Monthly Archive for September, 2010

News: Atheists Not So Ignorant According to Pew

According to the US Pew Forum (http://pewforum.org/Other-Beliefs-and-Practices/U-S-Religious-Knowledge-Survey.aspx):

Atheists and agnostics, Jews and Mormons are among the highest-scoring groups on a new survey of religious knowledge, outperforming evangelical Protestants, mainline Protestants and Catholics on questions about the core teachings, history and leading figures of major world religions.

So when you get the ‘you don’t know what you are talking about’ from a Christian apologist, just respond with this survey. My favourite response to the need for the ten commandments for the basis of morality is to say something like: ‘interesting, I need to re-read them.

Ignorant atheist: ‘Oh, by the way. Where do I find them?’

Christian apologist: ‘The Bible!’

Ignorant atheist: ‘Yes, of course. But which part’.

Christian apologist: ‘Not sure. Old Testament, I think’

Ignorant atheist: ‘Yes, I remember. They are at Exodus 20:2–17 and Deuteronomy 5:6–21. Perhaps you better check them also now that you know where to find them! I’d also recommend the NRSV as a pretty good translation, although I’m fond of the Jerusalem. Bye now!’

Life has some pleasures.

Alex McCullie

Trevor Project

So after Seth Walsh we just crossed over to 5 confirmed suicides in the USA this year as a result of homophobic bulling. 5 more people dead because "we don't hate the sinner just the sin" is nothing but a lie. We have no idea what the numbers are but even Christian conservatives put it at 7.5% of kids were bullied for sexual orientation. Yet they still oppose explicit mentions (see truetolerence.org) because they see homophobia as intrinsic to the faith. There is quite a few poor argument and justification for the gays are icky position, just the like girls are icky position that this blog often addresses. But I don't know any justification for the pro-harassment position. it is frankly amazing to me how successful the right has been in promoting bullying. You would think it would be hard to get millions to be in favor of teen suicide.

Anyway, if you are a gay kid going through this and stumble on this website. There is a group called the Trevor Project that is designed to help. 866-4-U-TREVOR (866-488-7386). If you are an adult

Catholics

Catholic prelates silencing a rape victim



Mood: aggravated annoyed

Atheists Know More About Religion

The Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life did a survey and found that atheists and agnostics knew more about religion than the religious themselves. That’s not a surprise to me. Dan Barker, co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, probably knows more about religion and the Bible than the majority of theologians. Atheists are generally more intellectual than theists and, therefore, more apt to question the religious dogma. Many theists just blindly accept the religious doctrine they have been taught which may have coined the phrase “blind faith”. The more any reasonably intelligent person questions religion using science, logic and reason, the more likely they are to embrace atheism.

A study by the University of Minnesota found that most of the religious despise and distrust atheists more than any other minority including Muslims. Sounds real Christ-like doesn’t it? Maybe they are afraid because they can’t convince an atheist to believe using science, logic and reason as all they have is mythology and arguments created by their uninformed, huckster ministers. I’ve noticed that when people find out that I am an atheist, they tend to avoid me rather than engage me. Maybe they are afraid I will know more about their religion than they do.

This is why politicians and the powerful like religion. It makes the masses more malleable so they can be easily influenced and controlled.  This has been going on for centuries and it is alive and well today. The Republicans are trying to use religion as a basis to sell their positions even though they are opposite the supposed teachings of Jesus. Or should I say the teachings of the supposed Jesus? I’m not convinced he even existed.

Religion in politics is dangerous to our freedoms—which we are rapidly losing. It gives politicians what I call “detour” issues to divert attention away from serious problems, like unemployment, to emotional issues like abortion and mosques in New York City. Look at how many believe that Obama is a Muslim and all of the time spent on it instead of asking if he is a socialist who is intent on destroying the free enterprise system. And what about the disconnect between religion and the environment?

Today I listened to Bishop Glenn Beck. He didn’t mention god once during the whole show and I was shocked. He actual had an interesting discussion outlining the path for problem identification and recognition through fact, opinion, solutions and theory. I found it interesting that he doesn’t apply this logic to religion. Of course I think Beck was drawn to religion because of his alcoholism which is common for recovering alcoholics. I just get frustrated how he goes to great lengths to make a case for something then totally blows his credibility by saying god is the answer and that we should all fall to our knees and pray. However, Beck is very clever so this might just be his method of moving his malleable, religious listeners.

Please help an atheist family in need…

You may remember "Rapture Right " a Christian parody group that has pranked RRS users (at my request) on several occasions.  Sadly one of the two brothers that make up "Rapture Right" had a tragedy strike his daughter recently.  His life hasn't been the same since.  His daughter Ella is currently in a coma which she slipped into after having a cancerous tumor removed from her brain.  If you are able to help financially please consider sending a few dollars to help out.  A full story is available at: http://www.hope4ella.com 

I've also posted a portion of the story at: http://www.atheistvolunteers.org/node/47 

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Creeping homophobia




Let me take you back, briefly, to 2004. I lived in Washington D.C. that summer and the political tensions were palpable. Perhaps our country never recovered from the divisiveness this election brought. Karl Rove unpacked his bag of political tricks, Michael Moore released a conspiracy-laden attack on the Bush administration, 527 groups came to prominence, the media and intelligence communities were still reeling from the administration's outing of an active CIA agent one year earlier. And, on top of all that, there was much focus on one of the right wing's favorite scare tactics: Boys kissing.

In a politically convenient moment, President Bush pushed forth The Marriage Protection Act, which acted to block challenges to a previous act, the Defense of Marriage Act. The Marriage Protection Act passed in the House before the election, but eventually died in the Senate. But the right-wing media forces were able to use that legislation to prop up Christian right zealots like Tony Perkins and James Dobson. They mobilized the Christian right quite successfully and it wasn't solely on the issue of gay marriage. That topic was just a launching pad to give Christian America something to rally behind. A reason to start voting the same way. Once Christians were convinced that gay marriage was a threat, it was easy for the right to present slippery slope arguments on what would happen to our country if Senator John Kerry was elected president. Christian culture, they seemed to suggest, was about to topple and crumble across America unless you vote for George W. Bush. Bush won a very narrow victory.

Homophobia works as a great scare tactic for right wing politicians. On the left, openly homosexual politicians like Barney Frank admit who they are and move on with their careers. On the right, homosexuals are encouraged to suppress any information about their sexuality. Ever wonder why that is? Well, isn't it clear? The right wing can't use homophobia as a tool anymore if it's exposed that there are a number of gay republicans in Congress. So, when outed, gay republicans are asked to step down and continue denying their sexuality.

Cut to 2010. Even though it's not a presidential election, it's a big election year. Republicans hope to see another 1994, when they took the House and the Senate (incidentally, it was that House and Senate under Republican control that would pass the original Defense of Marriage Act of 1996). You may be interested to know that Congressman Bob Barr, who authored the act was also staunchly anti-abortion, but that didn't stop him from procuring an abortion for his wife, who he would (in a show of respect to traditional marriage) soon divorce. And even Barr eventually came out against DOMA and now favors a 2009 bill that would at least provide same-sex partners to receive federal benefits. It should come as no surprise that Barr is no longer with the Republican party. He now considers himself a libertarian.

But here we are with another election on the horizon and what do we see splattered across our front pages? Gays, gays, gays. The growing Tea Party movement (which makes me shudder to admit their popularity) is running hard on the Bush/Rove model of homophobia. Of course, there's Delaware's Christine O'Donnell's well-publicized campaign to 'cure' homosexuals. Then there's the recent debacle over Don't Ask Don't Tell. Nevada's Sharron Angle is battling adoption by gay couples. However, the Tea Party's endorsement of established Republican Sen. Jim DeMint, who was all tied up in the C Street scandal last year, shows their true colors. They're not a new wave of conservative libertarians. They're the same old Republicans, just more religious and more nuts. This week DeMint defended comments he made in (say it with me) 2004 condemning both homosexuals and unmarried women as unfit to teach in a public school classroom. He now thinks he's taking the high road by standing up for his 'moral opinion' even if the media doesn't like it. You can bet that plays well to conservatives.

Here we are, six years later and the Republicans, the Tea Party who claim to be the 'new conservatives,' break out the same old bag of tricks, from the same old people. The same old, I'm just like you, my morals are straight outta the Bible, mom, football, apple pie, traditional family, gays are sinners, easily understood, thought-terminating clichés.

And it's not just me saying so: A new poll out today explains exactly who these teabaggers are: The Christian right.

Creeping homophobia




Let me take you back, briefly, to 2004. I lived in Washington D.C. that summer and the political tensions were palpable. Perhaps our country never recovered from the divisiveness this election brought. Karl Rove unpacked his bag of political tricks, Michael Moore released a conspiracy-laden attack on the Bush administration, 527 groups came to prominence, the media and intelligence communities were still reeling from the administration's outing of an active CIA agent one year earlier. And, on top of all that, there was much focus on one of the right wing's favorite scare tactics: Boys kissing.

In a politically convenient moment, President Bush pushed forth The Marriage Protection Act, which acted to block challenges to a previous act, the Defense of Marriage Act. The Marriage Protection Act passed in the House before the election, but eventually died in the Senate. But the right-wing media forces were able to use that legislation to prop up Christian right zealots like Tony Perkins and James Dobson. They mobilized the Christian right quite successfully and it wasn't solely on the issue of gay marriage. That topic was just a launching pad to give Christian America something to rally behind. A reason to start voting the same way. Once Christians were convinced that gay marriage was a threat, it was easy for the right to present slippery slope arguments on what would happen to our country if Senator John Kerry was elected president. Christian culture, they seemed to suggest, was about to topple and crumble across America unless you vote for George W. Bush. Bush won a very narrow victory.

Homophobia works as a great scare tactic for right wing politicians. On the left, openly homosexual politicians like Barney Frank admit who they are and move on with their careers. On the right, homosexuals are encouraged to suppress any information about their sexuality. Ever wonder why that is? Well, isn't it clear? The right wing can't use homophobia as a tool anymore if it's exposed that there are a number of gay republicans in Congress. So, when outed, gay republicans are asked to step down and continue denying their sexuality.

Cut to 2010. Even though it's not a presidential election, it's a big election year. Republicans hope to see another 1994, when they took the House and the Senate (incidentally, it was that House and Senate under Republican control that would pass the original Defense of Marriage Act of 1996). You may be interested to know that Congressman Bob Barr, who authored the act was also staunchly anti-abortion, but that didn't stop him from procuring an abortion for his wife, who he would (in a show of respect to traditional marriage) soon divorce. And even Barr eventually came out against DOMA and now favors a 2009 bill that would at least provide same-sex partners to receive federal benefits. It should come as no surprise that Barr is no longer with the Republican party. He now considers himself a libertarian.

But here we are with another election on the horizon and what do we see splattered across our front pages? Gays, gays, gays. The growing Tea Party movement (which makes me shudder to admit their popularity) is running hard on the Bush/Rove model of homophobia. Of course, there's Delaware's Christine O'Donnell's well-publicized campaign to 'cure' homosexuals. Then there's the recent debacle over Don't Ask Don't Tell. Nevada's Sharron Angle is battling adoption by gay couples. However, the Tea Party's endorsement of established Republican Sen. Jim DeMint, who was all tied up in the C Street scandal last year, shows their true colors. They're not a new wave of conservative libertarians. They're the same old Republicans, just more religious and more nuts. This week DeMint defended comments he made in (say it with me) 2004 condemning both homosexuals and unmarried women as unfit to teach in a public school classroom. He now thinks he's taking the high road by standing up for his 'moral opinion' even if the media doesn't like it. You can bet that plays well to conservatives.

Here we are, six years later and the Republicans, the Tea Party who claim to be the 'new conservatives,' break out the same old bag of tricks, from the same old people. The same old, I'm just like you, my morals are straight outta the Bible, mom, football, apple pie, traditional family, gays are sinners, easily understood, thought-terminating clichés.

And it's not just me saying so: A new poll out today explains exactly who these teabaggers are: The Christian right.

The Bald Avenger

2 Kings 2:23-25

23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.

25 And he went from thence to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.

In 2 Kings 2, Elisha, a former disciple of Elijah, is simply walking along when a group of children begin poking fun at his bald head. There are quite a number of different ways that he could deal with this scenario. He could simply ignore the peanut gallery and continue merrily on his way, he could laugh with the kids and make a few friends in the process, or he could have them all maimed and slaughtered by wild animals. Being a good and saintly fellow, Elisha decided on the most righteous of choices, the mauling.

Apparently, Elisha felt that it would be appropriate to utilize his rancor and call upon God, who then summoned a couple of female bears to tear them limb from limb. That’s a lovely little tale. With inspiring stories such as these, I can see why people call this the Good Book.

The Great Agnostic

I finally got around to reading Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan Jacoby.  It's an excellent history of the secular movement in America, from the founder's conscious decision to leave God out of the Constitution, to freethinkers' involvement in the American civil rights and feminist movements.  I've learned about many American freethinkers, atheists and agnostics of whom I had little, if any, knowledge prior to reading Jacoby's book. I was introduced to the great freethinking feminists, such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Ernestine Rose and Lucretia Mott, whom I knew very little about before.  I learned more about Thomas Paine and Abraham Lincoln's views on religion.  And most significantly to me, I learned about Robert Ingersoll.

Although I had heard his name mentioned in some books and blog posts before, I didn't really know anything about him.  After reading about him in Freethinkers, and then ripping through a number of his writings and speeches, I can see why he is such a respected American freethinker.  He's probably the reason that freethinking founders, such as Thomas Paine, are so well-known today.

The follow excerpt is from Ingersoll's speech "Gods."  It reminds me that although while we atheists and secularists are often fighting against the influence of religious fundamentalists, we also have a positive message:

Notwithstanding the fact that infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the fearless advocates of liberty and justice, we are constantly charged by the Church with tearing down without building again...
We are not endeavoring to chain the future, but to free the present. We are not forgoing fetters for our children, but we are breaking those our fathers made for us. We are the advocates of inquiry, of investigation and thought. This of itself, is an admission that we are not perfectly satisfied with all our conclusions. Philosophy has not the egotism of faith... 
We are laying the foundations of the grand temple of the future not the temple of all the gods, but of all the people -- wherein, with appropriate rites, will be celebrated the religion of Humanity. We are doing what little we can to hasten the coming of the day when society shall cease producing millionaires and mendicants -- gorged indolence and famished industry -- truth in rags, and superstition robed and crowned. We are looking for the time when the useful shall be the honorable; and when Reason, throned upon the world's brain, shall be the King of Kings, and God of Gods. 

A transcription of the entire speech can be found here.


The Great Agnostic

I finally got around to reading Freethinkers: A History of American Secularism by Susan Jacoby.  It's an excellent history of the secular movement in America, from the founder's conscious decision to leave God out of the Constitution, to freethinkers' involvement in the American civil rights and feminist movements.  I've learned about many American freethinkers, atheists and agnostics of whom I had little, if any, knowledge prior to reading Jacoby's book. I was introduced to the great freethinking feminists, such as Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Ernestine Rose and Lucretia Mott, whom I knew very little about before.  I learned more about Thomas Paine and Abraham Lincoln's views on religion.  And most significantly to me, I learned about Robert Ingersoll.

Although I had heard his name mentioned in some books and blog posts before, I didn't really know anything about him.  After reading about him in Freethinkers, and then ripping through a number of his writings and speeches, I can see why he is such a respected American freethinker.  He's probably the reason that freethinking founders, such as Thomas Paine, are so well-known today.

The follow excerpt is from Ingersoll's speech "Gods."  It reminds me that although while we atheists and secularists are often fighting against the influence of religious fundamentalists, we also have a positive message:

Notwithstanding the fact that infidels in all ages have battled for the rights of man, and have at all times been the fearless advocates of liberty and justice, we are constantly charged by the Church with tearing down without building again...
We are not endeavoring to chain the future, but to free the present. We are not forgoing fetters for our children, but we are breaking those our fathers made for us. We are the advocates of inquiry, of investigation and thought. This of itself, is an admission that we are not perfectly satisfied with all our conclusions. Philosophy has not the egotism of faith... 
We are laying the foundations of the grand temple of the future not the temple of all the gods, but of all the people -- wherein, with appropriate rites, will be celebrated the religion of Humanity. We are doing what little we can to hasten the coming of the day when society shall cease producing millionaires and mendicants -- gorged indolence and famished industry -- truth in rags, and superstition robed and crowned. We are looking for the time when the useful shall be the honorable; and when Reason, throned upon the world's brain, shall be the King of Kings, and God of Gods. 

A transcription of the entire speech can be found here.


Balls

Atheism is also a religion. You believe in the non-existence of god. You can't prove god doesn't exist.

Yes, atheism is a religion, but without a church, without even an organization, without rules, without altar boys, without a pope, without things to believe in for no reason at all and most importantly without a made up god.

Ah, I "believe" in the non-existence of god. Note that theists will suddenly use the qualification "believe" in the sense of "you just believe it but you can't be sure". At the same time they are right, just because they happen to believe so. When applied to us atheists, belief is suddenly something ridiculous, naive and credulous. It is not even the case. I just ask: where is your proof? At least give me some evidence. Don't ramble on about your god and your storybook in ever more preposterous circles.

They collect stamps. I don't see the particular excitement of collecting stamps. You're also a collector, they say. Of non-stamps.

No, I can't prove there isn't such a being as a god. Neither can I prove that invisible pink unicorns don't exist or that they didn't create the world by accidentally bumping into each other. Ridiculous? Let me ask you: do you know everything? No? I thought so. How can you really be sure that they don't exist? You can't. That's not even the point. The question is how likely is it? Both the pink invisible unicorns and the Abrahamic god have about as much likelihood of existing as if you were to go out now, buy a lottery ticket and win the grand prize. And buy another one the next day and again win the grand prize. And so on for all the remaining days of your life. Theoretically it could happen, but how likely is it? Don't count on it for your retirement plan is my advice.


agressive and obnoxious reaction of religious people when found out


The cartoon above — not mine; it's floating around the Internet — is very clear. Maybe I should add that I myself make no claim whatsoever of having or not having a baseball. I owe no explanation. I don't have to prove anything. Those who claim to have a baseball, however, most certainly do.

So theists, quit your whining, your aggressive and obnoxious insistence upon your made up god and most of all, don't try to force your barbaric, cruel rules as substitutes for decent morals upon us, sane people.

Show us your balls.

Mood: accomplished accomplished

Atheists, Agnostics Know More About Religion

(video below transcript)

Patrician Atheist Here.

So I was reading an LA Times article about a new Pew Survey titled the U.S. Religious Knowledge Survey and some interesting, though not very surprising results came out of this new survey.

Self-identifying Jews & Momons were the second most knowledgeable about religion – right behind the self-identifying atheists and agnostics who were most likely to answer the survey’s queries properly.

The survey gave some reasons for this:

It cites that many self-identifying atheists and agnostics grew up in a religious environment and consciously gave religion up after considerable reflection and study.

It also cites the fact that self-identifying atheists and agnostics are relatively well educated and knowledgeable and that in the survey they outperformed their religious counterparts with similar educational backgrounds.


The relatively poor performance of many religious participants in the survey was explained by Rev. Adam Hamilton who asserted that religious people tend to accept their faith as the truth, stop examining it and don’t care to examine other people’s faiths. Talk about blind faith.

Some other interesting facts from the survey include:

Self-identifying Mormons were found to have more knowledge of the Bible than even evangelical Christians

A majority of self-identifying Protestants couldn't identify Martin Luther

Four in ten self-identifying Catholics showed they didn’t understand the sacrament of Holy Communion by stating the wine and bread presented to the faithful are only symbolizing the blood and body of Christ – as opposed to actually becoming the blood and body of Christ.

Some faint bright spots for the faithful:
8 in 10 knew Mother Teresa was a Catholic - 8 in 10.
7 in 10 knew Moses lead the Jews out of Egypt and Jesus was born in Bethlehem - 7 in 10.

Patrician Atheist,

Good Day.


Why Do Good

“where does the desire to do good come from” Bradley left a comment on my FAQ 1 page – The Ten Commandments and Morality – as follows: I just have a question, not a comment. If there is no transcendental … Continue reading

We’re atheists *because* we know about religion, not because we’re ignorant


From Psalm 14:1:

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

No, actually, we come to that conclusion by using our brains.

Observe.

A true fool sayeth in his heart "There is a god whose name I know and whose opinions I share" even when his mind tells him (or should be telling him) otherwise.


Believe nothing

Gautama Buddha believe nothing

“Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything simply because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders. Do not believe in traditions because they have been handed down for many generations. But after observation and analysis, when you find that anything agrees with reason and is conducive to the good and benefit of one and all, then accept it and live up to it.”


~ Gautama Buddha


Mood: contemplative contemplative

Neuranatomical correlates with religiosity

PLoS One. 2009 Sep 28;4(9):e7180.

Neuroanatomical variability of religiosity.

Kapogiannis D, Barbey AK, Su M, Krueger F, Grafman J.

Clinical Research Branch, National Institute on Aging (NIA), National Institutes of Health (NIH), Baltimore, Maryland, United States of America.

Abstract

We hypothesized that religiosity, a set of traits variably expressed in the population, is modulated by neuroanatomical variability. We tested this idea by determining whether aspects of religiosity were predicted by variability in regional cortical volume. We performed structural magnetic resonance imaging of the brain in 40 healthy adult participants who reported different degrees and patterns of religiosity on a survey. We identified four Principal Components of religiosity by Factor Analysis of the survey items and associated them with regional cortical volumes measured by voxel-based morphometry. Experiencing an intimate relationship with God and engaging in religious behavior was associated with increased volume of R middle temporal cortex, BA 21. Experiencing fear of God was associated with decreased volume of L precuneus and L orbitofrontal cortex BA 11. A cluster of traits related with pragmatism and doubting God's existence was associated with increased volume of the R precuneus. Variability in religiosity of upbringing was not associated with variability in cortical volume of any region. Therefore, key aspects of religiosity are associated with cortical volume differences. This conclusion complements our prior functional neuroimaging findings in elucidating the proximate causes of religion in the brain.

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