Author Archive for Anti-Rev. J. Reed Braden

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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Christians, you can’t have your MLK and shoot him too.

File this one under "Yokels arguing about non-news."

I love reading my local newspaper. Not because of any false illusion of journalistic integrity, but because of a sense of schadenfreude about what Roanokers call news, denied of anything really newsworthy.

Sunday's Extra section featured an article about a local debate over a proposed statue of Martin Luther King, Jr. to grace the MLK Memorial Bridge which has been under construction for as long as I care to remember. The debate is over what MLK should be wearing. There are those who want to depict him how he was seen by everyone in the country and how he appears in every video and photograph I have ever seen of the man: in a suit. The others want him in a clerical robe, how he was seen by his congregation in a purely religious context and never seen by the public eye. It should be straight-forward. One would not erect a statue of Rosa Parks in anything other than her public formal attire. I would shit a brick to see a statue of Ms. Parks in a bathrobe and curlers and holding a cup of coffee or a statue of Booker T. Washington in a tee shirt and a Yankees hat. It would be equally ridiculous to erect a statue to Dr. King in his clerical robe when he never wore his robe to rallies and marches. Dr. King did this for a reason: He didn't want to give the impression that his pastoral duties or his religious beliefs had anything to do with his call for equality.

So why is this a big deal? Because the religious love to claim that his activism was religiously derived. Never mind that the Bible advocates slavery, that the slave trade was almost exclusively run by Christians, that the Christians were the most likely to support slavery in the Civil War, that the Christians were the group most opposed to the Civil Rights Act, that the Christians called Dr. King an Atheist repeatedly even though he was clearly not, that Christians nationwide prayed for James Earl Ray's safety after he assassinated Dr. King and that white Christian organisations tried to have Dr. King's famous speech at the Lincoln Memorial taken off of the television so their children wouldn't have to be exposed to other races. No, none of that matters today, since the Christians lost the battles to subjugate blacks and want to change history to make it seem like they were on the winning side!

This push to have Dr. King's statue decked out in religious attire is a petty attempt to cover up Christian racist history in America and claim the Civil Rights Movement, now that it's deemed acceptable, for Christians. It's political garbage that's stinking up the memory of a great man.

The article sums up three arguments for both sides. The three main arguments for the business suit are pretty straight-forward: "More people saw him attired this way at civil rights events," "[the suit m]akes him seem more approachable -- a man of the people," and, "[the suited statue a]ppeals to those who aren't necessarily religious." Three great arguments for the suit, if you ask me. Oh... I almost forgot. Happy birthday, Rebecca. The three main arguments for the robe are a little more shaky:

"Establishes his moral standing."

Parents, if you see a man in a robe, would you automatically assume he has high moral character and loan him your 12-year-old son? If you answered yes, expect a visit from Social Services.

"Sets his statue apart from suit-wearing politicians."

I don't understand this argument. Does the classic business suit stand for corruption and hooker killing just because Ted Kennedy wears one? I missed that memo. I always thought the suit was a neutral outfit that made no statement of political stance or moral standing but rather allowed you to focus on the man inside the suit without judging him on the suit itself... but I'm just one gay... I could be wrong about fashion.

But aren't the suited politicians who were cared enough about to warrant a public statue generally the ones who had some sort of greatness about them? Most statues of George Washington are in a suit (although one has him sitting in Jupiter's throne with a toga on... I never understood that one) and the iconic Lincoln Memorial statue, the one that MLK gave his most famous speech in front of, is wearing a suit. I'm sure this point sounded good in your head, whoever made this argument in the first place, but at the moment it crossed your lips, it made you look like a moron.

Also, this is Roanoke, Virginia. I can't think of a single public statue that we have. I'm willing to be corrected and shown a public statue in Roanoke, but I honestly can't think of a single one. We are not a big enough or important enough town to warrant that sort of decoration. We have a freaking museum of nothing but photographs of trains--all of them taken by the same man--for Christ's sake! I'm sure that no one will confuse the Martin Luther King, Jr. statue with the plethora of other suited statues in our booming metropolis.

"Church vestments are timeless and evocative."

Really? Timeless? I was under the impression that "timeless" meant that something has survived the ravages of time on its own merits, not through people fanatically clinging to ancient tradition. Audrey Hepburn and Clark Gable are timeless. Clerical vestments are old and tired.

And what is evocative about priestly vestments? "Evocative" means that something evokes some sort of emotion. Halle Berry's wardrobe evokes a sense of beauty and awe in most people. Pierce Brosnan's tuxedo evokes power and panache. Ask any church-going Catholic: Priestly vestments evoke nothing but boredom.

You know what outfit is really timeless and evocative? A business suit.

I've found that it is almost universal that when an argument is religiously motivated but the debaters don't want to reveal it as such, the arguments are feeble and ridiculous. It's true with Intelligent Design Mythology and it's true here too.

What's the most interesting part of this ongoing debate is that the statue has already been decided. It's the suit. However, the local yokels have nothing better to do than to argue about it.

Sigh.


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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Slate: Huck’s Free Pass

Christopher Hitchens wrote a great article about Fuckabee's thinly-veiled racism today.

Huck's Free Pass
Why are the media ignoring Mike Huckabee's remarks about the Confederate flag?
By Christopher Hitchens

In this country, it seems that you can always get an argument going about "race" as long as it is guaranteed to be phony, but never when it is real. Almost every day brings news of full-dress media-oriented spats about Don Imus, Bob Grant, or the recent nonstory about how some golf show had managed to mention Tiger Woods and the word lynch in the same news cycle. The preceding week had involved some trivial but intense parsing of an exchange between Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama about Dr. Martin Luther King. But just let the real thing occur, with a full-blooded and full-throated bellow of old-fashioned authentic racism, and you can see the entire press refusing to cover it for fear of having to confront the real and unvarnished thing (and perhaps for reasons having to do with other "sensitivities" as well).

Gov. Mike Huckabee made the following unambiguously racist and demagogic appeal in Myrtle Beach, S.C., last week:

You don't like people from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag. In fact, if somebody came to Arkansas and told us what to do with our flag, we'd tell 'em what to do with the pole; that's what we'd do.

This is a straightforward racist appeal for the following reasons:

1) The South Carolina flag is a perfectly nice flag, featuring the palmetto plant, about which no "outsider" has ever offered any free advice.

2) The Confederate battle flag, to which Gov. Huckabee was alluding, was first flown over the South Carolina state capitol in 1962, as a deliberately belligerent riposte to the civil rights movement, and is not now, and never has been, the flag of that great state.

3) By a vote of both South Carolina houses in the year 2000, the Confederate battle flag ceased to be flown over the state capitol and now only waves (as quite possibly it should) over the memorial to fallen Confederate soldiers.

Thus, as well as crassly behaving exactly like someone "from outside the state coming in and telling you what to do with your flag," former Gov. Huckabee of Arkansas deliberately aligned himself with the rancorous minority who are still not reconciled to the idea that South Carolina may not officially consecrate racism and slavery and secession. "Your flag"? What an insult, not just to the descendants of slavery but to the many, many other loyalists and Unionists who fought and died to bring their state back into the Union. And what is the point of the "outside the state" slur? Wasn't this exactly what Gov. Orval Faubus of Arkansas used to say, as if to make it seem that all was hunky-dory in his own tight little dominion until them goddam "outside agitators" arrived? In the end, as Gov. Huckabee may or may not recall, the 101st Airborne Division, most of them "outsiders" not from Arkansas, had to be sent by a Republican president to integrate the schools of Little Rock. That was a lot of trouble and expense that the big-mouth rednecks put us all to, but it was worth it. It's insufferable to hear this glib idiot make a mockery of it now in order to try to get the Klan vote in South Carolina.

One might add a couple of other points. The political flag of the Confederacy—the so-called "Stars and Bars"—is one thing. The battle flag of the Confederate army; the most militant symbolic form that secession and slavery ever took, is quite another. Under this fiery cross of St. Andrew, the state of Pennsylvania was invaded and free Americans were rounded up and re-enslaved. Under this same cross, it was announced that any Union officer commanding freed-slave soldiers, or any of his men, would be executed if captured. (In other words, war crimes were boasted of in advance.) The 13 stars of the same flag include stars for two states—Kentucky and Missouri—that never did secede, and they thus express a clear ambition to conquer free and independent states. And this is the symbol that Huckabee, seeking to ingratiate himself with the lowest element and lowest common denominator, calls "your flag." You might as well do a cross-burning and have done with it, and we all know how the networks would react if some ignorant kids did that.

But when real political racism rears its head, our easily upset media falls oddly silent. Can you guess why? Of course you can. Gov. Huckabee is the self-anointed candidate of the simple and traditional Christian folk who hate smart-ass, educated, big-city types, and if you dare to attack him for his vulgarity and stupidity and bigotry, he will accuse you of prejudice in return. What he hopes is that his neo-Confederate sickness will become subsumed into easy chatter about his recipes for fried squirrel and his other folksy populist themes. (By the way, you owe it to yourselves to watch the exciting revelations about his squirrel-grilling past; and do examine his family Christmas card while you're at it.) But this drivel, it turns out, is all a slick cover for racist incitement, and it ought not to be given a free pass.

And not merely racist incitement. So slack is our grasp of history and principle that we seem unable to think of the Confederacy as other than "offensive" to blacks. But there are two Republican candidates in this election—the absurd and sinister Ron Paul being the other—who choose this crucial moment in our time to exalt those who attempted to destroy the Union by force, and those who solicited the help of foreign powers in order to do so, and whose treason led to the violent deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans. Should their patriotism be questioned? I would say most definitely yes, and questioned repeatedly, at that, perhaps especially if they are seeking the nomination of the party of Lincoln.

In Washington, D.C., Gov. Huckabee has hired as smooth and silky a pair of big-city insiders as you could meet in a day's march: Ed Rollins and James Pinkerton. Elegant ornaments of many a past administration and many a well-heeled think tank (Pinkerton describes himself loftily as "a Burkean conservative and a Nixonian foreign-policy realist"), they know exactly what calculation lies behind their boss' smarmy appeals to the uneducated racists and losers and to the fools who believe that Adam and Eve were real (and recent) people. But do they endorse his street tactics as well? I, for one, would rather like to find out. Here's a genuine scandal about racism, and waddaya know? My great profession is absolutely determined to overlook it.

Christopher Hitchens is a columnist for Vanity Fair and the author of God Is Not Great: How Religion Poisons Everything.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2182358/



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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Oh Lord…

Jesus loves the little children/All the children of the world...


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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Mitt Romney Called Out in Staples



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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Why is Huckabee Allowed to Exist?

"But I believe it's a lot easier to change the Constitution than it would be to change the word of the living god. And that's what we need to do -- to amend the Constitution so it's in God's standards rather than try to change God's standards so it lines up with some contemporary view." - Mike Huckabee

There is no reason, short of mass delusion, why a man clothed in American flag-print spandex and carrying a replica of the Constitution hasn't punched this man in the face in an attempt to bring him back to reality.

So how, Huck, are we to amend the constitution to appease God's word?

Replace the Ten Amendments with the Ten Commandments?

The Bible is immutable and unchangeable, according to legend. Our founders wrote our Constitution to be a flexible, changing document. The two texts cannot both exist as law of the same land, and to change one of the texts to emulate the other would end up destroying both. In fact, not only did the founding fathers want the US Constitution to change with time, they wanted it to be relatively easy to change it. This is why our Constitution is the oldest written Constitution to still be in effect. If you don't believe that the founders (who you believe were guided by Christ, but history seems to disagree with you on that point) wanted the Constitution to be a changing, flexible document, you might try reading it. I would suggest perusing Article V.


Required Reading for Mike Huckabee: The United States Constitution, The Bill of Rights (Am. I-X), Amendments XI-XXVII, Something that is not the Bible, The plea of a national icon.

Governor Huckabee, I say this not only as a descendant of President Thomas Jefferson, but as a concerned American citizen: You will never be like my ancestors who built this country in a time of turmoil and against all odds. You don't even know who those brave men were. You make up little fallacies and delusions about our founding fathers and you twist them to suit the needs of your poisonous dogma. If my eight-greats grandfather, Mr. Jefferson, were alive today, he would be at the head of the revolution that would actively be taking the White House back for the American people. Our current President would be Jefferson's enemy #1 and you would be a close second. Lucky for you, no one today has Mr. Jefferson's spine. Else yours would be the tyrant's blood that waters the tree of liberty.

And it is because Thomas Jefferson and his co-patriots risked their lives, many of them with no thought of post-mortem existence, that I can say this today. America used to stand for a great ideal. It used to stand for freedom, democracy, and justice. Our current President has turned our once-great nation into a police state with an imaginary god as its ruler, and you have proven
that you will perpetuate this deadly theocracy with gusto and a smile.

Mike Huckabee, you scare the fuck out of me.


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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Electoral Compass Results

A bunch of folks across the blogosphere have posted their results from Electoral Compass USA. Generally, I hate these things. They usually ignore questions on certain issues that leads to inaccurately placing me next to Ron Paul. I would vote for Osama bin Laden over Ron Paul. They're both equally deranged and both want to destroy the US government, but Osama seems less irritating to me.

This one, though, asked all the right questions, covered all the major topics, and included a feature where you can compare your answers with the answers of the candidates.

Here's my result:


I'm closest to Rudy Giuliani and farthest from Barack Obama. I wouldn't disagree with this graph except that, in actuality, I am farther distanced from the four more conservative candidates than pictured and I wouldn't have put Ron Paul on the graph anywhere... seeing as there is no axis for Libertarian fucktardedness.

Anyhoo, I encourage you to take the assessment. I thought it was very well done.


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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Friendly Atheism: “Whose Conversion Would Matter Most?”

Hemant asked a few interesting questions on his blog yesterday:

A couple days ago, Shalini jokingly said she converted and started receiving tons of messages from Christians saying that their prayers were answered.

When Anthony Flew came out as a Deist in 2004 (and a book about it came out a couple months ago), a lot of Christians used him as an example of how even the “most notorious atheist” found God. (Though they usually exaggerated and said he believed in the same version of God they do — which is not true.)

To be honest, I’d never even heard of Flew before his Deism came to light in 2004. His change of mind didn’t impact me very much.

But it does raise an interesting question…

Whose “conversion” (from atheism to theism) would have the biggest impact on your life?

If Richard Dawkins said he now believed in the Christian God, can you imagine what the reaction would be from both sides?

I’d ask the same question in reverse also:

Whose “conversion” (from theism to atheism) would have the biggest impact on your life?

Would atheists embrace Pat Robertson if he said on the 700 Club that he’s been wrong all this time and he didn’t believe in God anymore or would they still distance themselves from him?

If Billy Graham said he knew he wouldn’t be meeting his wife in Heaven because he no longer believed there was one, what would the Christian world say?

Did the revelation of Mother Teresa’s lack of faith actually make a difference to you?
What would I do if Pat Robertson began wearing a little red A on his lapel? I would snigger a little and go make myself a ham sandwich. What would I do if Richard Dawkins put a chrome Jesus fish (one of the repulsive ones that says "TRUTH" inside of it and is eating a tiny Darwin fish) on the back of his car? I would be a wee bit disappointed and I would go make another ham sandwich. Why should I drop what I am doing and jump for joy or weep my heart out over someone else's search for the truth?

As for Billy Graham, he is senile and ready to die. (Or, if he's not ready for his own death, the rest of us are ready enough to make up for his unpreparedness.) He's a racist, homophobic bully. In fact, one may recite the, "The God of the Old Testament..." line from chapter two of Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion and most of the adjectives used for Yahweh would apply to Billy Graham as well.

Congratulations, Billy, you've emulated your master to an amazing degree, and I must respect that a little bit... although I still won't be able to bring myself to cry over your corpse. As the man who did the most to brainwash my mind as a child, due to my parents' choices of churches where the pastors preached out of your canon rather than the Bible's, you will get the least amount of pity from me. If you announced today that you were an Atheist, it would not make amends for the damage you inflicted on my youth. I would also be inclined to doubt your reason was clear when you made the "revelation" that you were an Atheist, as your reason has been murky with senility for years. Anything you say, even if it is the much anticipated, "God is dead to me," announcement, is inconsequential to me and should be just so for everyone else. Nothing you say is the product of anything other than a brain crippled from age.

Really, I wouldn't care at all if even the friggin' Pope declared he no longer believed in God. It's completely inconsequential to my own reasoning and the mountains of evidence that support my disbelief in gods. Even if the Pope admitted he was an Atheist, he would still have to attest and apologise for his sayings and actions against homosexuality and against AIDS prevention through sexual protection and many other harmful words, actions, and refusals of action that have helped spread worldwide intolerance and suffering. His evil work still stands.

The conversion of any other person or group of people to any other ideal will not sway my personal beliefs and my personal convictions. That's why they are called personal. When Motherfucker Teresa's lack of faith was recently made public, I may have blogged about it--I don't remember if I did, and I honestly don't care enough to check--but I couldn't have cared less. Whether or not she was a doubter, she was still a nasty, ignominious wretch. She was a vile twat who got her jollies off on watching people suffer and die while she refused them medical care and food, for which she had the money to purchase but spent the majority on better homes for her Mafia of nuns (I like that image.) and on plane trips around the world to meet with fascist dictators and kiss Princess Diana's over-rated arse. No, her admitted lack of faith did not change my opinion of this wrinkled slug.

If Christopher Hitchens converted to orthodox Judaism in an attempt to find his Jewish roots, renounced his old books and articles and voted for Hillary Clinton this year, it would not affect the quality of his work before his foray into madness. I would still get a kick out of reading god is not Great and I would still giggle at the subtitle, How Religion Poisons Everything. If Christopher Hitchens cut off his foreskin and joined the ranks of the yarmulked and curly-sideburned self-loathers at the Wailing Wall (mutilation, weird hair styles, chronic depression, bad, whiny music... is Hypothetical Hitchens converting to Judaism or Emoism?), would it make his attacks on Motherfucker Teresa and Henry Kissinger any less potent? Probably not.

If Richard Dawkins declared that he now believes that Yahweh created all things six thousand years ago and writes another book called Crocheting the Rainbow Back Together: How Darwin Destroyed the Beauty of Nature and Why Your Children are Going to Hell for Learning His Theory in School, would that convince me I'm wrong? Would it make my incessant re-reading of The Ancestor's Tale (seriously, the thing is held together with packing tape and the occasional daub of rubber cement) any less enjoyable? I don't think so.

So, the answer to the titular question of Hemant's post is this: No one's conversion matters to me at all. Nor should it. Human minds are fickle things and they tend to change opinions, but the words and actions of the humans who posses those minds, if recorded, will long outlive them, even if they rescind all their previous actions before they die. I won't let another person's change of opinion affect my life and the way I live it and I won't let another's sudden change of mind ruin the beauty of that person's previous work.


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Unorthodox Atheism is a daily blog written by Reed Braden, an Atheist, from Bible Belt, America. You may contact him at kingreedbraden@gmail.com or on AIM at ReedBraden.

Daylight Atheism: Book Review: The Portable Atheist

I was planning on writing a review of Christopher Hitchens' The Portable Atheist since I finished reading it a short while ago, but Ebonmuse of Daylight Atheism beat me to it with a review more elegant than the tripe I would have spewed, so here is his review in full with my further comments on the book.

(Author's Note: The following review was solicited and is written in accordance with this site's policy for such reviews.)

Summary: Not "essential" as its title claims, but a usefully broad sampling of atheist thought for the reader who wishes to be better versed in the voices of nonbelief.

The Portable Atheist, edited by Christopher Hitchens, is intended to serve as an introductory guide and perhaps an armamentarium for atheists. The book contains a wide variety of pieces, essays and poems - some original to this collection, most not - written by renowned freethinkers both modern and historical, all of them presenting the case for a godless cosmos in some fashion or another. Hitchens contributes a lengthy introduction, written with his usual brash flair, plus some brief remarks at the beginning of each chapter introducing us to the author featured therein. All in all, there are 47 different pieces, covering the history of dissenting thought from ancient writers like Lucretius, Spinoza and Hume to modern authors such as Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, and Ayaan Hirsi Ali. Of course, a writer of Hitchens' stature and contacts was able to secure the requisite permissions; his participation is very likely what made the book possible.

First, the good. One thing that made me especially happy was that, in addition to the prose, the book contained a fair number of freethought poems - some of which were written by authors whose atheist sympathies I had never known about. There's material in here to fill out at least a few more of my Poetry Sundays, and it's a wonderful and much-appreciated reminder that nonbelief can promote a flourishing art and culture, rather than just expressing itself in philosophical polemics.

In prose, there were many superb choices as well. To my mind, the standout pieces were:

  • a firecracker of an essay by George Eliot (about which more later);
  • a story of David Hume's last moments, written by a religious friend who hoped to see a deathbed conversion from the famous philosopher and went away disappointed;
  • an autobiographical piece by the great John Stuart Mill explaining how his father raised him as a nonbeliever;
  • a stinging, hilarious piece by Bertrand Russell satirizing the absurd beliefs of his day and of the past;
  • an excerpt from Farewell to God, the book written by Charles Templeton, Billy Graham's one-time preaching partner, explaining how he became an agnostic;
  • a lecture by Ian McEwan, "End of the World Blues", humorously and informatively lacerating the holders of apocalypse delusions through history;
  • and a powerful essay by Salman Rushdie, taking the form of an open letter to the recently-born six billionth human being, stressing the necessity of independent, critical thought and the danger the human species faces from dogma.

All of these are well worth reading, and certainly have the potential to broaden any nonbeliever's mind and give rise to a solid, literate, well-grounded atheism.

Now, the bad. Although for the most part I have no objection to Hitchens' choices, there are a few things I think could have been improved upon.

First - and to my mind the single most glaring omission - there's nothing in this book by Robert Ingersoll! How could any compendium of atheist thought through the ages not include the nineteenth century's most famous and eloquent freethinker? Ingersoll was a prolific author and composed many pieces that would have been eminently suitable to include here, ranging in tone from cutting polemics to laugh-out-loud satirical discourses. He drew huge crowds everywhere he went, he was a friend of the famous and the powerful, and he was undoubtedly the driving force behind America's "golden age" of freethought. I can only imagine that he was overlooked somehow; I hope a future edition, if there is one, will remedy this deficit.

Second: This book could have used more pieces by female authors. Out of forty-seven chapters, only four feature women: a cutting refutation of an evangelical author by George Eliot, a discourse on the philosophy of atheism by Emma Goldman, an essay on non-religious morality by Elizabeth Anderson, and a personal account of deconversion, original to this book, contributed by Ayaan Hirsi Ali.

All four are excellent choices - in particular, Eliot's razor-sharp dissection of the fallacies of a militant evangelical preacher would have made her right at home on Pharyngula or any of the other well-known blogs of today staffed by no-nonsense atheists, and in my mind was one of the highlights of the book. (The preacher's arguments themselves were almost identical to the ones we encounter all the time today from Christian apologists - it's sad to see how little has changed, but good to know that there have always been freethinkers ready to point up the flaws in orthodoxy.) And Hirsi Ali's account of her deconversion, though brief, was incredibly moving and was a perfect way to close out the book.

Still, there are many more female freethinkers who could have been featured here to offset this gross gender imbalance. How about historical authors such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton (like a selection from her "Woman's Bible"), Ernestine Rose, Margaret Sanger, or Madalyn Murray O'Hair? On the modern side, how about Susan Jacoby, Anne Laurie Gaylor, Taslima Nasrin, or Julia Sweeney?

Third: A few of the pieces here could have stood to be edited or removed altogether. The one that comes most prominently to mind is an excerpt from Thomas Hobbes' Leviathan. Admittedly, it does contain some suggestive arguments, but Hobbes strongly claimed to be a believer and we have no definite evidence to the contrary. The book could have stood to go without this one.

Also, by far the longest piece was an excerpt from Ibn Warraq's The Koran. The piece itself was fine, and it's a valuable thing that Hitchens prominently featured the writings of some ex-Muslims as well as nonbelievers coming from more Christian societies. However, much of this piece concentrated on critiquing the Old and New Testaments (to undercut the basis of Islamic belief), which made it seem somewhat out of place. It would have been better edited down to focus on the parts dealing with Islam, which many readers may be less familiar with.

In sum, this book was an imperfect but well-conceived and useful guide to the many voices of nonbelief throughout history. It's not essential reading for an atheist, if only because the arguments made by theists have changed little in hundreds of years, and so our replies haven't needed to change either. Any well-informed nonbeliever will already know how to deal with the religious fallacies challenged and criticized in this book. But it is a welcome introduction to some of history's most famous nonbelievers, including some who deserve to be better known. I look forward to seeing the few omissions in selection repaired in a revised edition (or maybe "The Portable Atheist, volume 2")?

I very much agree that there should have been more female voices heard in Mr. Hitchens' compendium of Atheist thought, and I'm most upset that Ayn Rand (who, Christopher revealed to me and a group of my friends in Washington D.C. last year, he is not highly fond of for certain reasons and lauds for others) was omitted. Her barbed voice and her opinions on the religious world would have made me content to read through a partial inventory that noticeably omits Madalyn Murray O'Hair, Margaret Sanger, and the other brilliant women you mentioned. I'm also a bit uneasy that you didn't mention her as one of the glaring omissions.

We apparently felt the same way about Ibn Warraq's piece. It was intelligent and well-formed, as is to be expected of the wonderful apostate, but it was far too long in comparison to some of the pieces that were circumcised (Hitchens will hate that I used that word) far too roughly and left too short. The section was sixty pages and then another essay by Warraq follows. If I wanted to read this much of Ibn Warraq, I would pull Why I Am Not a Muslim off my shelf and delve into it again.

I would disagree with you that these writings are not essential to a serious Atheist. While the arguments haven't changed much, it's a great comfort to those of us bombarded by religious nonsense to see that not only are other people dealing with this problem as well, but that this is not a new offence--that Atheists and other freethinkers through the ages have had to combat the same tired arguments that we face today. Also, it has much more of an impact, I think, in conversing with the religious, to quote Sigmund Freud, Mark Twain, Percy Bysshe Shelley or George Eliot than to quote, say, Richard Dawkins or Christopher Hitchens. Even when it's the same argument! These are the people, remember, who will take anything at more than its face value if it is over a century old!

Another thing that irritated me about Hitchens' selections is the brevity of his sections on H. L. Mencken and George Orwell. Hitchens has said many times before that Orwell would be his hero if he had such things and I am not the first to say that Hitchens is today's H. L. Mencken. To see these two brilliant authors spurned with short pieces that argued little saddened me.

It is so easy for me to brood about my dislikes, and I fear I have done so too long. Suffice it to say that I enjoyed this latest romp through Freethought history and I look forward to another, hopefully by the same literary master who gave us this one.


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What It Would Take…

I get roughly 3.49*10^53 emails every day and I usually can't respond to all of them, but a question from Anonymous Bill needs answering.
What would God have to do to get you to believe in him?
Funny you should ask that.

If God can make this entire schedule come to fruition exactly as I describe, a fairly easy task for the alleged creator of the bacterial flagellum, I will believe in him.

Friday, 11 Jan., 11PM EST - During my monologue at No Shame Theatre, when I print a visual aid to my performance on an onstage printer, the Ten Commandments will print instead of the intended photograph... with one glaring replacement: Commandment 9 will be replaced by "Thou can hast cookies."

Saturday, 12 Jan., 12 AM EST - When I leave the theatre, the black sports car I saw the other day with the vanity license plate "B1GP3N1S" will burst out of the Church Street parking garage and run over my grandmother, who will be attempting to make a surprise visit. My grandmother will be unhurt and the car will explode.

Sunday, 13 Jan., 3 PM PST - Dakota Fanning will narrowly escape being eaten by a lion in downtown Los Angeles, only to be eaten by a tiger of unnaturally large size.

Monday, 14 Jan. 12 PM EST - Christopher Hitchens will give up smoking and turn to Jesus, announcing that he will donate all of his money to starting a charity for the homeless in memory of Mother Teresa.

Tuesday, 15 Jan. 8 AM CST - A meteorite will crush through Barbara Streisand's skull, killing her immediately as she wanders the streets of Chicago, Illinois singing songs from John Kander and Fred Ebb.

Wednesday, 16 Jan. 9 AM EST - James Earl Jones will appear at my front door with a stack of newspapers chronicling the recent acts of God that I have predicted and ask me to pray to Jesus to save my soul. I will willingly oblige.

If any detail is omitted, God will be deemed incapable of following simple instructions and I will ridicule him further.

If none of these events happens, I will conclude that God is either non-existent or a dick.


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Are you that Intelligent Designer?



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Who Wants In on This Wager?

My school starts up today, but I have cancelled all of my classes and I plan to take a break from school this semester and work. I will be going back to school in the Fall.

My friend (I shall call him Hugh... because that is his name) doesn't believe I will go back to school in the Fall, and so he set up a wager: If I don't go back to school, I have to quit smoking. If I do go back to school, Hugh, a vegetarian/vegan of 8 years or some such nonsensical amount of time, has to eat a 14 oz steak.

I'm so confident in the fact that I will be going back to school in the Fall, that I want to extend this wager to my readers. Leave a comment and let me know what ridiculous and embarrassing thing you want me to do if I fail in going back to school in the Fall. I'll pick the most hilarious and put them up as a poll later on for everyone to decide my fate.


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Bush Begins Preparations For Nation’s Final Year

Bush Begins Preparations For Nations Final Year

The Onion

Bush Begins Preparations For Nation's Final Year

WASHINGTON-The president assured citizens he would do everything possible over next few months to promote a smooth transition into utter oblivion.

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Pulling a Pat Robertson


Robertson Style
Link 1 Link 2 Link 3

Art Bell's predictions


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Poll Results

I had a poll on the side of my blog for a few months on whether or not people would vote for me for totalitarian dictator of earth.

I will vote for Reed Braden as Totalitarian Dictator of Earth on 2 Nov 2036. - 18%
I will vote for Reed Braden as Totalitarian Dictator of Earth on 2 Nov 2036, but only because I have no choice. - 15%
I will not vote for Reed Braden as Totalitarian Dictator of Earth on 2 Nov 2036, even though I know Reed will destroy his opponents and win by default. - 26%
I am Reed Braden and thus ineligible to vote, but I will vote anyway. - 30%

Wow... I didn't know that there were so many "mes" out there. This must be one of those cases where a guy is so cool that crazy people think they are really that other guy, i.e. Elvis, Napoleon, Jesus. I'm glad to know that I'm cool enough for 30% of my readers to emulate.

No... I am Spartacus.


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Removal Notice

When I posted the news about the RRS slander, I said there were only two people in the world that could make me take the news down. They both emailed me in the past 24 hours and one of them asked me to remove the posts.

Let it be known that I still hold Richard Dawkins in the highest of regards and do not believe a word that the RRS said about him, and I hold the Rational Response Squad in the greatest contempt and my removal of these posts had nothing to do with those pan troglodytic boobs (quite literally in the case of one of the higher-ups).


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No Comments on RRS

I don't think there is anything new that can be said about the RRS issue, so I am going to stop accepting comments on these posts unless something new happens.

The comment sections have turned into breeding grounds for ad hominim attacks and name-calling against other commenters.


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TSHF Podcast: Episode One is Published

The Two Smokin' Hot Freethinkers Podcast is up and running.


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More Threats From the “Rational” Response Squad

[04-Jan-08 7:24:13 PM] Rational Response Squad says: the second blog about it has been posted, this one highlighting RDF a little more: http://atheismsucks.blogspot.com/2008/01/did-rational-response-squad-claim.html
FWIW: Many of our fans read that hate blog site, and they geerally trust our side of the story
so you've just told the whole world what you think to be untrue and would clearly hurt RDF if there were even the slightest chance that we were telling you the truth
amongst those that know us we're very trusted
i get the feeling you are a christian of some sort masquerading
I will likely file suit against you in the future.
as it's only gonna become a bigger story.
says: also posting of my message with you in a public forum was a federal crime
[12:22:33 AM] Reed Braden says: Really, you need to get over yourself. You used to ride Dawkins to fame and now that's gone. A Skype chat is not privileged information, nor is it secret unless a written pact between the two people chatting is made and logged, stating that it is private. Private message are made public all the time. Mark Foley and all those guys from To Catch a Predator can attest to that. I told you not to contact me and you created another account to do so after I blocked your other username. That's certainly more of a crime than posting information sent to me with no pact of privacy. This will also be posted, although I see no relevance or reason to do so: I think it will make my blog prettier.

I bolded the line that made me laugh the most.


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You wanted proof….

[6:29:53 PM] Reed Braden says: Hi there.
[6:30:08 PM] Brian Sapient says: i thought you said our conversation was confidential? also you said you supported dawkins, why would you write that and let the meme get out there?
[6:30:53 PM] Brian Sapient says: i believe you have just let a bad course of blogs set in motion
[6:30:59 PM] Reed Braden says: With no signed contract, all bets are off when the conversation becomes slanderous.
[6:31:06 PM] Brian Sapient says: within 24 hours 10 prominent christian sites will accuse dawkins of this
[6:31:14 PM] Reed Braden says: A bad course for you, yes.
[6:31:27 PM] Reed Braden says: I don't see why.
[6:31:28 PM] Brian Sapient says: we can stand by what we say, this hurts rdf
[6:31:44 PM] Reed Braden says: Why would a Christian site trust info that came from you?
[6:31:46 PM] Brian Sapient says: if you really cared about slander you'd just write rdf
[6:31:49 PM] Brian Sapient says: not the public
[6:32:04 PM] Brian Sapient says: guarantee 2 blogs will have it within 12 hours
[6:32:10 PM] Brian Sapient says: i'll link you when they come in
[6:32:10 PM] Reed Braden says: And it hurts Richard Dawkins to slander him, not to publicly support him
[6:32:14 PM] Brian Sapient says: then the meme spreads
[6:32:22 PM] Reed Braden says: They might have the story, and so what?
[6:32:31 PM] Reed Braden says: Dawkins can handle the allegations.
[6:32:32 PM] Brian Sapient says: viral enemy, theists will use it, claim to trust it, only because it hurts rdf (and or us)
[6:33:04 PM] Brian Sapient says: if you believe he can, i think that is what you will have to live with down the road if he can't.
[6:33:07 PM] Reed Braden says: And any one of us who has the source of the information (you) can easily show that the source is so weak it undermines the whole argument.
[6:33:26 PM] Brian Sapient says: i'm not discussing it with you
[6:33:30 PM] Reed Braden says: Sorry to say this, but even gullible theists who take everything literally won't trust what comes out of your mouth.
[6:33:36 PM] Reed Braden says: You seem to be.
[6:33:50 PM] Brian Sapient says: guaranteed I know someone who will blog it and make it appear true
[6:34:17 PM] Brian Sapient says: they have google alerts on prominent atheists
[6:34:17 PM] Reed Braden says: Okay... and I know many more who can defend Dawkins much more elegantly than I can.
[6:34:30 PM] Brian Sapient says: with what?
[6:34:37 PM] Reed Braden says: I have Google Alerts on Dawkins as well and I can read their tripe
[6:34:43 PM] Brian Sapient says: how can someone prove that RD is NOT having an affair?
[6:34:49 PM] Reed Braden says: Hmm... Slate.com ring any bells?
[6:34:50 PM] Brian Sapient says: it sort of like proving there is no god
[6:35:18 PM] Brian Sapient says: i don't see any defense that anyone could really use for him
[6:35:22 PM] Brian Sapient says: not a good one at least
[6:35:28 PM] Brian Sapient says: you didn't think this through
[6:35:37 PM] Reed Braden says: Well, the can prove that the person spreading the accusation has an axe to grind and is untrustworthy.
[6:35:47 PM] Brian Sapient says: if you were mad and wanted to do us wrong, you could have at least saved RDF the public stress
[6:35:52 PM] Reed Braden says: I thought it through long and hard.
[6:36:26 PM] Reed Braden says: You're trying to make me feel bad and guilty. It's not working. Dawkins is a big boy and he can handle your tiny slander.
[6:36:29 PM] Brian Sapient says: i hope you reconsider sending the message directly to rdf, i can live with the consequences, i suggest you pull it from the web
[6:36:32 PM] Reed Braden says: He gets slander all the time.
[6:36:39 PM] Brian Sapient says: seriously
[6:36:45 PM] Brian Sapient says: look at what im saying
[6:36:51 PM] Brian Sapient says: send it to em if you have to
[6:36:52 PM] Reed Braden says: I suggest you stop trying to save your own ass.
[6:36:56 PM] Brian Sapient says: just pull it from the web
[6:37:10 PM] Brian Sapient says: you have slandered too, u don't realize that?
[6:37:16 PM] Reed Braden says: Are you trying to pressure me into self-censoring?
[6:37:27 PM] Brian Sapient says: no, have your views
[6:37:29 PM] Reed Braden says: I just reported what i saw.
[6:37:39 PM] Brian Sapient says: just dont hurt rdf if your goal is to help it
[6:37:45 PM] Brian Sapient says: if your goal is to hurt it, you've done fine
[6:37:52 PM] Reed Braden says: The only possible slander is "Kelly's Tits", but she seems to be proud enough of them.
[6:37:58 PM] Brian Sapient says: no that's not
[6:38:05 PM] Brian Sapient says: that's parody
[6:38:08 PM] Brian Sapient says: perfectly legal
[6:38:15 PM] Reed Braden says: You're the one who is hurting RDF. I'm hurting no one but you and your credibility.
[6:38:23 PM] Reed Braden says: I said "possible"
[6:38:41 PM] Brian Sapient says: you are the only group that story was ever conveyed to, and would have been the only group ever
[6:39:05 PM] Reed Braden says: I doubt that.
[6:39:13 PM] Brian Sapient says: i'd still keep my mouth shut too, but know you force me to defend what i said when someone asks me
[6:39:18 PM] Reed Braden says: But you have to admit. (And remember, I'm gay... I'm no threat) Kelly has nice ones. And, that said, I think we're done here.
[6:39:40 PM] Reed Braden says: You said what you said. I forced you to give evidence. You didn't. Bye.
[6:39:59 PM] Brian Sapient says: you understand this isn't abnout me and you right?
[6:40:06 PM] Brian Sapient says: theists want this info
[6:40:14 PM] Reed Braden says: It's false info.
[6:40:16 PM] Brian Sapient says: they'll accept it
[6:40:18 PM] Reed Braden says: It's speculation.
[6:40:20 PM] Reed Braden says: It's faith.
[6:40:23 PM] Brian Sapient says: they'll accept it
[6:40:28 PM] Brian Sapient says: they'll talk about it
[6:40:35 PM] Brian Sapient says: a divorce could happen
[6:40:41 PM] Brian Sapient says: it's bad what you did
[6:40:43 PM] Brian Sapient says: really bad
[6:40:50 PM] Brian Sapient says: link me
[6:40:59 PM] Reed Braden says: So? That doesn't make it true, nor does it make his work any less potent, nor will it ring true to Lalla. I'm sure she knows her husband is loyal.
[6:41:03 PM] Brian Sapient says: i'll point out slander if it means you'd take it down.
[6:41:14 PM] Reed Braden says: Is that a threat?
[6:41:19 PM] Brian Sapient says: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[6:41:26 PM] Brian Sapient says: you don't know
[6:41:31 PM] Reed Braden says: No, I do.
[6:41:36 PM] Brian Sapient says: ok
[6:41:43 PM] Reed Braden says: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[6:41:51 PM] Reed Braden says: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[6:41:54 PM] Brian Sapient says: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[6:42:20 PM] Reed Braden says: You're just miffed that RDFRS won't let you follow Prof. Dawkins anymore and you're trying to get the woman who cock-blocked you fired.
[6:42:26 PM] Brian Sapient says: i only hope to sway you to understand this will hurt rdf, and you claim that you support him, this seems hypocritical
[6:42:28 PM] Reed Braden says: So, like I said, I'm done here.
[6:42:30 PM] Reed Braden says: Bye.
[6:42:57 PM] Brian Sapient says: reed, that's fine... you can send that message to rdf if you want, i can take the heat
[6:43:07 PM] Brian Sapient says: i don't think you should have rdf take the heat
[6:43:51 PM] Brian Sapient says: you realize if a slander case is brought on us, i'd have to sue you for the same in order to clear myself? (and I would) And it's not a threat, it''s how the law would work.
[6:44:21 PM] Brian Sapient says: please reconsider
[6:44:28 PM] Brian Sapient says: i'm not trying to be mean
[6:44:35 PM] Brian Sapient says: sorry you've not liken us
[6:44:43 PM] Brian Sapient says: or don't like us
[6:44:45 PM] Brian Sapient says: or trust us
[6:44:53 PM] Brian Sapient says: but please consider it for the benefit of richard
[6:45:03 PM] Brian Sapient says: it could get ugly for him, you know that
[6:45:07 PM] Brian Sapient says: i hope you do
[6:46:47 PM] Brian Sapient says: if u see a christian blog it, would you pull it?
[6:47:03 PM] Reed Braden says: No. I will rebut it. Good night.
[6:47:19 PM] Brian Sapient says: there you go... he blogged it...
[6:47:20 PM] Brian Sapient says: http://rationalresponders.blogspot.com/2008/01/atheists-say-its-time-to-drop-rational.html
[6:47:35 PM] Brian Sapient says: that's a guy we're currently taking to federal court for libel
[6:47:41 PM] Brian Sapient says: and cybersquatting
[6:48:01 PM] Brian Sapient says: now he's got hundreds of pastors and shit that eat up everything he says
[6:48:10 PM] Brian Sapient says: and then shit hits fan for rd
[6:48:16 PM] Brian Sapient says: way to go kid
[6:48:30 PM] Brian Sapient says: clearly the dumbest move i've seen an atheist make in all my years of activism
[6:48:36 PM] Brian Sapient says: at least on the scale of enormity
[6:48:40 PM] Reed Braden says: Actually, this article is about you. Not Richard. This is exactly what I wanted.
[6:48:52 PM] Reed Braden says: So please stop messaging me. I don't want to have to block you.
[6:49:10 PM] Brian Sapient says: every blog he's written looks like that idiot
[6:49:28 PM] Brian Sapient says: he would've had some other subject matter if it wasn't this
[6:49:32 PM] Brian Sapient says: look at his post yesterday
[6:49:45 PM] Brian Sapient says: have of it are lies
[6:50:02 PM] Brian Sapient says: you don't see, you brought rd into the heat
[6:50:06 PM] Brian Sapient says: im already on it
[6:50:10 PM] Brian Sapient says: it's what i do for a living
[6:50:12 PM] Brian Sapient says: sit on it
[6:50:15 PM] Brian Sapient says: i can take it all day
[6:50:19 PM] Brian Sapient says: he can't
[6:50:24 PM] Brian Sapient says: not that kind of hear
[6:50:27 PM] Brian Sapient says: heatr
[6:50:31 PM] Brian Sapient says: that's scandalous
[6:51:19 PM] Brian Sapient says: you could have written a public article about us without some of the details and still come out "against us."
[6:51:26 PM] Brian Sapient says: and fired off the letter to rdf
[6:51:39 PM] Brian Sapient says: then you would've done your supposed good deed for the day
[6:52:00 PM] Brian Sapient says: this is one deed i hope you remember for a long time, it was a bad move kiddo
[6:52:10 PM] Reed Braden says: You're irritating. I'm blocking you.


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Why I Can’t Trust Rational Response Squad

"If this news gets out, Richard Dawkins will be nothing tomorrow."
- Brian Sapient
Brian Sapient and Kelly's Tits approached me on Skype to join a conference call with some aggrieved chatters. The conversation was extremely disturbing and lasted over an hour... an hour in which I am ashamed to say, I was all too gullible for most of. I don't want to assume too much, but they sounded drunk and I'm not the only one who thinks so.

They gave us some very juicy gossip involving Richard Dawkins and his personal life... and, thank Hitchens, it was 100% grade-A horse shit.

Under the pretences that they were wronged in the RDFRS forum, and without revealing who they were for the longest time, they riled up members of the call to believe that they had privileged information about where Richard Dawkins' penis goes when he's on the road.

Finally, we realised who they were, and most of the members of the conference call knew about the history of Richard's new foundation management (Dawkins' "new handlers," as Kelly's Tits called them) cock-blocking RRS from riding the coattails of Professor Dawkins into pseudo-stardom any further. They had an obvious axe to grind against their accusers and The Good Professor Himself. Realising we had abandoned our scepticism in the shock of the "news," we quickly regained rationality and demanded evidence, only to receive idle remarks about how they couldn't tell us because it was confidential, even with names omitted. As if Richard Dawkins having an affair was less important, in regards to confidentiality, than where that information came from or what evidence backs it up.

From that moment on, no one in the call believed a word they said and our repeated requests for evidence for their claims were flatly denied or slaked by half-assed appeals to emotion. "Well, our being so quick to trust is what got us into trouble with the Foundation in the first place. We just thought we could trust a group of rational Atheists like this." ... I'm an actor. I've worked in politics. I know liars. And sweet-talking appeals to emotion and flattery are generally the last acts of desperate liars.

They wanted a certain Richard Dawkins Foundation member gone and they almost found a way to do so... if only their motives weren't so visible and their acting so bad.

Let me clarify once more: what Brian Sapient and Kelly's Tits said is all horse shit and they will probably say it elsewhere as well. There is no reason to believe that Richard Dawkins is having an affair with anyone... if you aren't a psychotic stalker who's pissed that you've been cock-blocked by the same person you are now groundlessly accusing of fucking Richard Dawkins. I cannot say this enough: It didn't happen. There is no evidence at all to believe that anyone other than Lalla is being intimate with Professor Dawkins, and the only two people in the world who believe otherwise have an axe to grind with the woman they are accusing and don't care about ruining the reputation--and possibly the marriage--of the greatest living evolutionary biologist on the planet.

Once, among a crowd of sheep and with the blessings of Brian Sapient, I went on the Internet and spoke: "I deny the Holy Spirit." Now, I'm proud to say: "I hung up on Brian Sapient."

It's sad. Rational Response Squad was cool for a while... but now desperation has shown them for the power hungry attention-whores that they are. They tried to glean information about Richard Dawkins by lying to a group of rag-tag geeks on a Skype chat. I would actually pity them if I could.

Update: I was told that in publishing this, I am sinking rather low. I don't see how I can sink any farther than I already have after publicly supporting the Iraq War and Rudy Giuliani. If RRS is going to sink so low, they shouldn't fuck with someone who's already lower than that.


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Advice for Jeremy

Jeremy, author of the blog Endcycle, is scared of losing his two daughters to their alcoholic, religious mother in a custody suit that should be nothing more than trivial. However, Jeremy is afraid that the courts may find him an unsuitable parent because he did not raise his children to be religious as he previously said he would.

He is most scared by an article recently published in Time about a couple in New Jersey who was deemed unfit to raise a young girl, their would-be second adopted child, because they did not believe in any god.

Jeremy asks, "I was wondering if you or your readers would have any input, if that's not asking too much."


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Response to A Christian’s Blog

I left a comment on one of Arthur's posts a while back in reply to a Christian commenter. He responded on his blog (named A Christian's Blog, an original title of obviously divine inspiration) and I threw up in my mouth a little bit as I read through it, pushing my way past the smarm.

Well, the best way to fight smarm is with more smarm, so I'm going to jump right into this thing.
The major reason why different people can have vastly different interpretations of the bible is because they are too lazy to follow a sound, reasonable, objective method of interpretation and to get all the necessary background information. Different interpretations are not equally valid as the relativist claims, because we can approach the bible differently.
Translation: The major reason why people interpret my vague holy book differently than me is because they are lazy and don't truly understand the Bible as well as I do, nor do they share my direct phone line with the author of this ancient book. I just rock hard like that. It couldn't possibly be that the book was written so vaguely that anyone could interpret it any way they choose to. The god of the universe would never write a book that was that vague.
For example, if I want to prove that the bible is a source of fanatical evil, like a belligerent atheist, I would go about it as follows:

- completely ignore the fact that some literary styles are not meant to be taken literally
Ask yourself something: If you were the god and creator of the universe and you only had about 1,500 pages of text (depending on what version and edition you read) to communicate to your chosen people everything they need to know, wouldn't you write the text to be taken literally, not wasting valuable communication time on riddles and allegories that, of course, your blind followers would take literally.
- completely ignore the cultural, socio-political and socio-economic dimensions of the time when the text was written; ignore the intended audience. These may may have a bearing on interpretation, depending on whether selected verses are examples of some timeless principle, rather than a statement of general principle, etc.
Ask yourself something else: If you were the god and creator of the universe and you only had about 1,500 pages of text (depending on what version and edition you read) to communicate to your chosen people everything they need to know, wouldn't you write it in such a way that it would apply to all people of all time? If you were only going to write the two instalments (or, if you concede the Book of Mormon, the trilogy), wouldn't you make it such that it would apply to all people who would ever read it since you weren't going to publish a new edition every hundred years or so? Do you, as a god, not have that kind of foresight? Why would you write to just that generation and not the generation of today as well? Why not add something that the people of the ancient Arab Peninsula wouldn't understand, but we would today? Something like, "And ye, the generations to come, shall have weapons that send small suns to devour cities, but thou shalt not use them." That would certainly have been a wise thing to put in the Bible. He could have deleted one of the more unnecessary verses (Do we really need to know that 42 children were once mauled by bears?) and replaced it with that useful piece of knowledge. Does God really need to gloat about slaughtering children so much that it takes precedence over preventing nuclear holocaust?
- deliberately avoid all verses that when taken literally are contrary or contradictory to my argument
I'm afraid I would need more clarification on what you mean by this, but I don't think any of the very few verses that, when taken literally, are neither incorrect or evil contradict my argument. My argument is that your god is make-believe and your Bible is wrong. For instance, that Jesus was spot-on in Matthew 7:12 is not a threat to my argument that the book, as a whole, is rubbish.
- take a few phrases out of context and place them in a new context (my context of fanatical evil)
- do not quote my selected phrases on their own, paraphrase; do not reference them back to biblical context with hyperlinks
- mix my selected phrases with supposedly authoritative interpretations of those phrases by others -- only those interpretations that support my argument
- present a theology based on only some parts of the bible or a theology that assumes only part of what I present is true (e.g. God created hell, but he didn't send his son to prevent us from going to hell)
You whine a lot. Have you met Trey? You two would get along well.
- mix my selected phrases with my bullshit -- I'm not here to genuinely, sincerely, humbly learn from others. I'm here to try to make others look bad. I'll ask insincere, loaded, rhetorical questions just to waste your time and irritate you -- the last thing I want is an honest answer. The benefit of the doubt is arrogated to me, the critic, not given to the document itself.
I don't know what you just said, but I think you made an admission of what we already knew.
Here's an example that exhibits some of the deception methods above.
The following bold text is my comment, quoted in full.
Something Paul said that I take issue with:Paul, you claim Jesus' teachings to be moral.

Until Jesus borrowed Hell from the Greeks' Hades, Yahweh was comfortable torturing people on this earth and then just letting them die. But Jesus, ever so masochistically, allegedly invented the concept of eternal, unquenchable, insufferable punishment for the mere "sin" of not believing in what no trustworthy evidence has ever shown.Explain to me the morality in this Nero-esque ultimatum of "Devote every ounce of your life to me, without question, even though I cannot provide any real evidence that I am who I say I am, or burn, not for a trillion trillion trillion years, but for an infinite amount of time."

That's one of the most horrible concepts anyone can conjure up: unimaginable pain for unimaginable time, and it came (allegedly) right out of the teachings of gentle Jesus, meek and mild.Too bad Herod didn't find the baby, else we may have been spared that lovely piece of theology.

Also, how is it moral for God to send himself to be tortured and killed for us when we didn't ask for him to, nor would any of us wanted him to if we were there. If he's judge and jury of our supposed souls, who is he trying to impress? It certainly doesn't seem moral at all to waste time on planning an elaborate snuff job and force all of your followers to genuflect to effigies of a bloody and mangled body when you, as God, could simply forgive all sins without that whole charade.

And don't even get me started on original sin! What an awful and immoral concept!
Let's talk about this bullshit. I'll give the author the benefit of the doubt and assume that he has actually read the bible. That may in fact be giving him far too much leniency, especially since he doesn't cite first-hand evidence (the bible) in support of his view.
Two answer your implied question, I have read, in full, the King James Version, the New King James Version, the New International Version, the New American Standard Version, The Living Bible and The Message. I've also read The Brothers Karamazov, Atlas Shrugged, War and Peace, Pride and Prejudice, Bertrand Russell's The History of Western Philosophy and The Berenstain Bears Meet Santa Bear, but even without having read any books at all, anyone with half a brain and a childhood of listening to weekly sermons and Sunday school "education" can easily spot the weakest areas of Christian theology, coincidentally the most visible areas of the theology as well.
-- Jesus borrowed Hell from the Greeks' Hades
What an unethical plagiariser! Is the the insinuation the author is trying to make?
Yes.
But seriously, don't presume that copycatting has occurred just because a concept found in one culture is similar to another concept found in another culture. You're probably not genuinely interested in the truth, but just let it be known that the Old Testament was translated to Greek in the 3rd century BC. Rather than use the Hebrew word "Sheol" for "abode of the dead" or "underworld", the translators used the Greek word "Hades". Sheol was not like that of the Greeks' Hades, and it existed long before the conquest of the Near East by the Greeks -- it's found in the Old Testament in numerous places. When Jesus talks of Hades he is referring to a place where souls await judgement before going to Heaven or Hell (Luke 16:19-31, John 5:28-29, Acts 2:31, Rev 20:13). In the New Testament that which is called "eternal fire", "lake of fire", "unquenchable fire" or "eternal punishment" (e.g. Matt 25:41-46) is more like a part of the Greeks' Hades -- depending on whose version of Hades you use, although not the same. It too can be traced back to the Old Testament (Isaiah 66:24, Daniel 12:2), as well as Jewish apocryphal texts.
The Jews had a few text referencing a hell-like place, yes, but a very negligible amount of ancient Jews believed in hell. Perhaps they are just interpreting their own texts differently from your infallible interpretation? Anyhoo, the Jews' version of hell was not a mystical place that one went to after death. It was a state that a living human was said to be in while on this earth if they strayed from G-d and the Law of Moses. There was always the possibility to return to G-d while in this state on earth... but death meant only death to the ancient Jews.

The concept of eternal punishment for unbelievers and other sinners is clearly Greek. It appears in no clear form in the Old Testament and does not arrive until Jesus got into a hissy fit over people who doubted his divinity and cursed them to an eternity of torment in an imaginary lake of fire, presumably located between the equally imaginary Bubblegum Forest and the Heineken Beer Waterfall of Destiny.

Also, I found it interesting that you would quote apocryphal Old Testament texts to support your argument. Does this open the door for me to quote New Testament apocrypha to support my argument that if Jesus actually existed, he killed a boy in his youth, was possibly bisexual, and had a wife?
-- Yahweh was comfortable torturing people on this earth and then just letting them die
You're correct, we find that in Wanker 34: 11 [indignant sarcasm]. If you had elaborated on this I might have given a more substantial reply.
Is it not self-explanatory, given what I had previously said (and what I just reinforced) about the ancient Jews being a hell-less people? God was a malevolent prick who tortured people on this earth by sending his troglodytic army of Jews to rape, pillage and murder cities of unbelievers. Then Jesus came along and introduced hell. God didn't get less violent after Jesus came, he just moved his judgement and wrath from the finite denizens of earth to the new infinite denizens of hell.
-- But Jesus, ever so masochistically, allegedly invented the concept of eternal, unquenchable, insufferable punishment for the mere "sin" of not believing in what no trustworthy evidence has ever shown
The (Hebrew) concept of Hell existing before God's incarnation in Jesus, but it is correct to say that God created Hell through Christ -- originally for Satan and his angels, not for man (Matt 25:41). I suppose what no trustworthy evidence has ever shown refers to Jesus Christ and/or God. You are making an epistemological argument here. God has made himself as clear as light (John 1:9), in his creation (Rom 1:20), in our consciences (Rom 2:13-15), in the person of Jesus Christ and his miracles, and elsewhere, but your ideology won't permit belief.
You stole and abused the Jewish concept of hell (as I explained, not a place but a state of being), so I'm going to steal and use something