I really meant to do this earlier, but I guess better now than never.
Planet Atheism, for those who don't know is a blog aggregator for, you guessed it, atheist and non-religion related blogs. It was set up by Pedro Timóteo, who has a blog over at Way of the mind. If you have a blog that you feel may fit the criteria, check it out and see if you can join.
Anyway, thanks to Pedro for setting up Planet Atheism, and letting me join it, it was greatly appreciated.
Monthly Archive for June, 2007
I really meant to do this earlier, but I guess better now than never.
Planet Atheism, for those who don't know is a blog aggregator for, you guessed it, atheist and non-religion related blogs. It was set up by Pedro Timóteo, who has a blog over at Way of the mind. If you have a blog that you feel may fit the criteria, check it out and see if you can join.
Anyway, thanks to Pedro for setting up Planet Atheism, and letting me join it, it was greatly appreciated.
Planet Atheism, for those who don't know is a blog aggregator for, you guessed it, atheist and non-religion related blogs. It was set up by Pedro Timóteo, who has a blog over at Way of the mind. If you have a blog that you feel may fit the criteria, check it out and see if you can join.
Anyway, thanks to Pedro for setting up Planet Atheism, and letting me join it, it was greatly appreciated.
In case you haven't heard about it, Pownce is a new service by Kevin Rose (of TechTV and Digg fame) that seems to be, if nothing else, innovative.
You gotta wonder though... Digg? Pownce? What's next? Wallk? Eeat? Sleepp?
Anyway, if anyone can share an invite to Pownce, I'll give most of my invites back via some sort of fun contest
You gotta wonder though... Digg? Pownce? What's next? Wallk? Eeat? Sleepp?
Anyway, if anyone can share an invite to Pownce, I'll give most of my invites back via some sort of fun contest
In case you haven't heard about it, Pownce is a new service by Kevin Rose (of TechTV and Digg fame) that seems to be, if nothing else, innovative.
You gotta wonder though... Digg? Pownce? What's next? Wallk? Eeat? Sleepp?
Anyway, if anyone can share an invite to Pownce, I'll give most of my invites back via some sort of fun contest
You gotta wonder though... Digg? Pownce? What's next? Wallk? Eeat? Sleepp?
Anyway, if anyone can share an invite to Pownce, I'll give most of my invites back via some sort of fun contest
UPDATE: I added a poll to the sidebar
de-Conversion has a new post about preaching Atheism, so rather than make a super-huge comment, I briefly commented there and decided to make a post of my own.
I read an article in Wired a few months ago about Richard Dawkins and evangelical Atheism. I was repulsed to begin with-- I hate it when Christians try to do it to me, why would I want to do it? I rejected Dawkins for a long time because of this.
But since then I've had more time to think about it, and I've changed my mind.
Over at Atheist in a Minivan, Possum Momma has a post from January about an essay her daughter wrote, in which she proclaims herself as an Atheist. Her teacher had this to say:
Also at Atheist in a Minivan, there's this post, which is a Baptist preacher's reaction to the essay. Also, some choice comments from said preacher follow the post, including many about how Atheists merely feign morality.
ALSO on Atheist in a Minivan (she's getting a lot of love from me today), this post points out how this country music singer (and I suppose all his fans) feel about atheists-- we're incapable of any emotion, bad parents, and druggies.
I also have my own experiences, people in high school assuming that I worship the devil, people I considered friends telling me they couldn't spend time with me anymore... it never ends.
Complete misunderstanding of Atheism is rampant, and we have to do something to stop it. That's why I'm convinced that we have to be evangelical in one way or another. I think evangelical Atheism is almost a survival mechanism at this point. We should never “stoop” to the methods used by Christian evangelism (among others), but it’s essential that we get the word out about atheism/agnosticism/non-theism.
I’m not saying we shove it down people’s throats, but we need to open people’s eyes to the alternative to religion. Whether they wish to choose this path is up to them. I would never suggest trying to force Atheism on the faithful.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, I hope there will be a day when we can all live together in peace regardless of religion (or lack thereof) but it requires an understanding of the other side. An understanding which the majority of people don't have about us.
So I pose the question to you: should we evangelize Atheism?
de-Conversion has a new post about preaching Atheism, so rather than make a super-huge comment, I briefly commented there and decided to make a post of my own.
I read an article in Wired a few months ago about Richard Dawkins and evangelical Atheism. I was repulsed to begin with-- I hate it when Christians try to do it to me, why would I want to do it? I rejected Dawkins for a long time because of this.
But since then I've had more time to think about it, and I've changed my mind.
Over at Atheist in a Minivan, Possum Momma has a post from January about an essay her daughter wrote, in which she proclaims herself as an Atheist. Her teacher had this to say:
Her teacher wrote this at the end of her essay:
"Possum#1*, thank you for your thoughtful remarks. I don't think you're an atheist but I respect your empathy for your friends. Please see me after class today. A+"
After class, possum#1 said that her teacher told her she couldn't be an atheist because her "ability to care for others feelings isn't an atheist trait." and that her "attitude was very Christian." WTF?!
Also at Atheist in a Minivan, there's this post, which is a Baptist preacher's reaction to the essay. Also, some choice comments from said preacher follow the post, including many about how Atheists merely feign morality.
ALSO on Atheist in a Minivan (she's getting a lot of love from me today), this post points out how this country music singer (and I suppose all his fans) feel about atheists-- we're incapable of any emotion, bad parents, and druggies.
I also have my own experiences, people in high school assuming that I worship the devil, people I considered friends telling me they couldn't spend time with me anymore... it never ends.
Complete misunderstanding of Atheism is rampant, and we have to do something to stop it. That's why I'm convinced that we have to be evangelical in one way or another. I think evangelical Atheism is almost a survival mechanism at this point. We should never “stoop” to the methods used by Christian evangelism (among others), but it’s essential that we get the word out about atheism/agnosticism/non-theism.
I’m not saying we shove it down people’s throats, but we need to open people’s eyes to the alternative to religion. Whether they wish to choose this path is up to them. I would never suggest trying to force Atheism on the faithful.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, I hope there will be a day when we can all live together in peace regardless of religion (or lack thereof) but it requires an understanding of the other side. An understanding which the majority of people don't have about us.
So I pose the question to you: should we evangelize Atheism?
UPDATE: I added a poll to the sidebar
de-Conversion has a new post about preaching Atheism, so rather than make a super-huge comment, I briefly commented there and decided to make a post of my own.
I read an article in Wired a few months ago about Richard Dawkins and evangelical Atheism. I was repulsed to begin with-- I hate it when Christians try to do it to me, why would I want to do it? I rejected Dawkins for a long time because of this.
But since then I've had more time to think about it, and I've changed my mind.
Over at Atheist in a Minivan, Possum Momma has a post from January about an essay her daughter wrote, in which she proclaims herself as an Atheist. Her teacher had this to say:
Also at Atheist in a Minivan, there's this post, which is a Baptist preacher's reaction to the essay. Also, some choice comments from said preacher follow the post, including many about how Atheists merely feign morality.
ALSO on Atheist in a Minivan (she's getting a lot of love from me today), this post points out how this country music singer (and I suppose all his fans) feel about atheists-- we're incapable of any emotion, bad parents, and druggies.
I also have my own experiences, people in high school assuming that I worship the devil, people I considered friends telling me they couldn't spend time with me anymore... it never ends.
Complete misunderstanding of Atheism is rampant, and we have to do something to stop it. That's why I'm convinced that we have to be evangelical in one way or another. I think evangelical Atheism is almost a survival mechanism at this point. We should never “stoop” to the methods used by Christian evangelism (among others), but it’s essential that we get the word out about atheism/agnosticism/non-theism.
I’m not saying we shove it down people’s throats, but we need to open people’s eyes to the alternative to religion. Whether they wish to choose this path is up to them. I would never suggest trying to force Atheism on the faithful.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, I hope there will be a day when we can all live together in peace regardless of religion (or lack thereof) but it requires an understanding of the other side. An understanding which the majority of people don't have about us.
So I pose the question to you: should we evangelize Atheism?
de-Conversion has a new post about preaching Atheism, so rather than make a super-huge comment, I briefly commented there and decided to make a post of my own.
I read an article in Wired a few months ago about Richard Dawkins and evangelical Atheism. I was repulsed to begin with-- I hate it when Christians try to do it to me, why would I want to do it? I rejected Dawkins for a long time because of this.
But since then I've had more time to think about it, and I've changed my mind.
Over at Atheist in a Minivan, Possum Momma has a post from January about an essay her daughter wrote, in which she proclaims herself as an Atheist. Her teacher had this to say:
Her teacher wrote this at the end of her essay:
"Possum#1*, thank you for your thoughtful remarks. I don't think you're an atheist but I respect your empathy for your friends. Please see me after class today. A+"
After class, possum#1 said that her teacher told her she couldn't be an atheist because her "ability to care for others feelings isn't an atheist trait." and that her "attitude was very Christian." WTF?!
Also at Atheist in a Minivan, there's this post, which is a Baptist preacher's reaction to the essay. Also, some choice comments from said preacher follow the post, including many about how Atheists merely feign morality.
ALSO on Atheist in a Minivan (she's getting a lot of love from me today), this post points out how this country music singer (and I suppose all his fans) feel about atheists-- we're incapable of any emotion, bad parents, and druggies.
I also have my own experiences, people in high school assuming that I worship the devil, people I considered friends telling me they couldn't spend time with me anymore... it never ends.
Complete misunderstanding of Atheism is rampant, and we have to do something to stop it. That's why I'm convinced that we have to be evangelical in one way or another. I think evangelical Atheism is almost a survival mechanism at this point. We should never “stoop” to the methods used by Christian evangelism (among others), but it’s essential that we get the word out about atheism/agnosticism/non-theism.
I’m not saying we shove it down people’s throats, but we need to open people’s eyes to the alternative to religion. Whether they wish to choose this path is up to them. I would never suggest trying to force Atheism on the faithful.
At the risk of sounding cheesy, I hope there will be a day when we can all live together in peace regardless of religion (or lack thereof) but it requires an understanding of the other side. An understanding which the majority of people don't have about us.
So I pose the question to you: should we evangelize Atheism?
mojoey tagged my wife who then tagged me. I think every blog I will have ever read will eventually have this meme on it.
SO, onwards:
2. Fact: I know I shouldn't be, but I'm a sucker for lolcats. Usually internet fads annoy me to the point of anger, like 1337 5p34k, but lolcats just make my day. I have the I Can Has Cheezburger feed in my feed reader. I mean, come on, how can you not smile when you look at this:

3. Habit: I'm a digg junkie. There isn't a single item that hits the front page that I don't at least read the little blurb for. It's great! You really find out a lot of news that you wouldn't from more traditional media, as well as a lot of time-wasters.
4. Fact/Habit/Embarrassing Confession: For a few years now, I have had what you could almost consider an imaginary friend. I thought one day "I wonder what someone from 18th century America would think about our world today" and ever since then I can't stop imagining some person from Colonial times following me around and being amazed and confused about everything. It's not like I talk to him, but I do imagine conversations I would have with him. Really, it's amazing how far we've come, and it's an interesting thought experiment, but I can't seem to turn it off whenever my mind is idle.
5. Fact: I have ADD. This could explain #4 a bit, I suppose. I've learned to deal with it on my own, because medication really messed me up, and my stomach has never completely recovered. This didn't help #6 out at all.
6. Fact: I have a chronically bad gastrointestinal system. I got it from my mom. I have recurring diverticulitis, but I have it under control with a high fiber diet. Diverticulitis usually doesn't show up until late thirties, early forties, and I'm now 25. I have acid reflux. I used to throw up all the time but it's been a blissfully long time since I've done that. Hopefully it's getting better with age.
7. Fact: I'm a geek, to the extreme, and I love every minute of it. I own about 10 computers, and a few of them even work. I love sci-fi movies (good sci-fi... not the Sci-Fi Channel original movies like FrankenFish). I have seen every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I knew about Firefly before it was canceled. I have only come across a very few computer problems I couldn't fix, I know enough HTML/CSS/PHP/MySQL to do some quality web design. I have three monitors on my desk right now, two of them hooked up to this PC, two of them soon to be hooked up to another PC (one of them shared via KVM). I used to run Linux exclusively. And I can use all of this at my job!
8. Fact: I'm a movie/music snob, but not in a bad way. I hate the crap they play on the radio these days. There's an occasional good song, but I have actively sought out most of the music I listen to. Lately at least half of the movies I've seen have been Asian, and not the generic Kung-Fu movies that get imported to America. Takeshi Miike and Takeshi Kitano from Japan, Chan-Wook Park and Joon-ho Bong from Korea, Johnny To and Wilson Yip from China, could all teach even the best directors in Hollywood a thing or two about how to make a movie. That said, I still enjoy the pointless Hollywood crapfest like Ultraviolet, which is definitely a terrible movie but it's just so damn fun to watch! So while I'm snobbish in my preferences, it's definitely not to the exclusion of others.
So now, who am I going to tag that hasn't been already... hmmmmm...
The first two are the only blogs I read (out of like 30 or so if you include rarely read ones) that are relatively active and haven't been tagged yet.
Chadmac
Cragar
Now, some random people on Planet Atheism
Blurp
Kill the Afterlife
Radical Atheist
Stupid Evil Bastard
The Spiritual Atheist
Hell's Handmaiden
SO, onwards:
- We have to post these rules before we give you the facts.
- Players start with eight random facts/habits about themselves.
- People who are tagged need to write their own blog about their eight things and post these rules.
- At the end of your blog post, you need to choose eight people to get tagged and list their names.
- Don't forget to leave them each a comment telling them they're tagged, and to read your blog.
2. Fact: I know I shouldn't be, but I'm a sucker for lolcats. Usually internet fads annoy me to the point of anger, like 1337 5p34k, but lolcats just make my day. I have the I Can Has Cheezburger feed in my feed reader. I mean, come on, how can you not smile when you look at this:

3. Habit: I'm a digg junkie. There isn't a single item that hits the front page that I don't at least read the little blurb for. It's great! You really find out a lot of news that you wouldn't from more traditional media, as well as a lot of time-wasters.
4. Fact/Habit/Embarrassing Confession: For a few years now, I have had what you could almost consider an imaginary friend. I thought one day "I wonder what someone from 18th century America would think about our world today" and ever since then I can't stop imagining some person from Colonial times following me around and being amazed and confused about everything. It's not like I talk to him, but I do imagine conversations I would have with him. Really, it's amazing how far we've come, and it's an interesting thought experiment, but I can't seem to turn it off whenever my mind is idle.
5. Fact: I have ADD. This could explain #4 a bit, I suppose. I've learned to deal with it on my own, because medication really messed me up, and my stomach has never completely recovered. This didn't help #6 out at all.
6. Fact: I have a chronically bad gastrointestinal system. I got it from my mom. I have recurring diverticulitis, but I have it under control with a high fiber diet. Diverticulitis usually doesn't show up until late thirties, early forties, and I'm now 25. I have acid reflux. I used to throw up all the time but it's been a blissfully long time since I've done that. Hopefully it's getting better with age.
7. Fact: I'm a geek, to the extreme, and I love every minute of it. I own about 10 computers, and a few of them even work. I love sci-fi movies (good sci-fi... not the Sci-Fi Channel original movies like FrankenFish). I have seen every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I knew about Firefly before it was canceled. I have only come across a very few computer problems I couldn't fix, I know enough HTML/CSS/PHP/MySQL to do some quality web design. I have three monitors on my desk right now, two of them hooked up to this PC, two of them soon to be hooked up to another PC (one of them shared via KVM). I used to run Linux exclusively. And I can use all of this at my job!
8. Fact: I'm a movie/music snob, but not in a bad way. I hate the crap they play on the radio these days. There's an occasional good song, but I have actively sought out most of the music I listen to. Lately at least half of the movies I've seen have been Asian, and not the generic Kung-Fu movies that get imported to America. Takeshi Miike and Takeshi Kitano from Japan, Chan-Wook Park and Joon-ho Bong from Korea, Johnny To and Wilson Yip from China, could all teach even the best directors in Hollywood a thing or two about how to make a movie. That said, I still enjoy the pointless Hollywood crapfest like Ultraviolet, which is definitely a terrible movie but it's just so damn fun to watch! So while I'm snobbish in my preferences, it's definitely not to the exclusion of others.
So now, who am I going to tag that hasn't been already... hmmmmm...
The first two are the only blogs I read (out of like 30 or so if you include rarely read ones) that are relatively active and haven't been tagged yet.
Chadmac
Cragar
Now, some random people on Planet Atheism
Blurp
Kill the Afterlife
Radical Atheist
Stupid Evil Bastard
The Spiritual Atheist
Hell's Handmaiden
mojoey tagged my wife who then tagged me. I think every blog I will have ever read will eventually have this meme on it.
SO, onwards:
2. Fact: I know I shouldn't be, but I'm a sucker for lolcats. Usually internet fads annoy me to the point of anger, like 1337 5p34k, but lolcats just make my day. I have the I Can Has Cheezburger feed in my feed reader. I mean, come on, how can you not smile when you look at this:

3. Habit: I'm a digg junkie. There isn't a single item that hits the front page that I don't at least read the little blurb for. It's great! You really find out a lot of news that you wouldn't from more traditional media, as well as a lot of time-wasters.
4. Fact/Habit/Embarrassing Confession: For a few years now, I have had what you could almost consider an imaginary friend. I thought one day "I wonder what someone from 18th century America would think about our world today" and ever since then I can't stop imagining some person from Colonial times following me around and being amazed and confused about everything. It's not like I talk to him, but I do imagine conversations I would have with him. Really, it's amazing how far we've come, and it's an interesting thought experiment, but I can't seem to turn it off whenever my mind is idle.
5. Fact: I have ADD. This could explain #4 a bit, I suppose. I've learned to deal with it on my own, because medication really messed me up, and my stomach has never completely recovered. This didn't help #6 out at all.
6. Fact: I have a chronically bad gastrointestinal system. I got it from my mom. I have recurring diverticulitis, but I have it under control with a high fiber diet. Diverticulitis usually doesn't show up until late thirties, early forties, and I'm now 25. I have acid reflux. I used to throw up all the time but it's been a blissfully long time since I've done that. Hopefully it's getting better with age.
7. Fact: I'm a geek, to the extreme, and I love every minute of it. I own about 10 computers, and a few of them even work. I love sci-fi movies (good sci-fi... not the Sci-Fi Channel original movies like FrankenFish). I have seen every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I knew about Firefly before it was canceled. I have only come across a very few computer problems I couldn't fix, I know enough HTML/CSS/PHP/MySQL to do some quality web design. I have three monitors on my desk right now, two of them hooked up to this PC, two of them soon to be hooked up to another PC (one of them shared via KVM). I used to run Linux exclusively. And I can use all of this at my job!
8. Fact: I'm a movie/music snob, but not in a bad way. I hate the crap they play on the radio these days. There's an occasional good song, but I have actively sought out most of the music I listen to. Lately at least half of the movies I've seen have been Asian, and not the generic Kung-Fu movies that get imported to America. Takeshi Miike and Takeshi Kitano from Japan, Chan-Wook Park and Joon-ho Bong from Korea, Johnny To and Wilson Yip from China, could all teach even the best directors in Hollywood a thing or two about how to make a movie. That said, I still enjoy the pointless Hollywood crapfest like Ultraviolet, which is definitely a terrible movie but it's just so damn fun to watch! So while I'm snobbish in my preferences, it's definitely not to the exclusion of others.
So now, who am I going to tag that hasn't been already... hmmmmm...
The first two are the only blogs I read (out of like 30 or so if you include rarely read ones) that are relatively active and haven't been tagged yet.
Chadmac
Cragar
Now, some random people on Planet Atheism
Blurp
Kill the Afterlife
Radical Atheist
Stupid Evil Bastard
The Spiritual Atheist
Hell's Handmaiden
SO, onwards:
- We have to post these rules before we give you the facts.
- Players start with eight random facts/habits about themselves.
- People who are tagged need to write their own blog about their eight things and post these rules.
- At the end of your blog post, you need to choose eight people to get tagged and list their names.
- Don't forget to leave them each a comment telling them they're tagged, and to read your blog.
2. Fact: I know I shouldn't be, but I'm a sucker for lolcats. Usually internet fads annoy me to the point of anger, like 1337 5p34k, but lolcats just make my day. I have the I Can Has Cheezburger feed in my feed reader. I mean, come on, how can you not smile when you look at this:

3. Habit: I'm a digg junkie. There isn't a single item that hits the front page that I don't at least read the little blurb for. It's great! You really find out a lot of news that you wouldn't from more traditional media, as well as a lot of time-wasters.
4. Fact/Habit/Embarrassing Confession: For a few years now, I have had what you could almost consider an imaginary friend. I thought one day "I wonder what someone from 18th century America would think about our world today" and ever since then I can't stop imagining some person from Colonial times following me around and being amazed and confused about everything. It's not like I talk to him, but I do imagine conversations I would have with him. Really, it's amazing how far we've come, and it's an interesting thought experiment, but I can't seem to turn it off whenever my mind is idle.
5. Fact: I have ADD. This could explain #4 a bit, I suppose. I've learned to deal with it on my own, because medication really messed me up, and my stomach has never completely recovered. This didn't help #6 out at all.
6. Fact: I have a chronically bad gastrointestinal system. I got it from my mom. I have recurring diverticulitis, but I have it under control with a high fiber diet. Diverticulitis usually doesn't show up until late thirties, early forties, and I'm now 25. I have acid reflux. I used to throw up all the time but it's been a blissfully long time since I've done that. Hopefully it's getting better with age.
7. Fact: I'm a geek, to the extreme, and I love every minute of it. I own about 10 computers, and a few of them even work. I love sci-fi movies (good sci-fi... not the Sci-Fi Channel original movies like FrankenFish). I have seen every episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and I knew about Firefly before it was canceled. I have only come across a very few computer problems I couldn't fix, I know enough HTML/CSS/PHP/MySQL to do some quality web design. I have three monitors on my desk right now, two of them hooked up to this PC, two of them soon to be hooked up to another PC (one of them shared via KVM). I used to run Linux exclusively. And I can use all of this at my job!
8. Fact: I'm a movie/music snob, but not in a bad way. I hate the crap they play on the radio these days. There's an occasional good song, but I have actively sought out most of the music I listen to. Lately at least half of the movies I've seen have been Asian, and not the generic Kung-Fu movies that get imported to America. Takeshi Miike and Takeshi Kitano from Japan, Chan-Wook Park and Joon-ho Bong from Korea, Johnny To and Wilson Yip from China, could all teach even the best directors in Hollywood a thing or two about how to make a movie. That said, I still enjoy the pointless Hollywood crapfest like Ultraviolet, which is definitely a terrible movie but it's just so damn fun to watch! So while I'm snobbish in my preferences, it's definitely not to the exclusion of others.
So now, who am I going to tag that hasn't been already... hmmmmm...
The first two are the only blogs I read (out of like 30 or so if you include rarely read ones) that are relatively active and haven't been tagged yet.
Chadmac
Cragar
Now, some random people on Planet Atheism
Blurp
Kill the Afterlife
Radical Atheist
Stupid Evil Bastard
The Spiritual Atheist
Hell's Handmaiden
Aw man! I'm PG-13 rated. F*ck (gotta be safe for the 13 year olds right?). Think of all the somewhat good movies you've seen, and said "wow that would be much better with an R rating!" Yeah, one day maybe I'll have an R rating. Apparently the word sex trips it. I think I've heard talk of sex in G rated stuff before even. Oh well, nobody ever said it was accurate.


Mingle2 - Online Dating
Aw man! I'm PG-13 rated. F*ck (gotta be safe for the 13 year olds right?). Think of all the somewhat good movies you've seen, and said "wow that would be much better with an R rating!" Yeah, one day maybe I'll have an R rating. Apparently the word sex trips it. I think I've heard talk of sex in G rated stuff before even. Oh well, nobody ever said it was accurate.


Mingle2 - Online Dating
Do we, as Atheists, discriminate on the basis of religion? I guess a better question is, are we ok with that?
I touched on this a bit in my last post, but I wanted to give this it's own post. My wife and I were discussing this over dinner a while back, and we agree that "yes we do." She said then that she wishes she didn't, but I don't really feel bad about it. But is that wrong? People could say that it's just like discriminating based on sex, race, or sexual preference, and there are some valid comparisons, but I see it as an entirely different discrimination.
You are born as a certain sex, as a certain race. You become homosexual either because of genetics, chemical reactions, or your environment. These are things entirely out of our control, and to discriminate based on these traits would be immoral. However, political affiliation, views on social issues, and religion (among other things) are in a different league.
I would never base my opinion on someone because they are a Bush supporter, or because they believe in traditional family values, or because they are anti-abortion. However, if someone said the following:
Likewise, I would never base my opinion on someone who believed something they heard without getting any evidence. People do it all the time. But when presented with evidence, we tend to be rational and accept the fact that we're wrong. Therefore, when someone tells me they believe in Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), my first thought is usually "really? I thought you were more intelligent than that."
I have read a lot about many different religions. Throughout my life I've probably read at least half of the Bible. To me, none of the religions that I have read about provide any reasonable evidence of their validity, nor do they provide any real answers. Furthermore, while evidence exists that certain events in religious texts did happen, there is no evidence of anything "otherworldly" happening at any point in history. Just look at some of the things religion gives us:
Catholicism is controlled by a government of sorts, that can decide which beliefs people should hold. One day you may be told that you don't believe in something you've believed in all your life.
Mormons believe that a man got the word of God by looking into a hat.
Scientologists (do I even need to go there) believe that there are souls of creatures called Thetans attached to everyone that must be removed before one can become enlightened.
Christians believe in a god that, while willing to send you into the depths of hell to burn for all eternity if you break any of his commandments without asking him for forgiveness, loves you very much and is interested in everything you do throughout the day.
Isn't this worth discrimination? At least as much as someone saying they have an invisible friend who follows them around during the day? As much as people who truly believe knocking on wood will prevent bad things from happening?
Don't get me wrong, if I were in a position to hire, I would never value an Atheist over a Christian. If I were renting a house, I would never value an Atheist over a Muslim. I don't discriminate against anyone in that sense, and I have no problem being friends with religious people, as long as they are ok with me. But intellectually speaking, I value Atheism above all religion, and I will always think differently about believers because of their willingness to forgo all rationality and support a superstition thousands of years old.
I've typed the word "discriminate" so much that it's starting to just look like random letters shoved together, so I think now is a good time to stop.
I touched on this a bit in my last post, but I wanted to give this it's own post. My wife and I were discussing this over dinner a while back, and we agree that "yes we do." She said then that she wishes she didn't, but I don't really feel bad about it. But is that wrong? People could say that it's just like discriminating based on sex, race, or sexual preference, and there are some valid comparisons, but I see it as an entirely different discrimination.
You are born as a certain sex, as a certain race. You become homosexual either because of genetics, chemical reactions, or your environment. These are things entirely out of our control, and to discriminate based on these traits would be immoral. However, political affiliation, views on social issues, and religion (among other things) are in a different league.
I would never base my opinion on someone because they are a Bush supporter, or because they believe in traditional family values, or because they are anti-abortion. However, if someone said the following:
Democrats are all godless anti-American heathens who are trying to take women out of their rightful place at home, taking care of their masters, and letting them kill babies willy-nilly. They should all be killed and die a slow and painful death.I would discriminate against them, gladly, and without reserve.
Likewise, I would never base my opinion on someone who believed something they heard without getting any evidence. People do it all the time. But when presented with evidence, we tend to be rational and accept the fact that we're wrong. Therefore, when someone tells me they believe in Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), my first thought is usually "really? I thought you were more intelligent than that."
I have read a lot about many different religions. Throughout my life I've probably read at least half of the Bible. To me, none of the religions that I have read about provide any reasonable evidence of their validity, nor do they provide any real answers. Furthermore, while evidence exists that certain events in religious texts did happen, there is no evidence of anything "otherworldly" happening at any point in history. Just look at some of the things religion gives us:
Catholicism is controlled by a government of sorts, that can decide which beliefs people should hold. One day you may be told that you don't believe in something you've believed in all your life.
Mormons believe that a man got the word of God by looking into a hat.
Scientologists (do I even need to go there) believe that there are souls of creatures called Thetans attached to everyone that must be removed before one can become enlightened.
Christians believe in a god that, while willing to send you into the depths of hell to burn for all eternity if you break any of his commandments without asking him for forgiveness, loves you very much and is interested in everything you do throughout the day.
Isn't this worth discrimination? At least as much as someone saying they have an invisible friend who follows them around during the day? As much as people who truly believe knocking on wood will prevent bad things from happening?
Don't get me wrong, if I were in a position to hire, I would never value an Atheist over a Christian. If I were renting a house, I would never value an Atheist over a Muslim. I don't discriminate against anyone in that sense, and I have no problem being friends with religious people, as long as they are ok with me. But intellectually speaking, I value Atheism above all religion, and I will always think differently about believers because of their willingness to forgo all rationality and support a superstition thousands of years old.
I've typed the word "discriminate" so much that it's starting to just look like random letters shoved together, so I think now is a good time to stop.
Do we, as Atheists, discriminate on the basis of religion? I guess a better question is, are we ok with that?
I touched on this a bit in my last post, but I wanted to give this it's own post. My wife and I were discussing this over dinner a while back, and we agree that "yes we do." She said then that she wishes she didn't, but I don't really feel bad about it. But is that wrong? People could say that it's just like discriminating based on sex, race, or sexual preference, and there are some valid comparisons, but I see it as an entirely different discrimination.
You are born as a certain sex, as a certain race. You become homosexual either because of genetics, chemical reactions, or your environment. These are things entirely out of our control, and to discriminate based on these traits would be immoral. However, political affiliation, views on social issues, and religion (among other things) are in a different league.
I would never base my opinion on someone because they are a Bush supporter, or because they believe in traditional family values, or because they are anti-abortion. However, if someone said the following:
Likewise, I would never base my opinion on someone who believed something they heard without getting any evidence. People do it all the time. But when presented with evidence, we tend to be rational and accept the fact that we're wrong. Therefore, when someone tells me they believe in Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), my first thought is usually "really? I thought you were more intelligent than that."
I have read a lot about many different religions. Throughout my life I've probably read at least half of the Bible. To me, none of the religions that I have read about provide any reasonable evidence of their validity, nor do they provide any real answers. Furthermore, while evidence exists that certain events in religious texts did happen, there is no evidence of anything "otherworldly" happening at any point in history. Just look at some of the things religion gives us:
Catholicism is controlled by a government of sorts, that can decide which beliefs people should hold. One day you may be told that you don't believe in something you've believed in all your life.
Mormons believe that a man got the word of God by looking into a hat.
Scientologists (do I even need to go there) believe that there are souls of creatures called Thetans attached to everyone that must be removed before one can become enlightened.
Christians believe in a god that, while willing to send you into the depths of hell to burn for all eternity if you break any of his commandments without asking him for forgiveness, loves you very much and is interested in everything you do throughout the day.
Isn't this worth discrimination? At least as much as someone saying they have an invisible friend who follows them around during the day? As much as people who truly believe knocking on wood will prevent bad things from happening?
Don't get me wrong, if I were in a position to hire, I would never value an Atheist over a Christian. If I were renting a house, I would never value an Atheist over a Muslim. I don't discriminate against anyone in that sense, and I have no problem being friends with religious people, as long as they are ok with me. But intellectually speaking, I value Atheism above all religion, and I will always think differently about believers because of their willingness to forgo all rationality and support a superstition thousands of years old.
I've typed the word "discriminate" so much that it's starting to just look like random letters shoved together, so I think now is a good time to stop.
I touched on this a bit in my last post, but I wanted to give this it's own post. My wife and I were discussing this over dinner a while back, and we agree that "yes we do." She said then that she wishes she didn't, but I don't really feel bad about it. But is that wrong? People could say that it's just like discriminating based on sex, race, or sexual preference, and there are some valid comparisons, but I see it as an entirely different discrimination.
You are born as a certain sex, as a certain race. You become homosexual either because of genetics, chemical reactions, or your environment. These are things entirely out of our control, and to discriminate based on these traits would be immoral. However, political affiliation, views on social issues, and religion (among other things) are in a different league.
I would never base my opinion on someone because they are a Bush supporter, or because they believe in traditional family values, or because they are anti-abortion. However, if someone said the following:
Democrats are all godless anti-American heathens who are trying to take women out of their rightful place at home, taking care of their masters, and letting them kill babies willy-nilly. They should all be killed and die a slow and painful death.I would discriminate against them, gladly, and without reserve.
Likewise, I would never base my opinion on someone who believed something they heard without getting any evidence. People do it all the time. But when presented with evidence, we tend to be rational and accept the fact that we're wrong. Therefore, when someone tells me they believe in Christianity (or any other religion for that matter), my first thought is usually "really? I thought you were more intelligent than that."
I have read a lot about many different religions. Throughout my life I've probably read at least half of the Bible. To me, none of the religions that I have read about provide any reasonable evidence of their validity, nor do they provide any real answers. Furthermore, while evidence exists that certain events in religious texts did happen, there is no evidence of anything "otherworldly" happening at any point in history. Just look at some of the things religion gives us:
Catholicism is controlled by a government of sorts, that can decide which beliefs people should hold. One day you may be told that you don't believe in something you've believed in all your life.
Mormons believe that a man got the word of God by looking into a hat.
Scientologists (do I even need to go there) believe that there are souls of creatures called Thetans attached to everyone that must be removed before one can become enlightened.
Christians believe in a god that, while willing to send you into the depths of hell to burn for all eternity if you break any of his commandments without asking him for forgiveness, loves you very much and is interested in everything you do throughout the day.
Isn't this worth discrimination? At least as much as someone saying they have an invisible friend who follows them around during the day? As much as people who truly believe knocking on wood will prevent bad things from happening?
Don't get me wrong, if I were in a position to hire, I would never value an Atheist over a Christian. If I were renting a house, I would never value an Atheist over a Muslim. I don't discriminate against anyone in that sense, and I have no problem being friends with religious people, as long as they are ok with me. But intellectually speaking, I value Atheism above all religion, and I will always think differently about believers because of their willingness to forgo all rationality and support a superstition thousands of years old.
I've typed the word "discriminate" so much that it's starting to just look like random letters shoved together, so I think now is a good time to stop.

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