Monthly Archive for March, 2009
At the time, I couldn't think of an adequate response to it. Fortunately, I learned. Here's my favourite refutations of the Wager:
1. Bertrand Russell response - "But Sir, you didn't give us enough evidence!"
2. The "Which God?" response - Pascal was assuming Yahweh in his argument. But, if god is really, ummmm, Thor, then Pascal's bet fails no matter what you bet on. If you choose to believe in Yahweh, or not, you still lose and go to Thor's hell.
3. The "Worst God!" response - It's better to believe in the god with the worst Hell since the Hell of all other gods will be less severe. Paradoxically, this means believing in a god that is able to dream up the most Evil Hell - not a trait I would want in a 'loving' god.
4. The "Atheist Heaven" response - If I discover, after death, that god exists and it asks why I never believed, I would explain that my logic and reasoning abilities must have come from god and I must have been expected to use them. Using them to the full extent possible showed that god must be improbable. Wouldn't god make heaven available to those who used all the abilities that god gave us and decided god wasn't there? Heaven must be for atheists!
Anyone have any more? Anyone? Anyone?
At the time, I couldn't think of an adequate response to it. Fortunately, I learned. Here's my favourite refutations of the Wager:
1. Bertrand Russell response - "But Sir, you didn't give us enough evidence!"
2. The "Which God?" response - Pascal was assuming Yahweh in his argument. But, if god is really, ummmm, Thor, then Pascal's bet fails no matter what you bet on. If you choose to believe in Yahweh, or not, you still lose and go to Thor's hell.
3. The "Worst God!" response - It's better to believe in the god with the worst Hell since the Hell of all other gods will be less severe. Paradoxically, this means believing in a god that is able to dream up the most Evil Hell - not a trait I would want in a 'loving' god.
4. The "Atheist Heaven" response - If I discover, after death, that god exists and it asks why I never believed, I would explain that my logic and reasoning abilities must have come from god and I must have been expected to use them. Using them to the full extent possible showed that god must be improbable. Wouldn't god make heaven available to those who used all the abilities that god gave us and decided god wasn't there? Heaven must be for atheists!
Anyone have any more? Anyone? Anyone?
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Yeah, I know it goes on to say that men should love their wives even as Christ loved the church, but love is not equality. You can love your pet or your big screen TV, but you don't think of them as equals.
Here are a few more from the New Testament:
- 1 Corinthians 11:3
- But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
- 1 Corinthians 14:34-36
- Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
- Colossians 3:18
- Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
- 1 Timothy 2:11-15
- Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.
- 1 Peter 3:1
- Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.
(See The Skeptic's Annotated Bible for more examples)
Loved the one about coveting your neighbor’s ass.
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"Religious beliefs were probarly created by uncertainity, which after each retelling of the stories of it slowly vanished.
People were acceptable to the claims of it because of the vunrability of the child brain."
The poor English is rather amusing. I am so glad that the claims found people acceptable. I stayed quiet about this find because the writer is Danish, and I would not even attempt to express such a complex thought in Danish.
Don’t scoff, I have seen equally poor English from Americans.
I'd agree that uncertainties prompted the invention of religions. However, religious institutions rely upon instilling even greater fears than they help, or profess to help fears that they deliberately instilled. I know that these sound like the same thing, but they are not.
The first is, "Don't be afraid, God loves you."
The second is, "Don't be afraid of God's threatened punishments for your sins because God will love you if you worship him." That is, thou must love and obey He who threatens punishment. Negatively parental, isn't it?
The persistent vulnerability of childish brains in adults who have not outgrown fears permits institutions that sell idiotic notions in order to prosper.
A prayer has the same effect as a lucky horseshoe. Statistically none. No effect whatsoever. It does however stimulate the imagination into creating excuses when a demonstration of the effect of prayers (or horseshoes) fails miserably.
The above video is somewhat "not exciting" to watch but it's arguments are rock solid.
A prayer has the same effect as a lucky horseshoe. Statistically none. No effect whatsoever. It does however stimulate the imagination into creating excuses when a demonstration of the effect of prayers (or horseshoes) fails miserably.
The above video is somewhat "not exciting" to watch but it's arguments are rock solid.
Anyway, for any of you who have had the misfortune of watching a video by a soporific* YECer who calls himself NephilimFree, then this video should amuse you. It is a brilliant take-off and the double entendres at the end are hilarious. It opens with something that the “Creepy Cretinous Creationist” actually said.
* I'm serious, if it were not that his videos would give me nightmares, Nephy would be perfect for curing insomnia.
The video of the dopes on Faux Noise’s 3 AM program Red Eye ripping on Canada and Canadian troops in Afghanistan as certainly made its rounds on the net as of late. Here it is incase you haven’t seen it.
It has annoyed and angered quite a few people, to say the least. I would describe my reaction as mildly annoyed. I just don’t view these people as credible, and so their idiotic views hardly phased me. A few months ago, I would’ve been more annoyed. But now it’s becoming increasingly clear that the target market of this network – right wing lunatics and ignoramuses – are moving further and further into marginalization.
Tom Green, on the other hand, was absolutely enraged. I pass the video on because it’s important to support those in the public eye who speak out against this horrible network. While it’s true that corruption in news media spreads across the television dial, Fox News is in a league of its own. The bar was already so low, so the people at Fox News routinely take to digging.
I'm still gun-shy about posting too much on this blog. Certain people are eager to use anything said as ammunition. Apparently, there are friends of mine who still get flack and weekly inquiries about my existence. (frown)
The kids and I are plugging along. I still have majority custody of them and contrary to what's been posted elsewhere, there's been no justification for changing that.
I won't talk about Pdaddy. He is an individual in his own rite and should speak for himself. I don't understand his choices or his behavior. I can only speak for myself. I'm adjusting. It's really hard adjusting to life as a single mother of four after being with your best friend/life partner for almost a decade. I miss Mike: I can't lie. It's strange not having him around to talk to and I miss the relationship I thought we had. There are times when I really wish he was home. Then I realize that his actions prohibit the trust that's necessary in having that sort of relationship. I will say he's been very helpful with my latest hiccup.
I hurt my knee pretty badly. It's made life complicated.
The kids are adjusting. P2 is such a rock. I really value his contributions to our new family. He's been busy with drumline and scouts. P1 is a fourteen year old girl - focused on school and planning for the future. Having a teenage girl is an experience. P3 is dealing with the situation in the best way she can. She, rightfully and understandably, misses what was. P4 is my daily reminder that childhood is a gift and he takes up most of my attention. We're busy with creating new schedules and enjoying one another.
I've been trying to keep up with my friends online. It's difficult. There just aren't enough hours in a day. If you want to call me, that's probably an easier way to contact me.
I hope to get back into blogging (late this summer). I need to take care of other priorities first. I miss you all terribly. I hope you all know that. *hugs*
I'm still gun-shy about posting too much on this blog. Certain people are eager to use anything said as ammunition. Apparently, there are friends of mine who still get flack and weekly inquiries about my existence. (frown)
The kids and I are plugging along. I still have majority custody of them and contrary to what's been posted elsewhere, there's been no justification for changing that.
I won't talk about Pdaddy. He is an individual in his own rite and should speak for himself. I don't understand his choices or his behavior. I can only speak for myself. I'm adjusting. It's really hard adjusting to life as a single mother of four after being with your best friend/life partner for almost a decade. I miss Mike: I can't lie. It's strange not having him around to talk to and I miss the relationship I thought we had. There are times when I really wish he was home. Then I realize that his actions prohibit the trust that's necessary in having that sort of relationship. I will say he's been very helpful with my latest hiccup.
I hurt my knee pretty badly. It's made life complicated.
The kids are adjusting. P2 is such a rock. I really value his contributions to our new family. He's been busy with drumline and scouts. P1 is a fourteen year old girl - focused on school and planning for the future. Having a teenage girl is an experience. P3 is dealing with the situation in the best way she can. She, rightfully and understandably, misses what was. P4 is my daily reminder that childhood is a gift and he takes up most of my attention. We're busy with creating new schedules and enjoying one another.
I've been trying to keep up with my friends online. It's difficult. There just aren't enough hours in a day. If you want to call me, that's probably an easier way to contact me.
I hope to get back into blogging (late this summer). I need to take care of other priorities first. I miss you all terribly. I hope you all know that. *hugs*

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