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The Sunday Age Faith column II

Ever wondered why some people are rich and others poor.

Rachel Woodlock, in last week's Faith column (no link available), gives us an Islamic view:
...the amount of wealth a person might acquire over their lifetime was already written by the hand of god before birth.
So if you are a citizen of Zimbabwe, fighting hunger and 14,841% inflation, take comfort in the fact there is nothing you can do about it and that Robert Mugabe was sent by Allah to keep you poor.

If This Was God’s Doing Then I Contend That God Is An Idiot

Today I hit my hand on a lamppost.

A banal and innocuous event and I’m glad to say that my finger quickly felt a lot better as soon as I stopped thinking about it.

As it happens I was talking with a classmate who believes passionately in God. As it happens, I was pulling his leg for something completely unrelated to religion and as it happens, as I hit my hand he retorted “Ah, that’s God punishing you for being such an idiot.”

I could not resist the temptation to strike back with chaos.

“Which one?”

He looked puzzled.

“Well, God.”

“OK, fine, so it was a divine punishment, but by whom? Zeus?”

“Dude, you know I’m a Christian who -”

“No, it must have been Thor, the God of lightning who moved my hand into a post of electrical dark magic. Although it could have also been Shiva, the destructor, who wished to inflict pain unto my pinky.”

via flickr/AprilM2107

“God has a plan for you, Adrian, so it must have been God.”

“There are many Gods you could believe in. What makes you think it was yours who was looking at me, a heathen, at this particular moment and judged that the punishment for teasing you for your football club was to strike my pinky with a lamppost?”

“OK, fine, it was all of them.”

“Hm, no, rather, the punishment was to strike the lamppost with my pinky. Has the lamppost been immoral?”

“Lampposts are inanimate objects.”

“Apparently not immune to divine punishment. You know what? OK, fine, God, your God, the Christian God, the father of Jesus of Nazareth, looked at me teasing you for your football club and decided that he would punish me, and assuming he thinks like you do that atheists are fools, then for my heathenness as well. He looked at the opportunities around him. He could have steered my path into a traffic collision. He could have dropped a 10-pound flower pot onto my head. He could have even interfered with meteorology to strike me with lightning, hail, blizzards or fish. But no, he sees a lamppost and my pinky and says ‘Hupa, Hupa, Hupa PinkyLamppost’. It didn’t even hurt. He didn’t even leave a couple of wires to electrocute me to death – that would have been admirably subtle”

“God exists whether you don’t believe in him or not.”

“If God’s plan to punish me for a banal terrestrial matter really was to strike a lamppost with my pinky ever so lightly then I contend to you that God is an incoherent, disorganised slacker and a complete idiot.”

We spent the rest of the walk home arguing about football.


Nutters Marginalised

In comments broadcast in a BBC1 television documentary, The Blair Years:

Tony Blair has sparked controversy by claiming that religious people who speak about their faith are viewed by society as "nutters".

The former prime minister’s comments came as he admitted for the first time that his faith was "hugely important" in influencing his decisions during his decade in power at No. 10, including going to war with Iraq in 2003.

Andrew Bolt stands up for those persecuted Christians in the West:
The one faith about which politicians mustn’t be open is Christianity...
This is certainly the case in Australia where our new Prime Minister Kevin Rudd has failed to mention his Christianity over many years. The recent election was also devoid of politicians being open about their faith or openly appealing to Christians.

And even if those two previous sentences were proved to be false, Bolt has marshaled damning evidence of the omnipresent anti-Christian hatred in the Anglosphere:
Here’s a particularly foul example of that anti-Christian bigotry. From the BBC, of course.

And if you dare follow the link you find this "particularly foul" exchange:

JEREMY PAXMAN: Does the fact that George Bush and you are both Christians make it easier for you to view these conflicts in terms of good and evil?

TONY BLAIR: I don't think so, no, I think that whether you're a Christian or you're not a Christian you can try perceive what is good and what is, is evil.

JEREMY PAXMAN: You don't pray together for example?

TONY BLAIR: No, we don't pray together Jeremy, no.

JEREMY PAXMAN: Why do you smile?

TONY BLAIR: Because - why do you ask me the question?

JEREMY PAXMAN: Because I'm trying to find out how you feel about it.

TONY BLAIR: Possibly.

JEREMY PAXMAN: Right, would anyone else like to have a question?

That's right, Blair was questioned about his praying habits.

First they came for the communists etc.

It’s Kind of Sad Being an Atheist

Declaring oneself an atheist is, by itself, a purely negative statement. Being atheists means that, in the absence of some proof that a god(s) rules the universe, we don’t believe in any such god(s). We of course feel forced to define ourselves this way in a country where roughly 85% of the population believes literally in heaven and miracles.

But “atheist” is still an uncomfortable designation, since we don’t want to define ourselves solely on the basis of a negative belief. So what are we to do? The answer is not at all obvious. Many of us (including me) consider ourselves to be secular humanists. This means to me that we hold the same beliefs as any right-thinking liberal person: love, appreciation of the beauty of the earth and of cultural human endeavors, and the rights of all people to have access to a happy and fulfilling life. In the atheist Thomas Jefferson’s ringing phrase in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,…” (Yes, the rest of that sentence unfortunately mentions “their Creator”, but the impact of the “self-evident” phrase is not lessened thereby).

A movement called The Brights (www.the-brights.net) has proposed a solution to this quandary. I feel sympathetic to their statement of principles, but personally find it still too undifferentiated. Perhaps we atheists should extend our self-designation slightly to something like: Atheists Who Also Seek to Live Full, Loving, and Generous Lives. Too long a name, of course, but maybe a start.

It’s Kind of Sad Being an Atheist

Declaring oneself an atheist is, by itself, a purely negative statement. Being atheists means that, in the absence of some proof that a god(s) rules the universe, we don’t believe in any such god(s). We of course feel forced to define ourselves this way in a country where roughly 85% of the population believes literally in heaven and miracles.

But “atheist” is still an uncomfortable designation, since we don’t want to define ourselves solely on the basis of a negative belief. So what are we to do? The answer is not at all obvious. Many of us (including me) consider ourselves to be secular humanists. This means to me that we hold the same beliefs as any right-thinking liberal person: love, appreciation of the beauty of the earth and of cultural human endeavors, and the rights of all people to have access to a happy and fulfilling life. In the atheist Thomas Jefferson’s ringing phrase in the Declaration of Independence: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,…” (Yes, the rest of that sentence unfortunately mentions “their Creator”, but the impact of the “self-evident” phrase is not lessened thereby).

A movement called The Brights (www.the-brights.net) has proposed a solution to this quandary. I feel sympathetic to their statement of principles, but personally find it still too undifferentiated. Perhaps we atheists should extend our self-designation slightly to something like: Atheists Who Also Seek to Live Full, Loving, and Generous Lives. Too long a name, of course, but maybe a start.

Thinking: Good For The Soul

Well it's been a while since I updated. Mostly because I've just moved continents but also because we have received no further replies from candidates. Although most of the candidates I contacted are perfectly happy to spam my inbox 6 times a day (I'm looking at you Bill Richardson) but not reply to my questions.

Most Disheartening.

Anywho!

An Art Project is being assembled. The final grant application won't be processed until January but we're preparing now!

It is a many faceted project which will encompass a book, street performances and artwork in picture and video form. Todays call to arms regards the street performances.

We (By which I mean a crack team of atheists with nothing better to do, if you'd like to be one of them please email me at crispymartian @ hotmail dot com) are going to be standing at various locations (at the moment it is St Paul's Cathedral, Speakers Corner in London, The Vatican & The First Cathedral of Christ in Moscow, more places to be added soon) wearing billboards with questions written on them. Attached to the billboard will be a number of creative utensils including charcoal, marker pens and paints for people to submit their answers on.

The people wearing these billboards will not approach anyone in the street, nor will they be trying to steer anyone away from their specific God. The point of this exercise is to get people thinking, and to share ideas in a comfortable environment.

So! The first draft of questions is halfway through and here they are:

Why?
Who is God?
How can I be Happy/Why Am I Unhappy?
I Sacrificed Myself For You: Discuss
Should My Body Be Hidden?
Polyester/Cotton Blend = Abomination?
Selfish Prayers Here:
Confess Your Sins Here:
What is Sin?
Who Is Evil?
Why Are We Here?
How am I Here?
Why Won't God Heal Amputees (This question was stolen from a website with the same name. I have yet to ask the owners permission and will need it before I use it in any official sense)
What Would God Say To You?
Is My Love/Reality Not Enough?
Our Lady Of:?
Why Love Your Enemies?
If The Rapture is Coming: What Was The Point?
How Did All Those Animals Fit on That Tiny Boat?
What Is Creation?
Where Does Your Goodness Come From?
Who Are You/What Makes You You?
What Is Holy? - If people write polo's I will be the happiest girl in the universe
In The Bible God Killed 2,270,365 People; Wouldn't You Rebel?
What If They're Wrong?
This Building Cost £-. How Would You Spend The Money?

Please please please let us know which questions you like and which ones you don't. Any suggestions for more questions can be added in the comments and if you'd like to receive updates on this project or if you'd like to be a part of it please email me. If we get this grant we will be covering travel costs of all the people who come to our billboard extravaganzas.

And please see my previous entries for other fun atheist projects.

Thinking: Good For The Soul

Well it's been a while since I updated. Mostly because I've just moved continents but also because we have received no further replies from candidates. Although most of the candidates I contacted are perfectly happy to spam my inbox 6 times a day (I'm looking at you Bill Richardson) but not reply to my questions.

Most Disheartening.

Anywho!

An Art Project is being assembled. The final grant application won't be processed until January but we're preparing now!

It is a many faceted project which will encompass a book, street performances and artwork in picture and video form. Todays call to arms regards the street performances.

We (By which I mean a crack team of atheists with nothing better to do, if you'd like to be one of them please email me at crispymartian @ hotmail dot com) are going to be standing at various locations (at the moment it is St Paul's Cathedral, Speakers Corner in London, The Vatican & The First Cathedral of Christ in Moscow, more places to be added soon) wearing billboards with questions written on them. Attached to the billboard will be a number of creative utensils including charcoal, marker pens and paints for people to submit their answers on.

The people wearing these billboards will not approach anyone in the street, nor will they be trying to steer anyone away from their specific God. The point of this exercise is to get people thinking, and to share ideas in a comfortable environment.

So! The first draft of questions is halfway through and here they are:

Why?
Who is God?
How can I be Happy/Why Am I Unhappy?
I Sacrificed Myself For You: Discuss
Should My Body Be Hidden?
Polyester/Cotton Blend = Abomination?
Selfish Prayers Here:
Confess Your Sins Here:
What is Sin?
Who Is Evil?
Why Are We Here?
How am I Here?
Why Won't God Heal Amputees (This question was stolen from a website with the same name. I have yet to ask the owners permission and will need it before I use it in any official sense)
What Would God Say To You?
Is My Love/Reality Not Enough?
Our Lady Of:?
Why Love Your Enemies?
If The Rapture is Coming: What Was The Point?
How Did All Those Animals Fit on That Tiny Boat?
What Is Creation?
Where Does Your Goodness Come From?
Who Are You/What Makes You You?
What Is Holy? - If people write polo's I will be the happiest girl in the universe
In The Bible God Killed 2,270,365 People; Wouldn't You Rebel?
What If They're Wrong?
This Building Cost £-. How Would You Spend The Money?

Please please please let us know which questions you like and which ones you don't. Any suggestions for more questions can be added in the comments and if you'd like to receive updates on this project or if you'd like to be a part of it please email me. If we get this grant we will be covering travel costs of all the people who come to our billboard extravaganzas.

And please see my previous entries for other fun atheist projects.

The Weakest Star Trek Link

Well, since I can't seem to sleep yet again (maybe I should start looking into this not sleeping thing), I am going to post a little something I was planning on posting in the morning. Thanks to toomanytribbles and atilio I have watched the Weakest Link Star Trek special.

Apparently they did quite well in the end compared to other past contestants. Although, as was usually the case for this show (and celebrity game shows in general), a few of the answers were completely bone-headed.

Enjoy.

Part 1:


Part 2:


Part 3:


Part 4:


Cheers,
Me

Rewards of the hereafter insufficient

Demonstrating an astounding lack of faith in the motivating effects of an eternity in heaven, the Vatican has introduced performance pay for employees of the world’s smallest independent state:

The bonuses, which will apply to the 3,000 people who work in the Vatican, from the highest cardinal to the humblest cleaner, will be awarded on the basis of “dedication, correctness, professionalism and productivity”.

There is no word yet on how the productivity of those charged with communicating with God will be measured. Number of prayers answered perhaps.

What is dogma debunked?

Posted by Steve-

I'd like to take the opportunity to use this first post to lay out a sort of mission statement for this blog. Readers may be wondering who Brandon and I are, and why we've decided to create a blog dedicated to debunking dogma. I met Brandon during my freshman year of college at Ohio State. We had both joined Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity, and quickly became good friends. To make a long story short, Brandon and I were two people who came into college belonging to "traditional" religious sects (I was raised a Catholic, while Brandon was raised a Jew), but left as athiests. The motivating factors which led to our transformations shall be elucidated in later posts, but suffice it to say, the process was both difficult and intensely considered. We have since come to the conclusion that organized religion, belief in a benevolent, supreme being, and more to the point, any belief system which lacks reasonable, supporting evidence (dogma) is utterly bunk, worthless, without defense, and quite frequently dangerous. Through this blog, Brandon and I hope to lay out the arguments that support the above statements, and ultimately demonstrate that irrational belief systems have no place in modern society. We hope that our readers will seriously consider what we have to say, and yes, we strongly encourage you to try to find flaws in our arguments and bring them to our attention. We are confident in our abilities to respond, and look forward to the hopefully rich discussions to come. Before signing off, I would like to address one question that frequently arises and deserves mention at this early juncture: what's the big deal in allowing people the right to believe in whatever makes them happy? To put it differently, why are Brandon and I bothered by the fact that some people like to believe in their chosen dogma, and why do we feel it necessary to point out the fallacy of their beliefs? We feel and hope to demonstrate that the dogma debate is the quintessential issue of our time. If every person on Earth agreed to keep their personal religion within the confines of their own minds and not allow it to influence any aspect of their interactions with others, all would be honkey dorey. This however is neither now, nor ever has been the case. Dogma directly influences the actions of believers, and in an era of modern scientific knowledge and technology, this influence could directly lead to the end of mankind. For this reason above all others, Brandon and I feel that what we have to say must be heard. Thanks; much more to come.

What is dogma debunked?

Posted by Steve-

I'd like to take the opportunity to use this first post to lay out a sort of mission statement for this blog. Readers may be wondering who Brandon and I are, and why we've decided to create a blog dedicated to debunking dogma. I met Brandon during my freshman year of college at Ohio State. We had both joined Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity, and quickly became good friends. To make a long story short, Brandon and I were two people who came into college belonging to "traditional" religious sects (I was raised a Catholic, while Brandon was raised a Jew), but left as athiests. The motivating factors which led to our transformations shall be elucidated in later posts, but suffice it to say, the process was both difficult and intensely considered. We have since come to the conclusion that organized religion, belief in a benevolent, supreme being, and more to the point, any belief system which lacks reasonable, supporting evidence (dogma) is utterly bunk, worthless, without defense, and quite frequently dangerous. Through this blog, Brandon and I hope to lay out the arguments that support the above statements, and ultimately demonstrate that irrational belief systems have no place in modern society. We hope that our readers will seriously consider what we have to say, and yes, we strongly encourage you to try to find flaws in our arguments and bring them to our attention. We are confident in our abilities to respond, and look forward to the hopefully rich discussions to come. Before signing off, I would like to address one question that frequently arises and deserves mention at this early juncture: what's the big deal in allowing people the right to believe in whatever makes them happy? To put it differently, why are Brandon and I bothered by the fact that some people like to believe in their chosen dogma, and why do we feel it necessary to point out the fallacy of their beliefs? We feel and hope to demonstrate that the dogma debate is the quintessential issue of our time. If every person on Earth agreed to keep their personal religion within the confines of their own minds and not allow it to influence any aspect of their interactions with others, all would be honkey dorey. This however is neither now, nor ever has been the case. Dogma directly influences the actions of believers, and in an era of modern scientific knowledge and technology, this influence could directly lead to the end of mankind. For this reason above all others, Brandon and I feel that what we have to say must be heard. Thanks; much more to come.

Howard wins

If you were thinking about watching the election coverage tomorrow night don't bother.

We already know the result.

Kenneth Copeland, American Christian televangelist who believes Jesus was raped, tells us:
this is no time for that man [John Howard] to be defeated. Well he’s not going to be. Amen. He is Lord to the glory of God the Father. He is Lord to the glory of God the Father. He is Lord over Australia! It has been announced! Amen.
And god has also spoken to Danny Nalliah:
The Lord told me to spend some personal time with Prime Minister John Howard and to prophetically prepare Federal Treasurer Peter Costello as the future Prime Minister of Australia.

... Prime Minister John Howard will be re-elected in the November election (if the Body of Christ unites in prayer and action) and pass the leadership onto Peter Costello sometime after.
And Nalliah isn't some crackpot cult leader. In August he had private meetings with the Prime Minister and Peter Costello. (Which may explain why the Coalition has been campaigning so badly - they know they've already won so what's the point in trying.)

If only Nalliah didn't think gambling places, along with brothels, mosques and temples, were satan's strongholds worthy of destruction. He could make quite a lot of money on the Coalition over at Sportingbet.

megaGAMERZ 3l33t

Sorry for the lack of posts lately folks. Here is a little something to tide you over, courtesy of Goats.


Cheers,
Me

Piss off

American Rosemary Hunter must have been in the toilet when god was handing out special powers.

She claims the god-given power make people urinate using her mind. Not only that, Hunter can psychically refill your empty bladder, thereby ensuring the former is always possible.

Unsurprisingly, under controlled conditions at the James Randi Educational Foundation, god abandoned Hunter and she was unable to demonstrate her gift.

If you're just pissing away time this evening, you can watch the entire test here.

Australia Was A Drinking Country

Jim Belshaw argues:

that Australia was a Christian country

How do we know?

The first official buildings built in new settlements after police stations and pubs were churches.

So Australia was a Christian country. In the same way, well actually to a lesser extent than, it was a country of criminals and vigourous drinkers.

Quick Word on Striking

So, the French are striking. Old news, huh?

It so happens that I’m personally affected. I may or may not be able to travel in two days time to see someone in France depending on whether the strikes are still disrupting rail service. Hence I disclose that:

I am personally affected by the strikes disrupting the rail network in France.

Having said that, and beyond a selfish reason to hate the strikes (many don’t need another reason, and with good, well, reason), there are plenty of points with which to poke the railway strikers!

1.- They’re not fighting for civil liberties, their jobs, or their rights. They’re fighting for a privilege.

Current French legislation gives workers in difficult or hazardous professions the privilege to retire after 37,5 years rather than 40 years of service, allowing some workers to retire at 50 with a full state supported pension, costing the State some 7 billion Euros a year.

Not good.

Even worse: Rail unions have just organised the biggest strike in a decade over this privilege. Imagine if they had something real to complain about!

Bottom line: The strikers are fighting not for their jobs, not for their rights, both of which are noble causes which I would fully support, but for a privilege. They’re fighting for two years and a half of pensions. Given that to be applicable they would have had to have spent 37,5 years in the industry, their life expectancy as a rail worker would have decreased considerably with respect to the average, so there are two years and a half they’re just not going to be able to profit from anyway. Bitter. Fucking. Truth. Now smoke it.

Aristocracies fight for privileges. Nobles and clergymen fight for privileges. Workers don’t fight for privileges. These strikes are characterised by a very distinct bourgeois feel of “We want cake, but the State, she gives us bread!”.

I stress: Not Good.

French rail worker: “We want cake, but the State, she gives us bread!”

2.- They’re unjustly holding the nation hostage.

They’ve taken the liberty to choose for 62 million people. They’ve taken the liberty to remove the right to freedom of movement and to get to their bloody jobs from a whole nation, all over a damned privilege.

Bottom line: In the self-appointed importance and arrogance of the rail workers, they’ve managed to detonate public support (I suppose they never expected any) and be generally hated.

Emotionally defused message to the rail workers of France: You’ve hijacked the trust the public had laid onto you by giving you such astounding union freedom and turned it into nothing more than a cheap, bourgeois dictatorship which is widely hated by everyone.

Emotionally charged message to the rail workers of France: I fucking hate you, you fascist bastards. You’re the reason I haven’t slept a wink in over 8 days and I hope you get replaced by robots within the next few months. So fuck you.