that way.

~ Bruce

(Photo source: Davide Vizzini)