
So, hold on...Israel wants the Beatles to come and play there...but banned them back in their heyday?
How do you even justify banning the Beatles in the first place? Seriously, they were for peace, against communism, loving, cute, and pretty wholesome...Imagine if someone threw Exodus or Twisted Sister on the radio there...
Maybe it was Lennon's whole: imagine the world without religion bit that got to them. It's good to know the Israelis have thick skins...oh wait...
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ZennalathasTantum religio potuit suadere malorum.Blogged with Flock
I have been an atheist for a long time. And for just about as long, I have had an irrational love of Christian hymns (my favorite is “Amazing Grace”). This started when I first learned the hymns at a summer camp, as we sang them on Sunday mornings in a clearing in the woods, surrounded by beautiful trees, sky, and mountains. I was inspired by the intensity of the words, but even more so by the beauty of the melodies as we all joined our voices in song. And to this day, I still enjoy singing hymns, and amaze the small fraction of my friends who are Christians by singing from memory multiple verses of many favorites. I of course believe virtually none of the concepts in these religious songs, but I still enjoy not only the melodies, but also the spiritual intensity of their sentiments. The same can of course be said for the beautiful, religiously inspired works of Bach, Haydn, etc.
But this points up the danger of hymns: their very intensity, pleasing and catchy melodies, and rhythmic qualities can sway people’s minds and direct their beliefs and their actions. This is true of course of any kind of polemical songs. One example of this power, far removed from hymns, are the “uplifting” Hitler Youth songs and Nazi anthems that were sung endlessly during Nazi propaganda marches.
A song by the country-singing Carter Family, “Diamonds in the Rough”, points up the power of hymns to convince, and even convert. The song begins:
While walking out one evening
Not knowing where to go
Just to pass the time away
Before we gave the show
I met a little salvation band
Singing with all its might
I gave my heart to Jesus
And left the show that night.
These two brief verses present a perfect parable of conversion by hymn: the wastrel, frittering away his time either in some kind of a secular show, or just walking around, hears a salvation group singing songs of devotion to Jesus. He immediately leaves the show, and presumably dedicates his life to the Saviour.
So I can't help retaining a sentimental love for hymns. But clearly, in the wrong hands- or minds- they can be insidious.
I have been an atheist for a long time. And for just about as long, I have had an irrational love of Christian hymns (my favorite is “Amazing Grace”). This started when I first learned the hymns at a summer camp, as we sang them on Sunday mornings in a clearing in the woods, surrounded by beautiful trees, sky, and mountains. I was inspired by the intensity of the words, but even more so by the beauty of the melodies as we all joined our voices in song. And to this day, I still enjoy singing hymns, and amaze the small fraction of my friends who are Christians by singing from memory multiple verses of many favorites. I of course believe virtually none of the concepts in these religious songs, but I still enjoy not only the melodies, but also the spiritual intensity of their sentiments. The same can of course be said for the beautiful, religiously inspired works of Bach, Haydn, etc.
But this points up the danger of hymns: their very intensity, pleasing and catchy melodies, and rhythmic qualities can sway people’s minds and direct their beliefs and their actions. This is true of course of any kind of polemical songs. One example of this power, far removed from hymns, are the “uplifting” Hitler Youth songs and Nazi anthems that were sung endlessly during Nazi propaganda marches.
A song by the country-singing Carter Family, “Diamonds in the Rough”, points up the power of hymns to convince, and even convert. The song begins:
While walking out one evening
Not knowing where to go
Just to pass the time away
Before we gave the show
I met a little salvation band
Singing with all its might
I gave my heart to Jesus
And left the show that night.
These two brief verses present a perfect parable of conversion by hymn: the wastrel, frittering away his time either in some kind of a secular show, or just walking around, hears a salvation group singing songs of devotion to Jesus. He immediately leaves the show, and presumably dedicates his life to the Saviour.
So I can't help retaining a sentimental love for hymns. But clearly, in the wrong hands- or minds- they can be insidious.
Gordon Hinckley's dead in spite of being "totally in the hands of the Lord."
Looks like god dropped the ball on this one.
Okay, that was a little glib...but after watching South Park, can anyone really like the Mormons...? I'll give him one thing: his cane's pretty bad ass.
Sorry about the long absence, but I have a panic disorder and have been focussed on other things: sue me.
- Zennalathas
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum. Blogged with Flock
Gordon Hinckley's dead in spite of being "totally in the hands of the Lord."
Looks like god dropped the ball on this one.
Okay, that was a little glib...but after watching South Park, can anyone really like the Mormons...? I'll give him one thing: his cane's pretty bad ass.
Sorry about the long absence, but I have a panic disorder and have been focussed on other things: sue me.
- Zennalathas
Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum. Blogged with Flock
No one is going to lose their job simply because they watch this movie. You can tell who this movie is targeted at. No one should need to be scared in to watching a movie about science. If you do need to be terrified in a trailer in order to watch a movie about science then you're probably not someone who knows a lot about science. If you don't know a lot about science there's really nothing stopping you from believing this garbage.
The reason they aren't allowed in scientific journals is because this is not science. It's philosophy at best. It's theism. Scientist are trying to learn about things they see and feel, these guys are trying to learn about things they don't see that can't be proven. Hello? Knock knock knock. Hi I'm science and I'm here for you to learn about what proof we have for what.
A theory is an idea. The idea is tested, and it is either thrown out because tests cannot prove it is true, or the tests consistently back up that idea as true. A theory can be tested until it consistently, 100% of the time proven true. Like... gravity. So say you get an idea (a theory) but it's lacking any proof so that means it is not considered equal to another theory that not only has A LOT of proof, but contradicts yours in many ways.
Get more proof and you'll get published. Simple as that. SIMPLE AS THAT.
No one is going to lose their job simply because they watch this movie. You can tell who this movie is targeted at. No one should need to be scared in to watching a movie about science. If you do need to be terrified in a trailer in order to watch a movie about science then you're probably not someone who knows a lot about science. If you don't know a lot about science there's really nothing stopping you from believing this garbage.
The reason they aren't allowed in scientific journals is because this is not science. It's philosophy at best. It's theism. Scientist are trying to learn about things they see and feel, these guys are trying to learn about things they don't see that can't be proven. Hello? Knock knock knock. Hi I'm science and I'm here for you to learn about what proof we have for what.
A theory is an idea. The idea is tested, and it is either thrown out because tests cannot prove it is true, or the tests consistently back up that idea as true. A theory can be tested until it consistently, 100% of the time proven true. Like... gravity. So say you get an idea (a theory) but it's lacking any proof so that means it is not considered equal to another theory that not only has A LOT of proof, but contradicts yours in many ways.
Get more proof and you'll get published. Simple as that. SIMPLE AS THAT.
As a follow-up to one of the most popular posts ever on The View, here is an op/ed item from today's Globe and Mail.
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Greetings Folks, long time no blogging......
I just saw an RFI (Request for Information) from NASA for proposals on educational MMOs (Massively Muliplayer Online Games). It seems that the NASA Learning Technologies project over at the Goddard Space Flight Center are looking into developing an MMO that would help teach students about STEM fields (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics).
Would you like to know more?Here's a excerpt from the above site:
Virtual worlds with scientifically accurate simulations could permit learners to tinker with chemical reactions in living cells, practice operating and repairing expensive equipment, and experience microgravity, making it easier to grasp complex concepts and transfer this understanding quickly to practical problems. MMOs help players develop and exercise a skill set closely matching the thinking, planning, learning, and technical skills increasingly in demand by employers. These skills include strategic thinking, interpretative analysis, problem solving, plan formulation and execution, team-building and cooperation, and adaptation to rapid change.
This is an idea I can totally get behind. It involves NASA, science, education and video games...... How could I not support such a plan? If they can successfully develop a scientifically accurate environment for the game, I think it could end up being a pretty decent game.
Cheers,
Me
HOLY SMOKES! There are less atheists in prison than there are Mormons. SUCK IT, theists. SUCK. IT.
"Note that atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less in the prison populations (0.21%)."
Statistics are what they are. I'm not saying these numbers are proof that atheism isn't evil. Atheists are proof of that.
HOLY SMOKES! There are less atheists in prison than there are Mormons. SUCK IT, theists. SUCK. IT.
"Note that atheists, being a moderate proportion of the USA population (about 8-16%) are disproportionately less in the prison populations (0.21%)."
Statistics are what they are. I'm not saying these numbers are proof that atheism isn't evil. Atheists are proof of that.
We don't normally use this blog to comment on current events, however, the recent announcement by the Westboro Baptist Church concerning Heath Ledger's funeral provides a lesson too valuable to be ignored. As many know, the WBC is a Kansas based church that has set out on a mission of fighting the evils of homosexuality and "fag enabling" which are running rampant in this country. WBC members frequently protest the funerals of gays, allies, and fallen soldiers, the latter falling under the category of fag enablers, men and women who fight under the banner of a fag-loving nation. As such, this group plans of protesting the late Mr. Ledger's funeral because of his sympathetic portrayal of a gay cowboy. Ignoring the glaring fact that America by and large openly hates homosexuals, the WBC raises an important issue.
Many religious moderates are standing on the side of reason in regard to the WBC and its protests, calling members of the group extremists guilty of misinterpreting the bible. Here arises a serious problem, one which has been mentioned previously on this blog. For functional atheists, which is to say those who lead their everyday lives in a completely secular fashion save for the occasional prayer for assistance, holiday celebration, or reference to an anticipated eternity of bliss, there is this idea that the bible is open to interpretation, and moreover, the proper interpretation is one that ignores most of the rules contained therein. Therefore, in the minds of functional atheists (better known as religious moderates), the members of the WBC are indeed extremists who have taken biblical text too far, out of context, and what have you.
I would argue that the bible was not intended to be interpreted; it is not presented as a poem or a story in the literary sense of the word, but rather as a historical account of god and his instructions to man. Interpretation has stemmed only from cognitive dissonance as believers struggle in vain to reconcile their desire to believe in an afterlife with the fact that time and time again science has demonstrated the bible to be filled with utter nonsense.
Yet for the sake of argument, let us imagine that the bible indeed is open to interpretation as the religious moderate would believe. Certainly, a reasonable interpretation would consist of reading the text as is. No one pretends to imagine that when Frost claims to have taken the road less traveled he really means the beaten path, and here we are discussing metaphor-filled poetry. Accordingly, we cannot in good faith pretend that when god declares lying with mankind as with woman to be an "abomination" there isn't the slimmest chance he means just that. If such is the case, it would follow that the WBC is not in fact a cult of extremists, but rather a church of righteous crusaders doing their damnest to save Americans from eternal torment. Certainly no religious moderate would complain if one were to protest the funeral of a mass murderer, for god tells us that "thou shall not kill." In the same vein, the WBC takes god at his word and acts accordingly.
Now, is the WBC in fact a group of fanatics, bigots and hate mongers? Most certainly. They ignore the fact that their supposed god also stresses the importance of forgiveness, fail to fuss over the myriad other inane rules god arbitrarily laid out, and, through the fervor with which they've latched onto one biblical line, reveal themselves as nothing more than backwards bigots capitalizing on the fact that outward gay-bashing goes unpunished in a nation which refuses to allow two tax-paying, law-abiding citizens to enjoy the legal rights of a married couple. However, it is only we secularist who have the right to point out such things. For anyone who goes to church on Sunday or prays at night or lights a certain candle for a certain period of time all because the imaginary man in the sky told him so is barred from the conversation, unless of course, he's calling to WBC to say "hello pot, just wanted to let you know that you're black."
We don't normally use this blog to comment on current events, however, the recent announcement by the Westboro Baptist Church concerning Heath Ledger's funeral provides a lesson too valuable to be ignored. As many know, the WBC is a Kansas based church that has set out on a mission of fighting the evils of homosexuality and "fag enabling" which are running rampant in this country. WBC members frequently protest the funerals of gays, allies, and fallen soldiers, the latter falling under the category of fag enablers, men and women who fight under the banner of a fag-loving nation. As such, this group plans of protesting the late Mr. Ledger's funeral because of his sympathetic portrayal of a gay cowboy. Ignoring the glaring fact that America by and large openly hates homosexuals, the WBC raises an important issue.
Many religious moderates are standing on the side of reason in regard to the WBC and its protests, calling members of the group extremists guilty of misinterpreting the bible. Here arises a serious problem, one which has been mentioned previously on this blog. For functional atheists, which is to say those who lead their everyday lives in a completely secular fashion save for the occasional prayer for assistance, holiday celebration, or reference to an anticipated eternity of bliss, there is this idea that the bible is open to interpretation, and moreover, the proper interpretation is one that ignores most of the rules contained therein. Therefore, in the minds of functional atheists (better known as religious moderates), the members of the WBC are indeed extremists who have taken biblical text too far, out of context, and what have you.
I would argue that the bible was not intended to be interpreted; it is not presented as a poem or a story in the literary sense of the word, but rather as a historical account of god and his instructions to man. Interpretation has stemmed only from cognitive dissonance as believers struggle in vain to reconcile their desire to believe in an afterlife with the fact that time and time again science has demonstrated the bible to be filled with utter nonsense.
Yet for the sake of argument, let us imagine that the bible indeed is open to interpretation as the religious moderate would believe. Certainly, a reasonable interpretation would consist of reading the text as is. No one pretends to imagine that when Frost claims to have taken the road less traveled he really means the beaten path, and here we are discussing metaphor-filled poetry. Accordingly, we cannot in good faith pretend that when god declares lying with mankind as with woman to be an "abomination" there isn't the slimmest chance he means just that. If such is the case, it would follow that the WBC is not in fact a cult of extremists, but rather a church of righteous crusaders doing their damnest to save Americans from eternal torment. Certainly no religious moderate would complain if one were to protest the funeral of a mass murderer, for god tells us that "thou shall not kill." In the same vein, the WBC takes god at his word and acts accordingly.
Now, is the WBC in fact a group of fanatics, bigots and hate mongers? Most certainly. They ignore the fact that their supposed god also stresses the importance of forgiveness, fail to fuss over the myriad other inane rules god arbitrarily laid out, and, through the fervor with which they've latched onto one biblical line, reveal themselves as nothing more than backwards bigots capitalizing on the fact that outward gay-bashing goes unpunished in a nation which refuses to allow two tax-paying, law-abiding citizens to enjoy the legal rights of a married couple. However, it is only we secularist who have the right to point out such things. For anyone who goes to church on Sunday or prays at night or lights a certain candle for a certain period of time all because the imaginary man in the sky told him so is barred from the conversation, unless of course, he's calling to WBC to say "hello pot, just wanted to let you know that you're black."