Monthly Archive for August, 2011

Secular Europe Campaign September 2011



The Secular Europe website has a summery of information of the privileges the Vatican enjoys.

It's easy to fall into the Dan Brown style of conspiracy thinking about the Vatican, but recent history has shown that it can't be trusted, and is a blight on the human race. Of course some people will always defend it, no matter if it be child abuse being the fault of modern society, Nazi gold,  or lies about condoms in Africa.
 

Why March? For the promotion of:

  • freedom of religion, freedom of conscience and freedom of speech
  • women’s equality and reproductive rights
  • equal rights for LGBT people in all the European Union
  • a secular Europe – democratic, peaceful, open and just, immune to the clandestine influence of privileged religious (or other) organisations
  • one law for all, no religious exemptions from the law
  • state neutrality in matters of religion and belief

 Opposing:

  • the privileged status of the churches under Article 17 of the TFEU (Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union)
  • the special status of the Vatican in the United Nations
  • state-funded faith schools
  • the economic privilege and political influence of the Vatican

The Campaign has a number of Videos up on YouTube   This one from Stephen Law is my favorite and pertinent to everyone in regards to religious based education.






Nearly 20,000 people attended the Protest the Pope rally in London last year protest against the State Visit of Pope Benedict in the UK,to demand an end to religious privileges and ask that European institutions remain secular.

The Internet (well mostly Facebook) is slowly drawing people together, protesters and activists are coming together and sharing information like never before. Secularists, Humanists and Atheists are finally finding a voice, and realising they can make a change for the better.



‘Secularism is the only way to protect people of all different religions and those with none. It is vital that everyone who believes in liberal democracy and who values human rights comes on the march in September to show their support. If you want to defend women’s rights, children’s rights, the rights of gay people, human and reproductive rights, then march with us this September and let people see that we object to the influence of religion within the law and on the state.’  - Marco Tranchino coordinator of the Secular Europe Campaign

God Is a Man-Made Invention

adaptation of Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel ceiling by Tom Blackwell

J. Anderson Thomson is a psychiatrist at the University of Virginia. In a recent LA Times opinion post he expounds on the biological reasons we humans created the idea of God in the first place, and what role that belief serves psychologically.

I find these reasons for faith fascinating, and I see how they have been present in my own life.

Like our physiological DNA, the psychological mechanisms behind faith evolved over the eons through natural selection. They helped our ancestors work effectively in small groups and survive and reproduce, traits developed long before recorded history, from foundations deep in our mammalian, primate and African hunter-gatherer past.

For example, we are born with a powerful need for attachment, identified as long ago as the 1940s by psychiatrist John Bowlby and expanded on by psychologist Mary Ainsworth. Individual survival was enhanced by protectors, beginning with our mothers. Attachment is reinforced physiologically through brain chemistry, and we evolved and retain neural networks completely dedicated to it. We easily expand that inborn need for protectors to authority figures of any sort, including religious leaders and, more saliently, gods. God becomes a super parent, able to protect us and care for us even when our more corporeal support systems disappear, through death or distance.

Among the psychological adaptations related to religion are our need for reciprocity, our tendency to attribute unknown events to human agency, our capacity for romantic love, our fierce “out-group” hatreds and just as fierce loyalties to the in groups of kin and allies. Religion hijacks these traits.

In addition to these adaptations, humans have developed the remarkable ability to think about what goes on in other people’s minds and create and rehearse complex interactions with an unseen other. In our minds we can de-couple cognition from time, place and circumstance. We consider what someone else might do in our place; we project future scenarios; we replay past events. It’s an easy jump to say, conversing with the dead or to conjuring gods and praying to them.

I know (quite acutely, in fact) that I have a great need for attachment and a sense of another authority; I also possess a tendency to be intuitive or over-analytical about what someone else is thinking and feeling. I have certainly assigned motives and reasons to events that have no human agent.

All of these factors only encompass what I know consciously about myself and how faith has played a role in my life in the past. The chemistry of my brain and the more subtle evolutionary reasons for belief--well, those cannot be controlled. I can only use my reasoning and understanding to choose a different reaction when confronted with the concepts of a great “Other” or supernatural events.

“God”  and faith are crafted to fulfill some of our needs and natural inclinations. They are presented to us as a catch-all solution to these inborn “problems.” Do you need love and someone to care for you? God will do it! Do you have a tendency to cling to a group and fear the “others?” Religion is perfect for you!  Do you get that tingly feeling that someone is in the room with you when you meditate? That’s a god!

This, of course, doesn’t mean gods are real, but it does illustrate that we have a desire to answer questions and fulfill needs that come naturally to us. When we supply imaginary beings as the answer to the human condition, we’re doing ourselves and our descendants a disservice. It’s much more difficult to see the world objectively and accept the fact that we’re on our own, but it’s empowering and spurs on positive change in society. Why take personal responsibility when it’s much more comforting to know someone else is in charge of the rules who wants us to succeed? Because we will be a better, more altruistic society if we take charge of our actions and how they affect others.

We can be better as a species if we recognize religion as a man-made construct. We owe it to ourselves to at least consider the real roots of religious belief, so we can deal with life as it is, taking advantage of perhaps our mind’s greatest adaptation: our ability to use reason.

I agree!

Episode CCL: A brief musical interlude

One of the members of this band, Quiet Company, sent me a copy of their latest album, which he said was a personal concept record about his journey from belief to disbelief — I like the idea. And then I listened to it, and I liked the music, too! So here you go, a sample of one song from the album, and if you’re interested, you can look for more on their website.

(Last edition of TET)


Sean Faircloth’s Upcoming Book

Sean Faircloth, Executive Director of the Secular Coalition for America, has a book coming out in early 2012! It’s called Attack of the Theocrats! How the Religious Right Harms Us All — and What We Can Do About It. I’ve only seen the cover but I’m already excited — sorry for the blurry image but it’s the best one I could find:

The foreword is written by Richard Dawkins and a preview of the content can be found at Pitchstone Publishing’s website.

Obviously, more information on this book will be coming soon…

It BUGS me…

I'm seeing more and more zoos with dinosaur displays. Dinosaurs are cool. They bring people into zoos, but I think they send the wrong message.

My first experience with dinosaurs at zoos was at the Buffalo Zoo;


the center display for the zoo (which had been a prairie dog town when I was younger) was now a giant sandbox where kids could dig for dinosaur bones.  I suppose in many ways it's no different from this activity at the Rochester Museum and science center, where kids did the same:


But the difference, to my mind, is that the museum is to educate about the past and the science uncovering the past and the zoo is where we talk about existing life and the conservation there-of.  It seems to me that the only reason to put a dinosaur pit in a zoo is to attract numbers, which I suppose you could do also by taking out half the animals and putting in rides, games, and clowns.

If you can't tell, I'm solidly AGAINST dinosaurs in zoos, except for these:

Birds: now classified as dinosauria
Now I love our BioPark model... a comprehensive biological park, and the zoo is only one part of it, but we know what kids love almost as much as they love dinosaurs:  BUGS!

It seems to me that bugs are more consistent with the goals of zoos and biological parks.  So I was thrilled that the Albuquerque BioPark is developing a "Bugorium", which will be near the current butterfly pavilion.

This Friday I'll be able to see the first step of the program: the newly completed dragonfly sanctuary pond, and a mosaic art piece that will highlight the new area in the facility.

In the past I've blogged and photographed some of the invertebrates in the collection: millipedes, assassin bugs, spiders, hissing cockroaches, stick insects and other creepy crawlies, and I'm glad to see that the BioPark is working toward a permanent home for all these creatures, where the public will be able to view them on a daily basis.

Because, honestly? Bugs are SO much cooler than dinosaurs!






Talking About Maths with Jamila Bey

Last month, I did an interview with Jamila Bey for The Voice of Russia radio in which we talked about how to get math students to think more critically and creatively in American public schools. (In other words, this has nothing to do with atheism.)

If you’re interested, you can listen to the interview here. Good luck getting over your discomfort with the word “Maths” :)

I gave a similar talk at the 2011 Secular Student Alliance Conference last month (and I’ll be doing a longer, modified version of it at Skepticon IV in November) — video’s not available yet, but I’ll post it when it is.

1minion continues debating 5 year old article

I’d found this article Interpretation versus belief a couple weeks ago and I thought it’d be fun to write a response from the atheist point of view. This is part two. (Read part 1)

Phillip Owens argues that the bible needs no interpretation; it just needs to be believed word for word. I, of course, have a problem with this. I think interpretation is unavoidable and absolutely necessary. The trouble comes in how people interpret the bloody thing, not the fact that they interpret it in the first place. People seek to find meaning in everything, usually. It’s inevitable that they’d want to find meaning in this book since they’ve set their entire lives toward following it in some manner. They want purpose. They want lessons. They want explanations. Sometimes they want justifications. And sometimes they want permission to be complete and utter bastards. There are interpretations that gear themselves to any and all kinds of desires, whether terrific or fearfully terrible. I can see why Owens find this problematic, because it is. But I think his solution is quite silly and impossible to manage. For him, all you really need is the faith. The belief. Believe what you read and question nothing.

Why then don’t people “understand” this? Likely it is because of all the consequences. If Jesus is God’s Son, all He says is significant — it is authorative. His Words are true, morality is important, how we deal with each other has eternal bearing, and He will judge us in the final day (John 12:48). We should therefore live our lives according to His teaching. Therefore, Jesus’ being God’s Son is not so much interpretation as it is belief!

I can agree with part of that but what part of Jesus’ beliefs translate into believers being the best people they can possibly be? If Jesus truly meant “love thy neighbours as yourself” then why spew so much vitriol at gays or atheists? Unless “neighbour” wasn’t the word used by him back then and he really meant for followers to only love those in their local tribe only and continue to war against anyone who thinks or believes another way. Who really knows? Nobody. Nothing was written down until years after he would have died and nobody would remember what he said verbatim anyway. The whole damn thing is interpretation and guesswork intended to guide believers toward a particular thought process and goal, all of which varies depending on who’s done the interpreting.

There’s also the fact that Christians don’t seem content to just read what Jesus supposedly said and did and what Paul and company wrote later. Do they hang onto their favourite parts of the Old Testament because they remember Jesus was a Jew who would have believed that stuff? I have no idea if that’s part of it. Why do they badger the world into following archaic rules and regulations (aimed at a long-gone society) regarding propriety and sin? Why the reluctance to admit how flawed a lot of it is when compared to what we know about biology and nature and history today? Admitting that some parts aren’t worth supporting anymore doesn’t have to mean it’s necessary to completely negate the rest. I’ve never bought into the “one bad apple spoils the bunch” idea. Of course, that opens it up to more arguments about what parts need to be ignored and which need keeping…

The next part of the article focuses on New Testament verses supporting the idea that Christ meant for all his followers to follow “One Church”. He’s claiming that Christ’s intent was to build a belief system that would eventually wipe out the competition (he notes “Pharisees, Sadducees, Herodians, Essenes and others”) so that the only possible life choice would be his brand of Christianity for ever and always.

Since Christ is not divided, and neither Paul nor anyone but Christ was crucified for us, and we are not to be baptized into anyone except Christ, then Paul argues that we “speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfected together in the same mind and in the same judgment” (I Corinthians 1:10-13).

This is straightforward and really needs no “interpretation.” The problem is that given hundreds of years from the first century, religious division, a plurality of man-made churches, and a failure to use only the Scriptures as our authority, we now have religious chaos.

I add to this the fact that a lot of gospels were written in those early days that were later judged to be wrong and heretical or just inappropriate for addition when the bible was assembled. Who’s to say those rejected books aren’t really more in line with what Christ thought and intended? They were chucked but what if that was the wrong move? What would this religion look like today if they’d kept those instead? Would it have lasted or died out? There’s no way to know what impact they would have had.

People choose for themselves what’s important. When preaching the gospel, those preaching will inevitably emphasize the parts that speak loudest to them. The result of that is somewhat obvious; the audience will get a biased sermon, and they may go on to give their own based around what parts they thought were most important. Sure, they’re all based on the gospels, but some will promote the goodness, others might promote good works, more will promote meek inheriting, others will focus on other key points and eventually there’s conflict over what Jesus might have thought was most important of all. What did Jesus think was most important of all? If it was this one church thing, then every Christian is a colossal failure.

To say that the New Testament teaches there is one body, one church, sounds so narrow to many. Yet it is the truth. Why do people have problems with such an “interpretation”? It is not because the Bible “means different things to different people, but because people do not believe it.

Don’t be fooled by the “just your interpretation” idea. Believe the Bible can be understood (Ephesians 3:3-5) and believe and obey the gospel.

Trouble is, the gospels are woefully out of date on many issues, and it doesn’t matter how many new versions are published, the absence of information remains. That is why people tend to interpret the text in the hopes of convincing people that Jesus was rabidly against homosexuals and abortion and evolution and climate change. A lot has been learned in 2000 years and some of what’s been learned runs completely counter to stuff in that book. Our values and motivations have changed. We’re not living in little ignorant groups of goat herders any more. We have access to so much more in the way of medicine and education and philosophy and diverse viewpoints on every issue, no matter how trite or vital. We can see how big the world is. We can better know how our decisions will affect others, be they our neighbours or enemies half a world away. We’re better equipped to see the big picture. Maybe it can be argued we’re still woefully inept at dealing with it, but admitting that puts us in a far better position to fix it, I’m sure. We know what needs doing and those who can and care are working on it.

What good does it to do read a bible and believe every word printed within it? How does that fix anything? It strikes me that to do so would be avoidance, turning one’s back on the problems of the world in order to focus on personal salvation in the last days, for believers would be forced to agree with Jesus and John and Paul: the apocalypse is imminent and the earth is doomed. Why find alternatives to oil? Why give children a decent science education when they won’t live long enough to use it? Why care about the environment? A world’s worth of unbelievers will be going to hell any moment now, so why bother? Jesus loves me and will guide me to heaven! I can hardly wait to sit up on my cloud and watch flames devour everyone who doesn’t think like I do.

What a waste of brain power that kind of thinking is.

If belief in god and Jesus Christ is what gets some people through the day, whatever. Fine. But they really shouldn’t buy into what people like Owen preach. Belief in those words is not enough. How those words are interpreted makes a huge impact on what people do because of them. What are they doing because of them? How are they behaving? How are they treating people? How are they educating their children? How are they dealing with the clash of reality when it bumps up against their precious tome? How do they vote? How do they think? How do they react? All of that is going to matter more than anything in that book.


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Addressing Skepticism About Atheism’s Value To Skepticism

In reply to my post last week about why atheism is important to advancing proper skepticism, Armchair Skeptic writes:

You touch on some good points here. It would help, I think, if you start by defining what you consider to be “proper” skepticism; I didn’t really get a clear understanding of that from this post.

Proper skepticism is the willingness (a) to suspend belief until sufficient evidence for a reasonable knowledge claim is available and (b) to leave open the possibility you are wrong and to actively investigate the likelihood of better possible alternative explanations to the extent that possible doubt still remains about your belief and knowledge claims.

Proper skepticism is a skill of judgment and a volitional virtue.

One must be good at weighing the relative merits of proposed evidence and at understanding what sorts of evidence is appropriate for each kind of question. Scientific evidence is not necessary for properly believing (or for properly being skeptical of) most everyday instances of human testimony, but it does become important when assessing certain kinds of testimony like eye-witness testimony.  Scientific evidence is only partially relevant to certain philosophical problems which, depending on the particulars, may require conceptual and logical analysis and an understanding of history and, even, moral norms and values, to properly be understood.  And, of course, in situations where we clearly need the scientific method, everyday human testimony (in the form of anecdotal evidence) is poor evidence, value judgments risk being counter-productively prejudicial, etc.

On the volitional side, one must have a temperament which is habitually willing to do the following challenging tasks whenever necessary for properly assessing the relevant kind of evidence at hand: suspend judgments and values, admit ignorance, challenge pleasant or popular beliefs, reexamine existing beliefs and knowledge claims, correct for cognitive biases, accept uncertainty, employ rigorous scientific and/or philosophical methods of investigation, etc.

Some additional clarification of “atheism” would be helpful as well, as you describe several aspects of it here — opposition to personally held religious faith, opposition to supernaturalism, and opposition to religion as a social/political institution.

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in gods and lack of worship of gods.  Some atheists are atheists because they only lack belief in gods (but do not affirm that they know, or even belief, that gods do not exist). They take an epistemological position that unless there is a positive reason for a belief, one should default to non-belief (but not an actual disbelief).  I call these atheists “agnostic atheists”.  I am another kind of atheist, a “gnostic atheist”.  I think I can know there is no Yahweh or Jesus or Allah just as well as we all think we can know that there is no Zeus or Spider-Man.

Atheists are typically (though not conceptually) opposed to faith in principle.  Now, there is nothing about atheism that logically entails that any given atheist is against faith in principle.  One could happen to lack belief in gods or disbelieve in gods and yet also believe that it is okay (or, even, good) to willfully believe on insufficient evidence and so be a pro-faith atheist without personally believing in gods.  This can happen where an atheist has faith in other things besides gods or where an atheist lacks faith but approves of it in others, possibly including religious believers.   Similarly atheism is conceptually compatible with other forms of supernaturalism (as I have met atheists who seem to believe in ghosts for example).  And there are some atheists who (cynically?) believe it is important socially and politically to maintain faith-based social/political institutions, even if their own personal epistemological standards do not in involve faith.

Finally, you can have atheists (like I) who oppose faith on principle and oppose primarily faith-based religion and faith-based social/political institutions, but who nonetheless thinks that religion (or something like it) might conceivably be salvaged in non-faith-based, non-authoritarian forms compatible with atheism and the rationalistic open-endedness of rigorous science and philosophy.

I’m also not entirely comfortable with the generalizations you’re making. Sure, some religions and religious people do some of what you describe here, to varying degrees. Lumping them all into the same pigeonhole, however, is an inadvisable shortcut. I’ve observed that some atheists — particularly ones who have adopted that label for the purposes of self-identity, socio-politcal reasons, and moral and intellectual values — are also capable of promoting and inculcating anti-rationality.

And that’s the fundamental problem, I think, of conflating atheism with skepticism, which I’ve written about here. Atheism (as a matter of personal belief) is a conclusion that some of us may have reached through critical thinking, but not all atheists have done so; even if they have, that doesn’t necessarily imply that they apply skepticism to all of their conclusions.

So while I’m open to the possibility that atheism is important to promoting skepticism, I’m certainly skeptical of that claim. I look forward to reading your future posts on the subject.

I did speak in strokes that were too broad in my first post and I think you raise good objections that give me a chance to clarify.  What I accused the religious of was actively cultivating natural human cognitive biases rather than combating them since they aid the preservation of faith.  Now, it is true that religious believers are also often taught many other genuine critical thinking skills.

For example, private Catholic schools are some of the only places in America where kids are explicitly taught philosophy prior to college.  And whereas a given public or private secular university may require very little philosophy, I have taught now at three Catholic universities and each of them require no less than three philosophy courses for every student.  They are manifestly not afraid of philosophical investigation—at least to a certain point.  And the long rich traditions of textual study in the Jewish, Islamic, and Catholic traditions belie any broad statement that there is no reasoning or questioning or investigative skill encouraged by religions.

And modern liberal versions of these (and non-monotheistic) religions obviously eschew a number of regressive or anti-rational ways of thinking that dogmatists and fundamentalists are so infamously guilty of.  And a religion like Buddhism, of course, is from a philosophical point of view atheistic and the Buddha actively encourages independent thought.

But despite all of this, the considerable extent to which these religions inculcate faith and wed people’s personal identities to their faithful adherence to their traditional beliefs—no matter how obviously ridiculous, stifling, stagnant, or regressive some of those beliefs are them are—they remain institutions that skeptics should oppose on principle.

This is not to say that skeptics have to reject the literary value of these traditions or dismiss all their value judgments including the ones that admit of rational defense apart from religious dogmatism.  But rather it is to say that skeptics need to oppose explicitly the extent to which systematic inculcation of intellectual vices undermines even the religions’ best efforts to simultaneously teach some intellectual virtues.

The vices of faith and superstitiousness and authoritarianism that religions regularly and deliberately inculcate and reinforce create mental walls which can devastatingly undermine, or corrupt the use of, all those otherwise good critical thinking skills someone might learn through her more rigorous religious studies. One learns how to spin a logical argument, but is also trained to accept a number of patently illogical premises as matters of dogma (e.g. The Trinity) and to reject conclusions that contradict ancient Scriptures, and to unjustly assume that even if the Bible (or Koran, etc.) is merely mythical in some ways that it still must still be right in its “Real Meaning”, etc., etc.  I could go on.   For a fuller treatment of the ways that faith poisons otherwise redeemable aspects of religion, read this post.

Now even though conceptually atheism is compatible with superstition, faith, and faith-based social and political institutions, etc., as a contemporary Western movement it is explicitly opposed and hostile to these things.  It is specifically cast as a version of rationalism and it specifically targets the abuses of faith and the anti-rational training in faith-based thinking.

And since religion is the primary institution that, by contrast, explicitly teaches people that it is morally good, and even necessary, to sometimes believe contrary to evidence as part of maintaining their loyalty and identity, atheistic challenges to the belief in god which undergirds this religious influence are key.

This functional benefit of atheism is there and important for skeptics to promote even if identity-atheists (those who make being an atheist an important part of their self-understanding and self-presentation) are on some or many occasions fail to live up to the standards of critical thinking that theoretically they are committed to.  (And it is worth noting that skeptics can of course challenge identity-atheists who they think reason poorly to live up to their own professed standards of critical thinking.  One cannot do this as well with people of faith who are committed in principle to abandoning scrutiny whenever it would lead to rejection of something too central to their faith.)

So while a skeptic or an atheist (like I) might want to demand that identity-atheists (like me) hold ourselves more strictly in practice to the critical thinking ideals we espouse in theory, in the meantime atheism (even the kind that is not rationalistic or hostile to religion) is still an important tool in undermining faith because of faith’s tight association with religion and religion’s presently tight association with God in the West.   And faith is precisely the vice that skeptics should be primarily concerned with rooting out.

I think Armchair Skeptic makes another important point, in the article he linked to, which is worth addressing before closing.  He writes that skepticism should be associated with a certain process and methods rather than with any one conclusion.  And I agree, in principle, skepticism itself cannot be committed to atheism or to any other position to the point of rejecting all future evidence—that would not be properly skeptical.  But skeptics should explicitly support atheism now because properly skeptical standards merit it and because atheism would undermine the institutional support for faith.  Skeptics certainly should not make special allowances for people’s faith-beliefs that they wouldn’t make for their other irrational beliefs.  And, it’s worth stressing that even an identity-atheist should be open to abandoning her atheism should evidence change.  Atheists should be properly skeptical just as skeptics should be properly atheistic.  We should all be properly everything.

And skepticism should oppose faith on principle as the very antithesis of skeptical thinking.  Now, on non-epistemic, pragmatic socio-political or psychological grounds skeptics may be skeptical about anti-faith atheists’ position that attacking faith is better than using it for some other good.  But if they are interested in debunking badly formed beliefs in ghosts or UFOs, etc., they should theoretically be against the cognitive errors, including faith, that help people make these mistakes.  If all they want to do is figure out what to have people believe so they can be happiest—even if it turned out that this involved likely false beliefs (though I am not convinced it does), then maybe they are not primarily concerned with skepticism after all.

Your Thoughts?

Targeting Eagleman

David Eagleman is an interesting, prolific, and lively neuroscientist who has unfortunately roused the ire of a few New Atheists with his sloppy criticisms of atheism and his flaky “Possibilianism” label — and now Sam Harris is hunting him with a big ol’ barbed harpoon. This could be fun!

What also makes it fun for me is that Eagleman will be visiting the University of Minnesota Morris campus on the 27th-28th of September, and he’ll also be popping into my Neurobiology course as a guest presenter. His lecture will be open to the public, but he’ll be talking about his latest book, not Possibilianism…but maybe we’ll be able to squeeze in a few questions.


War is peace, lies are truth

Thanks to Ophelia, I have been introduced to the Vision Forum, where fantasy is inconsequential and contradictions can be blissed over. Their Beautiful Girlhood Collection is something to see: it’s built on what they claim is a Biblical vision of femininity.

The Beautiful Girlhood Collection aspires, by the grace of God, to encourage the rebuilding of a culture of virtuous womanhood. In a world that frowns on femininity, that minimizes motherhood, and that belittles the beauty of being a true woman of God, we dare to believe that the biblical vision for girlhood is a glorious vision.

It is, in fact — a beautiful vision. It is a vision for purity and contentment, for faith and fortitude, for enthusiasm and industry, for heritage and home, and for joy and friendship. It is a vision so bright and so wonderful that it must be boldly proclaimed. We are here to proclaim it.

They’re selling a girl’s childhood built around the concept that servility is beauty: girls play with dolls and cook and clean. You really don’t want to look in their science section. I’d be blinded by the brilliance if it weren’t all so dark and dismal.

It’s a big lie everywhere: they’re dressing up a life of faceless hard labor in frilly dresses and calling it good. Everything is backwards.

Personifying it perfectly, when I first went to their web page, the image that popped up was this one.

Nothing says “hope” to a Christian quite like a row of burning bodies on stakes and a couple of hungry predators advancing on unarmed people. They do realize how these scenarios turned out, right? They ended with some slaves picking up the leftover gobbets of flesh and bone and stuffing ‘em in a bucket, and raking fresh sand over the pools of blood. Hope!


Darn it, don’t tell me this

I have decided not to ever debate creationists any more. What settled it for me was the awful Jerry Bergman debate: I was deeply embarrassed to be sharing the stage with that raving fruitcake. It was clear that it was not an opportunity for rational discussion, and further, talking with members of the creationist majority afterwards, they were unanimous in their assessment that a) Bergman was an idiot whose clock got thoroughly cleaned, but b) so what? If FavoriteCreationist X had been there, he woulda showed me that evilution was false.

I felt like I was totally wasting my time and doing nothing but boosting Bergman’s reputation. And I decided on the spot that Gould and Dawkins were 100% correct, and debating was a fool’s errand.

But then, dammit, an ex-creationist explains what brought him over to the side of reason: watching debates.

So that’s why I say that we should debate creationists. I think that the majority of creationists simply were like me, uneducated about what evolution really is, blinded by fundamentalist religion that sees evolution as evil and ill-served by a public school system where biology teachers are afraid to teach evolution or don’t even accept it themselves.

Aaarrgh. I will not change my policy on the basis of this one account.

Maybe we should have a debate about whether to have debates…

(Also on Sb)


Laugh at the Libertarian

There’s a reason I really despise Libertarianism…but still find them hilariously twisted. Here’s a case of a columnist defending the science of Rick Perry. You know that evolution stuff? It’s not that important. Creationism is a waste of time and it makes Perry look “unsophisticated”…but so what? There’s a real problem here, and it is all those liberals who’ve fallen for the junk science of “global warming”.

It is interesting watching the nation’s defenders of reason, empirical evidence, and science fail to display a hint of skepticism over the transparently political “science” of global warming. Rarely are scientists so certain in predicting the future. Yet this is a special case. It is also curious that these supposed champions of Darwin don’t believe that human beings—or nature—have the ability to adapt to changing climate.

Like 99 percent of pundits and politicians, though, I have no business chiming in on the science of climate change—though my kids’ teachers sure are experts. Needless to say, there is a spectacular array of viewpoints on this issue. The answers are far from settled. There are debates over how much humans contribute. There are debates over how much warming we’re seeing. There are debates over many things.

But even if one believed the most terrifying projections of global warming alarmist “science,” it certainly doesn’t mean one has to support the anti-capitalist technocracy to fix it. And try as some may to conflate the two, global warming policy is not “science.” The left sees civilization’s salvation in a massive Luddite undertaking that inhibits technological growth by turning back the clock, undoing footprints, forcing technology that doesn’t exist, banning products that do, and badgering consumers who have not adhered to the plan through all kinds of punishment. Yet there is no real science that has shown that any of it makes a whit of difference.

It’s perfect: the author is trying to set himself up as a defender of good science, but he does it by 1) trivializing the importance of the most fundamental concept in biology, and 2) being a denialist about climate change. Scientists are certain (to a reasonable degree) about predicting the future in this case because all the data points in this direction — you have to willfully reject the evidence in order to disagree. Maybe if he were a little less blasé about evolution he’d also realize that this isn’t an issue of capacity to adapt — trust me, you don’t want to live under an intense selection regime that changes the population’s mean physiology in a few generations — but of a common sense recognition that rapid climate change will be disruptive and have a severe economic cost.

And the answers are settled. Ongoing climate change is a fact. Pretending there is a serious debate about it is what the creationists do.

I suppose one solution would be to blow up all the factories and return to a 15th century lifestyle…if we didn’t mind killing a few billion people in the process, and wanted to live lives of hard labor in squalor. I don’t see anyone on the left advocating that, though. Instead, I see advocacy for sustainable energy policies and a demand that industry factor in all of the invisible, long-term costs that they’ve been hiding — which is, of course, anathema to Libertarians who believe in giving corporations a free ride at the expense of human beings.

(Also on Sb)


Vegetarians: Would You Eat Meat If Animals Didn’t Have to Die for It?

I support stem-cell research. And I oppose killing animals for food when alternatives are readily available (even if they’re “humanely killed”). I’m 28 and I’ve still never (purposely) eaten beef or fried chicken or turkey on Thanksgiving or fish or… you get the point. It used to be for religious reasons, but for most of my life now, it’s been for personal ones.

Here’s a hypothetical scenario I’ve never considered until now: What if you took stem cells from a pig, used scientific techniques to help the cells multiply, and eventually grew muscle tissue that looked and tasted exactly like meat? No animals would be harmed/killed in the process.

Would vegetarians eat it?

Would omnivores eat that in lieu of meat that came from a dead animal?

My initial reaction was to say no. I avoid meat for more reasons than simply the ethics behind it. For one, I dislike the smell of it — If I’m out for breakfast and I smell bacon strips, it’s not a pleasant scent. I even stay away from the deli sections of grocery stores for the same reason. I also think the taste would be awful since it’d be my first time eating it. (Probably the same reason I think beer tastes awful even though I’ve never had more than a sip or two.)

But if no animals are being killed, would I at least give it a try?

Sure, why not. My biggest obstacle would no longer be in play. Is it still meat? Technically yes, and I’m sure some vegetarians would still oppose it on those grounds, but if animals don’t have to be slaughtered, I don’t get the abstinence. It’s not like I have any desire to eat meat, but it’d be nice to experience something everyone else seems to enjoy quite a bit. That is, if I could get over the superficial aspects of it.

In any case, the situation is still a long way from reality. Right now, the biggest “piece of meat” they’ve created organically is “about the size of a contact lens.”

Incidentally, PETA is still offering $1,000,000 to anyone who can make in vitro meat that tastes like the real thing and can be sold commercially.

(Thanks to Angie for the link!)

Jesus? Never Heard Of Him

Often times Christians will ask people if they have heard the “Good News.” They will ask if you have ever heard of Jesus Christ. Once when I was in college, I thought I would try a little experiment and answer the question in a way most Christians wouldn’t expect. I said, “No, never heard of him.”

I wanted to see how a Christian could explain the ridiculousness of Christianity to someone who had never heard it before. Of course, no Christian would even believe that I hadn’t heard of Jesus so I had to make up some story about growing up in a foreign country and just recently coming to America and not knowing any one. I still don’t think anyone bought it, but at least one Christian was willing to go down the rabbit hole anyway.

This was good because I got to play Socrates and ask the really obvious questions without being confrontational. You can’t really do that normally. Normally, if you question any part of the ridiculousness of Christianity the Christian will get offended right way.

Unfortunately, I think I blew my cover too soon to really get a good conversation going, but I still think it is an interesting strategy to help to show just how ridiculous Christianity really is. If a Christian can explain it to someone who has never heard the story before, they start to put themselves in “your shoes” and imagine what they would think and how they would feel if someone was telling them this story for the first time. It like you are getting them to think about the story from a backup of their brain that never actually existed. It cuts through the indoctrination.

I would be curious to know if anyone is willing to try this strategy and let me know how it goes.

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think god out of existence

no one's going to help you bubby.
from the movie bad boy bubby



'you see, no one's going to help you bubby, because there isn't anybody out there to do it. no one. we're all just complicated arrangements of atoms and subatomic particles - we don't live. but our atoms do move about in such a way as to give us identity and consciousness. we don't die; our atoms just rearrange themselves. there is no god. there can be no god; it's ridiculous to think in terms of a superior being. an inferior being, maybe, because we, we who don't even exist, we arrange our lives with more order and harmony than god ever arranged the earth. we measure; we plot; we create wonderful new things. we are the architects of our own existence. what a lunatic concept to bow down before a god who slaughters millions of innocent children, slowly and agonizingly starves them to death, beats them, tortures them, rejects them. what folly to even think that we should not insult such a god, damn him, think him out of existence. it is our duty to think god out of existence. it is our duty to insult him. fuck you, god! strike me down if you dare, you tyrant, you non-existent fraud! it is the duty of all human beings to think god out of existence. then we have a future. because then - and only then - do we take full responsibility for who we are. and that's what you must do, bubby: think god out of existence; take responsibility for who you are.'

via pz myers


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